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message 52: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments What the heck happened to the Listopia page?

https://www.goodreads.com/list

Side links are missing, although you can find them if you scroll further down. Search function isn't working, either. :(


message 53: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (last edited Aug 23, 2020 07:53PM) (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
Scroll down - they're at the bottom.

Something went haywire with the layout and it's pushing everything into one long column rather than two side by side columns.

Search function is working for me.

Pandemic Goodreads. Takes 7 months to get anything fixed.


message 54: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Haha, let's hope it doesn't take that long.

Search function still isn't working properly. It might bring up a few results, but not all the lists that actually exist.

For example, searching

https://www.goodreads.com/search?utf8...

Doesn't bring up the Shades of Purple list.

The search function on this group is completely out. Has been for 3-4 days, but nothing ever gets fixed on the weekends. Maybe tomorrow, hopefully.


message 55: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Well, this is disturbing. I learned from the feedback group that apparently the Goodreads search index was erased(!). How on earth does that happen?

New results will come up, but nothing from longer ago than 5 days. This is across all groups and Listopia. This is really terrible for a group like ours, which relies on being able to search threads from years past.

It's unclear to me whether they are trying to rebuild it, or if this is permanent.


message 56: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
Can you link to that?


message 57: by Moloch (new)

Moloch | 342 comments I wanted to link to a list some days ago but when I searched for a word in the title it didn't come up. Still doesn't come up in search results now (although maybe - I'm not sure - the search got more results this time, so maybe they are fixing it?), but it exists.

List
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

I searched for the word "nice" and got
https://www.goodreads.com/list/tag?ut...


message 58: by Rosa (new)

Rosa (rosaiglarsh) | 5379 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "Can you link to that?"

https://help.goodreads.com/s/question...


message 59: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments It was also discussed here....

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

I have semi-good news. If you "bump" a Listopia list by voting on it, the search engine will be able to find it again.

I don't think this works for group discussions, though.


message 60: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Moloch wrote: "I wanted to link to a list some days ago but when I searched for a word in the title it didn't come up."

I bumped that list and added the "nice" tag. It should come up now.


message 61: by Moloch (new)

Moloch | 342 comments Yes it does


message 62: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (last edited Aug 26, 2020 01:19AM) (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
Does GR staff normally respond to bug threads in the NewFeedback area? They haven't responded to the bug report threads.

I recall the search index going down in years past and having to be reindexed.

Here's one instance from 2013, for example:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 63: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments I don't think GR staff responds to much, sadly.

Search index is still broken. I hope they are working on a fix. This is pretty inconvenient when it comes to groups in particular.

I'm also annoyed because tags are being systematically deleted from Listopia for no apparent reason. I assume the site is deleting the "ya" and "teen" tags because I keep adding them back to my lists, and they keep disappearing.


message 64: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments I am so pissed off right now! Some rogue Librarian took it upon herself to delete American Dirt from my Anticipated Literary Reads For Readers of Color 2020 list. No note, no explanation. This appears to have been done purely due to personal dislike of the book.

I reported the person in question, but I am getting so sick of censorship and cancel culture. Someone doesn't like an author or their work, they decide they're going to erase all evidence of it. The book was in the top 10 on the list. I voted it back, but all the other people who voted for it had their votes erased due to one person's unjustified moral crusade.


message 65: by Ayshe (new)

Ayshe | 4720 comments She seems to be employee :(


message 66: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments I just checked her profile. How can a Goodreads employee delete a book from a list when erasing books from lists for personal reasons is explicitly against Librarian rules?

This is also weird because American Dirt is in the running for Best Fiction in the Goodreads Choice Awards. It's not like the site as a whole has renounced the book. And it's obviously of interest to readers of color, given that the main characters are POC.


message 67: by Ayshe (last edited Nov 29, 2020 01:48AM) (new)

Ayshe | 4720 comments I assume someone wrote to them with request to have it deleted, I have no idea on the arguments for the decision.


message 68: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Usually if people have a problem with a book on a list, they complain in the comment section. Nothing was ever said about American Dirt. I don't know who could have written to Goodreads management and been successful enough to have a book deleted.

Heck, I've written to Goodreads management and only been ignored for the most part. The only time action was taken was when a rogue Librarian deleted the entire YA Novels of 2019 list because of a personal vendetta. And that was after several months of flagging the same person for improper deletions. They only took action when that person destroyed a list with thousands of votes.


message 69: by Becca (new)

Becca (beccalikesbooks) | 5514 comments I love this thread, Rainbowheart!

A recent list of mine that might need some more work - Anthropomorphic / Personified Flowers and Plants. Obviously there are a bajillion Flower Fairy books that could be added (I just added one, The Complete Book of Flower Fairies, partly because I couldn't be bothered and partly so as not to swamp the list), but I wonder if there are some more obscure ones out there that I've missed?


message 70: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Awesome list. I was all set to mention Rose Petal Place, but it looks like you already got them!


message 71: by Rosa (new)

Rosa (rosaiglarsh) | 5379 comments Becca wrote: "I love this thread, Rainbowheart!

A recent list of mine that might need some more work - Anthropomorphic / Personified Flowers and Plants. Obviously there are a bajillion Flower Fairy books that could be added (I just added one, The Complete Book of Flower Fairies, partly because I couldn't be bothered and partly so as not to swamp the list), but I wonder if there are some more obscure ones out there that I've missed?"


I just added Through the Looking-Glass!


message 72: by Becca (new)

Becca (beccalikesbooks) | 5514 comments Rosa wrote: "I just added Through the Looking-Glass!"

Thank you! That's a great one, can't believe I didn't think of it.


message 76: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments I'm seeing it, too.

