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Timelord Iain | 36363 comments Mod
Soo wrote: "Broken Council..."

After my #7 re-read, I felt like he made a bunch of leaps to avoid the gang being stuck on the new planet forever, with all the research and stuff started, before John imploded the situation with the mercenaries...


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments What do you think of the narrator for Skulduggery? I put the omnibus on Audible Wish List. heh


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My original copies were CDrips, and I got tired of the sound effects at the end of every CD, but it's less annoying on the updated versions I picked up later that might have been the US Audible versions (didn't realize at the time) and only have the sounds at the start and end...

The narrator changes around book 5, I think... one narrator did books 1-4, another did 2 of the books between 5 & 7 I think, and 3rd narrator did 6 & 8+, I think, looking at narrators earlier when you first asked... overall, the narration feels pretty consistant, from what I remember...

The cast of characters in this are weird/quirky and distinctive, and the narrator has pretty good voices for them...


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Listened to some samples, and I think I like the 2nd and 3rd narrator more than the 1st...

Also... seems more like the first narrator does 1-4, a onetime narrator does 5, 3rd narrator does 6-9, and a new narrator might do all of the new arc...


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Well, at least it's split by arcs? lol

The audiobook for The Free Bastards comes out on 9/28th!


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I need to read True Bastards... Grey Bastards was one of my favorite reads of the year, last month... not sure I can wait for busier BR buddies to continue...


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Soo wrote: "Well, at least it's split by arcs? lol

The audiobook for The Free Bastards comes out on 9/28th!"


I'll need to continue with book 9, soon... book 8 solved current problems with bigger problems, leading into the finale... so much to resolve, another 18-20hr book, I think... and after 5 books of slapstick comedy, it was kinda nice to see the ol' failed Zombie King get some redemption as a hero, if only to one damsel in the big fight...


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Relentless - I got about halfway and had to skip to a less sad story.

Iain, I dunno how you were able to listen to the whole story & not get sad. Joe (view spoiler) is pretty darn upsetting in how well it's done. I'm sure I'll be fine once I get to the turning point, but it's a total bummer.

As for Empire of the Vampire, I had to double check if it's considered YA. LOL It's not. It's like a tone down Anne Rice story. I've gotten about 30% into it, but I'm not quite in the mood for weird 1st person to limited 3rd viewpoints.


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Narilka | 5825 comments I'm glad I'm not to the second Joe Ledger series yet. Not sure I could handle something that sad right now.

@Soo - I'm half way through Night's Gift. It's been a fun little adventure so far. Definitely not complicated as it's aimed at a young audience. I don't mind :) I will say it's been a long time since I've read a book with a psionic character. It's taken half the book for him to be able to really unleash his powers and its worth it.


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Good ole fun is nice to throw into the mix. =)

I re-read The Vanishing. It's a solid, HEA romance with a bit of a mystery. I enjoyed it the first time I read it. The re-read was nice, but not as exciting as the first time around. I did the re-read because I snagged book #2 during a sale. =D

Whispers by Dean Koontz was a surprise because it's totally a romance! lol That's the kind of story that I would imagine romance authors would have wanted to write. A serial killer creeper crime case and down to earth couple that fall in love. That one was not light hearted as an overall arc, but the fact that it had contrasting scenes (happy, sad, calm, sadistic, etc) made the story better. Ironically, it made it an ok thriller/crime story, but a great romance.


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Relentless is DARK/depressing… probably wouldn’t have pushed through if it wasn’t Joe and Ghost and the team…


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I watched a bunch of hitman romcoms recently…

Mr. Right was a rewatch… really fun one with Sam Rockwell and whats-her-name from Pitch Perfect…

I think it caused the oldie recommendation, Gross Point Black with John/Joan Cusack, Minnie Driver, Dan Acroyd… hitman’s high school reunion…


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments As a contrast, I'm trying to read comics with some sort of comedy or romance. Even with that, Relentless is pretty dark.


