2020 Cosmere BR (Currently reading: Edgedancer)

[Kathrine]

Choko wrote: "Ok, I am in!"

Yay :D Excited to start discussing and be back in the Cosmere! I've been listening to Shardcast, a podcast about the Cosmere run by the poeple who also have the Coppermind (largest wiki of the Cosmere) and it has made me super hyped for (re)reading Brandon's books!

[Anni]

Oops, I wanted to start yesterday but realized that I only bought book 2-4 at audible, I got the first book quite cheap as a CD, I have only access to my computer where I saved it tomorrow 😅 I'll transfer it to my phone then and start in the evening

[Choko]

OK, I will start tomorrow too◉‿◉

[Sophia]

Hey everyone, I'm in for the Mistborn BRs as well :) I just finished Words of Radiance, so I don't think I will read that one twice in one year :D

[Kathrine]

I started reading a while ago but haven't touched the book (or any other book) in some days now – whoops.. But I'm about halfway through and I LOVE IT. Like, a lot xD Like so much more than Era 1 of Mistborn, which I found pretty good but nothing mind-blowing. I think part of the reason I had a hard time with Era 1 was that I just didn't connect with the characters – they felt like very stereotypical-medieval-fantasy-book-people. Wax and Wayne are much more interesting to me and I think a part of that might be their age? In recent years I've been noticing that I seem to gravitate from liking young-ish characters (teens and young adults) to being more intrigued by older characters (another Cosmere example is Dalinar *cough* or should I say Daddy-nar? *cough* I'm so sorry hahahaha I've been up since 4:30). My physical age may only be 20 but my soul has apparently aged a lot in recent years – must be the terrible economy and dire environment situation 🤔

Anyway super stoked to start discussing with y'all – hope everyone stays safe (and at home, of course!) <3

[Kathrine]

Sophia wrote: "Hey everyone, I'm in for the Mistborn BRs as well :) I just finished Words of Radiance, so I don't think I will read that one twice in one year :D"

Yay, excited to have you, Sophia! :D How did you like Words of Radiance? Is this your first time reading the Cosmere?

[Anni]

I started, but only read the prologue so far, I will listen to a few more minutes before going to sllep, but I am afraid I'm too tired to make much progress.

Still I'm sooo happy to be back (it's a re-read for me) and the characters immediately made me smile :)

[Anni]

Sophia wrote: "Hey everyone, I'm in for the Mistborn BRs as well :) I just finished Words of Radiance, so I don't think I will read that one twice in one year :D"

Yaaaay! ❤️

[Anni]

Kathrine wrote: "I started reading a while ago but haven't touched the book (or any other book) in some days now – whoops.. But I'm about halfway through and I LOVE IT. Like, a lot xD Like so much more than Era 1 o..."

Haha, great summary and I laughed wholeheartedly about your oh-so-old soul, be careful that you don't get all sound and sensible all of a sudden as well 😂

But I agree, I really like that the main characters are a bit older and that there's less angst and drama. I think one of my favorite tropes is a great friendship between characters (like Hadrian & Royce or Locke & Jean) and I think we have the same here :)

[Sophia]

Kathrine wrote: "Sophia wrote: "Hey everyone, I'm in for the Mistborn BRs as well :) I just finished Words of Radiance, so I don't think I will read that one twice in one year :D"

Yay, excited to have you, Sophia!..."

Aww thank you for the warm welcome :) Yes, its my first time reading all those Sanderson books. I really loved WoR (maybe slightly less than the Way of Kings). I always find myself shying away from these huge books at first and needing time to convince myself to start and then I finish them within 2 weeks 😅

I also just listened to the Prologue so far, I hope I can get in some more audiobook time today. I usually listen to my audiobooks on the way to work, but since I've been working from home for the past 2,5 weeks… and the way from the bathroom to my desk isn't that far… But I'm really excited to get to know Wax and Wayne :)

[Sophia]

So, I'm somewhere in the 3rd chapter now and I would loooove for Tillaume to brew me some tee :D
(view spoiler)[ I have to admit that I'm still a little confused about the twinborns and it seems that there are some new powers like the time/speed bubble that Wayne can do. So far, I enjoy it but I'm not really in the story yet (probably because I have only listened to half a chapter or maximum a chapter in one sitting so far) >/spoiler> (hide spoiler)]

[Choko]

I love the butler! Just got to the wedding they are attending... Wow! (view spoiler)[ This got out of control pretty darn fast! I am glad he saved the more likable girl. I like his wife to be, but she is not for him. He is wild and free and I just don't think that such a stickler for social mores as she is would ever be compatible with him. I really like Wayne! He is an easy character to like. I was so sad with what happened with the lady in the beginning, I didn't think he would get over it at all. Having Wayne close seems to bring him some joy.

