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Scott wrote: "Bill wrote: "Looks like I will have to start a ton of series in December."Any excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
You know it. Need to do a few to finish other challenges this year anyways.
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Rereads count, right? I want to do the Malazan read, and I want those to count.
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small question: Do books from Overflowing Bookshelf Chalenge count as extra points?
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Yes but you can only count points from one challenge even if it fills multiple. So you cannot do points from overflowing, cover, series cleanup........all at once. One challenge per book.
Is there a challenge for people with a bunch of books on their To-Read list? Not necessarily incomplete series, just books marked as to-read and never actually read.
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Shame is about catching up on things you've already started... the Overflowing Bookshelf challenge says TBR, but mostly means books you own physically or in ebook/audio... but the challenges have always been about the spirit of the challenge... and one part mentions sorting your TBR shelf on Goodreads (Bookend challenge)... so I think one of those will have you covered...
Iain wrote: "Arkadeb wrote: "Is there a challenge for people with a bunch of books on their To-Read list? Not necessarily incomplete series, just books marked as to-read and never actually read."Shame is abou..."
Thanks, I will try to join the Overflowing Challenge and try to integrate that into the Team Reading framework.
Thanks Scott. Double credit shouldn't be a problem. :) I asked because for some of the series I am carrying over to 2018 like Tiger and Del, Drenai Saga or Temeraire, I don't own all the books but get some from the library. For those series I'll use the Unfinished Series Challenge in that case. (I should get that one up to date also!)
Other series like Outlander, Sword of Truth or Alliance of Light, I am planning to start only in 2018 so I am not sure if they could be included in unfinished series challenge. For those I own the books though.
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Oh! Ok. I'll do that then. Thanks Iain.
I just found this thread and it sounds amazing. Especially because I'm an introvert and this concept would fit me perfectly because I would be able to read on my own but also compete within a team. Is there any possibility to join this challenge?
I have a question: I plan to read some of the books in the german translation. It's common that some of the books get splitted in two books in the translation process. For example the Song of Ice and Fire Series contain 10 instead of 5 Books over here... Am I allowed to add Bonus Points for both Books when I join the Buddy Read of the Original?
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@Anni: I would think so Anni... for simplification, you can probably just get the highest English pagecount for the single volume book by clicking Other Editions on the Goodreads book page... I think we're all going to be using the Mass Market Paperback english pagecounts anyway, since they have the smallest pages and highest pagecounts in US...
For example, with Way of Kings the Hardcover is 1007 pages, and the Mass Market Paperback is 1258
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Ok, but the pagecount in german is higher most of the time, that's one of the reasons the books got split (and the fact that you could make more money with more books...). I think it is due to german being a bit awkward sometimes and it needs more words to say the exact same thing. I don't want to make a scene, but shouldn't I get the pagecount I actually read? For example 'The Well of Ascension', my book has 989 pages while the English Mass Market Edition has 763 pages. I hope that doesn't make everything too complicated, I just want to make sure I am doing it right when the challenge start next year. :) Thanks!
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Goodreads confirms your number, by the way... so it's completely acceptable I think... it says:
Krieger des Feuers (Mistborn, #2)
Published January 4th 2010 by Heyne
Paperback, 988 pages
on that Other Editions page I was talking about... I think the only rule was that us English readers couldn't exploit German pagecounts if we're not reading the German books (or whatever language happens to be longest)
Iain wrote: "I hope my team has some Germans on it :PGoodreads confirms your number, by the way... so it's completely acceptable I think... it says:
Krieger des Feuers (Mistborn, #2)
Published January 4th 20..."
Hands off Anni, she's on my team! XD
I think that sounds fair and reasonable to me Iain. Anyone actually reading a German or any other language edition should be able to use that page count if it's longer.
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Um, I am sorry Scott, I don't understand... Does it mean, I couldn't use my actual pagecount? And Iain, there's still a month left for you to learn German and read these books for your team ;)
Ok so this is a topic I've seen discussed before on GR, but not in this thread - should audiobooks count the same as actually reading the book?On the one hand, I know a lot of people enjoy listening due to time constraints and the lower cost of stuff like Kindle Unlimited/sales. But on the other hand, it's far pretty easy to have an audio book just running in the background while you are doing other things whereas actually sitting down and 'reading' the book involves a good deal more effort. Not that I'd suggest that idling crappy books on audio to rack up points would be a thing, but the min-max gamer in me says that that's the way to go :p
Now obviously this is taking a really negative look at things and ignoring the fact that we're just doing this for fun. And I personally have no problem with audio books counting fully, just to be clear. I just saw a window to bring up the discussion on audio books here where there's a new point of relevance!
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On the one hand, I know a lot of people enjoy listen..."
Audiobooks count for the same amount as regular books. This is part of the reason we have the rule that you can choose the highest page count - audiobooks are often listed with ~15-30 pages.
Even if people read audiobooks to rack up points, like with the challenges, everyone is open to doing it.
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On the one hand, I know a lot of people..."
That's because audiobook "pages" are actually measuring hours... an audiobook generally narrates at a page every 2 minutes... so 15hrs = 450 pages... 30hrs = 900 pages... Oathbringer = 55hrs/pages...
@Sean: Audiobooks have their pros and cons... Audiobooks let people read more each day, but they take longer than reading yourself usually... with a book you can skim excessive descriptions, and just read faster in general, managing 45-60 pages per hour instead, depending on the person...
The only way I feel audiobooks count as cheating is this one person I know in another group who was somehow reading 1 book and listening to another at the same time and comprehending both... I can't imagine trying that...
