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NICO… YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT O.o

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message 3101: by [deleted user] (new)

Well that's why sometimes I don't go to school when I don't want to. If there's too much work, I won't go to school or sometimes I'll just ditch school halfway through the day. There's no harm in skipping once a while. WOW LOOK AT ME. I'm such a bad influence, telling people it's all right to cut school. For shame.


message 3102: by Blogger (new) - rated it 5 stars

Blogger Girl I wish I can do that, but the classes are so hard, it'll be worst to fall behind. I hope you aren't experiencing the same thing


message 3103: by [deleted user] (new)

Sometimes I fall behind but I catch up quickly. Sometimes. I skip classes that are of no importance to me or if we're reviewing things. Mostly, I skip Phys Ed because the coach and I don't like each other.


message 3104: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin Here's to seeing 100 pages.


message 3105: by Blogger (last edited Mar 03, 2014 07:30PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Blogger Girl Typical, I'm not surprised. I actually live for gym. I know I'm really weird/strange but that's part of me nuttie charm LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL OKAY I NEED TO finish mes devoirs. @ Kevin, we're still on 72. -_-


message 3106: by Blogger (new) - rated it 5 stars

Blogger Girl Anyway, I better finish that homework and get off of tumblr and twitter (and goodreads). thank god I don't have an instagram account


message 3107: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin Blogger wrote: "@ Kevin, we're still on 72. -_- ..."

We were on page 30 something when i said we would reach 50+ pages... we are currently on page 72.


message 3108: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil Kevin wrote: "Blogger wrote: "@ Kevin, we're still on 72. -_- ..."

We were on page 30 something when i said we would reach 50+ pages... we are currently on page 72."


I think he means that he thought you thought that we were already at 100 so was just saying


message 3109: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin Deaths coming wrote: "I think he means that he thought you thought that we were already at 100 so was just saying ..."

>he
You and I are the only males currently talking in this thread.


message 3110: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil hello people I am back I have been rather busy because of a school excussion
so anyway whats being happening with your lives?
ps man blogger thats hard what year are you in?


message 3111: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil Kevin wrote: "Deaths coming wrote: "I think he means that he thought you thought that we were already at 100 so was just saying ..."

>he
You and I are the only males currently talking in this thread."


ahm sorry blogger


message 3112: by Niecy (new)

Niecy Jackson are any of u unicorns


message 3113: by Blogger (new) - rated it 5 stars

Blogger Girl Deaths coming wrote: "hello people I am back I have been rather busy because of a school excussion
so anyway whats being happening with your lives?
ps man blogger thats hard what year are you in?"


10 or whatever grading thing you have. I hope it's not the same as the British school thing HOW old ARE you????

@Niecy, yes of course. I have a magical realm. no joke


message 3114: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 06, 2014 12:08PM) (new)

The same reason I don't like it is for the same reason I don't like ANY of the "love" in any of Rick Riordan's books.

Friendship suffices in all the cases.

Nico admired Percy like a hero. Big deal. That doesn't mean he's "in love."

Admiring, liking, looking up to, or being attracted to someone is NOT love. Love is NOT a feeling.

Love is a conscious choice to do what's best for someone, even if it's not what they want. Romantic love can produce feelings of attraction, but is not attraction itself.

Nico's pity party about "I couldn't tell anyone. I'm such a freak, boohoo," is irrelevant because what do feelings matter in the first place? Are we so weak that our feelings define us in any way, shape or form? That we HAVE to dwell on them anyway? They don't HAVE to be "romantic" unless we want them to be.
So he liked things about Percy.

How awful that we aren't allowed to like people without being told we're "in love" with them nowadays.

Because what does that even mean? That we want to be committed to and have a future with them. That we therefore agree to show physical displays of affection.

Does admiring someone imply we want that? If not, it isn't romantic. It isn't "gay." It isn't a "crush." There's no such thing as a magic feeling that forces us to be romantic toward someone. It's a choice, choice, CHOICE.

Liking someone is okay, and has NOTHING to do with romance.

Rick Riordan severely under-values friendship, and that's the thing I've always hated about this series long before I knew anything about Nico. All the pairings and love triangles are ridiculous and trashy. Very immature understandings of love, but portrayed as reasonable and normal.

Ugh. Barf...


(That said, "being gay" doesn't mean you LIKE the same sex just as being in love never meant merely liking a person. "Being gay" means being sexually attracted to the same gender. Frankly, I'll say it. Acts people engage in for that reason are horrific and perverted. Straw men like Nico's pity party about wanting to be "accepted" don't phase me, sorry. Don't like bullying? Neither do I. How does that mean I have to support disgusting sexual acts becoming the norm?).


message 3115: by Niecy (new)

Niecy Jackson Brown wrote: "The same reason I don't like it is for the same reason I don't like ANY of the "love" in any of Rick Riordan's books.

Friendship suffices in all the cases.

Nico admired Percy like a hero. Big dea..."