I wonder if there is going to be a way for him to hook up with Lady M, instead of her cousin, since he is getting hitched for the money, and Lady M. seems to be a poor relation... (hide spoiler)]

[Kathrine]

Sir Anni wrote: "Haha, great summary and I laughed wholeheartedly about your oh-so-old soul, be careful that you don't get all sound and sensible all of a sudden as well 😂

But I agree, I really like that the main characters are a bit older and that there's less angst and drama. I think one of my favorite tropes is a great friendship between characters (like Hadrian & Royce or Locke & Jean) and I think we have the same here :)"

Oh God, we can't have that! 😂

Agree about the friendship thing! You can really tell how much Wax and Wayne love each other. It's that kind of relationship where you know each other so well that you basically become like siblings with all that entails: knowing each other's strengths and struggles, what makes you happy or mad, both laughing and sighing of your jokes, teasing each other but of course always having each other's back. I love that kind of friendship <3

[Kathrine]

Sophia wrote: "Aww thank you for the warm welcome :) Yes, its my first time reading all those Sanderson books. I really loved WoR (maybe slightly less than the Way of Kings). I always find myself shying away from these huge books at first and needing time to convince myself to start and then I finish them within 2 weeks 😅"

:D

Yay glad to hear you're enjoying them! I started out with Way of Kings as my first Sanderson book which I think was pretty insane in hindsight given the massive pagecount and immense world-building – I was lucky to be quickly swept up in the story otherwise I feel like it's a book that can very easily exhaust you xD

[Kathrine]

Sophia wrote: "So, I'm somewhere in the 3rd chapter now and I would loooove for Tillaume to brew me some tee :D
[spoilers removed]"

Saaaame! I love tea but always have trouble picking one out because I have so many different kinds. It'd be nice to have a person pick for me depending on my moods and needs xD

Re: your spoiler: (view spoiler)[I am also confused but I trust that everything will be more clear once we get further into the series hopefully? I'm also itching to find out if we'll see/hear about Era 1 characters or more of what's happened with the Allomancy and Feruchemy powers since that time – also maybe some more culture and history stuff? (hide spoiler)]

[Kathrine]

I've managed to read quite a bit the last few days so I'm done with chapter 15. Still very much enjoying it! (view spoiler)[I wouldn't say it's fast-paced per se, but it's also not as.... dense... as Brandon's books usually are, and it's actually kind of a relief to not be afraid that I'll break my nose if I drop the book on my face! I can't really figure out the ~overarching plot~ and wider cosmere connections yet, but I do kinda like the lowkey stakes of it: just Wax and Wayne and some people in need of saving, and an evil crimelord to take down. Also, loving the fight scenes so far! It's amazing to see Allomancy be applied to some more modern-day like stuff like guns (hide spoiler)]

[Anni]

Kathrine wrote: "Sophia wrote: "So, I'm somewhere in the 3rd chapter now and I would loooove for Tillaume to brew me some tee :D
[spoilers removed]"

Saaaame! I love tea but always have trouble picking one out bec..."

Ooooh yes! I would love a tea brewed by him! :)

About your spoiler, I think we already got a lot of hints, especially with the religions. Also, (view spoiler)[doesn't the name Ladrian sound familiar? :) (hide spoiler)]

[Anni]

Sophia wrote: "Kathrine wrote: "Sophia wrote: "Hey everyone, I'm in for the Mistborn BRs as well :) I just finished Words of Radiance, so I don't think I will read that one twice in one year :D"

Yay, excited to ..."

