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There was one story of a girl who at least as of yesterday had a bullet too close to her spine to be able to remove it. I don't know that it means forever or if a specialist was going to have to do it. It sound like with the distances involved a lot of the bullets stayed in people instead of exiting. But I haven't seen the caliber used to see if that makes sense to me or not. 3-400 yards is not especially long depending on the caliber. On the other hand he could have chosen ammunition that had a better chance of lodging in the person.

Lol your dream sounds like one of mine, Travis. Your poor (dream) cows.

We also got some shocking news yesterday. A good friend of my son killed herself last weekend. She was a beautiful, smart 21 year old. She was in my sons class in school and lived on the same road as us. They were chatting just last week for gods sake!
This is the 3rd suicide of a young girl that was in Colm's class in school. One at 15 and one at 16. This 21 year old is the only one that was in his clique and he is in bits. Wasn't even able to go to college today and I don't what I do for him. Nothing.

I hope your friend's daughter will be okay Janice.
That's shocking Margo. And very sad. Also shocking that so many girls from his class have committed suicide.

I hope your friend's daughter will be okay Janice.
That's shocking Margo. And very sad. Also shocking that so many girls from his class have committed suicide."
I know - it's like the idea is contagious. It's really scary.

We also got some shocking news yesterday. A good friend of my son killed herself last weekend. She was a beautiful, smart 21 year old. She was in ..."
Oh, Margo! That is awful!


I did hear this morning that another Albertan died. This 31 year old woman was from Jasper which is where my dad and I were this weekend. Another Albertan woman is missing! She was separated from her husband during the attack.
Margo, I'm really sorry to hear about your son's friend. Suicide is so traumatic and I really feel for your son.


I saw a report that said he had 23 guns inside the hotel room. I just can't fathom what would make a person do this!
@Margo, I'm so sorry for your son and his friend's family. There are some great support groups online to help with those left behind after suicide. I can't remember what they are right now, but I'm sure you can find them by googling. Maybe you can find some help in supporting your son in this tragic time on one of these sites.
@Kristie, hopefully your dental work isn't too tortuous today!

Kristie I have 3 crowns now - they're not so bad! My teeth are awful, they just crumble away.

The entire class got some group counseling after the first 2, but he's not in school anymore and I doubt that he'd go for it voluntarily. I'm giving him lots of comfort food at the moment but that's the limit of my powers.


Margo, the best thing you can do is what you are doing.

Glad the dentistry went well, Kristie.
And I'm glad your friend's daughter is okay, Janice. Even if she's in the corridor. It's sort of a good sign she is in the corridor though, but uncomfortable for all.


@Rusalka thanks, I'll check it out
@Janice - at least she's back with (or near) her family. That's so important when you're in hospital.







I'm sorry to hear about your nan, Sarah. It sounds like she had a really productive life. At least everyone was able to be with her at the end.



This is the 3rd suicide of a young girl that was in Colm's class in school. One at 15 and one at 16. This 21 year old is the only one that was in his clique and he is in bits. Wasn't even able to go to college today and I don't what I do for him. Nothing."
Margo, that's so sad. I hope your son finds a way to deal with his friend's death. Maybe he'll be ready to talk to someone eventually.
Travis sivarT wrote: "If you don't mind me asking, Margo, is there much where you live for suicide prevention. It's everywhere around here. There's 800 numbers to call for help. There are walks and various other fundrai..."
The main place is the Suicide Prevention Hotline. The one time I called it I never got through to a person, just recordings. It was a good thing I wasn't really desperate because I couldn't find any other resource at the time. Most local areas don't have the funding for any kind of 24 hour service.



Travis, I'm guessing a lot of people joined just because she's famous. She does (or at least did) post on her group's page, so I'm sure some people feel like they "know" her by being part of her group.

We have the same here, Peggy. And a huge amount of suicide prevention advertising, and support networks advertising. And like Travis said, free helpline numbers you can call. The biggest one runs the biggest book fairs too ;)

Travis... she likely had out-of-country medical/travel insurance which would cover the medevac. A few years back, a friend and her husband were on a cruise in Italy. He had a stroke onboard. He was moved to a hospital in Italy. Their insurance flew a doctor to Italy to accompany him back to Canada.