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Almost finished with Salute the Dark, Shadows of the Apt #4… has a Thanos feel of inevitability… if not for the betrayals and doublecrosses piling up at the end, there’d be no way for the Wasps to lose at this point, or have 6 more books…


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments So exciting yay for the series? =)

In the trend of lighter fair between Relentless, I finished Something #1. I can see what people are saying about the book. More bad than good, but as a fan of the story world that Dakota Krout has created, it's a nice addition to that. I think I've read most of the core books. Within the meta world stuff, really fun. As a new series starter, it needed more work to flesh out the characters more.

In the end, it was fun and I like the Murderhobo character a lot. He's batty crazy, but I think he can wean himself back towards sanity. Not sure if that'll happen, but I can hope? Heh

Now listening to The Last Human. The writing flow and narration by Bahni Turpin makes me think of Alexander Kane or A. Lee Martinez type of story. The aliens and tech are weird and quirky. The main character has whatever condition where she doesn't think of herself as human because she was raised as an alien. Thus alien envy, etc.


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Soo wrote: "So exciting yay for the series? =)

In the trend of lighter fair between Relentless, I finished Something #1. I can see what people are saying about the book. More bad than good, bu..."


It's complicated... when I'm reading them, they're easy to read in 2-3 sessions... but when I'm not, it's been easy to delay... taken 6 months to read 4 books...

Part of it is spoiling too much reading all the blurbs and checking out the spotty wiki... wiki doesn't have all the info, tho...

Biggest surprises in book 4 were how many characters were killed off, and that epilogue where a character survived...


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Started King Bullet… seems super short at 8hrs…

Seems like the only way for the baddie to be impactful is for it to be someone Sandman Slim knows… 2 options are a friend or his dead archnemesis… the one who got him sent to hell in the first place, that he dealt with twice already, including the Eldritch Gods trilogy… can’t remember if he’s somewhere he can come back from, tho… altho I guess anything’s possible in fiction…


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Brian | 1681 comments Ok back home! Started Cork#4 yesterday on flight home. Only a couple hours in and so far so good.


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Whatcha do on vacation? =)


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Brian | 1681 comments Well it was mostly work but met some old military buddies so was kinda nice to catch up. Nice being home tho. Texas is way too hot for me.


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Finished King Bullet… enjoyed it as a Sandman Slim book… kinda letdown as finale…


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As a finale, it just felt more like Kadrey made some decisions BECAUSE he wanted to take a break from Sandman Slim, more than to build a satisfying climax to the series...

I had a feeling he was leaving it open to continue in the future, at around 90-95%, and by 99% he made it super explicit...

At least it ended on a different note than the last 3 trilogies... (view spoiler)

Hopefully when he decides to continue, it'll be more satisfying than some OTHER revivals (Black Jewels)


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Wait, without spoilers, it ended in a way that he can go back to it?

I'm gonna be bummed when I read this book. *grumble grumble*


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Soo wrote: "Wait, without spoilers, it ended in a way that he can go back to it?

I'm gonna be bummed when I read this book. *grumble grumble*"


Yea... for sure, he can return... and he pretty much swears he will, in-character, too... for a minute, it seemed final, but then the last last scenes happened...

And on top of that, the resolution of this story felt a bit defeatist, rather than the usual expectation (in Urban Fantasy) of some hijinks solving things with minimal consequence...

I wasn't sure if you'd read this yet or not when I commented before, but there's really not much more I can say without spoilers... lots of spoilers...

It's a short book, so it shouldn't take you long, when you get to it...

When I say I enjoyed the book, I mean the first 80-90%, which is basically normal Sandman being Sandman stuff... especially with the narrator/character voices we've gotten used to... I could listen to that stuff forever, I think... and Fuck Hollywood was a great normie character to bounce Stark's craziness off of... half the stuff she doesn't believe at first, the other half she thinks is awesome/badass... and Stark half-heartedly tries to shield her from the worst of it... but Stark sucks at keeping people isolated from his shit...


