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Group Reads > May 2020 Group Read #1: THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES, John A. Keel

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Carrie (brightbeautifulthings) (brightbeautifulthings) | 98 comments Latasha wrote: "Starting this tonight. My sister can never read this. It would terrify her.
"They are not from outer space. There is no need for them to be. They have always been here. ""


"They are not from outer space. There is no need for them to be. They have always been here. "

I actually like that argument more than the outer space one. Nature makes all kinds of weird stuff, and I like the idea that there are things here that look "supernatural" to us because don't understand them yet.

I'm hoping to start this weekend, so more thoughts soon.


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Kimberly (kimberly_3238) | 7707 comments Mod
Latasha wrote: "Has anyone been to the mothman festival?"

That would have been incredible! Have you gone, Latasha?


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Alan | 7737 comments Mod
Latasha wrote: "Has anyone been to the mothman festival?"

That's one of my bucket list wishes, up there with Austin TX for Batfest.


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments No I have not been yet.


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J. Gowin I haven't been, but I have been looking at doing it.


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Zen Ghost Bookworm (zenbookworm) | 9 comments Latasha wrote: "Has anyone been to the mothman festival?"

OMG, there is a Mothman Festival? That would be wild!


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J. Gowin Zen wrote: "OMG, there is a Mothman Festival? That would be wild!"

This September 19th

https://www.mothmanfestival.com/


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Alan | 7737 comments Mod
My friend visited Point Pleasant a couple months back and snapped a photo at the Mothman statue.


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments I'm up to ch. 5. It's ok but I'm ready to get to the mothman story.


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Kimberly (kimberly_3238) | 7707 comments Mod
I'm still in the beginning....


Kathy  | 41 comments Has anyone seen the Hellier series on Amazon Prime? The Mothman Prophecies plays a big role in it.


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments I watched the first season but still have not seen season 2. I really liked it.


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Christa (christaw) Kathy wrote: "Has anyone seen the Hellier series on Amazon Prime? The Mothman Prophecies plays a big role in it."

I LOVE Hellier. I'm planning to give both seasons a third watch-through soon.

For those without Prime, it's also available to watch free on Youtube, on the Newkirks' channel, Planet Weird: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH2N...


Carrie (brightbeautifulthings) (brightbeautifulthings) | 98 comments Latasha wrote: "I'm up to ch. 5. It's ok but I'm ready to get to the mothman story."

^^ This. I get that he's making a point here about how all these things are related/happen all over, but I'm ready for a more in-depth look at one story rather than brief mentions of thirty sightings. (I hope that's a thing this book delivers, or it's going to be a tedious read.)


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments Carrie (brightbeautifulthings) wrote: "Latasha wrote: "I'm up to ch. 5. It's ok but I'm ready to get to the mothman story."

^^ This. I get that he's making a point here about how all these things are related/happen all over, but I'm re..."


i hope so too. if not, i may not finish it.


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments Christa wrote: "Kathy wrote: "Has anyone seen the Hellier series on Amazon Prime? The Mothman Prophecies plays a big role in it."

I LOVE Hellier. I'm planning to give both seasons a third watch-through soon.

Fo..."


thanks Christa!


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments so, who all really, truly believes in the mothman? no making fun of each other!! i'm really not sure. i think all those people saw something and i believe they are describing as they saw it. i have no idea what it was, i wasn't there. i just don't know. this goes for all the cryptids, ufo's and all that. i think there's too many sightings for it to be nothing. i'm open minded but i just don't know.


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Kimberly (kimberly_3238) | 7707 comments Mod
Latasha wrote: "so, who all really, truly believes in the mothman? no making fun of each other!! i'm really not sure. i think all those people saw something and i believe they are describing as they saw it. i have..."

I think some cryptids are more "likely" to exist than others....


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Kathy  | 41 comments One snowy night around midnight, after a long 8 hour drive, my husband and I were driving down a road covered with trees arching over the road. We were pretty hypnotized due to the length of the ride, the monochromatic color scheme of white and black (snow and night) and no other movement on the road. Suddenly this huge, white, I swear it looked like an angel, came swooping out of the trees down in front of the windshield and back up into the tree branches. Basically what we saw was a large white flying object with massive wings. It took us a couple moments to realize it was a huge (maybe not as huge as I thought) barn owl. Mothman like lots of cryptids is open to the interpretation of the observer. But it sure is nice to wish for a little magic in this world!


Christa (christaw) Latasha wrote: "so, who all really, truly believes in the mothman? no making fun of each other!! i'm really not sure. i think all those people saw something and i believe they are describing as they saw it. i have..."

I do believe in cryptids (some more than others) and also ufo-related things. I'm a big proponent of the ultra-terrestrial / trans-dimensional / Inter-dimensional hypotheses. It has the potential to explain a lot of phenomena. One day we might find out that what we call "paranormal" is actually explainable.

But I also don't believe that reality relies on tangibility. I'm sure many have heard the expression, "The plural of anecdote is *not* data", but let's be real - at a certain point I feel like we have to acknowledge that if THAT many people are seeing / experiencing / feeling something, something is up. It's not sufficient to just dismiss people as crazy or delusional on the basis of these experiences alone.

