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Is this a series?
#453-454Wikipedia:
"The novels do not share any characters and do not form a strict chronological series; the later novels are not sequels to the earlier ones. Yet together they form an expanded story arc of space exploration."
Space exploration is a theme, not a series in my opinion. I think these books belong in a listopia, but not in a Goodreads series.
Also, I don't see anything that suggests the translated editions were published in the same series.
About the Heinlein series:I'm not sure that "All editions are part of this series" actually applies here.
Also, having read a good number of those books, I wouldn't even say they are the same "world". I can't remember them having anything other than the genre to tie them together.
I would second the listopia, not series opinion
#453-455. Hi Lethe. There might be a common theme but the books are also in a shared universe and from the way I read the manual, that is enough for books to qualify as series.
Here is the wikipedia page about the Russian translation of the second book: Вторая книга автора из серии романов для юношества. (Google traslate)
I disagree that this is an imprint but the decision is not mine.
#453-457 Hi Ellie, I agree with Miriam, who posted just before you did.I don't see the shared universe. Just because they all take place in space is not enough to call them a series (Dickens' Christmas Books are not a series either). Even the title (Juveniles) does not sound like a series according to Goodreads, just that he wrote these books with a young audience in mind.
(signing off for the day - I had planned to have an early night, ahahaha)
This argument's been raging since at least Usenet days, and probably a good while before :)RAH considered them a "set", at least the first 12, but I doubt even he intended them to be specifically a series. Also they were commissioned work, And almost all of his books share links, the way Steven King's are all a little intertwined (and set in essentially the same universe), but I doubt anyone considers those a series. The shout-outs between books are more along the lines of easter eggs for faithful fans.
I do disagree they are an imprint (although the original editions were commissioned and published by one publisher, they've been republished many times since).
The main problem is that if it's removed to a Listopia it'll be back in a day or two at most. Some sleeping dogs are best left to lie.
that (although it's quite big already) is not a series?! https://www.goodreads.com/series/1963...(as it's so big I'm just hesitating to delete it without asking - although I'm quite sure)
edit: and perhaps it's more clever to leave it for the moment and bring it to the projects - for the removing of the "little golden books" out of title the series list isn't that bad I assume (should probably go to the edition field?)
The Bible is considered a series? https://www.goodreads.com/series/2034... (if shouldn't it not be divided in old and new testament? because pre jesus birth could be considered a kind of different universe?)and I'm really doubting that the "all editions" rule applies here https://www.goodreads.com/series/9888... and that's a series in general (even without the "all edition" rule) but I have no clue about comics/graphic novels and perhaps they are at least listopia worthy?
that shouldn't be one? https://www.goodreads.com/series/6621... the more important question is: how could Dumbo get into that series? and the royal family? sounds like weird cooking habits ;)
oh the Royal Family book is in some ...at least questionable series... (even if the series are legitimate, how did it end up there? didn't see a hint in the logs)https://www.goodreads.com/series/1286... (have no idea what these are, eventually they are legitimate? but then it may be possible that one belongs there too https://www.goodreads.com/series/150885)
https://www.goodreads.com/series/1286... (ok someone added just that book there ... for whatever reason)
https://www.goodreads.com/series/1286... (a Disney charm book? no idea what they are but ... the Royal Family book doesn't look like Disney at all)
https://www.goodreads.com/series/1286... (Disney 3D Storybook - isn't a series either I assume - and especially not for the Royal Family book, nothing there says "3D")
People have weird ideas of series...
no idea which language that is (finnish?) https://www.goodreads.com/series/2128... but per pictures it looks like different Disney characters so probably not a series?
Is this a series?https://www.goodreads.com/series/8846...
Also, is it possible/useful to make this thread sticky?
Moloch wrote: "Also, is it possible/useful to make this thread sticky?"I think a definite Yes to useful, certainly :)
#464 I'd say definitely NOT a series.(Translates roughly as a Favourite Movies as far as I could see)
#466 I've had a look and there are a number of editions published by other houses not owned by T&H, the series appears to belong to T&H so I'd say No. However, I'll leave it for a while so it can be moved to a Listopia - do you want to do it, or should it be moved to Projects?
