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Time for the Count!
Toppler Specific Rules:
🦇 You can use any number associated with the book: number in title, series number, page number, publication month, day, year, or audio length within the guidelines listed below.
🦇 For number in the title or series number, the number needs to be below ten. If the number is 10 or above, (eg. Ten Big Ones) you can not use it. It will, however, still count as having a number in the title, so the bonus points will apply.
🦇 For months and days of the month, the number still needs to be below ten. So a book published in January through September would work, as the months are numbered 1-9. Books from October through December (10-12) don't count for month numbers. Same with days of the month, if it is published on the first through 9th of the month, you can use it.
🦇 Since all of the years published and page numbers will obviously be above single digits, this will be our exception to the below 10 rule. You may use the last number only. So, for a 238 page book published in 2015, you could use the 8 or the 5 only.
🦇 You have to base your numbers off of the edition read. You can not search for a publication date or page number to fit the challenge. This includes year, month, day, page count, etc. The exception to this is that you can also use the “first published” date. This works for publication date only, not page count, different title, etc.
🦇 If you have an audio or Kindle version, use the page count from the first hardcover edition listed. If there is no hardcover, you can use the most popular edition with a page count. If you can not find an edition with a page count, then you will not be able to use that as an option. You may not use both the Kindle page count, if it is listed, and the hardcover page count. You should still use the publication date for the edition you are reading / listening to.
🦇 Audio time may be used, if you listen to the audio edition. You may separate the hours and minutes, but the under ten rule still applies. So, if a book is 9 hours and 32 minutes, you may use the 9. If the book is 12 hours and 6 minutes, you may use the 6. If your book is 11 hours and 16 minutes, sorry, neither of those numbers is less than 10.
🦇 You may not use secondary links, so if you read a book on a 6 hour flight that does not work. It took me four hours to read the book doesn't work either. It has to be something related to the book that doesn't change based on who is reading it.
🦇 Plurals will be accepted, imbedded words are not. This also applies to using smaller numbers imbedded in larger, for example six from sixteen.
🦇 Ordinal numbers, such as first, second, etc may be used. No other variations of numbers will be allowed, including precedence, such as primary, secondary, etc. Ordinal numbers will count as having a number in the title.
🦇 Subtitles do not count.
Scoring:
🧛🏻♂️ Each book is worth 10 points.
🧛🏻♂️ If the book is 400 or more pages +5 points
🧛🏻♂️ If the book has a number in the title +5 points
🧛🏻♂️ When you finish a round (#1-9), you receive a bonus 10 points.
🧛🏻♂️ You can move on to the next round prior to finishing the round you are working on, however you will not receive your bonus points until a round is completed.
Make sure you report all the numbers that your book fits & how to your team captain. Then, the captain can move things around as needed. Team captains, please make sure to keep a reporting area where you list which books fit which tasks and how they were scored, including bonus points, so that we can see where your points come from at the end. You will need to message me with a final tally for your team and a link to the information.
Example of reporting in your team's reporting thread would look something like this:
book read: Seven Up
number of pages: 337
pub date: June 17th 2002
first published: July 19th 2001
series: #7
if audio, add length: n/a
fits numbers: 1, 2, 6, 7
Teams:1
Almeta - captain
Kristie - co-captain
Carol
Valerie
Vicki
Roz
Amanda
2
Esther - captain
Jayme - co-captain
Katrisa
Casceil
Jessica
Peggy
Jenn
3
Saar - captain
Lanelle - co-captain
Cherie
Sarah
Fiona
Kathryn
Janice
4
Lynn - captain
Rusalka - co-captain
Lisa
TrudyAn
Jannene
Tricia
Debra
Margo
added:
5
Annerlee
jaxnsmom
Tasha
Pragya
Beth
I have added co-captains to the teams. Please assist the captains as needed. Happy topplering!
Kristie, what a great Toppler challenge! Gophering like I'm a mad woman!! I know, that's not much of a stretch. Tee hee...
Great toppler Kristie! I'm looking forward to next week!
Great toppler! Looking forward to start.
This is so cool, today is my birthday and this toppler is is the perfect pressie! It will keep me occupied for hours :-DThanks Kristie.
