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also - there could have been more Hopper....

also - there could have been more Hopper...."
I agree... Hopper can only stay one year. We should have gotten a goodbye..

i know right... omg.. i couldnt believe also but so cool... loved it to bits..


Neil's decision. I can't understand it. It feels like he was running away from his responsibilities, like he didn't want to be a parent so he just left instead. I mean, if he'd truly wanted to he could have taken his son with him, and since nobody really knew about him there'd be no questions asked. Instead he just ran away. I feel bad for the guy, but I didn't buy that his entire reason was to keep his son safe.
On a more positive note, I think my favourite part was Sydney getting one over on the alchemists and putting her dad in his place. Also I'm so happy Marcus and Carly got together!


Neil's decision. I can't understand..."
I thought the same. He left his duty and I thought that the guardians were all about duty. Look at Eddie. He is a guardian when he is asleep. And I think I developed a tiny crush on Eddie. He seems so loyal and caring. And Omigod he lives with Sydney and Adrian. I'm still shocked about the revelation regarding Dimitri's father.
*smacks forehead*
A year and a day....
OMG!!!! WE NEVER GOT TO SAY GOODBYE TO HOPPER!!!! BECAUSE THE EPILOGUE HAPPENED 1 AND A HALF YEARS LATER OMGOMGOMGOMGGGG!!!!! NOW I AM SAD!!!!!
GOODBYE HOPPER BABY DARLING CUTIE LITTLE DRAGON!!!!
A year and a day....
OMG!!!! WE NEVER GOT TO SAY GOODBYE TO HOPPER!!!! BECAUSE THE EPILOGUE HAPPENED 1 AND A HALF YEARS LATER OMGOMGOMGOMGGGG!!!!! NOW I AM SAD!!!!!
GOODBYE HOPPER BABY DARLING CUTIE LITTLE DRAGON!!!!
Ha ha ha, when it was like:
Oh yeah Uncle Rand, for Randall all I could think was:

HA HA!!!! Poor Dimitri.
Oh yeah Uncle Rand, for Randall all I could think was:

HA HA!!!! Poor Dimitri.

Oh yeah Uncle Rand, for Randall all I could think was:
HA HA!!!! Poor Dimitri."
lol
My brain does weird things and makes weird connections sometimes...hence Randall from Monsters Inc. XD


I didn't and and that's why it was so overwhelming..My review 5stars
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Neil's decision. I can't understand..."
I think in terms of Neil's decision, there will be a lot of mixed feelings. Though I think he left because if suddenly he disappeared from Court there would be a search go out for him. Then if they found him with a child, then linked it back to Olive's death, all hell would break lose.
Maybe they could of used complusion to let people know that he's died or some other story, but it wouldn't be fair. I think Neil knew that if he took his son, he wouldn't have a normal life. Declan could never meet people of his own kind-and he'd have to be careful who he meets, since it could go back to Court.
Sydney and Adrian gave him that normal life around people who love and care for him just as much. Not to mention Adrian can keep an eye on his 'specialness' that Neil could never of checked on if he'd left.
But think of it this way; at least he kept it touch via Eddie and still loves his son. :)

Neil's decision..."
The problem is throughout the series we've been led to believe that dhampire babies are conceived all the time by dhampire mothers and those dhampire children usually never even know who their father is and nobody questions or cares. If people had known Olive gave birth to a child nobody, not a single one would suspect it was Neil's. Even if it Declan grew up and looked like his father, it's too bizarre a thing for anybody to suspect. I maintain that I think he left because he didn't want the responsibility and saw a scapegoat in the excuse about protecting his son and giving him to Adrian and Sydney.


We have been led to believe this throughout the entire series, all the way from VA. But what we also have to take into account is a lot of people at Court knew that Olive was missing; Nina, Lissa, Sonya, Adrian, Sydney, Rose, Dimitri and so on. If suddenly Neil turned up at Court with a child in tow, imagine the questions that would be put forth? He'd be asked who's the child was, where it came from, who the mother was and all sorts of other questions.
The problem being Neil is in fact the father, but he can't defend himself against the moroi, not mentally at least. They could use complusion to tell him the truth. The other people at Court would sense his-Declan's- magic, especially those with spirit and no matter how nice a woman Sonya is. We all know she would want to use him to further her research. :(
Neil isn't just a new character, we've known him and he's the gentleman. I don't think he would of left because he didn't care or want the responsibilty.
Not to mention, if he did take Declan and raise him; everyday he'd seen Olive in that little boy. He'd see the woman he couldn't save. He'd see the woman he loved, the woman he couldn't get to quick enough. That guilt would hang over his head for the rest of his life. :(
I do love Declan though! He's so cute!
But my biggest disappointment was this:
THEY NEVER SAID GOODBYE TO HOPPER!!!!! IT WAS JUST oh yeah a year and a half later then BOOM NO HOPPER!!!!!
WHHHYYYYYY HOPPER WAS MY LITTLE FAVE DRAGON CALLISTANA!!!! *flailing*
I just don't get it! :'(
And also, I think Richelle should have clarified that Alicia was taken away to witch judgement because for a while I thought they'd just left her frozen as a statue for the next 2 years.
BUT I'M GLAD THAT ROSE AND DIMITRI GOT ENGAGED!!!! *flails* akjsdflkjsdflkjask
But my biggest disappointment was this:
THEY NEVER SAID GOODBYE TO HOPPER!!!!! IT WAS JUST oh yeah a year and a half later then BOOM NO HOPPER!!!!!
WHHHYYYYYY HOPPER WAS MY LITTLE FAVE DRAGON CALLISTANA!!!! *flailing*
I just don't get it! :'(
And also, I think Richelle should have clarified that Alicia was taken away to witch judgement because for a while I thought they'd just left her frozen as a statue for the next 2 years.
BUT I'M GLAD THAT ROSE AND DIMITRI GOT ENGAGED!!!! *flails* akjsdflkjsdflkjask

