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message 101: by Em (new)

Em I think Chaol would feel inferior to Rowan at first because he has a huge inferiority complex to overcome due to his parents being assholes to him his whole life. But once they get to know each other for real things might change for the better :)

Rowan might be territorial, but his thing with Celaena is completely platonic, at least for now. I didn't get the vibes that he is interested in her romantically for him to be super jealous or anything like that.


message 102: by Laura (last edited Oct 13, 2014 07:18PM) (new)

Laura | 102 comments Lolol yea he totally freaked out about her comment on the "kitty-cat friend".
I honestly do think there's SOMETHING there & not just for wishful thinking.

I went back and re-read their scenes together to see if it really was just me and my wishful thinking. And it just seemed like thee were A LOT of small little hints about them being interested in one another that were dropped around pretty often. It seems kinda pointless for those little hints to be there for absolutely no reason at all so..
Pretty sure something will come of it.


message 103: by Kaina (last edited Oct 13, 2014 07:22PM) (new)

Kaina (kainal) | 30 comments The thing I most adore about these books is that at this point literally ANYTHING could happen. This story could go in countless directions, same goes for the love plot. Who Aelin ends up with is completely up in the air in the moment. I believe that when she goes back she'll have to work with Chaol they'll rekindle for a night and both come to the realization that they're not right for each other (at the end of HOF I got the impression that they were both on track for closure) there's this line that Chaol said: "he knew eventually it would stop hurting" something like that. Foreshadowing perhaps? And although I ship the Rowan ship SO HARD for the moment it appears that its utterly platonic, if something were to happen there would have been something hinted in their scenes together, some electricity, rather than Celeana saying that there was nothing romantic AT ALL about them sharing a bed. And wouldn't it be so refreshing to have such a intimate relationship between two characters of the opposite gender without it being romantic?

As for Aedion, whom I love, thats a wild card. Yes, they only saw each other as brother and sister but keep in mind this was TEN years ago this could easily change (UGH CANNOT WAIT FOR THAT SCENE WHEN CELEANA RESCUES HIM AND THEY'RE REUNITED AND THEY'RE BOTH SHOCKED FOR A MOMENT BEFORE THEY GASP EACH OTHERS NAMES OUT) Although the constant mention that they look EXACTLY alike and could be twins gives me an incesty vibe, again perhaps its on purpose.

As for Dorian, I don't particularly ship it but the parallels bruh. The whole Elena, who was Fae and a badass warrior, and that dude (the king) being together and falling in love in the battlefield and all that. Also, it can't be a coincendence that Elena appears to Aelin and the king to Dorian. And honestly what better way to form an alliance, after the destruction that is sure to come and they're both the heirs to their own kingdoms, than through marriage? Furthermore, again the whole human prince falling in love with the Fae girl is mentioned in the Mab plot line. Foreshadowing? Coincidence?

My brain hurts.


message 104: by Laura (new)

Laura | 102 comments Hahaha good points ^^^


message 105: by Anna (new)

Anna | 22 comments My brain hurts for all of us. There are just too many options!

TRUE. I def agree that this series could go in so many different directions, and i love that about HoF!!!!

Im am TRULY hoping that Aelin is saying its platonic with Rowan because (like u said) i think Maas wants to ACTUALLY build a solid friendship before any love\relationship starts, because that is the key to a goooood romance. and secretly Celaena's kinda sorta denying her feelings for Rowan.... :))))) ;) . Because didnt she mention that their relationship was ONLY friendly, a little too often? Hint. *cough* ;)

I certainly felt the sparks and it was fiery

@Darlin' #TeamStrength is definitely racking in the followers
#RowlinKeepRowlin'


message 106: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments Yeah! The way this books take it,'s exactly the reazon why i can't sleep! I ship so seriously rowin! Anyway i think this.
1. I prefer that celeana could see in aedion a protective brother! The kind of brother that will kick the ass off whoever dare to hurt you.
2. Dorian, i think that they are good friends and may be she see in dorian a little guy who she needs to take care of!
3. Chaol is good but if she want to be with her, please... He have to grow and be more secure about his feelings