Thanks, ladies! Happy birthday, Margo!!
Happy birthday Margo!Kristie, can two members read the same book?
Exciting. Looking forward to gophering.
thanks for birthday greetings! is this the correct thread for questions? if I have an audiobook that is 4h 43m, what numbers can I use?
Margo, according to the 7th bat in the toppler specific points, you can only use single digit numbers, so just the 4 of the 4 hours.
Peggy wrote: "Kristie, can two members read the same book?"Yes, they can.
Margo wrote: "thanks for birthday greetings! is this the correct thread for questions? if I have an audiobook that is 4h 43m, what numbers can I use?"
Yes, Margo. This is a good place fr questions. As Peggy explained, you can use the 4.
Kristie wrote: "Teams:1
Almeta - captain
Kristie - co-captain
Carol
Valerie
Vicki
Roz
Amanda ..."
TEAM ONE, COME JOIN THE GANG OVER HERE!
Can we use fifth, seventh as numbers in the title?
Jannene wrote: "Can we use fifth, seventh as numbers in the title?"Yes, Jannene. "Ordinal numbers, such as first, second, etc may be used. No other variations of numbers will be allowed, including precedence, such as primary, secondary, etc. Ordinal numbers will count as having a number in the title."
🦇 You can use any number associated with the book: number in title, series number, page number, publication month, day, year, or audio length within the guidelines listed below.Are we restricted to these paramaters? Or may we use others? For example - a book set during World War 1 or 2? What about a book set in 1944?
Jannene wrote: "I apologize for missing that."No worries, Jannene.
Janice wrote: "Are we restricted to these paramaters? Or may we use others? For example - a book set during World War 1 or 2? What about a book set in 1944?"No, you are not restricted to the connections listed. If you can make another connection that doesn't change based on who reads the book, like in your examples, you can use it. The same ruling will apply to time setting in a book as to publishing dates. So, for the year, just the last number can be applied.
Peggy wrote: "Margo, according to the 7th bat in the toppler specific points, you can only use single digit numbers, so just the 4 of the 4 hours."Thanks Peggy and Kristie.
Almeta wrote: "COUNT UP TO NINE"That was a real blast from the past Almeta, thanks for sharing 😁
Margo wrote: "Almeta wrote: "COUNT UP TO NINE"That was a real blast from the past Almeta, thanks for sharing 😁"
Fun wasn't it? You are welcome.
Almeta wrote: "Margo wrote: "Almeta wrote: "COUNT UP TO NINE"That was a real blast from the past Almeta, thanks for sharing 😁"
Fun wasn't it? You are welcome."
Made me smile :-D
Kristie wrote: "Janice wrote: "Are we restricted to these paramaters? Or may we use others? For example - a book set during World War 1 or 2? What about a book set in 1944?"No, you are not restricted to the conn..."
Thanks Kristie. That's how I interpreted the rules but it seemed that everyone's gophering focused only on the examples you gave so I began to doubt myself. I'll do more gophering tonight.
Katrisa wrote: "Would you consider Noughts and Crosses to be a title with a number in it?"No. None of those words fit the guidelines. Also, just a tip, be aware of book length when searching for reads. That book is listed at 136 pages and needs to at least 175 pages to count towards the toppler. It's an easy oversight.
Kristie wrote: "Katrisa wrote: "Would you consider Noughts and Crosses to be a title with a number in it?"No. None of those words fit the guidelines. Also, just a tip, be aware of book length when..."
I need clarification!☻
I know that it doesn't qualify because of pages, but isn't "Nought" (British) the number "zero" (American)?
Kristie, I'm not sure what to do with ebook page numbers. If I check my confirmation email of an ebook I bought, it says on the kobo website that it has 294 pages, but when I open it on my ereader it says 508. Which one should I use?And now that I'm here anyway, another question. In the title The One-in-a-Million Boy, can I count One for the 1-slot? I'm not sure because of the hyphens used. And I assume it's okay for the number in the title bonus points?
Almeta wrote: "I know that it doesn't qualify because of pages, but isn't "Nought" (British) the number "zero" (American)?"I thought we were sticking with the numbers (except ordinals that Kristie specified), so zero is the number.
