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Is this a series?
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https://www.goodreads.com/series/2746..."
Hard to know if there are any characters in common. There certainly could be.
rivka wrote: "Christmas Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "Pretty sure this isn't a series by GR standardshttps://www.goodreads.com/series/2746..."
Hard to know if there are any characters in common. T..."
I'll defer to your judgement! I have placed one book on one of my to-read lists, but don't know when I will get to it.
Christmas Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "rivka wrote: "Christmas Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "Pretty sure this isn't a series by GR standardshttps://www.goodreads.com/series/2746..."
Hard to know if there are any character..."
Based on the reviews (and blurb of Love & Other Detours: Love & Gelato; Love & Luck). The first two books share characters (the heroines are best friends), but the 3rd book has no common characters with the first 2 books.
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rivka wrote: "Definitely has no common characters, or none of the reviews happen to mention any?"A couple of the reviews mention that the MCs from the first 2 make no appearance in the 3rd (directly comment on the lack of those characters). There might be other things to tie book 3 to the series, but I didn't see any mention.
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Book #3 is not part of the series: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...Series in question: https://www.goodreads.com/series/5114...
Would this be considered a series or an imprint?https://www.goodreads.com/series/2744...
Based on books by Vi Keeland & Penelope Ward. Does have some crossover characters from their books, but they are all from different books and different series. Also, there are different romance genres: contemporary, historical and paranormal (that I've noticed so far).
Before I move the series to a list I wanted to be sure.
Leila wrote: "Would this be considered a series or an imprint?https://www.goodreads.com/series/2744...
Based on books by Vi Keeland & Penelope Ward. Does have some crossover characters from the..."
I think there is an implied place/setting (club) that keeps it a series.
The Cocky Hero Club is comprised of original works of fiction written about the Cocky Bastard series characters and/or in the story settings. Writers may maintain the original authors' characters and settings or add their own.
From: http://www.cockyheroclub.com/submissi...
But I don't know, it looks like more of an imprint than a series.
Sounds like they share same world and possibly characters? If so, I believe that means it's a series.
Sounds like it's like the Kindle World concept. Where authors were allowed to write using/based off the previously published works (plot, setting, characters) of another author. This would mean, then, that there are shared characters, backplots that might be common to all books, shared universe/worldbuilding, etc. Their original characters are their own, but they often used copyrighted (but allowed by the author) characters as well.
If that's what is occurring here, then it seems more series than imprint?
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Though the paranormal and historical might be different enough to be removed?
Unless someone reads all the contemporary ones, it'd be hard to just look and know if there aren't shared characters and such.
Mantvydas wrote: "Leila wrote: "Would this be considered a series or an imprint?https://www.goodreads.com/series/2744...
Based on books by Vi Keeland & Penelope Ward. Does have some crossover chara..."
Based on what I've found, it looks like they don't all share a setting and/or characters:
https://www.agrandromance.com/cocky-h...
https://www.maryse.net/reading-order-...
*Specifically the note about the Cocky Duke, says it's a "retelling of Aubrey and Chance’s sizzling romance but set in London, early 1800’s”
Some clearly are the same world/characters, and there might be a case for creating individual series based on the original book it was based on, but I'm not sure it's enough to be considered an overall series by GR policy
https://www.goodreads.com/series/3052... ?See #39-40 of the "series", a work with many editions, I don't believe this is a series
RE: the Cocky Hero Club seriesI asked about the Cocky Hero Club series when it first started being released as I didn't believe it qualified as a series under GR guidelines. It was discussed in detail, but I never got a definitive answer, so I left it. Here's the thread:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Miriam wrote: "*Specifically the note about the Cocky Duke, says it's a "retelling of Aubrey and Chance’s sizzling romance but set in London, early 1800’s”Found this: https://agrandromance.com/cocky-hero-...
The Cocky Hero Club series of books is based on the world created by the original books but are complete stand alone’s and do not have to be read in any particular order. Each book is a different take on the original series and is not connected to any of the other books in the Cocky Hero Club in any way.
For instance in one book that will mention Chance and Aubrey they will have had opened up an animal rescue in a certain part of California and Chance will be a soccer coach. In another book it might be along the same idea but they will be in a different state and Chance will have a different occupation. Each author in the Cocky Hero Club is just taking the original ideas and expanding on it into something new and original for them. So, there is, in fact, no reading order to the Cocky Hero Club series of books.
