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message 1: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Art. It sounds daunting, doesn't it. Especially if we are talking about books about art. Or books of art. Books told by art. Books don't have pictures in them. What happens if I just don't get it?

Well never fear! We are going down this rabbit hole together, and there is always safety in numbers.

This March we are reading one of the following:
• A Graphic Novel
• A book about art or an artist
• A book with a famous artwork on the cover

Graphic novels come in all shapes and sizes, ranging a wide selection of topics. The Goodreads genre page is actually really useful for Graphic Novels, check it out here: https://www.goodreads.com/genres/grap.... Libraries have a really good stock of graphic novels these days, so have a look if you haven't before. I was amazed last time I went to my library that there was a whole section of them, and I can tell you ACT Public Libraries are not known for being up with the times.

Books about art, I want the book to discuss art theory, or art history. Or about an artist, as long as it discusses their art meaningfully not as an aside. You will have to explain this to me if it's not obvious. This is a non-fiction task.

Books with a famous artwork on the cover, I want the artwork to be recognisable. And as we all have different ideas of famous, particularly as we are all over the world, please explain and provide a link to the artwork for me so I can see.

Go forth and look at pictures!!

General Rules:
1. The book may be in any format - paperback, ebook, audiobook.
2. The book may be in any genre.
3. The book may NOT be combined with the Year Long Challenge.
4. The book must be read between March 1 – MArch 31, 2020 (based on your local time zone).
5. The challenge is for one book. You may read more books if you chose.
6. Books must be at least 150 pages long.
➽ In the case of ebooks & audiobooks, use the hardcover or paperback edition to determine page length. From the book page, select “all editions”, then select the first paper edition as your guide. If reading an ebook and there is no paper edition, ask for a ruling. If reading an audiobook and there is no paper edition, your book must be a minimum of 6 hours long.

Scoring:
What kind of art book was it
4 pts - Stand alone graphic novel
3 pts - Serialised graphic novel (more like traditional comic books. Eg is Saga, Vol. 1)
2 pts - A book about art
1 pt - A book with a famous artwork on the cover

How many pages? (following the rules above) :
5 pts – 501+
4 pts - 401-500
3 pts - 301-400
2 pts – 201-300
1 pt - 200 or less

Genre
5 pts – Romance
4 pts - Memoir
3 pts - Non-Fiction
2 pts – Fantasy
1 pt - Superheroes

Cover
4 pts - The authors name is larger than the title
3 pts - Cover is 75%+ red (check http://labs.tineye.com/color/ if unsure)
2 pts – Cover is 75%+ white (check http://labs.tineye.com/color/ if unsure)
1 pt - There is a face looking straight at the reader on it.

Random Points! - 2 pts each
• Your read was published originally in an language other than English
• If reading a book about an artist, your artist is dead. If your artist is alive, you get 1 point.
• There is a pet in your book. Not in passing, but a substantial presence.
• The book or series has been made into a movie or TV show (tell us what it is)
• Mars was a bit of a farming god as well as god of war, who knew?! 50%+ of your book is set in a farming community.
• Your title is one word
• St David has the patronage for not just Wales, but for Pembrokeshire, Naas, vegetarians, and poets. Take 2 points if your main character is a poet, and other if they are vegetarian. If you end up with a vegetarian poet, yes that's 4 points.
• International whisk(e)y day - If your characters partake in a whiskey/whisky of some sort. Not per tipple, once per read.


message 2: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments This is a challenge indeed! I like it!

I'll have to gopher and check out this thread for inspiration.


message 3: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19148 comments It's rare we have a challenge where a graphic novel fits. Good idea, Rus.

I've been meaning to read They Called Us Enemy for a while. I looked at the first several pages and I think it's going to read like a history lesson, which seems like it sort of contrasts the graphic novel format to me. It will be interesting for something different for me.


message 4: by Peggy (last edited Feb 25, 2020 06:23AM) (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Of course, Girl with a Pearl Earring by Tracy Chevalier would be the perfect fit! But I read it already.

I also came across some listopia's, no idea how useful they are:
Paintings on cover
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/9...
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...

Art History
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/...


message 6: by Jayme, Moderator (last edited Feb 25, 2020 06:27AM) (new)

Jayme | 4519 comments Love the graphic novel idea, Rusalka!