Finally... May be after some books (i hope in the next one) rowin ends romantically together


message 107: by Olivia (new)

Olivia M (Trincess) | 44 comments At first I had my heart set on chaol and celaena getting back together, but now I'm totally shipping her and Rowan!!!!!! They would be absolutely perfect!! :)


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Olivia wrote: "At first I had my heart set on chaol and celaena getting back together, but now I'm totally shipping her and Rowan!!!!!! They would be absolutely perfect!! :)"

Ditto. C&C was getting ridiculous IMO


message 109: by Olivia (new)

Olivia M (Trincess) | 44 comments I hate to change the subject but is there a group talking about Dorian and sorsha? Because I cried my eyes out near the end about her and would LOVE a discussion on that


message 110: by Sabrine (new)

Sabrine | 58 comments Rowaaaaaann. You muscled fae warrior you. How dare you remove me so forcibly from my Chaolaena ship? I was perfectly content then you came along with your badassery, smart mouth and hidden gentleness that I could no longer keep my feelings at bay. Aelin may be in denial, but she knows. SHE KNOWS.

You can be cryptic with Aelin all you like, but I saw you preen in front of her that day in the tree. Pretty convenient time to show off your weapons strapped to your bronze muscled body, water running down your… Umm. I’m sorry what? Oh stop puffing your feathers. Aelin is not like the rest of us? Buddy, you’ve got a lot to learn.

Don’t turn away from me now. You know you like playing with fire. She keeps you on your toes like no other. Wild, unpredictable, fierce. What else can be perfect for the snowstorm that you are? Like calls to like my friend.

Before carranam, before the blood oath, you felt the bond that had developed between you two. It’s for this reason that you’ll jump straight into the flames for her again and again. No matter how much it hurts, you’ll be there with a cooling touch. Your blood, your magic, your strength, you’ll give it all. What about you? What do you want? You were selfish once. Don’t be afraid to be so again. In the words of a certain fae warrior, ‘don’t ask for it; don’t wish for it. Take it.’ TAKE HER. Those boys across the sea got nothing on you.

With your scent of pine and snow resembling a land in the far north, your silver hair and green eyes a reflection of a kingdom waiting to be restored. You are a gentle reminder of a home waiting to be. A home for Aelin.

Time to rise from prince to King. See a world reborn for fae and demi-fae alike. Let your frozen heart be thawed and give yourself a second chance.

Because I claim you Rowlin. To whatever end <3
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message 111: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments Sabrine... Just... Perfect!!!! I think the same!!!! Exactly the same!!!

Also on sarah's pinterest i asked if there's a posibility that rowan had been confused about lyria being his mate... It is said that you just can't stomache the idea of hurting your mate, and leaving is a way of emotional wound right????
Don't know... Just shipping rowin to whatever end!!!!

Pd: I'm mexican, and here, we use to say "mas vale pedir perdon, que permiso" what is trasleted like "don't ask for it, take it" Exactly... Pretty exactly like you said!!!!


message 112: by Sabrine (new)

Sabrine | 58 comments Noris wrote: "Sabrine... Just... Perfect!!!! I think the same!!!! Exactly the same!!!

Also on sarah's pinterest i asked if there's a posibility that rowan had been confused about lyria being his mate... It i..."


You are filling me with all kinds of smiles chica. Por favor, dime más. Necesito una pareja para discutir este serie jajaja.

For what you asked Sarah, I think knowing how old Rowan is, he would understand who and what a mate is. I wondered the same thing you did, but then he mentioned being arrogant and misguided. He was so full of himself that he couldn't even scent that his wife was pregnant. A really tragic story which is why I hope he allows himself a second chance at love. I don't think Aelin can be his "mate," but still something very close to it. Hopefully Sarah reveals more details of what it is like to have a mate.