You could slide down your laundry churte from time to time to keep things interesting? 😂

I also haven't made much progress this week, but I'm happy the weekend finally arrived. I hope to get a little more reading done today and tomorrow

[Choko]

Wax is a descendant of Breeze and his lady love◉‿◉

[Kathrine]

Sir Anni wrote: "About your spoiler, I think we already got a lot of hints, especially with the religions. Also, (view spoiler)"

Oh definitely! And the swears they use also tell a lot. I love they way Brandon tells us so much without actually using any exposition – but I guess I kinda want maybe a bit exposition hahaha xD

I must confess I'm kinda blanking on that one, but I'm sure if I leaf through my era 1 books it'll come back real quickly – so much of my Cosmere knowledge is from Stormlight and Roshar, I guess that means I'm probably due for a reread of Era 1 soon xD

[Choko]

Max seems to have very similar mix of abilities as the old tyrant did...

[Sophia]

Choko wrote: "Wax is a descendant of Breeze and his lady love◉‿◉"

Ohhhh yes 😱😱😱 I totally didn’t make that connection!!!

[Timelord Iain, Tech Support]

I started my Sanderson re-read, today...

I read The Eleventh Metal, from Arcanum Unbound, then moved right into Final Empire...

Eleventh Metal just shows Kelsier learning to be a Mistborn, prior to the events of the first trilogy, but I like the short scenes... I also love the first Mistborn book the most, out of the first trilogy, whenever I re-read... the ending is just packed with meaningful moments for the rest of the Mistborn books, and the Cosmere in general...

(I think I discussed all that vaguely enough to not need spoiler tags)...

Re: Kelsier (for people who have read all 6 books & Secret Histories): (view spoiler)[it always pains me, that I can't discuss Kelsier with people that are frustrated by his death in the first book... whether it's people who haven't read books 2-3 OR people who haven't read books 4-6...

I mean... Kelsier is ALIVE... again... and going to be a main character in the 10-12th Mistborn books, when we go Sci-Fi, and Hoid's machinations start coming to fruition... (hide spoiler)]

I'm glad, that in recent years, Sanderson has started acknowledging that he needs to start focusing on the main Cosmere books, and less on possible side projects, if he's going to finish the main storyline in his lifetime... like we've discussed in many threads, barring delays, we're already looking at around 2040-2050 for the whole thing to end...

[Timelord Iain, Tech Support]

The main Easter Egg, in Era 2, I think, is Khriss and Nazh... they're (view spoiler)[ worldhoppers from White Sands (comic), and they make the maps and write the glossary of terms at the end of each book...

I think they show up on-page a few times, and publish any of the news-sheet ads that say to contact K&N (hide spoiler)]

White Sands factors into this era of Mistborn alot, if you're willing to jump down the wormhole of speculation (view spoiler)[Trell sounds like a bastardization of Trelagism, a religion Sazed explained in the Final Empire, and a religion from White Sands world (a religion started by another Shard for Reasons)... (hide spoiler)]

[Timelord Iain, Tech Support]

Kathrine wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "Haha, great summary and I laughed wholeheartedly about your oh-so-old soul, be careful that you don't get all sound and sensible all of a sudden as well 😂

But I agree, I really li..."

There's a reason fans list Wax & Wayne in bromance pairings with Royce & Hadrian (Riyria)

[Timelord Iain, Tech Support]

Kathrine wrote: "I've managed to read quite a bit the last few days so I'm done with chapter 15. Still very much enjoying it! [spoilers removed]"

This is very much a light and fun, relatively standalone, book... Sanderson wrote this when he needed a break from Stormlight Archive 2, I think... he didn't plan a Weird Western cycle of Mistborn... it wasn't until later, and fan love, that he tacked on a connected trilogy with a bigger story (and the story gets darker in books 2-3)... it's also why this cycle has 4 books and not 3...

[Timelord Iain, Tech Support]

Kathrine wrote: "Sophia wrote: "So, I'm somewhere in the 3rd chapter now and I would loooove for Tillaume to brew me some tee :D
[spoilers removed]"

Saaaame! I love tea but always have trouble picking one out bec..."

Sanderson puts a lot of thought into his magic systems... I'm not sure how much is explained in the story, but you get a fair amount of info from the Ars Arcanum at the end (glossary of magic stuff)... that info is also on the wiki, and expanded on from interview answers...

If I remember correctly, the magic development in Era 2 builds off of the Lord Ruler stuff in Era 1 (view spoiler)[where using Allomancy to burn Feruchemical metal stores allows supercharged magic powers for short durations, at a tradeoff... and being an Allomancer Misting and a Feruchemical "Misting" of the same element, is called Compounding...

