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Okay, so the following are, obviously, all very subjective, but those are the books I enjoyed a lot.
If you want something short and are interested in Artificial Intelligence, I'd recommend:
All Systems Red (and subsequent)
If you want to get into the classics and want to read something to think about:
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
If you want a classic and something to think about, but with witty humour, read:
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
If you like to read about ragtag bands of people and don't want to start one of those series with 500 books, read:
Stars Uncharted (there's only two books in the series)
If you want an epic space opera, try this:
Hidden Empire (fair warning: there are a lot of books in this series)
If you want something that's less 'spaceships' and more 'cyberpunk', read:
Infomocracy
Whatever you read, I hope you have a great time with it!
If you want something short and are interested in Artificial Intelligence, I'd recommend:
All Systems Red (and subsequent)
If you want to get into the classics and want to read something to think about:
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
If you want a classic and something to think about, but with witty humour, read:
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
If you like to read about ragtag bands of people and don't want to start one of those series with 500 books, read:
Stars Uncharted (there's only two books in the series)
If you want an epic space opera, try this:
Hidden Empire (fair warning: there are a lot of books in this series)
If you want something that's less 'spaceships' and more 'cyberpunk', read:
Infomocracy
Whatever you read, I hope you have a great time with it!

I'd recommend Dennis E. Taylor's Bobiverse books, starting with We Are Legion (We Are Bob), which are a great deal of fun.
Adrian Tchaikovsky's Children of Time & Children of Ruin are superb, similar to the Taylor books in terms of space exploration but also some wonderful takes on alien life.
Neal Stephenson's work is always enjoyable, although his recent books have got heftier and heftier (that said, if you're a Stephen King reader that might not be a problem!) I'd definitely recommend some of his earlier books, Snow Crash and The Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer which are both superb.
My favourite SF writer - possibly my favourite writer - is Iain M. Banks, and I think his Culture books should be read by everyone. They set in the same universe but not sequential, with hardly any internal connections.
Hope you find some stuff you like!

Listing books that haven't been already posted:
- Legion: The Many Lives of Stephen Leeds by Brandon Sanderson
- Where the Hell is Tesla? #1 by Rob Dircks
- 14 #1 by Peter Clines
- Lock In #1 by John Scalzi
- The Warrior's Apprentice #2 by Lois McMaster Bujold (I started the series here & it works well. You can read #1 later.)
- Initiate #1 by Joshua & Michael Anderle
- Life in the North #1 by Tao Wong
- Artemis by Andy Weir
- Illuminae #1 by Amie Kaufman & Jay Kristoff
- Space Team #1 by Barry J. Hutchison
- The Lives of Tao #1 by Wesley Chu
- We Are Legion (We Are Bob) #1 by Dennis E. Taylor
- Sleeping Giants #1 by Syvain Neuvel
- XOM-B by Jeremy Robinson
Hopefully, you will enjoy one of those. This is off the top of my head.



Another beginner sci-fi books I liked back then were books in the Star Trek universe. My favorite then was The Lost Years
When it comes to more modern stuff the Murderbot series is great and for a more dynamic read I would recommend Illuminae
Chris wrote: "Why not start with this month's selection? Also look at rereads from the group shelf and buddy reads. Science fiction is a come-as-you-are genre. If you get inspired to track down author influences..."
I almost said this, too, but Dreamsnake is not free of sexual violence.
I almost said this, too, but Dreamsnake is not free of sexual violence.