Based on that I think it's not a series.
I'm the worst at non fiction series but I don't think this is one.https://www.goodreads.com/series/2876...
I think it is an imprint.
Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "I'm the worst at non fiction series but I don't think this is one.https://www.goodreads.com/series/2876...
I think it is an imprint."
Looks like an imprint to me.
Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "I'm the worst at non fiction series but I don't think this is one.https://www.goodreads.com/series/2876...
I think it is an imprint."
I'd go with imprint as well.
Sandra wrote: "Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "I'm the worst at non fiction series but I don't think this is one.https://www.goodreads.com/series/2876...
I think it is an impr..."
Thanks Camilla & Sandra
Another Librarian told me privately that she thinks its an imprint, but she did emphasise that non-fiction series aren't her specialist subject!
Does anyone(s) want to make a list. There are 350 books so it would need at least 4 librarians to be interested.
https://www.goodreads.com/series/2132...I'm not very familiar with the Marvel Universe so not sure if these are all connected.
Camilla wrote: "Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "I'm the worst at non fiction series but I don't think this is one.https://www.goodreads.com/series/2876...
I think it is an imprint."
Looks like an imprint to me."
I'm no expert, but I thought that non-fiction series with the series name and number on the cover of each volume (as appears to be the case here, having looked at a sample rather than all 357 volumes) was at least part of the distinction between series and (generally unnumbered) imprint, no?
Hi KeithI'm not sure either & the manual doesn't mention this.
Numbers 1 & 2 are unnumbered. No 3 in this series has number 1 on the book, Number 5 I can't read the number. I checked on some at random & the numbering seems to match the books.
Lieke wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/series/2132...I'm not very familiar with the Marvel Universe so not sure if these are all connected."
I'm not sure either Lieke, but on the face of it, I'd say no.
Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "Hi KeithI'm not sure either & the manual doesn't mention this.
Numbers 1 & 2 are unnumbered. No 3 in this series has number 1 on the book, Number 5 I can't read the number. I checked on some at ..."
I've talked to some experienced librarians who don't think the numbering makes a difference & gave Time Life books & Harlequin (fiction) as examples. I guess the main thing to consider is would all editions be considered a series if some were published by a different publisher?
But I don't want to recreate a series with this many books if I am wrong, so I'm going to leave this. :)
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Well, it's sort of a part of the distinction. The first test I do on possible non-fiction series is: do all the editions of each work fit into this series? A "no" answer is a quick way to rule it out as meeting Goodreads criteria for being a series.
However, a "yes" answer only means you need to look at the books closer, to see what they have in common. It is definitely not enough on its own to determine that they are a series.
In this case, it seems like many of the works could easily be republished -- with little or no change to anything but the cover and publisher -- by a different publisher, under a different imprint.
Thanks rivka (& everyone else for your input.)I'll resume asking if anyone wants to make a list out of this.
If no response in a week or so I'll put in the Looking for a Project thread.
Is this a series https://www.goodreads.com/series/2469...About threeseomes & all set in the same small town but are there any characters in common?
Sherry wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/series/309216?"I'm not sure. Also not sure if these are books. Look like recordings of a radio programme to me.
Could someone else give an opinion?
Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "Is this a series https://www.goodreads.com/series/2469...About threeseomes & all set in the same small town but are there any characters in common?"
Based on a review, the heroine in book 3 was a side-character in book 1.
This clearly does not qualify as a series under GR rules (at least not as I understand them):https://www.goodreads.com/series/1147...
What do we do with that? Just delete the series record? It doesn't seem worthy even of a list.
I can't add a new series.I've only add the name of the series in the title of the book, but it isn't present in the goodreads database.
Please could you add "The magic's genesis" series to my 2 books?
GEMINI #1
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...
THE INVISIBLE EYE #2
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...
Omar wrote: "I can't add a new series.I've only add the name of the series in the title of the book, but it isn't present in the goodreads database.
Please could you add "The magic's genesis" series to my 2 bo..."
Hi Omar
This isn't the correct thread to ask this. This thread is for librarians & other members to query existing series.
Please delete your post & start a new thread.
