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What Else Are You Reading - November 2016

Eventually I might get around to finishing the Great Sky River series by Benford. Book 5 isn't available in the library. Not going to pay $10 for this on kindle when my main motivation is to just finish the damn story, so will have to get a hard copy somewhere. I don't like reading hard copies. Maybe I won't bother. I just hate to give up on a story.
John (Taloni) wrote: "Well, lessee. Reading Golem and Jinni a little late. "
Yeah. I need to read that still. It's next on my list after I finish A Closed and Common Orbit
Yeah. I need to read that still. It's next on my list after I finish A Closed and Common Orbit

Then moving on to The Four Legendary Kingdoms by Matthew Reilly. Or, if my library gets it in, The Rise of Io by Wesley Chu.


The Most Amazing Man Who Ever Lived I'm gradually working my way through Robert Rankin's back catalogue. His somewhat absurdist fiction has always felt like a particularly British institution to me. Has anyone else here read much of it?
Mr. Penumbra's 24-Hour Bookstore This kept popping up on people's lists and I loved the way the title sounded, even if I didn't know much else about the book. Still not really sure where it's heading, but it's an easy-going read so far and the intrigue is building gradually.

Starting this weekend: Chapelwood and
Edit: I read the first page of Wong's book. No.
About half way through Ghost in the Wires: My Adventures as the World's Most Wanted Hacker. The story of the hacker Kevin Mitnick. I remember hearing about him and seeing him on the Screen Savers back then. Fascinating story. Not fiction but it could be, and there is plenty of true tech details. I find it hard to put it down.
Still reading Heimskringla: or, The Lives of the Norse Kings and enjoying it. Full of great stories.
Still reading Heimskringla: or, The Lives of the Norse Kings and enjoying it. Full of great stories.
David wrote: "About half way through Ghost in the Wires: My Adventures as the World's Most Wanted Hacker. The story of the hacker Kevin Mitnick. I remember hearing about him and seeing him on the..."
It's a pretty good book. Albeit heavily biased on Mitnick's side of things. There are a few other books about him, that are heavily biased against him though (especially Takedown).
I've actually read it twice though because I did a reread with some friends who were interested in trying something different.
If you're interested in computer crime in general, Kingpin: How One Hacker Took Over the Billion-Dollar Cybercrime Underground was fascinating. Masters of Deception: The Gang That Ruled Cyberspace was also pretty good.
Cyberpunk: Outlaws and Hackers on the Computer Frontier, Revised covers 3 different stories, including one on the early days of Mitnick. The story in there about RTM was the best of the three though.
I have a whole shelf of computer nonfiction, most of it computer crime, but some is computer history and/or computer textbooks: https://www.goodreads.com/review/list...
It's a pretty good book. Albeit heavily biased on Mitnick's side of things. There are a few other books about him, that are heavily biased against him though (especially Takedown).
I've actually read it twice though because I did a reread with some friends who were interested in trying something different.
If you're interested in computer crime in general, Kingpin: How One Hacker Took Over the Billion-Dollar Cybercrime Underground was fascinating. Masters of Deception: The Gang That Ruled Cyberspace was also pretty good.
Cyberpunk: Outlaws and Hackers on the Computer Frontier, Revised covers 3 different stories, including one on the early days of Mitnick. The story in there about RTM was the best of the three though.
I have a whole shelf of computer nonfiction, most of it computer crime, but some is computer history and/or computer textbooks: https://www.goodreads.com/review/list...

Rob wrote: "I have a whole shelf of computer nonfiction, most of it computer crime, but some is computer history and/or computer textbooks: ..."
Thanks for the pointer to the list. I spotted some to add to my TBR list.
Couple of related books I enjoyed that are related but missing from your list are Sex on the Moon: The Amazing Story Behind the Most Audacious Heist in History. Not computer crime, but stealing lunar samples. I'm biased about the book because I do work with some of the people. It was fun to read about people and places I know. In the computer line, The Cathedral & the Bazaar: Musings on Linux and Open Source by an Accidental Revolutionary is a manifesto of sorts for open source. As I read it I kept finding common values between my field of librarianship and open source culture. Thanks again for pointing me to your list.
Thanks for the pointer to the list. I spotted some to add to my TBR list.
Couple of related books I enjoyed that are related but missing from your list are Sex on the Moon: The Amazing Story Behind the Most Audacious Heist in History. Not computer crime, but stealing lunar samples. I'm biased about the book because I do work with some of the people. It was fun to read about people and places I know. In the computer line, The Cathedral & the Bazaar: Musings on Linux and Open Source by an Accidental Revolutionary is a manifesto of sorts for open source. As I read it I kept finding common values between my field of librarianship and open source culture. Thanks again for pointing me to your list.
Thanks for the recommendations. I'll check them out. I'm always trying to get more nonfiction into the mix.





Good, interesting world, pretty predictable plot. I'd like to hear the backstory of the world.

Starting Futuristic Violence and Fancy Suits.

