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Reading the Bard -- Schedule & Requests
Ooh, so, I still have a few days, hopefully I can reread MacBeth (I've been planning to anyway) and join in on some discussion there!I forget who brought it up first, but I've always found the Folger Shakespeare Library editions to be excellent--I think I read my first FSL edition in seventh grade and was perfectly able to figure out what was going on.
I've also (more recently) been using the book Shakespeare After All as a broader reference if there's a theme, concept, or plot element I want clarification on. Marjorie Garber is quite good at breaking down and discussing more difficult themes and topics. It's a pretty hefty reference book, though, so it's probably not for everyone.
I hope you can read it too Jennifer. I'm planning on starting on it Tuesday.
Loretta wrote: "That's fine Kathy and Pink but I'll stick to my plan. I'll be reading Much Ado About Nothing in December (or sooner) if anyone else is interested, great, if not, no biggie! :)"Loretta, I'd be up for it in either November or December!
Its on my challenge list for the year so I need to get it in :)
I read Hamlet last month and am currently working through Lear, but would like to do the Tempest and R&J at some point soon. I also haven't read Shakespeare since college and am actually quite enjoying the plays now.
Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "That's fine Kathy and Pink but I'll stick to my plan. I'll be reading Much Ado About Nothing in December (or sooner) if anyone else is interested, great, if not, no big..."That's fine Sarah! Just remind me again! So many books flying around! :)
Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "That's fine Kathy and Pink but I'll stick to my plan. I'll be reading Much Ado About Nothing in December (or sooner) if anyone else is interested, great, ..."I know! Its getting hard to keep track.
I will definitely remind you. I'd lean more towards November if that would work for you, but December would be ok too.
Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "That's fine Kathy and Pink but I'll stick to my plan. I'll be reading Much Ado About Nothing in December (or sooner) if anyone else is int..."I'm open any month you'd like Sarah! :)
Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "That's fine Kathy and Pink but I'll stick to my plan. I'll be reading Much Ado About Nothing in December (or sooner) if anyo..."Want to put it on the schedule for November?
Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "That's fine Kathy and Pink but I'll stick to my plan. I'll be reading Much Ado About Nothing in December (or..."Excellent and if something comes up, December is fine too! :)
Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "That's fine Kathy and Pink but I'll stick to my plan. I'll be reading Much Ado About Nothing i..."Sounds good to me! :)
Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "That's fine Kathy and Pink but I'll stick to my plan. I'll be reading [book:Much Ado About ..."Thanks Sarah for wanting to buddy read this with me! :)
I'm reading Othello and King Lear but if I have time I can join.
Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Loretta wrote: "That's fine Kathy and Pink but I'll stick to my plan. I'll be reading [book:M..."You're welcome :)
Shakespeare is always more fun when you have someone to talk about it with.
Brina wrote: "I'm reading Othello and King Lear but if I have time I can join."
The more the merrier if you can join!
Can't promise but as you say it's easier to read Shakespeare in a group. I'm already reading the other plays plus I have other books I'd like to read before the end of the year.
Brina wrote: "Can't promise but as you say it's easier to read Shakespeare in a group. I'm already reading the other plays plus I have other books I'd like to read before the end of the year."I hear you. I keep looking at the stuff I'm supposed to finish for challenges by the end of the year, plus the stuff I want to read plus the group reads for all my groups and its definitely daunting.
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I'll put in on the schedule for November, let me know if you change your mind. I'll add the thread when the month approaches.
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So nice to see excitement for this reading endeavor
We have Othello for November and King Lear for December and I think there might be another play planned for December as well not sure.
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I've got those two in the schedule already. Thanks
As for 2017 -- let's wait until December to actually schedule those.
Sarah wrote: "I hear you. I keep looking at the stuff I'm supposed to finish for challenges by the end of the year, plus the stuff I want to read plus the group reads for all my groups and its definitely daunting."I feel you. I attempted to plan my tbr list for this year to get through a backlog of series plus allow time for read-a-longs or random insertions as desired. Well 1 read-a-long I hadn't planned for with 10 books got inserted, I added another series and 1 series I planned on reading got left by the wayside somewhat. And I took on A Game of Thrones...that book is massive and takes time to read to attempt to keep all the characters straight!
I'm a touch behind on read-a-longs (Merchant of Venice and The Invisible Man; *way* behind on The Odyssey), but my overall plan for the year is looking pretty reasonable for completion.
Now that there's a dedicated group to get through Shakesphere, I'm going to have to adjust my plan for next year to try and allow that in...
Can one vote that a day be longer than 24 hours, a week longer than 7 days and a year longer than 365? Too many books, not enough time!
If I didn't have that pesky thing called work I could totally read more. But you know, stuff costs money so I have to be a responsible adult and work *sigh*
Me too--- I work in the lunch room at my kids' school 15 hrs a week for tuition relief. It is amazing how much more time I have to read over summer vacation sigh.
is it too late to join the Shakespeare readings? I have read all of these and have been looking for an excuse to reread the ones I don't teach. :-)
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It is never too late to join us. Please do!
Yes the more the merrier glad you are bringing your teaching expertise to the group.
I'd like to join in for Othello and Much Ado about Nothing, I'm open about which month.
