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Jul 22, 2025 09:12PM
Well not giving up chocolate for sure. (view spoiler)[If it's microscopic pieces then it's just extra protein lol (hide spoiler)] I ate the insect powder bar just fine (was curious to try), I just have trouble with eating recognisable pieces lol. I am all for future with insect flour 🙃
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It's the recognizable bits, the texture, and the idea of eating something that has more body bits inside it that really squeamishes me out with edible insects... I've read that silkworms are a really good nutritious source considered for long space flights or living on the moon, and I had a student give me a lollipop with a bug in it as a souvenir once... I think I threw it away... I don't eat shellfish for the same reason...I'd probably be okay with flour though, too...
Anyone else just... not getting notifications the past few days? I had been away from Goodreads for so long, that I actually had forgotten about the regular glitching, and didn't think to manually check the threads until now.
Mel wrote: "Anyone else just... not getting notifications the past few days? I had been away from Goodreads for so long, that I actually had forgotten about the regular glitching, and didn't think to manually ..."You've been hit with the latest GoodReads glitch. If you check your profile page, the site thinks you haven't logged in since May. Iain figured out if you log out and back in again, it fixes things. It seems to happen roughly every 2 months whether you are logging in regularly or not.
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I think it's because Goodreads stopped randomly kicking you out and forcing a relog every 30-60 days?... I dunno...
But the second I get a suspiciously low amount of notifications, the first thing I check these days is my profile and when I supposedly was last active...
I'm surprised I haven't been hit with it yet... but I wonder if it's because I'm constantly having to log in on different computers?
Okay, thanks for the tip!I was a little nervous logging out, not wanting to get locked out again, but was able to log in again, so hopefully that'll fix things.
Nirkatze wrote: "I'm surprised I haven't been hit with it yet... but I wonder if it's because I'm constantly having to log in on different computers?"Probably. You show as "active this month" instead of May or earlier.
Do you all know if there is a way to custom set the notifications for our Fantasy Book Reads coming up? Those are the ones I'm getting bogged down with recently. Like "The group Fantasy Buddy Reads will start March to the Stars on xxx".
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There's a setting in profile -> preferences/settings -> notifications -> there's a link at the top that loads a new page with checkboxes, and group books starting is a checkbox...
I just found that for Yanique a few weeks ago...
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Mark Lawrence is running an interesting experiment on this blog to see how far AI has come in writing fiction. He's putting 4 accomplished authors vs ChatGPT in a flash fiction head-to-head and letting readers vote. Here's the link if you're interested:https://mark---lawrence.blogspot.com/...
That's pretty interesting... I took a look but didn't read any of the stories. I'd be curious to see the results. My cross-district training this past week was about AI: how to check if students are using it, how to use it responsibly and "be the human in the room," how the Chicago Sun-Times published a summer reading list that turned out to have been written by AI, and only 5 of the 15 books were real.... I've had multiple conversations on AI in just the past few days... it's all over the place right now...
I read them all. They're each around 350 words. I wrote down my thoughts so I can compare against his findings in a couple days. There were a couple that seemed more AI but might as well have been guesses.
I have read all and voted too. There were some that I was pretty certain were written by a human, one seemed very AI. Others were bit more tricky and the more of them I read the less sure I was about my previous choices. If I am wrong in some cases I hope it's at least those that I was not so sure about.
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It's definitely a creeping rot, seeping into everything... gotta be on the lookout...
The main problem, and easy to notice users, are the ones who just assume it will work... the ones who are gonna get away with it, are the ones that understand it's just a tool...
Like with writing... if you're gonna use AI to write a paper for you, you need to become the editor/proofreader... move a step up the book writing process...
Same with code-writing/debugging...
The problem is also that some times / most of the time, it would probably just be faster to do it yourself, if the AI isn't very good... from everything I've read, anyway, and see friends fiddling... I haven't interacted with AI much (unless you count AI comments on social media / etc, pretending to be real people)...
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Me and Tammie read The Twisted Women's Book Club, which was an anthology of short stories about book clubbers / aspiring authors, who all attended this one famous author's book club, and so many of the book clubbers were murderers in one way or another...
One story in the anthology was about a failing author who used AI to write an instant bestselling book, and then committed murder when it turned out the AI used an unpublished manuscript of another author's as the heavy basis for the book, that the author submitted to one of those plagiarism checking websites...
Mark Lawrence revealed who the human authors were and WOW! Nice little group he got to participate. He tallied the results:https://mark---lawrence.blogspot.com/...
I got two correct. Oy.
Pretty fascinating statistics there. And horrifying.
I managed to guess two to be human and one to be AI. I was so confident with the first and guess I was not alone lol. I am sad to say I guessed Mark Lawrence to be AI 🙃 at least I was not confident on that one... As for rating, I generally rated better the AI ones...
So only story I got right and liked both was by Robin Hobb. Next year I have to finally get to read her stuff.