Also check out his graphic novel The Griff: A Graphic Novel. Moore + pictures.

I can definitely see the difference in artistry between the two, but nevertheless I prefer the Old Man's War series. Golem and the Jinni had that literary word art to its credit and Scalzi is kinda clunky. It's just that I generally need a plot to stay interested. I like fantasy fine. In Dragonflight we had a duel to the death in the first few chapters, hidden nobility taking on a new role, fighting Thread and a planet saving trip to the past, all by the end of the book. Golem and the Jinni has...walking. And lots of relationship talk.
I didn't hate it, though. I noticed that there was a followup, but on second look it's slated for 2018. I would have put it on my tentative list had it actually been available.
This makes me think of authors that make a good start and then stop. The Sparrow / Children of God was great, but then no real followup. Golem and the Jinni came out in 2013. A book every five years makes it hard to build a fan base.
Meanwhile, Scalzi pumps out Old Man's War books on a regular basis. They're obviously derivative of Starship Troopers, but fun enough. I read Monster Hunter International by Correia, largely because I enjoyed his posts on the Puppy controversy. That book left me cold so I haven't read more Correia, but he sure pumps 'em out and his fans eat 'em up. Even funnier, Scalzi and Correia get along fine and regularly talk about what is of most interest to them both: Selling more books.



I am also reading The Wall of Storms by Ken Liu,which I am enjoying but (view spoiler) . And that may be a bit harsh, not a bad book by any means.... just a bit frustrating. Next up is Obelisk Gate... can't wait!

Maybe a bit harsh. (view spoiler)

Maybe a bit harsh. [spoilers removed]"
That is a fair and solid point, (view spoiler) . Again, by no means a bad novel, I just disliked this implementation.
I finished reading A Closed and Common Orbit and really enjoyed it (My Review).
I also finished Futuristic Violence and Fancy Suits, which I enjoyed far less (My Review).
I also finished Futuristic Violence and Fancy Suits, which I enjoyed far less (My Review).

I suppose at some point this year I will have to read Becky Chambers, hearing a lot of word-of-mouth buzz about her books.
I finished The Big Book of Science Fiction, which was a pretty epic read (100+ stories!), but an amazing review of the smart side of science fiction.
Also read A Taste of Honey. Kai Ashante Wilson's fantasy becoming must-read material for me, this is no different. This book takes place in the same world as his amazing The Sorcerer of the Wildeeps.
Currently reading: Rajaniemi's Collected Fiction and Clare Cooney's Bone Swans, its all short stories for me right now.

One of the things I like about this thread is finding out about what other people like. I've only vaguely heard of this series. I see that The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet is available at my library as is Closed and Common Orbit. How is the first book?
John (Taloni) wrote: "Rob wrote: "I finished reading A Closed and Common Orbit and really enjoyed it (My Review)."
One of the things I like about this thread is finding out about what other people like...."
I really enjoyed it, but I'll warn it's very light on plot. Instead it's almost a series of vinettes about the various characters on board a ship. I've seen some criticism calling it peachy too, but I didn't find it that way.
One of the things I like about this thread is finding out about what other people like...."
I really enjoyed it, but I'll warn it's very light on plot. Instead it's almost a series of vinettes about the various characters on board a ship. I've seen some criticism calling it peachy too, but I didn't find it that way.

Not sure what "peachy" means as a criticism if you feel like elucidating.
Oops. I missed an r. I meant, "preachy". Though honestly I'm not sure why. Maybe because she explores a variety of relationships in the course of the book.
Here's my review of the first book if you're interested: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
Here's my review of the first book if you're interested: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

The City of Mirrors by Justin Cronin.
I enjoyed the first 2 in the series. Hopefully he can finish it off well.
I enjoyed the first 2 in the series. Hopefully he can finish it off well.

I'm intrigued by the idea and concept. But I'm worried that it's going to be too LOOK AT THIS WORLD LOOK HOW COOL AND INVENTIVE, as I felt The Quantum Thief was for me, then the actual plot being bland and boring, with weak characters.

What do you like about it? I found the first one very derivative of Niven's Known Space books, but overall enjoyed the series. No one can wrangle the issues around relativistic travel like Reynolds.
I found the violence and gore a bit overmuch but not enough to give up on the books.
Also, if you can find it, the short "Winter" is fabulous.

I agree, the first one is not my favorite. In general I like the fictional universe, the writing style which I find vivid and sophisticated, the plots. My only regret is that, sometimes, character development is rather sketchy. For example in "Chasm City" I struggle to understand what motivates the protagonist. Revenge?

Concerning Chasm City, not sure if you've finished it yet so I'll spoiler protect:
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Also reading the pick of the month, so far I'm kind of MEH on it.
And eventually I'll finish last month's book, too.


It does fall into that a bit in the beginning but this one line from the blurb, "Cheris’s best hope is to ally with the undead tactician Shuos Jedao" added a new angle that has made things very interesting.
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