People who have mismatched Allomantic/Feruchemical elements are just Twinborn... this was the result of interbreeding after the fall of the Lord Ruler... (hide spoiler)]

I started typing misinformation there, and corrected it a bit with the wiki... doesn't take long for the details to start to fuzz :)

https://coppermind.net/wiki/Allomancy...

[Anni]

Uhoh, Mr. Timelord is taking over the Cosmere thread :D

[Anni]

Timelord Iain wrote: "The main Easter Egg, in Era 2, I th..."

I haven't reached the scene yet, but (view spoiler)[ Hoid (hide spoiler)] also made an appearance at least once :)

[Timelord Iain, Tech Support]

Sir Anni wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "The main Easter Egg, in Era 2, I th..."

I haven't reached the scene yet, but [spoilers removed] also made an appearance at least once :)"

I skipped (view spoiler)[Hoid (hide spoiler)], since (view spoiler)[Hoid (hide spoiler)] is in every book in every series... that's kind of the point...

Sanderson has talked in interviews about how he had the idea of (view spoiler)[Hoid (hide spoiler)] before he had the idea of the Cosmere... I think he said, he would add a character like (view spoiler)[Hoid (hide spoiler)] to stories he read, creating a through-thread... a worldhopper from the get-go :)

[Timelord Iain, Tech Support]

Sir Anni wrote: "Uhoh, Mr. Timelord is taking over the Cosmere thread :D"

It's inevitable, when I start skimming comments, that I have a ton to respond with... I've spent literal DAYS on the Coppermind Wiki, 17th Shard Forums, etc...

[Timelord Iain, Tech Support]

Sophia wrote: "Hey everyone, I'm in for the Mistborn BRs as well :) I just finished Words of Radiance, so I don't think I will read that one twice in one year :D"

Just re-read Chapter 57 :D (view spoiler)[Honor is dead... But I'll do what I can do. (hide spoiler)]

That arena fight is one of my favorite chapters in the series... it's funny how 2 of my favorite scenes in the series, so far, involve claps... (view spoiler)[Kaladin clapping the sword from killing him, and Dalinar clapping big spoiler stuff in book 3 (that I struggle to summarize right now) (hide spoiler)]

[Anni]

Timelord Iain wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "Uhoh, Mr. Timelord is taking over the Cosmere thread :D"

It's inevitable, when I start skimming comments, that I have a ton to respond with... I've spent literal DAYS on the Coppe..."

And you're most welcome :) I just saw the 9 unread comments and before opening the thread I already guessed that you'll be here.

[Anni]

Timelord Iain wrote: "Sophia wrote: "Hey everyone, I'm in for the Mistborn BRs as well :) I just finished Words of Radiance, so I don't think I will read that one twice in one year :D"

Just re-read Chapter 57 :D [spoil..."

*see what I can do 😜

And yes those scenes were amazing! I'm so excited to re-read SA!

[Anni]

Kathrine wrote: "Choko wrote: "Ok, I am in!"

Yay :D Excited to start discussing and be back in the Cosmere! I've been listening to Shardcast, a podcast about the Cosmere run by the poeple who also have the Copperc..."

Ok, I blame you for starting it as well :) 249 episodes to go...

[Anni]

Back to the book: I'm about 25% through and I'm loving it (view spoiler)[ It's great how Wax and Wayne complement each other! I fell so bad for Wax, every time Lassie is mentioned, how horrible to imagine that you were involved in killing a loved one, even with it being accidentally.
On a way happier note, I love Wayne's quirk to swap things out and his disguises.
I think I've forgotten a lot of details from the books, but reading certain scenes reminds me of things going to happen. I'm excited for to see more of Steris and Marasi. (hide spoiler)]

[Kathrine]

Timelord Iain wrote: "I'm glad, that in recent years, Sanderson has started acknowledging that he needs to start focusing on the main Cosmere books, and less on possible side projects, if he's going to finish the main storyline in his lifetime... like we've discussed in many threads, barring delays, we're already looking at around 2040-2050 for the whole thing to end..."

It's so daunting to think that we're only (and perhaps not even) a third of the way through the cosmere, and he's published 12 books so far. This is such a huge undertaking and I have so much respect for his eternal dedication to the fandom and his transparency with his progress. It makes it very easy to be a fan of him when he's constantly sharing updates and tidbits of what's to come.