I got 4 correct and I didn't get either Robin Hobb or Janny wurst right, and I really like their books :'(
I guessed Mark lawrence's one and rated the highest (alongside an AI one which I didn't guess....)
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I can see that--Wurts tends toward high level word choice...I definitely need a Hobbs reread...
Robin Hobb is my favorite. I might re read her books soon as I am book slumping hard. That mixed with a busy schedule. AI writing is so scary. Gosh.
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Maybe starting in April after Licanius? Either way I will be happy to join in. It's one of my top priority series to start. Not that it's wrong to have some top priority series saved for later day but I am happy to finally pick up some of them thanks to the BRs (The Sun Eater, Malazan). Although it's a shame I cannot keep up with all of them.The First Law and Wheel of Time in 2026/2027 anyone? :P
Also I have to go back and finish The Stormlight Archive at some point too...
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I never thought I'd read Wheel of Time a 2nd time, never mind a 3rd... and Nirkatze and Choko and a few others maybe, finished a re-read a year or 2 ago... not sure who else is up for those...
We should keep your nose to the grindstone on Malazan for the next 18-20 months before eyeing a Wheel of Time BR... since they're considered 2 similar longrunning epic fantasy series from the 90s...
Stormlight Archive, you have forever... books 6-10 aren't starting until 2030...
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I would be up to a BR of WoT, and maybe reread the first three books (the only ones I read). Same with First Law. I would reread them all and continue with the Age of madness that I haven't read yet.
For Hobb I didn't even finished the first trilogy but I loved the first two books. And I really wanted to reread and finish it since they have published the first trilogy in Spanish thia year with black and white illustrations! I just hope the rest gets released too, maybe if the sales are good they will
I guess after Malazan we can see if there is interest for WoT. Talking about long series I want to do a re-read (first 17 books) and continue reading Drizzt series. Idk if it's viable to BR the whole series as that would be going on for over three years 😅 But if anyone is interested to try... They are pretty fast reads at least.
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Me and Nirkatze have been reading Dune and Honor Harrington for 2 years and counting... Choko too, when chemo isn't breaking her concentration...
Me and Choko have been reading Warhammer for 2 years, and it'll take at least another 3-4 years with current plans...
Long BRs are possible, just unlikely...
Narilka wrote: "Mark Lawrence is running an interesting experiment on this blog to see how far AI has come in writing fiction. He's putting 4 accomplished authors vs ChatGPT in a flash fiction head-to-head and let..."Thanks for posting that Narilka! Shame I didn't get to actually vote but I still played it anyway.. I was pretty confident that I'd be able to tell which were AI from the off but I only got one right! And even worse, I actually super-enjoyed the AI stories and gave the author ones low ratings. :O Not happy about that at all. I do not for one second think that AI will replace human artistry. Arghhh!
Timelord Iain wrote: "I need to continue past the first Farseer trilogy someday... Restart wouldn't hurt either"You def do. The Tawny Man trilogy is def the best of the bunch.
Marie wrote: "Maybe starting in April after Licanius? Either way I will be happy to join in. It's one of my top priority series to start. Not that it's wrong to have some top priority series saved for later day ..."XD I'd be down for any of those. I agree with Iain though--probably a good idea not to load up on more chonker series until a few wind down... trying Hobb out after Licanius could be a good start. First Law after Sun Eater... WoT after Malazan...
It'd be fun to do a full Cosmere chronological read at some point too, while we're planning epics. Why stop at Stormlight? If we scheduled it right, we could potentially hit the Mistborn Era 3 releases and Stormlight 6... it'd take that long to get through it all at 1/month.
I'm the type of person who gets excited with that kind of long-term planning...
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Maybe even the Cosmere one... I re-read everything when the group did it a few years ago, and have been taking it easy on Sanderson ever since, but the right time to repeat that will come around again...
I would be up for whole Cosmere as I have stopped at Mistborn 4 and didn't pick up any of the secret projects... I was trying to read all along Stormlight Archive in publish order but early pregnancy put me in such a huge reading slump... I ended up reading Oathbringer for four months and was only one third in... That's why I gave up temporarily as I was starting to forget things.
I added pokes in my tracker for Hobb (April ish), First Law (post Sun Eater--could be Jan, could be April), WoT (Post Malazan (probably 2027)...Cosmere... if we wanted to do a full Cosmere read... there's a lot of suggested orders... But either starting with Mistborn or Elantris seems the most common... if folks want to do this, we should choose a start date...
Publication order would be good for Cosmere as it's the most spoiler free approach, with connections gradually increasing? It would mean jumping between series, though... might not be so bad to have some Mistborn era 2 in between chunky Stormlight Archive. Allows people to keep up better, especially if some could choose to join for only certain books/series.As for when to start, I would vote as early as possible as I am quite eager to go back to it and finish it up this time. Maybe also post Sun-Eater? But ofc I get if maybe you want to schedule it to continue with Mistborn era 3 right after, then it could also be post Malazan. If that's the case I guess I could do my read before that and join for a re-read lol.