#469 I'd say definitely not again - looks like not all editions belong. Do you want to Listopia them?
#466 and #469: thanks, if necessary I can make a list and then delete, but I'll not be able to in the next few days
466 and #469 lists created
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/115554.Library_of_World_Civilization
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/115555.The_Standard_Edition_of_the_Complete_Psychological_Works_of_Sigmund_Freud
I'm deleting the serieses now
Moloch wrote: "466 and #469lists created
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1......"
Good work :)
I assume that's not a series at all? https://www.goodreads.com/series/1906...(and even if it would belong to https://www.goodreads.com/series/1963... which I'm trying to transfer into that existing list https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...)
These Disney books do have really weird lists on them ...
474 That is indeed the Dutch name for the little golden books.
does anyone know that series? https://www.goodreads.com/series/1715... the description of the series does more sound like "different characters in their forties" which wouldn't make it a series ... are they perhaps placed in the same universe?
https://www.goodreads.com/series/1586...Looks like a publisher's series to me: Shakespeare's plays reimagined by modern authors? Since we don't consider Shakespeare's plays (or collected works) a series either, I think this should be a Listopia.
ETA Canongate had a series of modern authors reimagining myths (f.e. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...), that doesn't seem to have been made into a GR series either (or else it was deleted).
that does not look like a series= https://www.goodreads.com/series/6414... (and this kids by you not either I'd say)
I can't figure out if this is a valid non-fiction series:https://www.goodreads.com/series/165154
It's apparently about some sort of language learning method?
http://www.franklang.ru/
479 That is not a series, I don't know what those other books are, but I see two authors (Hector Malot and Guy de Maupassant) whose books are not connected, so it can't be a series.
#479. Before deleting I would say take advantage the books are together and do some clean-up. Author names are added badly. One book has two authors in one field and another has the series name as author.
Also I'm pretty sure those books are adaptations.
This one contains three novels of the author, all adapted: Текст новелл адаптирован (без упрощения текста оригинала) по методу Ильи Франка. which translates to: "The text of the novels is adapted (without simplification of the original text) by the method of Ilya Frank."
I suspect Илья Франк should be the primary for all the books.
(Just my opinions)ETA: #482 I think we let the fiction anthology series stay, in general. I'm not sure there's ever been a ruling though, but there is a lot of them. Take a look at Gardner R. Dozois or Jonathan Strahan or Martin H. Greenberg's profiles for instance.
#483 That one pretty much says it's an imprint in the description "[...]in this wonderful line of early chapter books." (Think of an imprint as more or less "common branding" if it helps.)
#484 That one i would probably let be. It's more like the commissioned non-fiction series. Or you could see it as a one man publishing firm imprint I suppose. So, I don't know :)
#485 I'd say no, that one's an imprint, and it shouldn't have the Manga Classics in the title either.
What about this one guys? "Crime à Hora do Chá Series (12 books) "
Google translate tells me this means: Tea Time Crime
https://www.goodreads.com/series/2052...
And looking at the books, they're a miss-mash of series -
Historical Mysteries and a Murder She Wrote and others.
It seems some sort of imprint or possibly a reader's selection grouping?
Apart from a few books that are part of 1 series, these books are unrelated to each other.
Delete?
EDIT: I deleted it.
thx krazy!Deleted the Disney princesses (didn't I just do that? deleting Disney princess serieses may be a weekly task ;) )
Is this jewel "series" about one jewel so that it would be a combining element? or just every princess with her jewel so again nothing than being a Disney princess the combining element? https://www.goodreads.com/series/8797...
and how to proceed with that Scooby-Doo? https://www.goodreads.com/series/6905...
That's most likely not a series because again just a "for early readers" kind of imprint and more the general Scooby Doo series.
But there are several this seems to be a more broaden one https://www.goodreads.com/series/5992...
and am not sure why this is a different series https://www.goodreads.com/series/70976 (if it's one at all)
and then there's this one https://www.goodreads.com/series/1059...
(aren't all Scooby Doo books just junior novels?!)
I think I would tend to put them all under the Scooby Doo Mystery series - but my childhood is quite a while back and we did only watch Scooby Doo in TV and I never got a book of it in hand.
