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My review of Reticence
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Yes, I just see both Legends and new SW as parallel canons, doesn't bother me much. By the way: Thrawn has been brought back into the official canon with a new trilogy: Thrawn - I guess he was just too good to leave in Legends. :-)
I've only read the old Thrawn trilogy so far, and so long ago that I've forgotten everything about it apart from enjoying it.

Tamara, have you read Dragonsbane? The two MCs are older. I love that book and have re..."
Thanks, Michelle. From the reviews, it sounds really good and also relatable! I'll check it out.
One book that has a slightly older protagonist (of the two main) is Janny Wurts' 'To Ride Hell's Chasm'. Which was a bit of a mark against it for me when I first read it, being a younger adult then. A really good story that I liked better the second time.


Long Earth series #4, not recommended to read as a stand-alone. I have not read the preceding novels in this series so I am reviewing the book on its own merits while ignoring the fact that I was not familiar with the characters or the on-going plot lines. I found the basic ideas interesting, the science absurd, the characters not realistic and the dialogue leaden. 2 stars.
I will ensure to capy-bar the door against any dapper pirate dangers, and aard-void any advancing aardvarks!
I'm really liking God Stalk. It's so very reminiscent of my childhood reads.
I'm really liking God Stalk. It's so very reminiscent of my childhood reads.
Peter wrote: "I just finished reading the Thrawn Trilogy. I really enjoyed it. May be strange that the "Legends" books aren't "Canon". But comic book fans are familiar with older storylines being taken out of th..."
Just like you and Eva, I enjoy both Star Wars Legends and Canon. The first science fiction books I ever read were the Star Wars Legends (then Expanded Universe) books and they hold a lot of memories for me, although they are of ... varying quality. :D
I love the Thrawn Trilogy, read it several times, and I agree that Thrawn is more of an antagonist, not an outright villain. That's probably because the books are so widely beloved, because there are more layers to 'the big evil'.
I finished my reread of Foundation and I guess I won't be recommending this one anymore. Originally I wanted to reread all the Foundation books, as research for a current project of mine, but now I'm not so sure anymore.
Now I started The Sol Majestic and The Devil in Silver.
I enjoy The Sol Majestic so far, it's not quite what I expected, but in a good way. I haven't read much of The Devil in Silver, but Victor LaValle's writing is, again, great. I have been wanting to read more of his work for a long time, and after reading so much science fiction, I am in the mood for some horror/suspense.
Just like you and Eva, I enjoy both Star Wars Legends and Canon. The first science fiction books I ever read were the Star Wars Legends (then Expanded Universe) books and they hold a lot of memories for me, although they are of ... varying quality. :D
I love the Thrawn Trilogy, read it several times, and I agree that Thrawn is more of an antagonist, not an outright villain. That's probably because the books are so widely beloved, because there are more layers to 'the big evil'.
I finished my reread of Foundation and I guess I won't be recommending this one anymore. Originally I wanted to reread all the Foundation books, as research for a current project of mine, but now I'm not so sure anymore.
Now I started The Sol Majestic and The Devil in Silver.
I enjoy The Sol Majestic so far, it's not quite what I expected, but in a good way. I haven't read much of The Devil in Silver, but Victor LaValle's writing is, again, great. I have been wanting to read more of his work for a long time, and after reading so much science fiction, I am in the mood for some horror/suspense.

Yes! I want to read the new Thrawn trilogy. I've read the synopsis and it looks like it takes place during the Original Trilogy timeline. And Timothy Zahn is writing it.

Did you not enjoy Foundation the second time. I cant remember much about it. But I remember really enjoying it when I read it. But it was like 10 years ago.


Currently reading "elephant in the kitchen" for something different. the book discusses a couple running a safety preserve in South Africa. I hope there is a special (much worse) hell for poachers.