We put the chooks to bed last night, and I got startled by a shadow above their house which I assumed was a rat, but it then appeared to have wings, a beak and a tail. A magpie had got stuck in the coop, and then instead of going back out the door, had tried to squeeze out through the chicken wire roof, which has holes the size of you middle finger touching your thumb. It got it's head out, half of it's two wings (and was pretty bloody and lost feathers) and then got stuck. It must have been there for at least 4-5 hours.
We ended up at 11pm trying to extract it from above and below, then having to cut the wire to get it out (to which it shot out and flopped around the roof where I couldn't get it and up a tree. I had to shine a torch on it to get it high up the tree to be safe as couldn't reach it, but as he was exhausted and hurt and probably dehydrated and birds don't fly at night, it was horrible to watch) and then patch back up the wire so foxes couldn't get into the chooks. We got back inside at 1am.
We couldn't see him this morning (we got up a couple of hours after sunrise), but he wasn't in our yard or the neighbours. And he didn't come back this arvo. I hope he's okay :(

I reckon a lot of them are not active, Travis. Also, I think it's a good bet that a number of them were not on Goodreads before she created the group, and they joined simply because she drew them in. I think her group is both a good thing and a bad thing. It's good because it has made more people aware of Goodreads and some of them could be genuine book lovers who simply had not heard of the site before, but I also think it's bad as some of the members probably have no real interest in books at all and joined simply because they are fans of Emma. Whilst that means more members for Goodreads, I think it's a shame to join if you have no interest in books. Part of the fun for me is interacting with other book lovers and discovering new things to read.

We put the chooks to bed last night, and I got startled by a shadow above their house w..."
That's sad, Rusalka. Poor little thing :( I hope he is okay. Keep us posted.

In other news, Kazuo Ishiguro just won the Nobel Prize for Lit. One day, Murakami, one day.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/201...


Do you really think I won't notice if you copy text straight from the article, throw it into google translate, and paste the grammatically incorrect sentence in your assignment? Over and over again?
Or that I don't notice you have handed in the exact same assignment as one of your fellow students, spelling mistakes and all?
And it's fresh 1st year students, I expect them to behave better. Unless they don't know those things are not allowed, but I can't imagine they got away with stuff like that in high school..

There is lot of talk about mental health health awareness in Ireland Travis, but very little to back it up. In rural communities, like where I live, suicide is a very real problem. Families that have been affected are making great strides in the community but there is a real lack of professional backup.
I'm not sure how our rates compare to other countries but it more common in young males than than females. Here are some stats http://www.nsrf.ie/statistics/suicide/.
Ironically in my town, over the last 6 years it has been mostly girls. In my experience these clusters, usually among a group of friends. The last cluster, about 20 years ago, was a group of male cousins. It's scary stuff.
For a long time here there has been a sense of shame around mental health problems and councilling has been a dirty word. I think that is starting to change, but it takes a long time to change a culture.
Our government pays great lip service to the issue but considering the mess our entire health service is in ...
A very long rambling answer to your question Travis but I'm a bit emotional after dropping my son off at the funeral and seeing all his former classmates crying on each others shoulders :,(

That's annoying, and I would find being stranded a little off putting if I lived like you guys do. I mean, you come and go as you please! Not at someone else's (or a pipe's) whim!

Do you really think I won't notice if you copy text straight from the article, throw it into google translate, and paste the grammatic..."
I thought of you the other day, when my office was dealing with an essay that wasn't even a document, it was multiple images. The images were screenshots of another student's essay, and submitted as their own. They were a 2nd year student.
I am constantly amazed at students' stupidity, and sometimes with others their creativity, when it comes to plagiarism.

I'm sorry, Margo. Do you have someone to hang out with or have a cup of tea with? Or a wonderful book to read in the sunshine (is it sunny?) or under blankets? Hugs from over here.
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That's so horrible, Janice.