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SUMMER CHALLENGE 2017
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25.6 - Lavender's Task: Derivative Work
AcceptedHag-Seed
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The Tempest
The Eyre Affair
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Jane Eyre
The Angel of the Opera
Dreaming Spies
The Murder of Mary Russell
Death Cloud
Two Hundred and Twenty-One Baker Streets: An Anthology of Holmesian Tales Across Time and Space
The Holmes-Dracula File
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The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
A Study in Scarlet
The Return of Sherlock Holmes
Rhett Butler's People
Scarlett
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Gone with the Wind
Sense & Sensibility
Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters
Sense and Sensibility: A Latter-Day Tale
The Third Sister: A Continuation of Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility
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Sense and Sensibility
Exit, Pursued by a Bear
The Gap of Time
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The Winter's Tale
March
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Little Women
Something Rotten
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are DeadOphelia
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Hamlet
Eligible: A Modern Retelling of Pride and Prejudice
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
Death Comes to Pemberley
Longbourn
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Pride and Prejudice
Why Read Moby-Dick?
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Moby-Dick or, The Whale
The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger Born
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The Gunslinger
Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West
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The Wonderful Wizard of Oz
Emma
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Emma
The Importance of Being Alice
Heartless
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Alice in Wonderland & Through the Looking Glass
Northanger Abbey
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Northanger Abbey
The Dracula Tape
The Holmes-Dracula File
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Dracula
Dodger
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Oliver Twist
Note: Make sure any children's books meet SRC requirements.
What a fun task! I've been trying to fit The Tempest and Hag-Seed into my reading schedule, and here's my chance!
Hag-Seed is terrific, too -- you are in for a treat!Now I have to decide between Shylock Is My Name and Vinegar Girl.
Would reading a Sherlock Holmes work? There are a few newer ones and then reading one of the original work? For example The Angel of the Opera and then read The Return of Sherlock Holmes
Jayme - I was thinking similar - a Sherlock Holmes and then one of the Mary Russell books which are notionally a sequal
Would Scarlett and Gone with the Wind work? (Although I do like the Sherlock Holmes idea and would probably switch to that if you approve posts 10 & 11)
Dee wrote: "Jayme - I was thinking similar - a Sherlock Holmes and then one of the Mary Russell books which are notionally a sequal"That would work too. I just know there are quite a few newer Sherlock mysteries out there.
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I read those in the winter - I thought it would be good to read Tempest before Hag-Seed, since it's been a long time. And I really liked it better that way, I think - I appreciated both more.
I am thinking along the Jane Austen line. I had planned Sense and Sensibility for one of my 30.3 books. However...As I am not really comfortable with what a derivative work would be, would any of these work? Sense and Sensibility: A Latter-Day Tale, Sense & Sensibility, The Third Sister: A Continuation of Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility
Would The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time and a Sherlock Holmes novel work? I love this task.
Please let me know if these options work: Book 1: The Gap of Time
Book 2: The Winter's Tale
Book 1: Rhett Butler's People or Scarlett
Book 2: Gone with the Wind
Book 1: March
Book 2: Little Women
Book 1: Dreaming Spies or The Murder of Mary Russell
Book 2: A Study in Scarlet
Thank you.
Gayla wrote: "Hag-Seed is terrific, too -- you are in for a treat!Now I have to decide between Shylock Is My Name and Vinegar Girl."
I enjoyed Vinegar Girl! It coped well with the difficult bits of 'Shrew - the misogyny & domestic violence bits.
Have you seen there's a reworking of Othello out now too (int he same Hogarth series): New Boy
Is there a page minimum? I wanted to read Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead and Hamlet, but it does not reach 500 pages.
Pia wrote: "Will these books work?
Thanks!"
Yes, those work!
Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "Would reading a Sherlock Holmes work? There are a few newer ones and then reading one of the original work? For example The Angel of the Opera and then read [book:The Return of Sherlo..."That would work. It looks like a "what if" rather than a real sequel.
Bridgit wrote: "Is there a page minimum? I wanted to read Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead and Hamlet, but it does not reach 500 pages."Not all tasks have a page minimum - it will be stated up front
Dee wrote: "Jayme - I was thinking similar - a Sherlock Holmes and then one of the Mary Russell books which are notionally a sequal"Yes, that's good, too. Another what if type of thing.
Julia wrote: "Would Scarlett and Gone with the Wind work? (Although I do like the Sherlock Holmes idea and would probably switch to that if you approve posts 10 & 11)"
Yes, that's good.
Chris wrote: "I wanted to do Tempest/Hag-Seed too!"Awesome choice!
Bea wrote: "I am thinking along the Jane Austen line. I had planned Sense and Sensibility for one of my 30.3 books. However...As I am not really comfortable with what a derivative work would be,..."
All of those work. Re-tellings, continuations, re-imaginings are all good.
frugalitymom wrote: "Would The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time and a Sherlock Holmes novel work? I love this task."I haven't read this one yet, but from the description it looks like the main character admires Sherlock Holmes, but it doesn't seem to be an actual retelling of a Sherlock story (or a continuation/satire, etc). Can anyone who has already read it confirm?
Kim wrote: "Please let me know if these options work: Book 1: The Gap of Time
Book 2: The Winter's Tale
Book 1: Rhett Butler's People or Scarlett
Boo..."