And thank you for that quote! I'm currently in Panama so I'll see if the same thing is said here =D


message 113: by Delenn (new)

Delenn Kennedy | 9 comments I am so late to this discussion.. But I SO SHIP ROWLIN!! I mean they are nearly perfect for each other. I also agree with mostly everything in this discussion. But I must add this. Do you guys tenner Choal and Rowans reactions to Celeanas scars? Ha well I do! for the most part... I'm not to sure about Choals reaction, it's been a while since I read the books, but he really didn't have one I remember correctly. Sure he was a bit angry and sad about it, but Rowan got him beat! Rowan was LIVID. He acted like he wanted to kill the people who did that to her the first chance he got. That got to me. I almost cried at that point. Anyone who gets that angry at something like that cares deeply for you and you can't deny it.


message 114: by Em (new)

Em Delenn wrote: "I am so late to this discussion.. But I SO SHIP ROWLIN!! I mean they are nearly perfect for each other. I also agree with mostly everything in this discussion. But I must add this. Do you guys tenn..."

Chaol kissed every scar that night they made love and vowed to take Endovier down.


message 115: by Delenn (new)

Delenn Kennedy | 9 comments @Em Sorry! I said I haven't read them in a while! Personally I love Rowans reaction better. Apologies!


message 116: by Kaina (new)

Kaina (kainal) | 30 comments Sabrine wrote: "Rowaaaaaann. You muscled fae warrior you. How dare you remove me so forcibly from my Chaolaena ship? I was perfectly content then you came along with your badassery, smart mouth and hidden gentlene..."

*sobbing in the corner because that was so perfect* UGH I NEED BOOK FOUR


message 117: by Em (new)

Em @Delenn no need to apologize haha


message 118: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments Jajaja, anyway, Sarah will reveal more details about the carranam, the whole male thing and more! Couse, remember. Ok, Rowan has already met his mate. But... Aelin don't (sorry but I'm not sure that Chaol is her mate). So what???? Who is, then???? May be she doesn't have it... May be she does... May be, it was sam??? There're many things that need to be explained.
May be.... (I really hope this) the carranam is a bond further stronger than a mate, may be it implicates that a carranam could be whathever you wish... A lover, a brother, a bff....


message 119: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments Ohhh and yeah!!! I have to say it!!! Rowan has just lost his son... So... Please!!!! Rowin babys!!!!


message 120: by Olivia (new)

Olivia M (Trincess) | 44 comments Oooooo I like that idea


message 121: by Sabrine (new)

Sabrine | 58 comments Kaina wrote: "Sabrine wrote: "Rowaaaaaann. You muscled fae warrior you. How dare you remove me so forcibly from my Chaolaena ship? I was perfectly content then you came along with your badassery, smart mouth and..."

Don't we all. In my case, there is only so much theorizing I can do before I'm burned out. What we can look forward to is A Court of Thorns and Roses next month. That will be a perfect way to open the new year. Then the feels will begin all over and new men will enter our hearts...


message 122: by Sabrine (new)

Sabrine | 58 comments Noris wrote: "Ohhh and yeah!!! I have to say it!!! Rowan has just lost his son... So... Please!!!! Rowin babys!!!!"

That's honestly a reason why I am hoping he gets a second chance. I want this man to be a father sooo badly. He would be so precious with a daughter (and overly protective). Pleeeasse let it happen.


message 123: by Rebekah (new)

Rebekah (jabberwockyslayer) | 171 comments Sabrine wrote: "Noris wrote: "Ohhh and yeah!!! I have to say it!!! Rowan has just lost his son... So... Please!!!! Rowin babys!!!!"

That's honestly a reason why I am hoping he gets a second chance. I want this m..."


I agree I feel like Rowan needs a second chance. Celaena/Aelin seemed to soften him up a bit and remind him what it was like to care.

Celaena lost Sam, Rowan lost his mate, they are both hurting. Maybe together they could heal.


message 124: by Em (new)

Em I think Manon would be the best match for Rowan tbh, but Sarah already dismissed this, so yeah haha


message 125: by Olivia (new)

Olivia M (Trincess) | 44 comments No offense but I NEED Aelin to be with Rowan, I could live with her getting back with chaol but still ☺️


message 126: by Olivia (new)

Olivia M (Trincess) | 44 comments No offense but I NEED Aelin to be with Rowan, I could live with her getting back with chaol but still ☺️


message 127: by Kaina (new)

Kaina (kainal) | 30 comments Em wrote: "I think Manon would be the best match for Rowan tbh, but Sarah already dismissed this, so yeah haha"

That would be an epic duo


message 128: by Pidge15 (new)

Pidge15 | 33 comments Sabrine wrote: "Rowaaaaaann. You muscled fae warrior you. How dare you remove me so forcibly from my Chaolaena ship? I was perfectly content then you came along with your badassery, smart mouth and hidden gentlene..."