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For avoiding spoilers, Sanderson has a recommended order that is supposedly most spoiler-free:1. Mistborn Trilogy Era 1
2. Elantris
3. The Emperor’s Soul
4. Mistborn: Secret History
5. Mistborn Era 2 (Wax and Wayne)
6. Tress of the Emerald Sea
7. Warbreaker
8. White Sand
9. Stormlight Archive #1-4
10. The Sunlit Man
11. Yumi and the Nightmare Painter
12. Wind and Truth [Stormlight Archive]
13. Isles of Emberdark
Personally, I'd like to do Elantris first, break up Mistborn a bit more, and do Sunlit Man after Wind and Truth... maybe do Warbreaker between Stormlight 1&2, White Sand before Secret History, Emperor's Soul before Wax & Wayne #4 and that before Wind & Truth... oh, and don't forget the shorts! Like this:
1. Elantris + The Hope of Elantris
2. Mistborn Trilogy Era 1: Mistborn: The Final Empire/The Well of Ascension/The Hero of Ages + The Eleventh Metal
3. White Sand
4. Mistborn: Secret History
5. Mistborn Era 2 (Wax and Wayne) #1-3: The Alloy of Law/Shadows of Self/The Bands of Mourning
6. Tress of the Emerald Sea
7. Stormlight Archive #1: The Way of Kings
8. Warbreaker
9. Stormlight Archive #2-4: Words of Radiance/Edgedancer/Oathbringer/Dawnshard/Rhythm of War
10. The Emperor's Soul
11. Mistborn Era 2 #4: The Lost Metal
12. Stormlight Archive #5: Wind and Truth
13. The Sunlit Man
14. Yumi and the Nightmare Painter
Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell
15. Isles of the Emberdark
And if we hit Mistborn Era 3, we hit it. I'm also cool with moving some of the solos around to break up big things, but I there are some spots where spoilers or reminders are pretty good, I think... like putting Emperor's Soul before Lost Metal, or Warbreaker in the middle of Stormlight... Elantris could probably fit anywhere before Tress, and Tress could probably go anywhere before Isles...
I'd be willing to start in Jan or Dec... maybe around the 20th... Dragonlance is winding down soon...
Marie wrote: "I would be up for whole Cosmere as I have stopped at Mistborn 4 and didn't pick up any of the secret projects... I was trying to read all along Stormlight Archive in publish order but early pregnan..."I stopped after Mistborn 4, have read only Tress of the Emerald Sea from secret projects.
I missed the group BRs of Stormlight.. so re-reading by myself and tossed around Oathbringer for 5 months.. (should've finished in a few days ideally). I have decided not to do the same with Dawnshard and Rhythm of War. So, that i finally get to Wind & Truth.. it feels like i waited Sanderson to close this for years.. and I'm delaying reading so it doesn't end. :D
I might not join for a Cosmere re-read (but i love love love the planning). I will join for WoT(read till book 3) and First Law (first time read for me).
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I like this reading order alot, honestly... I think you'd start with Elantris in January 2026, pause just before Stormlight and start that in January 2027, and be almost done by Spooktober 2027... if you sought breaks during Stormlight, the ending Secret Projects would move to early 2028... either skipping months, or just trying short non-Cosmere stuff like that non-Cosmere Secret Project, for a fun interlude during an off-month...
Glad to get some excite for this... I'm thinking that Secret History might need to move to between Wax & Wayne #1&2... I think the connection is in #2 rather than #1...
Tress I'm not sure about--except that Sanderson put it before Warbreaker.
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also, does it have connections to Elantris or Warbreaker?... I always forget which book world (view spoiler)
I also like to read Shadow of Silence in the Forests of Hell first, not because there's any connections, really... just because Nazh is from there... but I see why you put it where you did...
I don't believe Secret History has connections to other worlds--(view spoiler)And I found Mistborn connection in Era 2 and took a quick peek through it again... I guess it could go anywhere between Era 1 ending and Era 2 #3. Probably best after Era 1, to get those connections closer, but after White Sand...
Silence is short enough to read it anywhere and read it again. :)
Mitali wrote: "Marie wrote: "I would be up for whole Cosmere as I have stopped at Mistborn 4 and didn't pick up any of the secret projects... I was trying to read all along Stormlight Archive in publish order but..."I also stopped after Mistborn 4 and read Oathbringer for like 4 months before deciding I better start over 😅
Read no secret projects but have read Elantris and Warbreaker. And three novellas.
The reading order seems great. I leave it to your recommendation when it comes to shoving in the the free standing stuff for connection purposes. I did hear about The Lost Metal being super heavy on Cosmere stuff so makes sense to push it later and that many people would have preferred to get to Sunlit Man only after Wind and Truth. I will have to be patient with getting to Stormlight Archive again but well, can always start slow re-read early to scratch the itch and then be back on track with Oathbringer.
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