If audiobooks didn't count, I would probably have to bow out of the competition, or reapply with new reading numbers for fair teams... because in the last 3 years, I've gone from 66 of 288 books being audio in 2015, to 116 of 200 books last year, to 116 of 160 and counting this year...
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Iain wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Seán wrote: "Ok so this is a topic I've seen discussed before on GR, but not in this thread - should audiobooks count the same as actually reading the book?On the one hand, I know a..."
No Audiobooks would make my commute hopelessly boring. Also I tried reading one book and listening to another and it doesn't work at all. I can't even browse and listen at the same time. I can however clean, file and categorise.
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Can someone confirm if Audible versions are acceptable?
N. wrote: "Can someone confirm if Audible versions are acceptable?"I think the rules are pretty clear, check the first post (which has been updated with previous decisions): All genres will be accepted for this competition in physical, digital, and audio format.
Too late to join this challenge? I’m new to the group and don’t have the comments yet either.
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Scott wrote: "Sean I know your disdain for audio however the vast majority of our membership does anywhere from 50-100% audio. Like it or not it's the medium of choice and this challenge is about participation a..."I'm trying to improve my position from 'disdain' :) Thanks for the responses guys - I'm in no way trying to label audio books as 'cheating' for this, just wanted to get peoples' thoughts on it really. Anything that gets people reading and experiencing more is only a good thing. Sorry if I come across as really negative whenever that topic's brought up - I'll try and improve myself in that regard!
I'm terrible for reading myself - I can barely focus if there's much background noise at all. The commute usually consists of wearing noise-cancelling earphones and hoping the bus is quiet. I've tried audio-books for it, but I just haven't found one that I've enjoyed so far. The search will continue!
Seán wrote: "Scott wrote: "Sean I know your disdain for audio however the vast majority of our membership does anywhere from 50-100% audio. Like it or not it's the medium of choice and this challenge is about p..."As an audio enthusiast, I can give you my top 2 reasons for listening rather than reading.
1. I'm a wife. There is a very little time in a day to truly connect with my husband. I refuse to read a book on our mutual down time which is, of course, the ONLY downtime. I try to prioritize my sex life. Before I discovered audio I was literally too engrossed in a book from 10 PM - 12 AM to pay any attention to him. If I had more time in a day to fit in reading elsewhere this wouldn't be a problem, but I'm betting 95% of us read before bed. Basically, I chose my marriage over a book.
2. I value a clean home and healthy eating. It's very time consuming to achieve both. It takes hours EVERY day to get it all done which (after working full-time) doesn't give a lot of time to read. Listening while cooking, cleaning, etc. has been a God send.
These are just my personal reasons. There are more practical ones (like not having the space for books), but these reasons really changed my life.
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Doing home chores and commuting are so much better with audio.
Disdain was probably too strong Sean but speaking as a beer/wine/coffee snob I think it's fair to say your tone reflects the one I have when I reference Dunkin Dishwater, Sudsweiser or White Zinfinhell. :)
Clementine wrote: "Seán wrote: "Scott wrote: "Sean I know your disdain for audio however the vast majority of our membership does anywhere from 50-100% audio. Like it or not it's the medium of choice and this challen..."I'm the same in many ways. I adore reading, but my family is my priority, and if I read physical books as much as I listen to audio I would probably never be able to see my wife haha. Audiobooks for me have been huge in helping make the most of what would otherwise be empty thinking time (my lengthy commute, chores, gym, cooking, ect). I do most of the cooking in our house, because my wife works 1-9. Audiobooks are the way to go when you're in that kind of season of life.
Are we only counting books *started* in 2018? As in, I can't count a particularly LARGE book that I was halfway through when 2017 ended, and will have finished in 2018? Asking for a friend ;].
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On the one hand, I know a..."
I'm great at multitasking, and reading instructions or signs or other short isolated things while listening to a book is doable. But listening to a book and reading another book.... at the same time?! How?
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It has now been amended to "The book will not be eligible for bonus points if you start more than 1 week before the read, and you must start no later then 2 weeks beyond the scheduled start date."
The point is to participate and have fun, but we don't want people bending the rules and commenting for points when the book was read weeks in advance or after the fact. Please use the honor system. If you are honestly reading the book with the group (at the same time) and participating, you should get the points.
Niki Hawkes wrote: "I slightly amended the Buddy Read Bonus Points rule of timely participation. I had it as "The book will not be eligible for bonus points if you start more than 3 days before the read, and you must ..."Sounds good ^_^. I'm sure we'll all be in the same boat with one or two books that we're halfway through, so it'll even out I'm sure.
And yes that makes sense. I'll do my best to try to be timely ;].
Glad you asked the question, Liam. I'll be spending most of January finishing Oathbringer which won't count....I should finish my monster sized audio though (The White Tower) so I can get a clean slate on that reading path.
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This is nice for my overbooked self... I actually scheduled Republic of Thieves for February 14th instead of 15th to better take advantage of the 3 day rule before Deadhouse Landing and Spectacle... on the 15th/16th...
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I've been toying with the idea of expanding it for a few weeks now. A lot of us are so overbooked, the last thing I'd want is challenge burnout in the first month because everyone's trying to stick to the 3 day rule. I know I'm going to miss at least one of them by more than that lol.
I’m only participating in one challenge and that’s my series one... mostly because I’m participating in the Reddit bingo challenge and in a Classics bingo challenge. Now my question is about the series one. If I read a book that’s a first in a series in 2018 it obviously won’t count in completing series but then the 2nd book does. So basically do 2nd books in newly started series count for that challenge or only books from series that are already ongoing from 2017 on?
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I figure, just use book 1 in series to complete other challenges as much as possible... like Scott's new A-Z challenge...
And Scott did shoot himself in the foot killing all his Incompletes this year...