#487 I'm not speaking spanish(?) but that doesn't look like a series - too much different real series involved too many different authors and the title seems just too generic
I'm sometimes a bit over the top in non fiction series but ... that should be an imprint? https://www.goodreads.com/series/2132... (or is being 3D and thriller enough in non fiction?)
Lachgas wrote: "I'm sometimes a bit over the top in non fiction series but ... that should be an imprint? https://www.goodreads.com/series/2132... (or is being 3D and thriller enough in non fiction?)"Aside from whether it is a series or not (I too find non-fiction series difficult to assess), the person who added them didn't even bother to combine several of those books.
lethe wrote: "Lachgas wrote: "I'm sometimes a bit over the top in non fiction series but ... that should be an imprint? https://www.goodreads.com/series/2132... (or is being 3D and thriller enough i..."yepp saw that, tried to combine some and corrected some incorrect authors which leds to more combining and - at least for the sharks book it seems clear that can't be a series because not all of the editions are thing 3D stuff .
(no idea why someone makes himself more works by adding same books several times instead of just combine them :) )
that seems to be a non series https://www.goodreads.com/series/1541... more a collection of a publisher? (as I don't know the publisher just wanted to make sure)
Lachgas wrote: "that seems to be a non series https://www.goodreads.com/series/1541... more a collection of a publisher? (as I don't know the publisher just wanted to make sure)"Those are sort of omnibuses they put together that combines various books and series into "greatest hits"
The books within each omnibus are not related, can be totally different series and seem to only share that they are published by Dreamspinner Press and were published in a certain calendar year.
I wouldn't consider them a series, personally, but I don't know...
Lachgas wrote: "that seems to be a non series https://www.goodreads.com/series/1541... more a collection of a publisher? (as I don't know the publisher just wanted to make sure)"Definitely not a series by GR standards
No common characters/world between all of the collections.
What about these types of entries? I see then around more and more thanks for Amazon. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
Title: Eleanor of Aquitaine (3 Book Series)
But it's NOT an omnibus or boxset.
When you go to the link and see what it is on Amazon you get this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...
Which is just a listing of all the books in the series. Again not an omnibus or boxset.
Amazon UK allows you to purchase unlike the US site, see: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eleanor-Aqui...
But again it looks more like a 1-button purchase for all 3 books of the series, not an omnibus edition. Amazon UK says: "Buy all 3 books for £14.97 (includes VAT) "
So...what to do about these series listings? Are they "not a book" or should they be left alone? Or treated as boxset/omnibus even though they're not?
(Realize this might not be 100% on topic, but since all these entries use "series" in their titles, I thought I'd just post it here - if it needs to be posted in another area, please let me know and I'll do that).
#497 This came up in another thread and Arenda said these are not series but should be merged into the first book.https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/... (See comments #5 and #9)
When there is an actual box set or omnibus edition, that would be the best merge target. When there is not, the first book of the series is the merge target for any edition that is a series placeholder or an Amazon series page.
Arenda wrote: "When there is an actual box set or omnibus edition, that would be the best merge target. When there is not, the first book of the series is the merge target for any edition that is a series placeho..."Okay. I'll merge it with book #1. Thanks!
List of unrelated stories that appear in Stephen King's Night Shift:https://www.goodreads.com/series/1773...
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rivka wrote: "501: Are they really unrelated? I don't read much King, but my impression is that he does link a lot of his work in various ways that could constitute a shared universe."I've read quite a bit of King and while he does sometimes include small references to other works as a bonus for eagle-eyed fans, they in no way constitute any kind of series (apart from The Dark Tower, the two Danny Torrance books, and I suppose the Green Mile which originally appeared in installments.) It's been a long time since I've read this collection but I am confident that most if not all of the stories have no connections to his other works. In any case, I think it's pretty silly to have the book with "(Night Shift #1-20)" after it. The stories are all self-contained and are not related to one another at all.
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(1)All editions are part of this series and (2) while there might not be common characters the books (3) share a universe and when read in chronological order they form an expanded story arc of space exploration. (Source)
As per the rules: As a general rule, a book is only part of a series if that designation would apply to all editions of a work (1). To be a series, books should have (2) characters and/or (3) universes in common.
The way I see it this series covers two of the above requirements.