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Where do you think the unknown location will be in CoHF?
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Laura Jayne
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Apr 22, 2014 08:54AM
It's like watching him go through Will's pain and frustration all over again, but with his descendant :(
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Yes :( which is sad considering Jem always expacted to go first... But here he is...out living Will... It wold be really hard on him
Oh! Poor Jem I hope he can with all this... He is Jem of course he can handle a Herondale! What would be for Jace meet Jem and he telling him: "I was the Parabatai of your greatgreatgreat-grandfather"
I think they will talk an awful lot about parabatai :) He'll tell him how lucky he is to have Alec and that he misses Will! :(
But I'm sure it was said that Cassie said that someone will find out what it's like to lose a parabatai …
What?!? Oh no! I only can think about Jace and Alec and that can't happen! Okay, it can happen just... I can't even... *drops to the floor and starts to cry*
Well Alec does say this; it could be plausible :( which could lead onto the other quote about time together? "I always thought I was happy being the dark star to your supernova. I mean, you have the angels gift. I could train and train... I'd never be you." - Alec Lightwood
It doesn't mean that one would have to die to know what it feels like though, does it?We already know Jace doesn't die, but that doesn't mean Alec dies.
He could very well become immortal.
So sad... Or maybe Alec becomes a vampire or something else to be immortal like Magnus... Maybe by dead they mean vampire-dead.
I still have hope... And by losing his Parabatai it means they can't be shadowhunters together.
I don't think he'd become a vampire. Camille already offered him that, and he rejected.
I know, it's just I can't think of him dead it would be the end of Malec and that's not going to happen... right? Right? (if that happens I'm going to die, not that anyone care), also Jace would be like crazy if he lose Alec, he already have lost so much...
No no no... I can't deal with Alec as a vampire- Jace wouldn't be allowed to torment Simon anymore, because Alec is one.
I'd love for Alec to become immortal, but I'm having my fingers crossed for both becoming mortal- then something bad happening :(
I think Jem might explain his loss of Will as his parabatai to bring Jace and Alec closer. So they don't ever have to go through what Jem & Will did.
Plus we get to find out why/how Jace & Alec became parabatai :)
OMG! I've been waiting that for a long long time! I need more Parabatai bonding!!!!
I'm looking forward to seeing how they ended up together. If it's anything like Jem & Will- I will be a blubbering wreck. "I'll train with you."
I've just read something that has really sparked my interest. There is 6 people on the inside in the book jacket two of which are Alec and Isabelle (revealed today)What if those 6 characters in the jacket are the 6 to die & the jacket is a memorial kind of thing? :(
Oh, when I read the Clockwork Princess prologue, I was laugh-crying. Will firing insults at Jem; Jem kicking his ass and striking the knife at its target; and then Will's like "You're not really dying, are you?"They were like brothers!
Oh my God!
I was just going to say 'What if Alec becomes an Iron Sister?' And I just started laughing at my own idiocy.
MortalAcademy wrote: "I've just read something that has really sparked my interest. There is 6 people on the inside in the book jacket two of which are Alec and Isabelle (revealed today)What if those 6 characters in t..."
I've seen that. But who are the other four?
Well one looks like his arms falling off on the far right :') I am guessing Simon for him. Along with Luke too :)
Also out of context- but don't you think Isabelle looks like Lara Croft :') in the newest game or is it just me? :')
I'm reading City of Glass at the minute and I've come across something! Jace says to Sebastian:
“Waiting for a special occasion to kill me? Christmas is coming.”
City of Heavenly Fire is set around Christmas time!
I know you have discussed this before but I would like to go into more depth considering the 2 marriages. OK, that just sounds too formal. So, who do uou think are the 2 couples that will marry. I just think Jocelyn and Luke is too predictable but not everything has to be unexpected I guess... What do you think?
Everyone is saying that either Jocelyn or Luke will die (or both!) so I think that if that were to happen they should at least have the wedding...
Oh and I know what the last word I the book will be...It's 'fall'
You have to remember though- people could still get married and then die. They don't need to die before hand.