-Sleeping Giants by Sylvain Neuvel is awesome!
-I think you'll love A.G. Riddle's books, I have only read one so far Pandemic & it was the first proper Sci-Fi novel I read, it was really good. I think his writing is great for Sci-Fi beginners. I recommend starting with Winter World.
-Exhalation: Stories & Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang.
-Six Wakes by Mur Lafferty.
Also watch this video by a Sci-Fi enthusiast for other great recommendations!
https://youtu.be/l8UPAUkQIPI

Not that I'm recommending them as your average Joe's intro to SF.
No, I think if I were to recommend anything it would be to just jump into the deep end of he pool and read the two greatest SF books of all time Hyperion and Dune.
Are they simple? No. Are they quick easy reads? No. But to me they strike at the very heart of what SF can be at its best: good storytelling, fascinating world building, wild far-out ideas, complex and compelling plots, memorable scenes and characters.
Plus -- added bonus -- if you read Dune now you'll be all ready for the new Dune movie that's supposed to come out this December (which I personally am highly skeptical about, because the track record for movies interpreting books that I love is pretty dismal).

The main thing I love about King is his ability to get inside people’s heads, as well as his ability to build tension.
I really enjoyed the Dark Tower Series, so I’m not worried about anything being too weird.

(Well, maybe not the Crosstime books, which I found did not hold up well on a second reading. But I haven't seen any recent editions of them, anyway.)
A lot of her science fiction, and some of her fantasy, was published as juveniles, or for 'Young Adults" in their hardcover incarnations, but sold well to adults when they went into paperback. She was my introduction to modern science fiction, back in the 1950s, and I happily followed her for decades thereafter.
The one problem with starting her books is where to begin. Actually, almost anyplace. She has a lot of science fiction to her credit, but her fantasy was confined mainly to the very large Witch World series, later expanded to include High Hallack and the Dales, set on a different continent, but in the same time-line.
A lot of her science fiction can be grouped into (usually) short series, sometimes just two volumes. Her early "Time Traders" series ran to four or more volumes, and so did the "Solar Queen" series about a merchant ship competing with large corporations. Others were limited to two or three volumes.
Her science fiction novels often seemed to have a shared background, but sometimes it is so inconsistent as to suggest parallel universes are involved (which she implied in at least one novel, (view spoiler) )
Fortunately, her Wikipedia Bibliography article breaks down the series into lists, in addition to all the standalone stories you can choose from.
For what seems to be a complete run-down, including some late-in-life collaborations, see the previously cited Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_N..., along with her biography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_N...
A historical aside on the name "Andre Norton," which the article touches on.
The late Andre Norton became, legally, Andre Alice Norton, but the name given her at birth was Alice Mary Norton. When she began writing, her main market was juvenile fiction, especially historical adventure stories marketed "for boys," and publishers were reluctant to put a woman's name under the title.
However, she didn't keep it a secret that Andre (no accent) Norton was a woman, and some publishers later insisted on a new pseudonym, Andrew North. Some books were reprinted in paperback with "Andre Norton, writing as Andrew North," on the cover, so as not to lose sales to her considerable following. (I should acknowledge that she actually wrote some books aimed at elementary and Junior High level readers, and these went out under the familiar Andre Norton name.)
All this has confused more than one librarian. Even some science fiction fans have trouble remembering it. (I'm not sure how much the current generation is actually aware of it.) Unfortunately, excluding women's names (although not always writers) from certain markets probably isn't a quaint old custom. Then again, a lot of Gothic, and probably other, romances written by men have women's names on the cover....

The Martian
The Calculating Stars
An Unkindness of Ghosts
All Systems Red
Story of Your Life / Exhalation / Anxiety is the Dizziness of Freedom / The Lifecycle of Software Objects / basically stories from Ted Chiang
Rosewater
Ancillary Justice


The Stainless Steel Rat Series is a romp and nothing more with a 50s style science to it. Its like small-town USA space and all the better for it.
The Martian Chronicles is funny and witty and very well written plus it is short stories so it can be read a bit at a time.
Dune is the start of a series but can be read alone. Amazing world building in that one.
HG Wells War of the Worlds is short and brilliant
The Steel Caves and the Naked Sun by Isaac Asimov are whodunnits in space with one eye on his robots stories. Both very good and again very quick reads
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I’ve already been suggested Leviathon Wakes.