Yes, All of those are great options!
Catherine wrote: "Gayla wrote: "Hag-Seed is terrific, too -- you are in for a treat!Now I have to decide between Shylock Is My Name and Vinegar Girl."
I enjoyed Vinegar Girl! It co..."
I will have to look for that! I've enjoyed the Shakespeare retellings that I have read so far.
Bridgit wrote: "Is there a page minimum? I wanted to read Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead and Hamlet, but it does not reach 500 pages."No page limit for this task
Shanna_redwind wrote: "If anyone wants to do Oz, there's a whole list of Oz booksBooks About Oz"
Thanks for the link!
Lavender wrote: "frugalitymom wrote: "Would The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time and a Sherlock Holmes novel work? I love this task."I haven't read this one yet, but from the description it looks like the main character admires Sherlock Holmes, but it doesn't seem to be an actual retelling of a Sherlock story (or a continuation/satire, etc). Can anyone who has already read it confirm? ..."
Lavender ... your take on this is correct. It is NOT a retelling of a Sherlock story.
Book Concierge wrote: "Lavender wrote: "frugalitymom wrote: "Would The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time and a Sherlock Holmes novel work? I love this task."I haven't read this one yet, but from..."
Thanks for the clarification.
Hello!! You mention different Gregory Maguire and L Frank Baum books in your task description, but I just want to confirm that Wicked and The Wizard of Oz work together?
Stephanie wrote: "Hello!! You mention different Gregory Maguire and L Frank Baum books in your task description, but I just want to confirm that Wicked and The Wizard of Oz work together?"Yes, I just added it to the accepted list above, too.
Lavender wrote: "Book Concierge wrote: "Lavender wrote: "frugalitymom wrote: "Would The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time and a Sherlock Holmes novel work? I love this task."I haven't read..."
Thank you
frugalitymom wrote: "Would this work? Emma by Alexander McCall Smith
Emma by Jane Austen"
Looks like a retelling, so yes, that works.
Since retellings work, am I able to read Eligible: A Modern Retelling of Pride and Prejudice and Pride and Prejudice? I can't believe I've never read P&P. I need to take care of that omission this summer.
Brooke wrote: "Since retellings work, am I able to read Eligible: A Modern Retelling of Pride and Prejudice and Pride and Prejudice? I can't believe I've never read P&P. I need to take..."Yes, this works. I only read Pride and Prejudice recently, too.
Lavender wrote: "frugalitymom wrote: "Would this work? Emma by Alexander McCall Smith
Emma by Jane Austen"
Looks like a retelling, so yes, that works."
Thank you
Exit, Pursued by a Bearand
The Winter's Tale
the first is a retelling (I think)
The title is "Exit, Pursued by a Bear", which is a famous Shakespearean stage direction in The Winter's Tale.
Would these two work?Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
The Importance of Being Alice
Thanks.
Out of curiosity, could the derivative book be one which has the author of the original book as a character? There seem to be a few series like that, for example:Josephine Tey: https://www.goodreads.com/series/5226...
Jane Austen: https://www.goodreads.com/series/4095...
Failing that, back on the Sherlock Holmes theme, would Two Hundred and Twenty-One Baker Streets: An Anthology of Holmesian Tales Across Time and Space be far enough away from a straight sequel to work as a derivative?
I'm also curious if The Castle of Otranto, Horace Walpole or Mysteries of Udolpho, Ann Radcliffe would work against Northanger Abbey, Jane Austen, as the Austen book is generally considered a parody of the Gothic Fiction genre, of which the other two were major examples.
And for fans of retellings, the combination of:
Northanger Abbey, Jane Austen
Northanger Abbey, Val McDermid
isn't a bad one. They're very different books, albeit based around the same basic plot.
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Hamlet (other topics)The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time (other topics)
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Jane Austen (other topics)Herman Melville (other topics)
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A few years ago I decided that I should read Pride and Prejudice and Zombies because it looked silly. I like doing things in order, so I figured I should read the original Jane Austen novel first. (I've read a few Jane Austen books since then, but still haven't gotten around to the zombie book.)
For this challenge, read 2 books.
Books with the main page genres of Graphic Novels/Manga/Comics are allowed for this task as long as they meet SRC requirements.
Book 1: Read a derivative work.
It can be a reworking, satire, tribute, adaptation, non-fiction, analysis, fan fiction, or an imagined continuation by a different author.
It should NOT be an "official" sequel, though.
Book 2: Read the book that the first book was derived from.
Examples:
Book 1: Pride and Prejudice and Zombies by Seth Grahame-Smith
Book 2: Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
Book 1: Why Read Moby-Dick? by Nathaniel Philbrick
Book 2: Moby-Dick or, The Whale by Herman Melville
Book 1: The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger Born Graphic Novel by Peter David
Book 2: The Gunslinger by Stephen King.
REQUIRED: Explain the relation between the books if it's not obvious in the goodreads description.
Some potential examples: Popular Derivative Fiction Books
Note: Some of the books in the list above are part of a series. Reading a book that is part of a series is fine, but the 2 books should not be from the same set. You could read
Son of a Witch by Gregory Maguirewith The Emerald City of Oz by L. Frank Baum but not Son of a Witch and Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West by Gregory Maguire.