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Princep's Fury (Codex Alera #5) by Jim Butcher [Start Date: February 15th, 2016]
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I know the feeling!


I just got that from the library and plan to start it today, but wanted to get a start on Princep first. Was it up to the usual standard?
Princep really starts with military drama. Lot's of action and the stakes are hiked up really high now.


I just got that from the library and plan to start it today, but wanted to get a start on ..."
Brotherhood was great! A lot of emotions and character depth. It was very gruesome though. I gave it 5 stars .

P.S.I liked Max's father I didn't think I would before getting into his head.

That's good to know about Brotherhood. I started reading it but haven't gotten very far yet. So far no body...

Gaius's plan to send Isana to form a truce with the Icemen and Amara and Bernard to find the reason for their fury crafting sounds a bit crazy and impossible to achieve but I'm sure both group would be successful.
Not much from Tavi so far, it seems he made a mistake by leaving Alera.

Gaius's plan to send Isana to form a truce with the Icemen and Amara and Bernard to find the ..."
It comes from when Amara and Bernard had their run-in when Doroga came to get them in the Calderon Valley. Remember, the Vord had taken over humans and then saw Bernard's troops using fury craft. What's new is that they can use it without being in a human body.
Of course, it's possible that you don't have to be human to fury craft. Kitai can too. Yes, she's connected to Tavi, but there's likely more to it than that. Plus, like their beliefs about their history, I suspect there is a lot they believe erroneously.
And, wow, just go ahead and tell Amara and Bernard that they're being sent on a suicide mission. Nice.

LOL"
Just wait until the scene when Tavi finds out what his nickname means. It's priceless.

Tavi will find a way to defeat the Vord! I'm sure :D



WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTT?"
Which chapter is that? I should go get my hardcopy so I can keep up with the action in other chapters.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTT?"
Which chapter is that? I should go get my hardcopy so I can keep up with the action in other chapters."
Envidia Aquitaine with the Vord queen!!!!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTT?"
Which chapter is that? I should go get my hardcopy so I can keep up with the action in other chapters."
Env..."
Oh yeah. Of course she shows up again. We knew she got away, and she's completely amoral. But, I agree, this is particularly nasty of her.




Isn't that awesome? It was so funny!

I know! It made me squirm. I was tempted to stop listening or fast forward.

Hmm, it made sense at the time, now I can't find where that incident was described. Ugh, I can't remember what that was about.

A few things that I've been thinking about : Is aquatain going to give up something he has worked for for years when Tavi gets back? It seems very unlikely!
What was in that letter that Gauis left for him?
Alera is a Great fury, isn't she? Can Tavi get the other Gauis's furies? Or are they lost forever?
Tavi don't have much fury crafting, is Alera going to help him with that? Does he have control over her?
They left a queen with a huge army of Vord in Canim land. What's there to stop her from moving to Alera?
That Juris Macto over Valis Marcus is still bothering me.
Do you think Tavi knows that Marcus is not who he says he is? I'm sure he doesn't know that he is Phidelias!
Are the Alerans going to accept Kitai as first lady?

I hope Caria gets what she deserves for poisoning Gauis for years.
I knew Gaius was going to die in this book but I still didn't like it. I wanted a final meeting between him and Tavi.
How do you think Alerans are going to react to the return of the Canim? They have to share their land with them now.

A few things that I've been thinking about : "
So many good questions! Well, here are some quick thoughts I had:
Is Aquataine going to give up something he has worked for for years when Tavi gets back? It seems very unlikely! I agree, it's very unlikely. He's spent too much time scheming to just let go of his plans and believe someone he doesn't know could do better.
What was in that letter that Gauis left for him? Good question. Maybe something about how the furies and the Great Furies work?
Alera is a Great fury, isn't she? Can Tavi get the other Gauis's furies? Or are they lost forever? I rather wonder if she isn't THE Great Fury. And I wonder at what the relationship between humans and furies really is. The conversation Ehren overheard made it sound like the furies have a choice, and that they've worked with others. And now we've seen that they work with the Ice Men. It will be interesting to see what Tavi does, and how much fury crafting comes to him. Since Alera did, it seems like it's likely that he can inherit, as others have.
Tavi don't have much fury crafting, is Alera going to help him with that? Does he have control over her? Well, Tavi has a really different take on these things, doesn't he? He certainly isn't going to take Alera for granted. I hope that he can learn from her.
They left a queen with a huge army of Vord in Canim land. What's there to stop her from moving to Alera? Well, they don't have ships or know how to sail. But, wouldn't a Vord Kraken be an awful thing?
That Juris Macto over Valis Marcus is still bothering me. I know it was mentioned at some point, but can't remember when.
Do you think Tavi knows that Marcus is not who he says he is? I'm sure he doesn't know that he is Phidelias! I'm not sure he does. Marcus channels his role as First Spear so thoroughly.
Are the Alerans going to accept Kitai as first lady? Well, that's a huge question, isn't it?

I hope Caria gets what she deserves for poisoning Gauis for years.
I knew Gaius was going to die in this book but I still didn't like it. I wanted a final meeting between him and Tavi.
How do you think Alerans are going to react to the return of the Canim? They have to share their land with them now."
You are likely right about Masha. Wasn't Caria still in Alera Imperium when it blew? I thought maybe she went up with it. I agree that I wanted a final meeting between Gaius and Tavi. Tavi has been so on his own and has so many questions. And I can't think that the Alerans will welcome the Canim. But, things are so unsettled, they may just be happy for some stability to return, even if it looks different.

Butcher is really good at keeping all of these strings taut and alive across the series.

That's exactly what I was thinking about! They can make creatures that can fly , they probably can make creatures that can swim!

Woohoo thanks :D
Has Phidelias always been Valiar Marcus or has there been an original Valiar Marcus and Phidelas replaced him?

Will you read the last one with us?

That's exactly what I was thinking about! They can make creatures that can fly , they p..."
Maybe they learn from the people they are attacking. If none are water people, I guess that would limit them. They don't seem to do much engineering--mostly it's biological, but not structural. The vord buildings seem to stay the same.

Fidelias was Marcus early on. So, he is the same person who served so heroically in the past. There were one or two memories he had in Cursor that made this clear.

Ah ok thanks.
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The dreaded Vord - the enemy of Aleran and Cane alike - have spent the last three years laying waste to the Canim homeland. And when the Alerans are cut off from their ships, they find themselves with no choice but to fight shoulder to shoulder if they are to survive.
For a thousand years, Alera and her furies have withstood every enemy, and survived every foe.
The thousand years are over…
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