There's a pair of metal scissors on my desk. I know that, despite looking cold and lifeless, the atoms in the metal are vibrating, and bonded together by their attraction to each other. I know this to be true, but as I sit here at my desk I have no way on hand to measure or detect that.

So, knowing that, what could be out there that no one has figured out how to measure or detect yet?


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Kimberly (kimberly_3238) | 7707 comments Mod
Christa wrote: "Latasha wrote: "so, who all really, truly believes in the mothman? no making fun of each other!! i'm really not sure. i think all those people saw something and i believe they are describing as the..."

This is brilliantly worded! There is so much that we "don't know" the answers to.


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J. Gowin For those who are interested, this is a video that explains how the Silver Bridge failed.

https://youtu.be/8w5Fjouvma8

There is one aspect that the video doesn't explain well. When one describes a metal as "tough" they are not describing its hardness, but rather its malleability (how easily it bends). The harder a metal is, the more brittle it is.


Amity Horror (amityhorror) | 55 comments I just finished reading the book and I was really disappointed in it. It is so overrun with UFO sightings the Mothman feels forgotten.


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Kimberly (kimberly_3238) | 7707 comments Mod
Killjoy_EQB wrote: "I just finished reading the book and I was really disappointed in it. It is so overrun with UFO sightings the Mothman feels forgotten."

It felt to me as if the author were trying to "link" the two. Personally, I (view spoiler)


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Zen Ghost Bookworm (zenbookworm) | 9 comments Just finished the book and it is a hard "no" from me. Sorry, folks. Wow. Looking forward to us doing a group watch of the movie though. I need to watch it to redeem my love for the story and the Mothman legend.


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It is amazing that they pulled such an awesome movie out of...that...book.


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments :( i feel like i should just quit now? i'm about 30%.


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments I just went ahead and got a refund for the book. It was ok but I didn’t care one way or the other if I finished it.


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Kimberly (kimberly_3238) | 7707 comments Mod
Alan wrote: "It is amazing that they pulled such an awesome movie out of...that...book."

It wasn't like anything I expected, that's for sure. More of a (view spoiler)


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Alan | 7737 comments Mod
Kimberly wrote: "Alan wrote: "It is amazing that they pulled such an awesome movie out of...that...book."

It wasn't like anything I expected, that's for sure. More of a [spoilers removed]"


IKR? I was shocked when I read the book after seeing the movie way back when. I debated whether I should say something when peeps started nominating this, but decided not to play spoiler. It certainly did meet the topic.


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments Alan wrote: "Kimberly wrote: "Alan wrote: "It is amazing that they pulled such an awesome movie out of...that...book."

It wasn't like anything I expected, that's for sure. More of a [spoilers removed]"

IKR? I..."


i thought i knew what to expect but like Debbie said, it's kinda dry.


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Naomi V | 9 comments I've read the first few chapters but really not feeling it, might have to call it quits


Rachel Boni (midnightcreepreads) | 41 comments It was a strange read! Not what I was expecting at all. I was disappointed, I felt like it missed the point somewhere along the crazy mess of lines that was the story.


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Kimberly (kimberly_3238) | 7707 comments Mod
I had never read this one before, but it wasn't anything like I was expecting...


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Hana | 2 comments I was super excited about reading this one, but after reading all of your comments I think I'm going to end up very disappointed. I'm going to make a start today any way!!


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Latasha (latasha513) | 11983 comments I hope you like it Hana.


Carrie (brightbeautifulthings) (brightbeautifulthings) | 98 comments I'm in the majority here. It took me over a week to read it, and I can usually read three books in that time. Major slump for me. Definitely like the movie so much more.

(view spoiler)


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Bo | 44 comments Just wrapped this up today, too. I agree with everyone who said this feels messy in its approach to the narrative. While I don't rule out the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe (or alternate dimensions or what have you), there is little in the book that struck me as a convincing argument, and also, argument for what? The ultimate conclusion is there is no conclusion? At any rate, excited to watch the movie again to compare and contrast! And also to move on to the second book for May.


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Kimberly (kimberly_3238) | 7707 comments Mod
Carrie (brightbeautifulthings) wrote: "I'm in the majority here. It took me over a week to read it, and I can usually read three books in that time. Major slump for me. Definitely like the movie so much more.

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Completely agree....


Carrie (brightbeautifulthings) (brightbeautifulthings) | 98 comments "and also, argument for what? The ultimate conclusion is there is no conclusion?"

Exactly! Fewer examples and more time building an argument would have gone a long way.


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Bo | 44 comments Carrie (brightbeautifulthings) wrote: ""and also, argument for what? The ultimate conclusion is there is no conclusion?"

Exactly! Fewer examples and more time building an argument would have gone a long way."


I feel like J.K. Simmons in Burn After reading. "Report back to me when it makes sense."


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gjh7 | 4 comments Really disappointing read for me. Felt like a series of disjointed, partially connected events. Quite dated too, very much of its time. No direction to the narrative, but some compelling weirdness. Not seen the film, but might check it out.


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Bo | 44 comments To test out the Kast stream, I'm going to roll with a couple of alien-related movies tonight. You can find the app link in this discussion thread and here's the link to the room I set up: https://s.kast.live/g/ki9zzjqppyq

Thought I'd play one about the Phoenix lights and another recent one called Dark Encounter I've never seen.


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