I certainly hope it's just a temporary glitch!


message 78: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
Similar problem in Trivia. If you've created more than 100 pages of trivia questions, (or answered more than 100 pages worth), you can't see beyond that. This is an absolute disaster, since now I can't see most of my questions. 10 questions to a page means I can only see 1,000 of my questions. I've created 25,204.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if this is something permanent. A few years ago they stopped allowing you to view all the shelvings of a book. Now for many books you can only view reviews, and ratings, but not shelvings which have been neither reviewed nor rated.

Occasionally there is some kind of workaround, e.g. in the URL replace "100" with some higher number, but that isn't working in this case.

This is horrifying.


message 79: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (last edited Feb 19, 2021 02:07PM) (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
This gives you an idea of how GR runs things:

https://help.goodreads.com/s/question...


message 80: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
You can use this page to contact GR and ask for an explanation. They will email you a response (at least, they say they will).

https://www.goodreads.com/about/conta...


message 81: by Ayshe (new)

Ayshe | 4720 comments I think I've seen such limitation on settings (for example: https://www.goodreads.com/places/850-...) previously. In the deceased Feedback group they said shelvings view limitation was to improve performance or something. I am 'asked' to give feedback on the expected new book pages layout (😕😱) so I guess the improvements continue.


message 82: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments New family lists!

Fathers

Mothers

Boyfriends and Girlfriends

Many older family lists can be found under the kin tag.


message 83: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Are there lists with over 100 pages?

It's worrying that they are doing this, although I mostly use tags and the search feature to find lists. I don't usually browse from the front page. But if I wanted to, it's annoying to know that I couldn't.


message 84: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
Listopia is like the ugly stepsister on GR. Well, technically there are many of these - parts that management just doesn't care about. I realized this when they stopped having listopia votes go into your feed, several years ago. It used to be that whenever you voted on a list, it would go into your feed and your friends and followers would see it and sometimes be inspired to vote too. So basically GR is not interested in having anyone know about listopias. No publicity, no buzz.


message 85: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments I remember and miss that! Listopia is really one of the only features on GR that I use, aside from this group.


message 86: by Bargle (new)

Bargle | 1752 comments Rainbowheart wrote: "Are there lists with over 100 pages?"

I don't know about lists, but there's at least 1 author with this. It's Unknown. For the last 3-4 years I've been wading through the large number of books that lost their data in the big software change-over about 10 years ago. They had been organized by numbered author. Like "Unknown Author 325" for example. After a while I was suffering from a bit of burnout, so I took a break for a few months. When I came back to start up again, I found that all the numbered Unknown Authors had been dumped into the single Unknown listing. After a bit of mental teeth grinding, I started back in on them. I discovered that there was now a huge number of books under this author. The listing had a 100 pages and I suspect there were many, many more. I figured out I could go the 2nd or higher page and change the 'per page' number to 999. Recently that no longer works. I can't load more than 100 no matter what. That means that even if I get to page 100 of the current list there are still 1,000s more I can't access. Hmmph!


message 87: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments I also noticed that you can only see 100 pages of comments and 100 pages of likes from your profile.

Has anyone reported this to GR management? I wonder if it's a bug or a feature.


message 88: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
It's probably a feature, but it's unacceptable.

The GR list of characters (meaning, fictional characters added to book metadata) is now so large that 100 pages of it only gets you to "Aleksey", or halfway through "A."

Even though they're doing it intentionally, people need to protest. If no one says anything, they assume no one cares.


message 89: by Bargle (new)

Bargle | 1752 comments I was going to, but I don't know where to put it. The old group where we could post about site changes no longer exists.
Also, when I try to give feedback on the new Beta page all it does is link to my e-mail account.


message 90: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments I tried to give feedback about that awful beta page too, but it wouldn't let me.

And the notice about it keeps popping up on every single book page. Like please don't remind me you're going to destroy the perfectly good page format, thanks.


message 91: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
https://www.goodreads.com/about/conta...

This is the "contact us" page. I bookmarked it because I thought they might try to make it hard to find.

You can report a bug, make a suggestion, or anything else.


message 92: by Bargle (new)

Bargle | 1752 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/about/conta...

This is the "contact us" page. I bookmarked it because I thought they might try to make it hard to find.

You can report a bug, ..."


OK, I've sent a message about the limited page load amount. I also stumbled into a page on the problems with the Beta page feedback. Link below.
https://help.goodreads.com/s/global-s...


message 94: by ~☆~Autumn (new)

~☆~Autumn  | 2 comments Rainbowheart wrote: "Any fellow Listopia addicts here?

Thought this might be a good place for us to share and recommend lists to each other. I may be entirely too obsessed with Listopia, lol."


Yes, as you know. I was just looking at a few.


message 95: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Welcome, welcome!

I already know you're a fellow Listopia fan. :)


message 96: by ~☆~Autumn (new)

~☆~Autumn  | 2 comments Rainbowheart wrote: "Welcome, welcome!

I already know you're a fellow Listopia fan. :)"


Thanks for sending me invites! ;-)


message 97: by SamSpayedPI (new)

SamSpayedPI | 2305 comments I created a new list for Ageist Dystopian Fiction, since the world seemed to be crying out for one.


message 98: by Bargle (new)

Bargle | 1752 comments Bargle wrote: "OK, I've sent a message about the limited page load amount."

They've fixed it for the 'Unknown' author listing. Y'all might want to check the other lists that were too short.


message 99: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Still the same issue with comments I've made and and items I've liked.

Also Listopia tags....

https://www.goodreads.com/list/tag/yo...


message 100: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
It hasn't been fixed for the pages of trivia I've written.

Or for characters, or for places.


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