OH, my. I saw this and giggled happily through the whole thing. Love your hilarious visuals! All it needs is a "Hey, girl..." picture :)

Please, please can the book just get here!


message 129: by Sabrine (new)

Sabrine | 58 comments Pidge15 wrote: "Sabrine wrote: "Rowaaaaaann. You muscled fae warrior you. How dare you remove me so forcibly from my Chaolaena ship? I was perfectly content then you came along with your badassery, smart mouth and..."

How convinced do you think Sarah would be? Haha!
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message 130: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments Yeah!!!! I so seriously think rowin will be endgame!!! And yes... Yes yes!!! Righ now I can picture rowan with not just a baby... A boy and a girl!!! Just imagine... Rowan teaching his son how to fight!!! Aelin eating chocolates with the girl.... Rowan so overprotective with both but even more with the girl.... Aedion being the fav godparent!


Ok... I'm going to far... Just hopping rowin could happen!


message 131: by Olivia (new)

Olivia M (Trincess) | 44 comments I LOVE that idea!!! Daydreaming


message 132: by Rebekah (new)

Rebekah (jabberwockyslayer) | 171 comments Watch Maas introduce some rando in the fifth book that Celaena ends up falling in love with and we're all wrong lol


message 133: by Olivia (new)

Olivia M (Trincess) | 44 comments I would die


message 134: by Olivia (new)

Olivia M (Trincess) | 44 comments I would die


message 135: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments What???? Where???? I just want Rowan please!


message 136: by Hannah Mae (new)

Hannah Mae | 233 comments Our love for Rowan <3


message 137: by Lizzyjah (new)

Lizzyjah (lizzz46) | 74 comments I'm gonna have to give tumblr this credit, but yeah, I love this.
Reasons Why Celaena Will End Up With Rowan
1. They are one soul in two bodies.
2. They have created every bond possible to a person in that world except for a sexual one. That is the natural next step.
3. They are closer than a married couple. No other husband would be able to stand it.
4. Their magic complements one another.
5. They are both Fae.
6. He will help her regain her throne.
7. She cannot marry Dorian because they both must rule countries in their own right, and the people of Terrasen would never consent to be joined to Adarlan in one kingdom.
8. Celaena has finally let go of Chaol. He was what she needed to come back after Endovier, but she is too morally ambiguous and wild for such a straightforward guy.
9. Sarah J Maas has cited Katniss' reaction to Prim's death as inspiration for Celaena's reaction to Nehemia's. Though it was not specifically Chaol's fault (just like Prim's was not Gale's), Celaena is unable to separate the two notions (Nehemia's death and Chaol's involvement) in her head, and thus will never be able to look at Chaol the same way.
10. Dorian's love for Celaena helped him become the man he is, but they are now just beautiful friends.
11. Sarah J Maas is in love with Rowan.
12. Nobody understands Celaena like Rowan.
13. Rowan has always seen Celaena as Aelin, her true self, whereas her other love interests see her first and foremost as Celaena, a persona she is on the road to putting behind her for good.
14. Rowan gave Celaena her tattoo, one that matches his own. One that would need lots of explaining and emotional conversation with a potential other lover, but with Rowan she doesn't need words. He already knows.
15. Rowan's love for Celaena is hinted at when his "kitty-cat friend" asks Celaena her age, she tells him, and he turns to Rowan and says, "good luck."
16. Rowan is the only one that knows everything about Celaena and her past.
17. Rowan is the only person she has met that is equal to her in every way.
18. Rowan is the shit.


message 138: by Em (new)

Em I agree with you Lizzy. These are exactly the reasons why I think Rowan will be endgame (and my chaolaena heart breaks lol)

Point 9 really pisses me off, I can't even articulate how much.


message 139: by Liz (new)

Liz | 172 comments 13 through 17 are all facts that sometimes make me reconsider my Team Aelin stance.