Nought is something you say (although we would say naught), like zip, or nil, or zilch, but it's not the mathematical number.
I thought it numbers 1 to 9 inclusive? If we are using it as a number could we also use the zero from publication year, e.g. 2010?
I think it's 1-9 for the slots, so you couldn't use the 0 because it doesn't fit a slot. But if you would have 2010 in your title, it would give you the bonus points (you just have to use another number to slot the book into the challenge). And like Kristie said, only regular and ordinal numbers, so anything else that gives a quantity but is not a number, does not count for anything.
Margo wrote: "I thought it numbers 1 to 9 inclusive? If we are using it as a number could we also use the zero from publication year, e.g. 2010?"That's how I read it, but the question was regarding the number in the title.
I don't think you'll get away with it regarding publication years.
Rusalka wrote: "Almeta wrote: "I know that it doesn't qualify because of pages, but isn't "Nought" (British) the number "zero" (American)?"I thought we were sticking with the numbers (except ordinals that Kristie specified), so zero is the number.
Nought is something you say (although we would say naught), like zip, or nil, or zilch, but it's not the mathematical number..."
before I asked the question, I found this on the internet:
"Names for the number 0 in English
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Zero" is the usual name for the number 0 in English. In British English "nought" is also used. In American English "naught" is used occasionally for zero, but (as with British English) "naught" is more often used as an archaic word for nothing. "Nil", "love", and "duck" are used by different sports for scores of zero."
BUT that doesn't mean you should believe everything on the internet.
I am not trying to be a champion for "Nought", just numbers in general. When this book was rejected, I was scared into thinking that I had misunderstood the number-in-the-title-rules.
I don't speak British English and I will not be pursuing books with "Nought" in the title.
So as for me, the argument for "nought" is for "naught".. ***grin***
Rusalka wrote: "Margo wrote: "I thought it numbers 1 to 9 inclusive? If we are using it as a number could we also use the zero from publication year, e.g. 2010?"That's how I read it, but the question was regardi..."
Ah well, worth a try ;-p
lol, looks like this was all cleared up. Just to clarify, naught in America means nothing. So if someone says all for naught, it means all for nothing, but not really "zero." Also, my understanding is that (even though nought can mean zero in British English) noughts and crosses means x's and o's, which is different. The qualification is based on just what Rusalka explained above. It has to actually be the number in the title, not a variant. And Peggy has the scoring correct also. If the number is above nine in the title, you can still get the bonus points, but to fit it into a slot it has to be a number 1-9. Thanks for helping out with that ladies!
Almeta wrote: "So as for me, the argument for "nought" is for "naught".. ***grin*** "
This made me giggle. :)
Peggy wrote: "Kristie, I'm not sure what to do with ebook page numbers. If I check my confirmation email of an ebook I bought, it says on the kobo website that it has 294 pages, but when I open it on my ereader ..."Is there a hardcover edition of the book, Peggy? I would go with that first. If there is no paper edition, I would go with the email. The kobo may be counting page turns versus actual pages.
Note: I'm going to update the original post. I just noticed that in the toppler specific rules I stated to use the hardcover pages for ebooks, but only mentioned audiobooks in the post above that.
Yes, I'll accept the one in one in a million.
Thanks Kristie! I only checked the first set of rules for this and then didn't look any further. I was wondering about that, as it usually is the rule to use hardcover pages for the ebook. This makes a lot of sense and there are hardcovers for both books I had this issue with, so solved! :)
Yay!Except now I am very confused whether Australians spell it "naught" or "nought"...
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This month we will be counting our way through October with Count von Count, hahaha! We will choose books that fit into number slots by linking the book to the number somehow. So if it is the 2nd in a series, has number four in the title, was published on the 8th of the month, etc you can plug that book into the appropriate slot.
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10 bonus points! Start again!
Rules:
1. Books must be started and finished in this time period to qualify.
2. Each book must be at least 175 pages, based on the version you are reading.
3. You may read any format - paperback, hardcover, ebook, or audiobook. For audiobooks or ebooks use the page numbers for the hardcover edition that comes up on the GR page.
4. Graphic novels do not count.
Toppler books can count toward the group theme read and/or the monthly or yearly challenge, if they qualify.
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