I think this is a publishers series and should be removed. But want to get another opinion(s) before doing so.PM's Outspoken Authors Series
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PM's Outspoken Authors Series"
I think this one is ok. They are connected by significantly more than a theme, and you could not easily take one of them and just pop them into another similar imprint.
Hi, I have posted a request in the series section of this group and have been trying to analyse why it got a lot of views but no response. - And I think part of the problem might be that, like me, people are not quite sure where it goes: The thing is actually a complete edition of Plato in 10 volumes. It has, besides the individual book titles, a title for the complete set: "Platon: Sämtliche Werke in zehn Bänden". And then it goes on each volume "Sämtliche Werke I", sämtliche Werke II", etc.
This is why I figured the individual books should probably get the additional series title.
Here is the first book as I tried to set it up, although I encountered some difficulties:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...
It would be nice if someone could check on this to tell me whether this belongs in the series section, or whether this is categorized as something else.
Here is also the first book an amazon:
https://www.amazon.de/Protagoras-Apol...
I could not find the complete edition on amazon, I think no one is selling it all together at the moment.
Thank you very much!
This appears to be fairytale retellings - which often aren't a series on GR. Anyone familiar with these works?https://www.goodreads.com/series/1623...
#941I have looked at the Villains series before thinking I would delete it, but this paragraph is in one of the book descriptions, showing that it is about recurring characters.
Throughout the Villains series, the Odd Sisters have meddled in the lives of the Wicked Queen, The Beast, Ursula, Maleficent, and Mother Gothel, changing the course of fate for the greatest villains ever known. Now, it's time for their reckoning.
Emily wrote: "I have looked at the Villains series before thinking I would delete it, but this paragraph is in one of the book descriptions. Throughout the Villains series, the Odd Sisters have meddled in the l..."
Cool! I will leave it alone then. I'll add that quote to the series description.
In 940, Lilly wrote: "Hi, I have posted a request in the series section of this group and have been trying to analyse why it got a lot of views but no response. - And I think part of the problem might be that, like me, ..."The one you linked to looked right to me: number in the title, but not added to a Series page because it does not meet the GR definition of a Series (i.e., and of those works could be, and have been, packaged in different combinations and orders with different numbering in near-infinite variety).
In #944 Keith wrote: "The one you linked to looked right to me: number in the title, but not added to a Series page because it does not meet the GR definition of a Series (i.e., and of those works could be, and have been, packaged in different combinations and orders with different numbering in near-infinite variety)."Thank you very much, Keith :)
So what do you propose I should do about it? Just leave the collection numbering in the title? Or is there an official way to mark a complete edition?
Lilly wrote: "So what do you propose I should do about it? Just leave the collection numbering in the title? Or is there an official way to mark a complete edition?"IMO, you've already fulfilled your duty on that one, but I'm no authority. If you feel like it, you could create a list for them, but I don't expect that would be particularly useful to anyone, and you're under no obligation at all. If you do decide to create a list, I'd recommend checking the "Static list" box so it doesn't accumulate unrelated cruft.
Keith wrote: "Lilly wrote: "So what do you propose I should do about it? Just leave the collection numbering in the title? Or is there an official way to mark a complete edition?"IMO, you've already fulfilled ..."
Keith, thank you for all the help again :)
I'll just leave it at that then ... I guess a list is not really needed here. But I'm feeling better now that I know what to do with this collection :)
My usual disclaimer about not being too good with non fiction series - & I speak very little Germanhttps://www.goodreads.com/series/1077...--
Seems more like a publisher imprint.
If it is a series I'm going to query the series name being started with punctuation.
Mantvydas wrote: "Is this a series? https://www.goodreads.com/series/3089..."
It's difficult for me to be certain without being able to read Polish, but from what I can tell of library records, this does appear to meet the Goodreads definition of a non-fiction series. (If these are fiction, which they do not seem to be, then I don't think it would meet the fiction-series criteria, but that is even more difficult to determine without knowing the language.)
EDIT: I take that back—judging from the fact that Planet of Slums was first published in English outside of that Polish series, this would NOT qualify as a non-fiction series, and should at best be treated as a publisher's imprint (which I believe means series title optionally in parentheses in the Title field, and a Listopia created if someone wants to retain the collection in an accessible form and feels like putting in the work).
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