Yeah but there's no reason to say the child wasn't Olives. That she died and Neil adopted the baby because he loved her. Nobody would question who the father was because like I said dhampire girls get pregnant all the time and nobody wonders who the father is. Regarding Sonya I'm pretty sure she's eventually going to find out anyway because Adrian considered telling her during the book. She and Adrian are the only ones who would have been able to see something different about him.
As for Neil feeling guilty because the child might look like Olive, so it's fine for Adrian to have to feel that guilt, when he was there and directly could have saved her had circumstances been different, but Neil shouldn't have to, when it's his kid? I just disagree with his reasoning. I thought it was illogical and I do think he was just scared and didn't want to raise a kid.

It probably will be. Also, we never heard if the law about having another person in your family was lifted...but maybe we can assume it was....?????
AND YES!!!! SAME!!! I REALLY HOPE MS T AND WOLFE GOT MARRIED!!!!
ha ha ha ha, @Andria, I ran around the house being like, omg this can't be true, but it's true but it can't be true BUT IT'S TRUE!!!!!! And umm, then buried my face giggling (but not with laughter, idek what I was giggling with) in the book. XD
AND YES!!!! SAME!!! I REALLY HOPE MS T AND WOLFE GOT MARRIED!!!!
ha ha ha ha, @Andria, I ran around the house being like, omg this can't be true, but it's true but it can't be true BUT IT'S TRUE!!!!!! And umm, then buried my face giggling (but not with laughter, idek what I was giggling with) in the book. XD

I know!!!!! But hopefully that means it's not the end. SHE NEEDS TO WRITE MORE!!! But I think she just needs a few years to recharge, because not saying anything against them, but her later books in the bloodlines series could've been a better standard like the VA series. They were still good, but there were cliches and predictable storylines and some things were cheesy or felt forced, even if I did still love the characters. (I don't wanna let go!)
But I reckon there'll be heaps of fanfiction now... maybe I'll write some!
But I reckon there'll be heaps of fanfiction now... maybe I'll write some!

Yeah, I read some good stories on fanfiction. Now that everyone can have a child it would be cool to make a spin-off with only the children. A new threat but I can't come up with anything. Leave it to Richelle. Still we have Soundless.Which I am looking forward to.

I know! Same I was like, omg don't copy Harry Potter!
I wanted it either to be Rose being like
"I'm pregnant."
END
or
"I know the centre will hold for the rest of our lives, because we are the centre."
OR SOMETHING!!!!
but yeah, not too keen with 'always' it was okay I guess. Bit cliche.
And I just hope that in the future, Sydrian do have a baby. :)
I wanted it either to be Rose being like
"I'm pregnant."
END
or
"I know the centre will hold for the rest of our lives, because we are the centre."
OR SOMETHING!!!!
but yeah, not too keen with 'always' it was okay I guess. Bit cliche.
And I just hope that in the future, Sydrian do have a baby. :)


He didn't know Adrian was related to his dad.

He didn't know Adrian was related to his dad."
I mean personality wise.
S.L.J. wrote: "No wonder Dimitri hated Adrian when they first met. He thought Adrian was just like his dad."
OMG THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!!!! *flails*
OMG THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!!!! *flails*
I also really missed Angeline's antics in this book! And I missed Abe and I WANTED WOLFE AND ABE TO MEET AND WE BARELY GOT ANY INTERACTION WITH WOLFE AT ALL!!!! D':


I was so Happy that they were I wanted Dimitri and Adrian to Kick his sorry ass

I was literely in shock when I rtealised that but then iwas so extremely happy
HA HA HA OMG I CAN JUST IMAGE THE ROSE HATHAWAY PREGNANCY MOOD SWINGS!!!!! XD
And they are like, the best parents! ^_^ Love them. Declan is just adorable. :P
BUT HOPPER!!!! <- this is the only thing I will ever be disappointed about. I'm gong to have to write a devastating farewell as part of The Adventures of Hopper the Callistana at the very end.
And they are like, the best parents! ^_^ Love them. Declan is just adorable. :P
BUT HOPPER!!!! <- this is the only thing I will ever be disappointed about. I'm gong to have to write a devastating farewell as part of The Adventures of Hopper the Callistana at the very end.

Everything in the world is exactly the way it was at the end of VA.
yeah that's what annoyed me the most too. ESPECIALLY since the whole point of Bloodlines was to get rid of the age law.
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