Brown wrote: "The same reason I don't like it is for the same reason I don't like ANY of the "love" in any of Rick Riordan's books.

Friendship suffices in all the cases.

Nico admired Percy like a hero. Big dea..."



Uh. How old are you


message 3116: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil Blogger wrote: "Deaths coming wrote: "hello people I am back I have been rather busy because of a school excussion
so anyway whats being happening with your lives?
ps man blogger thats hard what year are you in?"
..."


I am in year11


message 3117: by Niecy (new)

Niecy Jackson Deaths coming wrote: "Blogger wrote: "Deaths coming wrote: "hello people I am back I have been rather busy because of a school excussion
so anyway whats being happening with your lives?
ps man blogger thats hard what ye..."


Nice. Im almost 13


message 3118: by [deleted user] (new)

Wow okay Brown so love is a choice. Great way of thinking. Amazing.


message 3119: by Niecy (new)

Niecy Jackson Blogger wrote: "Deaths coming wrote: "hello people I am back I have been rather busy because of a school excussion
so anyway whats being happening with your lives?
ps man blogger thats hard what year are you in?"
..."



Cool.


message 3120: by Niecy (last edited Mar 06, 2014 01:04PM) (new)

Niecy Jackson . You cant just look at someone and be like, im in love. well you can but thats's not actually love


message 3121: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin @ Brown you summed up most of what I said earlier in a mature well thought out way that no one can pick apart without seeming to have a hidden agenda.


message 3122: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 06, 2014 01:02PM) (new)

Avalon wrote: "Wow okay Brown so love is a choice. Great way of thinking. Amazing."

Love PRODUCES feelings. Love is NOT a feeling itself.

This article explains it really good: http://www.deviantart.com/art/How-Not...

I'd be pretty interested to hear you define it, but I get the feeling your answer isn't going to be very deep.


message 3123: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin Avalon wrote: "Wow okay Brown so love is a choice. Great way of thinking. Amazing."

That seems sarcastic Avalon..... and love is kinda of a choice, you can't help but "FEEL" for someone but you get over it in time, its just hormones, kill those and see if you still have the feels.


message 3124: by [deleted user] (new)

Kevin wrote: "Avalon wrote: "Wow okay Brown so love is a choice. Great way of thinking. Amazing."

That seems sarcastic Avalon..... and love is kinda of a choice, you can't help but "FEEL" for someone but you ge..."


Is this just because I used the word barf, or are you prejudiced because I said I don't support gay?


message 3125: by Niecy (new)

Niecy Jackson So, when you love your sister that's a choice. So just say uh turn off love oh i hate her. What ???????????????????????????


message 3126: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin Kill all the feels man
The feels


message 3127: by [deleted user] (new)

Niecy wrote: "So, when you love your sister that's a choice. So just say uh turn off love oh i hate her. What ???????????????????????????"

I know why you're confused. You think I mean "love" as in a FEELING.
Love isn't a feeling you can turn on or off.

Love is choosing to be selfless toward someone despite changing emotions. Love CAN produce feelings, but doesn't always. Did you ever hear the expression, "You can love them, but you don't have to like them?"

If you chose to be mean to your sister, yes you're choosing not to love her in that case.

Seriously, read the article I put up. It explains exactly what I mean.


message 3128: by Niecy (new)

Niecy Jackson Brown wrote: "Niecy wrote: "So, when you love your sister that's a choice. So just say uh turn off love oh i hate her. What ???????????????????????????"

I know why you're confused. You think I mean "love" as ..."


Brown wrote: "Niecy wrote: "So, when you love your sister that's a choice. So just say uh turn off love oh i hate her. What ???????????????????????????"

I know why you're confused. You think I mean "love" as ..."


I did.But i still disagree with your views on not liking the "love" parts in percy jackson and others for that matter. But, i get what you are saying even if i do not like it that much.


message 3129: by [deleted user] (new)

Kevin wrote: "Kill all the feels man
"


Why would you kill all your feelings?
Feelings that come from loving someone aren't bad.
I'm just saying feelings aren't love itself.
Your putting way too much value on them.


message 3130: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin Brown wrote: "Is this just because I used the word barf, or are you prejudiced because I said I don't support gay?
..."


Did you quote the wrong person? I said he didn't love Percy just looked up to him as a brother..... i am confused by your question


message 3131: by [deleted user] (new)

Kevin wrote: "Brown wrote: "Is this just because I used the word barf, or are you prejudiced because I said I don't support gay?
..."

Did you quote the wrong person? I said he didn't love Percy just looked up ..."


Probably, sorry.


message 3132: by [deleted user] (new)

Niecy wrote: "Brown wrote: "Niecy wrote: "So, when you love your sister that's a choice. So just say uh turn off love oh i hate her. What ???????????????????????????"

I know why you're confused. You think I m..."


Why would you tell me that you disagree if you're not going to explain why? Don't cop out now just because it's the easy thing to do. It misses the point of discussions.


message 3133: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin Brown wrote: "Why would you kill all your feelings?m..."