I think it'll be Luke & Jocelyn
Tessa & Jem
Isabelle & Simon
I'd like to say Malec- but 733 pages isn't enough to describe a very extravagant Magnus style wedding :')
I've just noticed something. In the photo of Magnus manacled up, with Raphael and Luke in the same room.
Haven't you noticed they are all wearing shirts and trousers- even Magnus is wearing a tie.
It would be understandable in TID, but in TMI it's a more modern time.
What if they were at a WEDDING when Magnus was taken, and they went after him?
Hence the way they are dressed?!?
Maybe Magnus and Alec get married in secret, and the Clave find out, and then they crash the wedding and chain them up because gay relationships are forbidden?Are gay relationships forbidden?
They frown upon it, plus it's like a shadowhunter and a downworlder. They might have a bitch about it?!
I hope they actual got married! Before they snatched him away!
And I hope Alec goes on a rampage if it's true!
I think gay relationships are not forbidden, but no one talks about it when someone is gay.I also think you have to ask the clave or something like that to have a wedding between a shadowhunter and a downworlder.
I will love a Malec wedding!
Maybe it's not necessarily a Malec wedding it could be any wedding.
Maybe Jocelyn's and Luke's or Clace wedding or Jaia wedding or Sizzy wedding...
And be interrupt when someone notices that Magnus is missing or someone take him in the middle of the wedding (I bet is The Clave)
They've definitely come from somewhere formal! I know Magnus has exquisite fashion sense- but it's usually tight pants and colourful clothing. He's all dressed up and locked up.
I think a wedding has been crashed by the clave for whatever reason. Then taken the downworlders.
Maybe Magnus is the only one chained because he could magic them out.
Maybe the bars of the cell has religious markings and are made of silver?
OMG! I haven't thought that! But it has so much sense! But why do they lock them up? They're good person! Well at least Magnus and Luke...
The accords I think are die to be signed again. Plus Inquisitor Aldertree died- there will be a new one. Remember how he treated Simon- I don't think the new one will be much better?
Also, if the accords are changed- maybe the covenant law for downworld has gotten more strict?
Damn it! This is going to be bad! Yeah, I think it's the accords maybe that's when Tessa comes in...
There you go then. Robert Lightwood is a bastard- he frowns upon downworlders, hates his son being gay, cheated on his wife. I'm pretty sure he will be a dickhead of an inquisitor :')
Have you noticed that all the Inquisitors' are psychopaths?It's like they have their own race.
Dammit, Will! I told you not to feed them poultry pies!
They are senior psychopaths! They are most definitely their own race- Herondale: she was like Gretchen from mean girls when she finally snaps shouting "YOU CANT SIT WITH US"
Aldertree: he was like working on both sides if psycho street! One minute nicey-nice, next minute growling and baring his false teeth (I'm assuming here! ) :')
Then Lightwood: he's like one of those politicians you want to kick in the balks really hard, because they just ramble on about stupid things. That have no meaning, except to themselves :')
"You'll fall in love with the wrong person." Dorethea told Jace & Clary that, but it was never deciphered- we all assume it's Jace for her.
What if it's finally shed light on in CoHF? :)
I knew it! I always knew Jace had a secret crush on Simon!
Lmfao! You can just imagine it now- Clary & Simon fighting over Jace- the boy would be in heaven! :') But seriously- I think the Seelie Queen is going to do something to Clary for turning down her favour/offer thing!
Also, I think she wants Meliorn in the council so he can spy for her- but he not know that she's working for/with Sebastian??
Haha. And then Izzy and Jace will be tearing each other's throats out, and then Alec will kill Jace with a spoon or something for hitting Izzy, and then Magnus will spank Alec for being a naughty boy, and then Magnus's father will spank Magnus for spanking Alec …
Meliorn got a place in the council eventually. And he does know of the Queen and Sebastian's plans, because Meliorn and Sebastian talk in CoLS.
Yes... Although I can very much imagine Magnus taking a lot if pleasure from spanking Alec... :') ^^^ this is why I need to re-read! I forget these things!