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Empire of the Vampire - Boy that took forever for me to read! I listened to the whole thing at least 3-4x. It was like an Ann Rice novel without the deep dive of emotions, politics, culture & characterization. It has those elements, but it's like the light version.

Ann Rice is interesting, because her writing can really make you live within the story world and super grossed out, hate, empathize with the characters or events. Robert Heinlein is the first writer that comes to mind when I think of books with elements that can make my brain spin and think of way out of the norm stuff. Followed by Rice and a few other authors.

Narrator is fine but the guy's accent doesn't fit the story. That made it hard to stay within the story for me. Followed by a bunch of other things that made the overall story have a passive presentation.

I'll read the next book, but I'll probably wait for a sale to pick it up. I wasn't entirely thrilled by the book. Also, it needed more kickass fighting? I like the bookcover. I wanted the story to have cool fights. There's fighting, but I can't say there was one amazing fight sequence in the whole thing. =P


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I started Will Destroy the Galaxy for Cash (middle of my weekend, watched more movies, now rewatching season 1 of Alias... I loved that show and it's crazy mythology and spy hijinks... crazy how many actors in that are big names these days... recognized a young Sarah Shahi, this time around)...

ANYWAY... from the blurb, I expected a different story, but now that I'm in it, the MC has been roped into impersonating Jacques McKeown again by the same blackmailer from the first book, this time at Jacques McCon, a convention for the star pilot/author... hosted by the entitled rich kid from the first book... to steal a cure to some poison/disease for the blackmailer's friend... I'm sure it won't go as planned...


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments LOL I like how you ended that with "I'm sure it won't go as planned..."

Yeah, I think it's interesting when I re-watch a show and note the younger version of actors from whatever I'm watching in the present. Though, I'm seriously slacked on watching shows/movies. Heh


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Soo wrote: "LOL I like how you ended that with "I'm sure it won't go as planned..."

Yeah, I think it's interesting when I re-watch a show and note the younger version of actors from whatever I'm watching in t..."


I watched a bunch of hitman romcoms recently... Mr. Right, Gross Pointe Blank, then I found one with Dave Bautista on Amazon called My Spy (he's spying on the widow of a person of interest and gets blackmailed by the 9 year old daughter that catches him spying... 9 year old starts orchestrating a romance between Bautista and mom... Kristen Schaal is great in it, too)... then I found just a spy comedy called The Spy Who Dumped Me... Mila Kunis and Kate McKinnon get caught in a conspiracy when Mila Kunis is dumped by spy boyfriend, then the spy dies and Mila Kunis has important intel in his things... end up going all over Europe trying to stay alive...

Ended up on Alias when I ran out of actiony movies I wanted to watch on Hulu/Netflix/Amazon...


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Woohoo! Sandman Act II is out now. I'll re-read Act I and dive into 2.


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Pretty sure anyone that uses Audible knows Sandman Act II was coming... it's been the first banner ad on there for like a month, now...


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Yeah, but now it's out and I can listen to it. =D

Woo!

Re-read of Act I was fun and I love the way the huge narration cast makes the story come to life.


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I wasn't giving you a hard time... just pointing out that all us non-listeners also know it's a thing, because Audible has been hyping it for weeks/months...


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Brian | 1681 comments Well I finished The Night Agent and The Ranger. Both were paperbacks I owned so I am slowly working toward my goal of reading through them.

Overall each were decent thrillers. The Ranger by Ace Atkins reminds me of a less enjoyable Jack Reacher. I give it some leeway because its the first book of the series. However, the pacing was off, parts seemed rushed, and the character development could have been better. I wanted to care about the main character and sidekicks more but author just didn't deliver. I will probably continue if the books are avail at library.


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Brian | 1681 comments Other great news (not) is my 3 year old and wife both have Covid. Yay! Wife was vaccinated too. So far I am couch living and hoping not to catch it. Wish us luck!


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Narilka | 5825 comments Keeping your family in my thoughts for a speedy recovery. Hang in there!