But agree, it's good that he's aware of how massive this thing is, and that he's being realistic about the timeline. It's kinda terrifying to think that I might be +50 years old when this thing finishes... xD

[Kathrine]

Timelord Iain wrote: "Sophia wrote: "Hey everyone, I'm in for the Mistborn BRs as well :) I just finished Words of Radiance, so I don't think I will read that one twice in one year :D"

Just re-read Chapter 57 :D [spoil..."

Man that entire chapter was just 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 I can't wait to relieve the rush of Words of Radiance, I binged it in a few days and could barely function after finishing it hahaha

[Kathrine]

Sir Anni wrote: "Ok, I blame you for starting it as well :) 249 episodes to go..."

that's a burden I'll happily bear if it means more people get to experience the fun of Shardcast! :D Hope you'll enjoy it!

I'm thoroughly addicted, these guys are a ton of fun and know so much about the Cosmere, it's great to listen to when you're driving or just hanging out at home chilling – and it's so much fun to guess along in the Who's That Cosmere Character?-game show at the end of each episode xD

[Kathrine]

Sir Anni wrote: "Back to the book: I'm about 25% through"

(view spoiler)[Wayne's "trading" is hilarious, especially because it seems he's completely serious about it xD And I love Steris and Marasi!

I think I read that Brandon wrote Steris to be canonically autistic and I think he did a really good job: she has multiple traits that are things autistic people can experience like the "being bad with people" and the very serious and strict approach to arrangements like the marriage contract – but the best thing is that she's not in any way treated as a lesser character or infantilized by the other characters. My heart is very happy whenever I get to read about characters like myself who are treated like a real person and not just a stereotype <3 (hide spoiler)]

[Choko]

You guys will have to let me know when you find those Easter eggs, since I seem to have missed them all... I get so caught up in the story, I miss details like this first time around, and this is my first read of this part of the series...

Iain, I am so happy and grateful for your guidance in this, I have no idea how to express it! Thank you ❤️!

[Choko]

Katherine, now I have to check that Shardcast too! Where will I find the time?

I also love characters who seem to be on the autistic spectrum! I have a foster adult I took in 5 years ago who is lower functioning Asperger's syndrome, and I adore him and his personality! I love seeing parts of him in characters I read in my books◉‿◉

[Timelord Iain, Tech Support]

Steris is a favorite of mine, too... especially in the later books... too spoilery to discuss now :D

[Siobhan]

Timelord Iain wrote: "Steris is a favorite of mine, too... especially in the later books... too spoilery to discuss now :D"

Steris! ❤️

[Choko]

I am starting today◉‿◉

[Silvana]

I'm 18% into Shadows of Self and felt the need to refresh myself on Allomancy. Clearly a lot of time has passed since my last Mistborn book :(

I remember not liking Marasi much in the first book but here I could tolerate her more...

[Kathrine]

Choko wrote: "Katherine, now I have to check that Shardcast too! Where will I find the time?

I also love characters who seem to be on the autistic spectrum! I have a foster adult I took in 5 years ago who is lo..."

I said the same thing to myself when I started listening last year but now I'm running out of episodes! xD

Yeah I think it's such an important thing in books that all kinds of people with all kinds of different challenges are represented, because it makes a huge impact for the people who experience those things in real life, both firsthand and secondhand. I can never get why some people are vehemently against accurate representation in media because it can be a life-saver for an individual in a minority to see someone like themself <3

[Kathrine]

I finished some days ago – such a fun story with great characters, an intriguing plot, some very nice world-building and all packed into less than 500 pages! I'm very impressed by Brandon's restraint here xD But overall an awesome return to Scadrial, can't wait to continue! @Silvana, I'll join you reading Shadows today or tomorrow :D How far along are the rest of you?

[Silvana]

Kathrine wrote: "I finished some days ago – such a fun story with great characters, an intriguing plot, some very nice world-building and all packed into less than 500 pages! I'm very impressed by Brandon's restrai..."

I am already 1/3 into the book, should finish by tomorrow.

[Kathrine]

Silvana wrote: "Kathrine wrote: "I finished some days ago – such a fun story with great characters, an intriguing plot, some very nice world-building and all packed into less than 500 pages! I'm very impressed by ..."

Guess I'll start today then, hahahaha xD