I say the two are in cohoots with Sebastian then and it's like Malachai all over again. Except he got took down by a bloody bird :')
I hated that stupid bird for trying to claw Clary's eyes out when Hodge gave Jace over to Valentine, but I liked him for just that moment when he killed Malachi, who, let's face it, was going to rape Clary. Apparently he was going to teach her something - and then Hugo comes swooping down like a knight in shining armour and saves her.I'm surprised Clary didn't fall in love with the pigeon, because he did save her …
"Fall in love with the Pigeon" you made me think of Draco Malfoy with Buckbeak! :') But I agree- I'm glad Hugin did right by his masters daughter.
Yes I agree with your theory- they very well could be linked together.
Something got me thinking yesterday- when Valentine met Raziel the angel said to him " Do you intend to challenge heaven like that other morning star whose name you bear, shadowhunter?"
Does that mean someone else who was a Morgenstern challenged heaven or someone else called Valentine?
What if the other "Valentine" was a angel, that got wronged or cast out?
I'm not sure if they're linked though. The final instalment was originally going to be City of Glass, I think, so I'm not sure if the first and second sequel are connected, because the second sequel adapted to a whole new storyline with an entirely new villain.
I think if there's going to be any clues as to what happens in CoHF, you'll find them in TID. Like Sebastian's silver ring that allows him to travel to another dimension if he twisted it - that was mentioned in TID.
City of Glass would of been such a beautiful ending. Ending in fireworks is lovely :) But instead... We got a crazy ass lady with freaky eyes, a crazy ass demon boy, a floating bubble as I called it, Simon fighting with women! :')
I'm at a crossroads with this. I wanted the series to finish at City of Glass because then no 'beloved characters' would have to die.
But then I'm glad it didn't finish then, because I honestly have no idea what I'd do without these books.
Oh, and of course, Sebastian would remain dead. That is another reason why …
It would of been lovely for it to end there. But I'm curious of what Magnus and Tessa were talking about
I'm curious about how the Seelie Queen will deal with Clary turning down her favour/offer.
Then obviously- Sebastian just dissapearing- you never turn you're back on you're enemy before you know they can't come back.
Although- I am glad it wasn't the end because we got to see Simon have women trouble. :')
I feel as though the writing style of the second sequel changed as well. It seemed more … grownup? The characters would have blossomed a lot since then, though. At first it was just Clary and Simon being their immature selves at Pandemonium and attempting to look a part of the big world, and now they're, like, saving the bloody world. And all over the space of six months as well …
Maybe Magnus and Tessa were discussing Jem?
I don't know what else there is for those two to bond over. I guess we'll find out in The Last Hours.
In City of Fallen Angels Kaelie gave Clary a summoning bell thingie, and Clary later used it in City of Lost Souls to ask if the Queen would find Jace. Which then led to the Queen asking of a favour in return.
Sebastian made that mistake in City of Glass when he turned his back on Jace, and he pierced his spine and killed him.
I'm hoping he's learnt from that mistake …
Yeah, Simon, at first, never came across as a guy who'd have a girlfriend. No offense to the guy, but he just seemed too immature for him to be able to take a relationship seriously.
He's grown up a lot since then …
I've noticed that about that writing too, it's developed loads- along with the characters- it proves that shadowhunters really do grow up fast, like you said over a 6 month period. Then in 6 months, 6 people die...
Yeah, maybe Jem knows something about something and sent Tessa to tell Magnus! :) I can't wait for The Last Hours, I'm more excited for that, than TDA.
Well I just thought up a theory and put in on tumblr- Alec says about the queen doing what they want and they'd let her live- 'her' doesn't specifically mean the queen. What if they take so wine hostage- it could be Kaelie?
Yes, it's be ironic if that's how Jace died mind- the same lesson they both got taught- just Sebastian waited till CoHF to do it back..
I love Simon for those exact reasons- girls aren't his main priority- Clary and his family is. I love that he's grown up, but I miss the boy who came into the apartment saying he and Jesus had the quote the resemblance! :)
So I love Simon- but him and Isabelle suit more than him and Maia.