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My expectations for Jacques McKeown were spot on… the heist caused destruction similar to the police vault theft in Fast Five… but did wonders for McKeown’s notoriety and book sales… tons of other stuff happened… now McKeown is back where he started, being charged with crimes, until Terragon Scourge of the Galaxy shows up… an unkillable angsty kid with telekinesis that was in cryostasis. Until McKeown thawed him out… turns out employer/blackmailer lied about the cure they were stealing… and the Scourge is being worshipped by mini-human slaves of a derelict space station McKeown visited earlier… and a bunch of other stuff… McKeown realized he was a supervillain earlier… now he’s trying to recruit retired/recovering villains to be scientists on a deep space exploration mission he was interested in before the blackmail heist started…


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Brian wrote: "Other great news (not) is my 3 year old and wife both have Covid. Yay! Wife was vaccinated too. So far I am couch living and hoping not to catch it. Wish us luck!"


Aw, good luck!


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Brian | 1681 comments Soo wrote: "Brian wrote: "Other great news (not) is my 3 year old and wife both have Covid. Yay! Wife was vaccinated too. So far I am couch living and hoping not to catch it. Wish us luck!"


Aw, good luck!"


Thanks Soo and Narika. Everyone is doing well so far.


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Started Sidekick Initiative… the dynamic duo of Barry Hutchison & Phil Thron at it again… these sidekicks are a piece of work… kinda like Mystery Men…


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Humor like Space team or DCI Logan?


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments Brian, do you remember what you enjoyed about Red Sparrow? Got it from the library, and it has the worst pacing and awkward writing. It doesn't help that the narrator sounds bored from start to finish.


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Space Team… and I loved it… ending was a bit abrupt tho… would have liked a few more pages of aftermath…

When Callum the butterfly came barging into the cathedral during the final battle, and the Butterfly King was like “Callum, you sonuvabitch!!!”, even Phil Thron laughed in the bloopers, lol…

That scene was kinda like in Shawn of the Dead, when they’re making action movie music and keep cutting to the slow zombie groaning… but with a butterfly…


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Brian | 1681 comments Soo it’s been awhile. I remember Red Sparrow was recommended to me by a good friend and was way better then the movie. Strong female protagonist who suffers through some harsh training in Russia to become a spy/asssassin. It’s a slow burn but I liked the series.


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Moved on to the next Vorkosigan book, The Borders of Infinity... this is a trio of novellas with a frame story of Miles recovering from full bone replacement, debriefing to Ilyich...

These are actually some of the stories I remember the most... the time Miles has to solve an infanticide in the Vorkosigan rural town area... the time he saves a human/animal hybrid and recruits her... etc...


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments I just read that last week or so. It's a nice mix of how he deals with different situations. =)


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Started Back Blast… always crazy when these assassin books make it to DC and faceoff with the President(Orphan X) or CIA (Gray Man)


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Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments *insert thriller music* lol


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Soo wrote: "*insert thriller music* lol"

Mission Impossible music is another fun thing to theme that butterfly scene in Sidekicks Initiative to, in my head...


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I find the Gray Man books to be more nailbiters than Orphan X... Orphan X generally feels more in control...

Gray Man is more of a pinball thrust into events... and they never go off smoothly... you also can never quite tell how a Gray Man book will play out... altho you can make some assumptions, when non-intelligence personnel are introduced and given POV chapters, that they'll intersect with Gentry at some point... seems to be playing out in my current book, and giving an idea of how things will resolve in Gentry's favor... reading blurbs, I know that after this book (view spoiler)... so everything has to resolve, somehow...


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Brian | 1681 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "I find the Gray Man books to be more nailbiters than Orphan X... Orphan X generally feels more in control...

Gray Man is more of a pinball thrust into events... and they never go off smoothly... y..."


I am a big fan of both series'. I also like the Ben Coes (Dewey Andreas) thrillers as well. I am currently reading a stand alone Hour of the Assassin. About 120 pages in and its a pretty good one if you can ever find it at the library.


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