Fae wrote: "I'd like to join in for Othello and Much Ado about Nothing, I'm open about which month."Fae, Sarah and I will be reading Much Ado About Nothing in November, unless something comes up, then it will be in December. We would be happy if you joined us! :)
Loretta wrote: "Fae wrote: "I'd like to join in for Othello and Much Ado about Nothing, I'm open about which month."Fae, Sarah and I will be reading Much Ado About Nothing in November, unless someth..."
November is wonderful Loretta, I'm looking foward to it! :)
Fae wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Fae wrote: "I'd like to join in for Othello and Much Ado about Nothing, I'm open about which month."Fae, Sarah and I will be reading Much Ado About Nothing in Novembe..."
Excellent Fae! We are too! :)
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Both of those are scheduled in November. So glad to have you join us.
Fae wrote: "Loretta wrote: "Fae wrote: "I'd like to join in for Othello and Much Ado about Nothing, I'm open about which month."Fae, Sarah and I will be reading Much Ado About Nothing in Novembe..."
The more the merrier, Fae :)
Looking forward to everyone who will be reading Othello :)
I'm planing on joining R&J (if that one's still on?), and someone was talking about King Lear - for november, maybe ... ? Anyone still interested in reading A Winter's Tale? Maybe in december?
Lilly, as of now both Much Ado About Nothing and Othello are schedule for November. And King Lear for December. There might be another play in December but I forgot which one it was.
Thanks for reminding me, Brina! I sort of got confused while following the thread ...
Brina wrote: "Lilly, as of now both Much Ado About Nothing and Othello are schedule for November. And King Lear for December. There might be another play in December but I forgot which one it was."Yep that's right! If anyone needs a reminder of the schedule, Kathy's keeping the list updated in the 2nd post of this thread.
Lilly, yes the R&J thread is already up, I hope you'll join in whenever you're ready. I read it last month, so I'll be happy to discuss :)
Pink wrote: "Thanks Kathy, I've been meaning to set up a dedicated Shakespeare thread all day! ."Has any consideration been given to reading the whole oeuvre through in the order in which he wrote them (perhaps using Goddard's order as being as good a guess as any), maybe one a month?
I don't think it has, as people are picking the plays that interest them most and selecting those to buddy read. Plus we've all read different plays of his already and probably don't want to revisit the same ones. Although I'd be happy to read them in order, I'm not sure if anyone else plans on working through his entire works. I'm trying to concentrate on his earlier plays first, although I keep getting sidetracked by his more famous works.
I'm also undecided on which order I want to read his history tetralogies. I believe Henry VI parts 2 and 3 were thought to be written before part 1, so I don't know how I plan on tackling these yet.
Pink wrote: I'm also undecided on which order I want to read his history tetralogies. I believe Henry VI parts 2 and 3 were thought to be written before part 1, so I don't know how I plan on tackling these yet. ."And didn't he write Henry VI before Henry IV? When I made a project of reading all his history plays, though (many, many years ago) I decided to do them in historical order.
I relied heavily on the wonderful book by Peter Saccio, Shakespeare's English Kings: History, Chronicle, and Drama. Saccio did a superb set of lectures for The Teaching Company (now the Great Courses), back early in the years of the TC. In a combination I find too rare in Shakespeare commentators, he is authoritative, accessible, and enjoyable all at the same time. (Goddard is for me another with all three qualities.)
This is what I plan to use as I work through Shakespeare which is a kinda chronological order:http://web.archive.org/web/2008060501...
summarized in list form here:
https://orwhatyouwill.wordpress.com/r...
I started Hamlet a couple months back though and am struggling through it. Not because it's bad (it's seriously amazing) but because of its length and multiple versions and complexity. But after I finish it, I plan to go to the top of the list and tackle them in that order.
Yes I think Henry IV came later, the histories seem to go back and forth in time. I'll probably try to read them through in historical order too, as that makes more sense in my mind. I know somewhat about the kings and events from this period, as we studied them at school, though some are more familiar to me than others.Thanks for linking that book, I'll take a look at Sacco and Goddard.
James wrote: "This is what I plan to use as I work through Shakespeare which is a kinda chronological order:http://web.archive.org/web/2008060501...
summari..."
Thanks, I really liked that overview, very helpful. It is good to know that we can trace Shakespeare's maturation as an artist and a man through this sequence.
The DK book I've been reading The Shakespeare Book has been great for a basic analysis of each play. It also groups his work into three distinct periods -1589-1594 The Freelance Writer
1594-1603 The Lord Chamberlain's Man
1603-1613 The King's Man
It follows the same order of plays as listed here on Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronol...
When I first tackled all his works a few years back I did the histories in order of chronological plot, not the order in which he wrote them. I found it helped me appreciate them more, particularly the Henry plays. But that was just me. There are only a couple I have never read - and they are definitely his more obscure ones. If anyone wants to tackle those with me, let me know!
Well I've gotten basically nothing done on MoV due to getting stuck on The Odyssey. Must attempt to make another run at it after I get The Invisible Man and Without Mercy done.
So with Othello narrowly losing out on the December poll, who is still interested in a buddy read this month? I'm going to watch and read it probably mid November.
I have my copy and hope to start tomorrow.
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