Navigator, no need to hedge with us! but you might get more response if you start a thread in the recs folder. conversation here tends to move too quickly for everyone to catch requests :)

It is part one of a story that's broken into two novels, so it is necessary to read on asap. Since the second book as well has 40 hours of audiotime I will squeeze in some BotMs first, otherwise I'll be behind on my schedule. But then I will pick up Judas Unchained. It is not up there with Dan Simmons' Hyperion Cantos, but it comes close.
Now I indulge myself in a listen of Cage of Souls by the master himself. I've already read and loved this one, but in another group it was voted as BotM, so I have to take the opportunity to listen to it this time. The audio narrator has a wonderful 'snobbish' British upperclass voice and this fits so perfect to the elitist Victorian vocabulary and voice of the mc who is telling the story as recollection.
ETA: I just realised that "Pandora's Star" is on the groupshelf. Yeah! One more crossed of the list!

I am reading Children of Ruin now (60%).

The Cybernetic Tea Shop was quite charming. Thanks for the pointer.

The 3 that have impressed me the most so far are
"Children of Time/Children of Ruin" with its wonderful balance of hard
biological science and psychological depth. And since I'm an arachnophilia this was a dream come true.
"Spiderlight" which starts as a classical D&D Fantasy with all your typical tropes of the genre and then turns them upside down bit by bit.
"Cage of Souls" which is an end-of-civilization story with steampunk vibe told in the typical 'dear reader's style of Victorian authors. (But fortunately he leaves out the 'dear reader' mention as such)

Peter wrote: "Did you not enjoy Foundation the second time. I cant remember much about it. But I remember really enjoying it when I read it. But it was like 10 years ago."
I, too, loved it when I read it as a teenager. But ... well, some things did not age well and others I view much more critically now than I did back then. I gave it some leeway, because it was written in the 50s, but not every part of my critique can be countered by that.
If you are interested, you can read my review here: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
I, too, loved it when I read it as a teenager. But ... well, some things did not age well and others I view much more critically now than I did back then. I gave it some leeway, because it was written in the 50s, but not every part of my critique can be countered by that.
If you are interested, you can read my review here: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

I am reading Children of Ruin now (60%)."
Even though I'm not Gabi, I'm going to say that I loved the Shadows of the Apt series:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/4589...
it doesn't get as much love here, even though it does have Spider Kinden. I love that series

https://www.goodreads.com/series/4589...
it doesn't get as much love here, even though it does have Spider Kinden. I love that series ..."
It would certainly get more love if I finally got round to reading it :D. He has written so much that I can't keep up at the moment.

I am waiting to see what people think about it before I commit myself to 880 pages.

I’m looking forward to his DOORS OF EDEN. He’s impressively prolific...

Keen to look at his other works but wow so many titles!


first book in series (my link above goes nowhere): Empire in Black and Gold
and I'd like to add that this series is complete/finished/done, so there's no waiting on the next books to come out

Switching to The Rosewater Insurrection.

I, too, loved it when I ..."
Thanks for sharing your review. I really can't for the life of me remember hardly anything about Foundation, which might be saying something. All that I remember is that I enjoyed it at the time. I think you make a good point that Asimov does not flesh out his character very well. Arthur C Clarke had similarly two-dimensional characters. I think one of the weaknesses of both Asimov and Heinlein is they didn't flesh out many of the details of their stories. How does Hyperspace work? How does the space ship fly? It just does because the author says it does.



I am enjoying The Devil in Silver, although LaValle's writing definitely did improve between that and The Ballad of Black Tom. It's a bit irritating sometimes, but there are a lot of amazingly written scenes as well.
I am missing the suspense a little. At 50% in, there were only one or two scenes of that. But I'm getting a quite S. King-like vibe from this book and if I'm correct, it starts slow, builds up and then the horror stuff and action happens in the second half. I love the characters, though.
And the last scene I read - boy, that was hard! Especially in the times we live in right now. The horror was the realness of it.
I am missing the suspense a little. At 50% in, there were only one or two scenes of that. But I'm getting a quite S. King-like vibe from this book and if I'm correct, it starts slow, builds up and then the horror stuff and action happens in the second half. I love the characters, though.
And the last scene I read - boy, that was hard! Especially in the times we live in right now. The horror was the realness of it.


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