I am also looking at They Called Us Enemy or Good Talk: A Memoir in Conversations. It all depends on which one becomes available first from the library.

Can two people read the same book for the monthly challenge?


message 7: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59897 comments Dawn wrote: "I will be reading Strapless: John Singer Sargent and the Fall of Madame XStrapless John Singer Sargent and the Fall of Madame X by Deborah Davis"

I read an article this morning about that painting. I'd never heard of it before and here it is twice in one morning!


message 8: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59897 comments I've decided to try a graphic novel and have ordered Preludes & Nocturnes from the library.


message 9: by Kristie, Moderator (last edited Feb 25, 2020 09:42AM) (new)

Kristie | 19148 comments They Called Us Enemy is not available at my library at the moment and I think I want to stick with a graphic novel as I don't read many. I decided to go through the old choice awards and see whet else I was interested in. I found a few that might be interesting to me. These are all available at my library.

Teen Titans: Raven
Be Prepared
The Prince and the Dressmaker
Wires and Nerve, Volume 1
Hey, Kiddo
Wonder Woman, Volume 1: The Lies
Nimona
Locke & Key, Vol. 1: Welcome to Lovecraft


message 10: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 314 comments Janice wrote: "Dawn wrote: "I will be reading Strapless: John Singer Sargent and the Fall of Madame XStrapless John Singer Sargent and the Fall of Madame X by Deborah Davis"

I read an article th..."


Funny how that happens.


message 11: by Cherie (last edited Feb 25, 2020 11:43AM) (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments I started reading Neil Gaiman's The Sandman graphic novels several years ago and have never had a chance to get back to them. I will have a trek over to my library tonight and see if I can find Fables & Reflections Fables & Reflections (The Sandman, #6) by Neil Gaiman . If not, I am sure I can find something else off of the shelves.


message 12: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 592 comments Would either of these work?

False Impression by Jeffrey Archer - picture by Van Gogh on the cover?

The Painted Girls by Cathy Marie Buchanan - picture by Degas?

If not, I may try a graphic novel as not something I would normally read.


message 13: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments I would love to read Van Gogh's Ear: The True Story, but my library doesn't hold it and I don't think I am going to buy it at this point.

I might go with Optic Nerve which I own in Spanish. From the blurb: "The narrator of Optic Nerve is an Argentinian woman whose obsession is art. The story of her life is the story of the paintings, and painters, who matter to her. Her intimate, digressive voice guides us through a gallery of moments that have touched her."


message 14: by Lanelle (last edited Feb 25, 2020 01:49PM) (new)

Lanelle | 4020 comments I have Dancing Through Fire (Portraits, #1) by Kathryn Lasky (Degas "The Star, or Dancer on the Stage") and Trick of the Eye by Dennis Haseley (Vermeer "Girl Interrupted at Her Music'") set aside for the year-long challenge. So I think I'll read The Invention of Hugo Cabret.


message 15: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments Exciting. Love graphic novels. I think I have Saga, Vol. 7, Saga, Vol. 8 and Saga, Vol. 9 that I've not read yet. Also I've only read book 1 of Neil Gaiman's Sandman series. I'm sure there are others that I'd like to read too.

I highly recommend the Locke & Key series starting with Locke & Key, Vol. 1: Welcome to Lovecraft and Nimona.


message 16: by Lucy (new)

Lucy Furr (lucyfurr) | 775 comments Oh good, I just picked up a copy of The Sandman: Overture for a great price at a local used book shop. Look at me, predicting the future without knowing it!


message 17: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19148 comments Sarah wrote: "Exciting. Love graphic novels. I think I have Saga, Vol. 7, Saga, Vol. 8 and Saga, Vol. 9 that I've not read yet..."

Thanks for the recommendations, Sarah. Locke & Key and Nimona are both on my list of possibilities.