And 18 is right!


message 140: by Kaina (new)

Kaina (kainal) | 30 comments Those 18 reasons make my shipper heart feel all kinds of happy


message 141: by Lindsay (new)

Lindsay Katz | 39 comments I honestly can't think of anything else to write because you all have written it down for me! I thought I was alone in this ship. When I told my only other friend who has read the series about it, she pushed the thought down and claimed Rowaelin was only Platonic.

I do feel that (no matter how hard I ship these two) their relationship will only remain platonic (at least for book four). I think that what has happened between Rowan and Celaena is as far as things will go for a while. After all, Celaena is going to Rifthold to clear things up. They will be apart for a long time and things could really change (possibly new love interests?).

Just watch, Maas will bring in some new character just like she did for Dorian with Sorscha.


message 142: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments Yes yes! Lizzy yes!!! I think Rowan is just perfect for her... Too much hints of a kind of romance just to be a friendship. And.. Just I have to add 2 things!
1. The love is born from the admiration. You need to admire your couple in order to keep in loved with him/her. (Is more than obvious the way she've always admire rowan... Even if she wan't able to admit it)
2. The strongest romance relationships are formed step by step... Little by little just to ensure that every part of each person fits perfectly with the other one. (Let's hope for this. Anyway... Book 3 was just the start)


message 143: by Laura (new)

Laura | 102 comments That list made my life complete lol.

"18. Rowan is the shit."

Hahaha died.
All those reason are so fantastically, wonderfully on point and really there's just no arguing against our ship anymore because ITS GONNA HAPPEN. I know it is!!!
I'll cry forever if it's not. You think I'm kidding, I'm so invested in this ship it's not even freaking funny you guys. I think a little piece of my soul would shrivel up and die if it didn't happen. (Wow that was kinda dramatic but also sadly accurate lol oh well. Maas my future happiness is in your hands just so you know. No pressure or anything.)
I just feel absolutely sure of our Rowlin ship at this point tbh. Sucks to suck Choalaena shippers (much love though).
It's gonna happen you guys, don't worry,


message 144: by Olivia (new)

Olivia M (Trincess) | 44 comments I think it's gonna happen as well but to be honest, when Aelin and chaol were together I was happy as heck and was devastated when they, well, broke up, but now I am even happier that she might be with Rowan


message 145: by Rebekah (new)

Rebekah (jabberwockyslayer) | 171 comments Lizzyjah wrote: "I'm gonna have to give tumblr this credit, but yeah, I love this.
Reasons Why Celaena Will End Up With Rowan
1. They are one soul in two bodies.
2. They have created every bond possible to a person..."


Oh my stars above that was so perfect. I am dying right now.


message 146: by Delenn (new)

Delenn Kennedy | 9 comments Choaleana shippers see us Rowlin, they hatin. Don't know why but this seemed right :3 they are perfect!!


message 147: by Rebekah (new)

Rebekah (jabberwockyslayer) | 171 comments Delenn wrote: "Choaleana shippers see us Rowlin, they hatin. Don't know why but this seemed right :3 they are perfect!!"

Hahaha


message 148: by Lizzyjah (new)

Lizzyjah (lizzz46) | 74 comments ^^^PREACH @hannah


message 149: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments That!!! Remeber... Don't you think is suspicious??? I mean, remeber this.

Aelin once told him "I claim you Rowan Whitethorn... (blablabla) I claim you as my FRIEND" then... Our super fraking hot and sweet (in his own way) Rowan told her... "I claim you Aelin Galanthynius... To whatever end" (I was crying in this part)

But... If you see... Rowan didn't specify the way... Not just a friend... There's a word missing... And the word could define everything...

May be I'm fangirling but a part of me is sure that Rowan DO HAVE romantic and hidden feelings for her... So he didn't specify the way he claims her!


message 150: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments Again sorry but in my mobile the autocorrection is draving me crazy!


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