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I'm about 50%.
For anyone that's there or have read the series:
Ryan - (view spoiler)
I love how passionately the characters are driven to make an alien artifact work.
There are some plot holes but I'm having a lot of fun just going with what's happening thus far.

Same here! I'm enjoying the pace at which we learn more about the artifact, while spending good time getting to know the characters. I really like this badass pilot (Kara, I think?). And the interviewer/unnamed-guy that's apparently running things. I'm curious to see if we learn exactly who he works for at some point.
"There are some plot holes but I'm having a lot of fun just going with what's happening thus far."
Oh I'm curious to hear them, if you don't think they're spoilers. I haven't picked up on any, myself.

We should give him a nickname.
I actually like how all of them are gathered up, gelled and explode.
So, it's a bunch of smart people and I'm glad they're really into putting together the Sleeping Giant. It's curious that the robot is a female form of some sort. Yet there's not a whole lot of discussion about how dangerous this tech may be or how they will deal with it.


Finished #1 and it was an entertaining ride! I'm going to dive right into #2. So... I have issues with some of the plot points but I like the book overall.
Will love to discuss as you guys get into it!


Also, I read File002 & File247. They were entertaining.

I enjoyed the ride. It was highly entertaining.


It's got that Sense of Wonder and What If that I have been reading SF for over the last 5 decades, approaches missing from a lot of modern SF. Bonus, interesting characters, even if they are, so far, a little tropey.
I admit the author is successfully 'playing' me. I'm rooting for Kara and the rest, but even more so for Ryan. And I'm intrigued by unnamed resource-rich guy (though a little annoyed that it's a guy cuz wouldn't it be cool if the author had made the powerful being a female?). And I'm speculating the heck out of the 'robot' as they're calling it. And nodding along with the social and political commentary.
But oh... oh I don't know what I'll do if this doesn't stand alone. I'll be annoyed, that's sure. Will I read sequels, or just look for spoilers for them so I can know what happens? Dunno.
The first book can standalone. I'm actually tempted to recommend abandoning the series after the first book despite liking the second story. The second book doesn't have the same sense of wonder. Though it does have a mystery it's not quite so endearing.
Also, 'Never root for Ryan' is a popular saying the world over for good reason. They're all villainous!

Also, Never Root for Ryan! Haahahah LOL - That poor guy.
A lot of the questions raised in the books do not get addressed & that made me take certain things less seriously but, honestly, I totally do see this series as a X-Files/Men-in-Black/Pacific Rim (Mechas).

I dunno about plot holes or anything but would like to read reports from those of you who did spot them.
I really would like dates on the files. Or more clues in the interviews. All I can see are a couple of "and that took three months" and "his surgery is being prepped now." Any ideas on how long things are taking? I think the president is the same person atm....

I love "Mr Man" aka Mr Gray aka Mr Black aka Mr Knows everything. lol
You should enjoy the stories and come back to chat it all up. That way we can take apart the story or not at leisure. =D

20 million soldiers dead in WWII
(Google says 75 M total, 3% of world population.
I think that kinda puts the current pandemic in perspective.)
File number 211 has an interesting discussion about how media including violent video-games and, presumably, SF, desensitizes audiences and so we're unlikely to react with mass hysteria to anything like aliens revealing themselves or whatever.
Got a few more clues. Including the clue that nameless guy isn't always keeping track. (File 229) I still want more.

"You'd be surprised how hard it is to fit God and aliens in the same sentence without sounding corny." Heck, I'd had hopes that if we met ET we'd have a lot more ppl become atheists. Oh well.
"in 1963 Kennedy did offer the cooperate with Moscow to reach the moon." Is that true, does anyone know?
Also, is it true that North Korea has faked nuclear testing by blowing up "a whole lot of explosives underground?"
And all through I admire the way the author played me, even though it did take me out of total immersion. For example, the way we were invited to feel some humanity from nameless guy, and then he'd reveal his ruthlessly logical pragmatism again.

I assume later books will have more of the more traditional What If as in the effects of the find on governments, citizens, social order, etc. If they don't, I'm def. not interested in reading further, as I really like the way this came together and ended. No spoilers or even hints for the next books though, please!
To clarify, I did read the whole first book and am glad that I did.

The characters were awesome. Good and bad. They made the whole thing click and work.

Myself, I gave more stars to books 2 and 3. I didn't know about the extra "Files". I think I'll give those a look someday.



It is a little too long ago for me to be detailed. I think I disliked 1 compared to the others because it had the most ridiculous plot device. (view spoiler) .

It is a little too long ago for me to be detailed. I think I disliked 1 compared to ..."
I agree with the plot device, just why? I havent read the 2nd or 3rd books but will be putting them higher on my tbr list tho'
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April 27th Start Date
We'll start reading the book on the 27th and discuss as we go along. If this one turns out to be good, we should plan to read the other books in the series.