I've read the Saga series through book 7, but I don't remember enough of the story to just pick it up again. I think I'd need to re-read and I'm just not in the mood to do that.


message 18: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments Yeah it's been a while wince I read the other Saga graphic novels but i'm hoping i can pick it up. I remember enough i think. Not sure i'll be able to read it though. I tried to get it from my library before and it was misplaced. I have put in a reservation but i think i'll have the same problem. So i've requested the next Sandman. I need eome more graphic novel recommendations.


message 19: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59897 comments Sarah wrote: "Exciting. Love graphic novels. I think I have Saga, Vol. 7, Saga, Vol. 8 and Saga, Vol. 9 that I've not read yet. Also I've only read book 1 of Neil ..."

I tried listening to Locke and Key on audiobook and it just didn't work. When pictures tell the story, dialogue on its own is confusing.


message 20: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19148 comments I was surprised that my library had Hey, Kiddo on audio. It seems strange to me to have a graphic novel on audio. The artwork is such a big part of the book. I have to admit that I do have Locke & Key on Audible, but I think it was a freebie.


message 21: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments I had no idea there were audiobooks of graphic novels...


message 22: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Jayme wrote: "Can two people read the same book for the monthly challenge? "

Oh yes. You could even have a buddy read for a challenge!


message 23: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Leslie wrote: "Would either of these work?

False Impression by Jeffrey Archer - picture by Van Gogh on the cover?

The Painted Girls by Cathy Marie Buchanan - picture by Degas?

If not, I may try a graphic novel as..."


The Painted Girls would definitely work. Took me a bit to work out the Jeffery Archer book, but it might be clearer in hardcopy.


message 24: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Lanelle wrote: "So I think I'll read The Invention of Hugo Cabret. "

I had no idea that was a graphic novel. There you go!


message 25: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Sandra wrote: "I would love to read Van Gogh's Ear: The True Story, but my library doesn't hold it and I don't think I am going to buy it at this point.

I might go with [book:Optic Nerve|42077222..."


This one is borderline. It's categorised as fiction, and the book about art should be non-fiction. However, I have had friends read it who have remarked it is more like a memoir through short essays...

Do you have another option?


message 26: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments My personal recommendations for those looking. I've read and loved:
The Complete Maus
Hyperbole and a Half: Unfortunate Situations, Flawed Coping Mechanisms, Mayhem, and Other Things That Happened
Pyongyang: A Journey in North Korea
The Complete Persepolis


I'm unsure what I am going to read. I have all the Sandmans, and the first Saga. Otherwise:
I have another Neil Gaiman graphic novel Black Orchid
Aya
Anya's Ghost
Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic
Through the Woods
A whole heap of Guy Delisle as I bought them all Burma Chronicles, Jerusalem: Chronicles from the Holy City, Shenzhen, Hostage

I also have Tamara Drewe but I haven't read Tess of the D'Urbervilles yet.


message 27: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments Rusalka wrote: "This one is borderline. It's categorised as fiction, and the book about art should be non-fiction. However, I have had friends read it who have remarked it is more like a memoir through short essays...

Do you have another option?"


I don't have another option yet, but I haven't gophered either. Don't worry about that. I will find something.


message 28: by Almeta (last edited Feb 25, 2020 11:28PM) (new)

Almeta (menfrommarrs) | 11457 comments Lanelle wrote: "I......... So I think I'll read The Invention of Hugo Cabret....."

An incredible book!


message 29: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59897 comments Kristie wrote: "I was surprised that my library had Hey, Kiddo on audio. It seems strange to me to have a graphic novel on audio. The artwork is such a big part of the book. I have to admit that I ..."

That's how I got it too. No point in even returning it. Hehehe!


message 30: by Trudy (new)

Trudy (trudyan) | 1779 comments Am I the only one who had to google the challenge title to understand the reference?


message 31: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59897 comments TrudyAn wrote: "Am I the only one who had to google the challenge title to understand the reference?"

I hadn't until you commented. :)


message 32: by Lucy (last edited Feb 25, 2020 07:45PM) (new)

Lucy Furr (lucyfurr) | 775 comments Janice wrote: "TrudyAn wrote: "Am I the only one who had to google the challenge title to understand the reference?"

I hadn't until you commented. :)"


Same! LOL

I've even seen the movie but didn't recognize it.


message 33: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Rusalka wrote: "My personal recommendations for those looking. I've read and loved:
Hyperbole and a Half: Unfortunate Situations, Flawed Coping Mechanisms, Mayhem, and Other Things That Happened..."