Because they hurt


message 3134: by Niecy (new)

Niecy Jackson Brown wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Kill all the feels man
"

Why would you kill all your feelings?
Feelings that come from loving someone aren't bad.
I'm just saying feelings aren't love itself.
Your putting way too m..."



Okay now i understand but still. Are you saying also that you dont like the lovey-dovy stuff.


message 3135: by [deleted user] (new)

Niecy wrote: "Brown wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Kill all the feels man
"

Why would you kill all your feelings?
Feelings that come from loving someone aren't bad.
I'm just saying feelings aren't love itself.
Your put..."


More like, I don't see a point of being in relationships if lovey dovey stuff is all they're capable of. I don't expect them to get married since they're kids, but that kinda goes back to, "then why do they insist on being in relationships at all?"

Why is everyone desperate to have boyfriends and girlfriends anyway?


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message 3137: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin @Niecy... Why was i included in your reply? Can you please quote exactly what a person said that you are replying to, or if it's just the person do "@". If you go and look back at older pages you will see that you have no idea what that person is talking about.


message 3138: by [deleted user] (new)

I suppose that I do agree with the fact that love is a choice. But it's a feeling first. Love usually starts with all those hormones and such, like Kevin mentioned. They make you FEEL something for an other person. And once you start to "feel" something for a person, you choose to love them. But I believe that love being a choice is in most cases. Sometimes, for others, it's all hormones. They are drawn to the person, whether they want to or not. The person they are drawn to can have many flaws and yet they still love them. So I disagree that love is a choice but I also agree. It's weird.


message 3139: by Niecy (new)

Niecy Jackson @Brown well they like each other because they make each other happen and they share a certain connection. They've been through everything. Plus tdher's the looks


message 3140: by Niecy (new)

Niecy Jackson @Kevin. Okay sorry. And which post did I have you in


message 3141: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 06, 2014 01:42PM) (new)

Avalon wrote: "I suppose that I do agree with the fact that love is a choice. But it's a feeling first. Love usually starts with all those hormones and such, like Kevin mentioned. They make you FEEL something for..."

Can't control themselves? I refuse to believe that.
Can't control their feelings maybe, but those are a small part of love. An ingredient. Not the thing itself.

We can control whether or not we want to kiss, hold hands, get married, etc, etc, etc.

Full-blown romantic love is a choice, and not one we should feel like we HAVE to make just because of mere attraction.

We can be attracted to things that are bad too, you know. It doesn't mean we're "hiding part of ourself away," if we choose to ignore it.


message 3142: by [deleted user] (new)

Niecy wrote: "@Brown well they like each other because they make each other happen and they share a certain connection. They've been through everything. Plus tdher's the looks"

I have a connection with my mother and I don't have to be in a romantic relationship with her.

Same with my friends. Why are you telling me people have to be in romantic relationships because of that?


message 3143: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil look we had this discussion already so look back for answers.
Brown wrote: "The same reason I don't like it is for the same reason I don't like ANY of the "love" in any of Rick Riordan's books.

Friendship suffices in all the cases.

Nico admired Percy like a hero. Big dea..."


this comment I find is rude if you don't like the relatioships than don't read them I and alot of people like the relationships nico and percy is less well done I will say that but I am quite happy with the others


message 3144: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 06, 2014 01:56PM) (new)

Deaths coming wrote: "look we had this discussion already so look back for answers.
Brown wrote: "The same reason I don't like it is for the same reason I don't like ANY of the "love" in any of Rick Riordan's books.

Fr..."


I wasn't trying to be rude.
I read these books for other reasons. Why am I forbidden to have a negative opinion on one of its aspects?

Isn't it a little baby-ish to be offended by someone for not liking something?


message 3145: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil Brown wrote: "Deaths coming wrote: "look we had this discussion already so look back for answers.
Brown wrote: "The same reason I don't like it is for the same reason I don't like ANY of the "love" in any of Ric..."


well it is one of the main parts of the book. sersoly it is like a fifth of the books and you talked about how all of them are unrelisic and it always have to do with love. when is it almost all the relationships start as friendships the closest love that makes no sense is nico and even that makes some sense


message 3146: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil and no sometimes love is not a choice all the relationships had time to bloom and are relisic


message 3147: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil the reason it seems rude is because it looks like from my prospective is that you don't like love in genral and find it sickening just the idea


message 3148: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil as I said in another discussion with kevan I find things can are more offensive than they are sorry if I am other reacting but this seems rude to me sorry


message 3149: by [deleted user] (new)

So then I suppose that every time someone brings up an opinion that opposes yours, you would find it "rude."


message 3150: by Deaths coming (new)

Deaths coming torture mastrer-if you want someone torture he wil opinions are fine but you were saying stuff that made no sense and when you offend a book that I love I tend to feel afended for it if it makes no sense
if you saw I agreed with keven in some things and could see his agrument yours seems more like you dislike romance in genreal


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