Oh, I have that book in my den. I borrowed it from AmyK a long time ago, I think. I do not think I ever read it.


message 34: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments I've seen the quote, but did not even pay attention to it. I just googled it. LOL!


message 36: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I would like to try a graphic novel, but I don't have access to them except for buying them. I just checked the first Sandman book and that's €20! Not sure if you can also get them electronically, but that doesn't attract me at all.


message 37: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Cool, Anne. Your book looks good. I’m going to see if my library has it. I like the look of the author’s other books too.


Saar The Book owl | 2650 comments I'm going for Blankets by Craig Thompson
This graphic novel has been on my bookshelf for a very long time.


message 39: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments Peggy wrote: "I would like to try a graphic novel, but I don't have access to them except for buying them. I just checked the first Sandman book and that's €20! Not sure if you can also get them electronically, ..."

I get mine from the library. I'm not prepqred to pay the price they charge for them.


message 40: by Debra (new)

Debra (debra_t) | 6542 comments I'm going to read one I own in print and have had on my TBR for a while. It is an anthology of short stories inspired by Edward Hopper's artwork. The painting "New York Movie" is on the cover.

In Sunlight or In Shadow Stories Inspired by the Paintings of Edward Hopper by Lawrence Block


message 41: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Peggy wrote: "I would like to try a graphic novel, but I don't have access to them except for buying them. I just checked the first Sandman book and that's €20! Not sure if you can also get them electronically, ..."

I have a friend who only reads them on e-readers. So worth looking at!


message 42: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments TrudyAn wrote: "Am I the only one who had to google the challenge title to understand the reference?"

Sorry. This is a standard quote in this house. Too many 90s movies.


message 43: by Debra (new)

Debra (debra_t) | 6542 comments I also just ordered the first Locke and Key graphic novel Locke and Key: Welcome to Lovecraft #1 from the library. I have never really cared for graphic novels, but this is a favorite author and son of Stephen King. My experience is like father, like son!


message 44: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Rusalka wrote: "Peggy wrote: "I would like to try a graphic novel, but I don't have access to them except for buying them. I just checked the first Sandman book and that's €20! Not sure if you can also get them el..."

Really? My ereader does only black and white, so it would seem I would miss half the fun. I can imagine reading it on a tablet though. I'll see if I can find one that's not too expensive as an ebook.

@Sarah: yeah, I think using the library is a great option, but I'm not a member of one as it's normally no use to me.


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Excellent! I have had Nimona on my physical TBR shelf for ages.


message 46: by Trudy (new)

Trudy (trudyan) | 1779 comments Rusalka wrote: "TrudyAn wrote: "Am I the only one who had to google the challenge title to understand the reference?"

Sorry. This is a standard quote in this house. Too many 90s movies."


It’s a great quote. I could use it a lot!

Still pondering my book options for this challenge.


message 47: by Margo (new)

Margo | 11629 comments Rusalka wrote: "My personal recommendations for those looking. I've read and loved:
The Complete Maus
Hyperbole and a Half: Unfortunate Situations, Flawed Coping Mechanisms, Mayhem, and Other Th..."</i>

[book:The Complete Maus
is wonderful! I wouldn't have believed that such a sensitive story could be told through this medium.

I haven't yet managed to find a book that I haven't already listened to. I did get the audible freebee Locke & Key, Vol. 1: Welcome to Lovecraft but I've had one bad experience with graphic novel on audio and from what Janice says, this one is just as bad!



message 48: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments Debra wrote: "I also just ordered the first Locke and Key graphic novel Locke and Key: Welcome to Lovecraft #1 from the library. I have never really cared for graphic novels, but this is a favori..."

You're going to love it!


message 49: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments Weirdly i recognise the quote but i've never seen the film. So not sure what's going on there.


message 50: by Ayacchi (new)

Ayacchi | 1724 comments Rusalka wrote: "My personal recommendations for those looking. I've read and loved:
The Complete Maus
[book:Hyperbole and a Half: Unfortunate Situations, Flawed Coping Mechanisms, Mayhem, and Other Th..."


Had read some and planning to read Aya this year but still haven't find it yet :(


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