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NICO… YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT O.o

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message 801: by Andy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andy Casas I'm just interested because I feel like Mr. Riordan will find someone to be with NIco and I wonder who it will be, I mean besides Leo Rick seems to pair up his characters with a partner.


message 802: by Andy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andy Casas wow actually I completely brain-farted, Leo has Calypso, thats embarrassing haha


Catherine Avalon wrote: "Percy NEEDS to find out. Everyone needs to. That's the number one thing I want when I read the BoO. If Percy never finds out, my life will not be complete. And anyways, how is Nico going to move on..."

I don't think anyone needs to find out. I mean, does every gay individual tell the world their orientation? If it doesn't come up, it doesn't come up. Matters of the heart are private. They're not meant to be shared with everyone.

Personally, I just want Nico to not end up with someone. It would just be too convenient. Everyone has to be a pair? Really? Because endings are only happy if you finish in a relationship? >:/ I'll be happy as long as Nico opens up to connecting with others by the end of the next book. That alone would be enough for me to be happy.


message 804: by Andy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andy Casas I agree with that I want him to be alone, (that sounds mean but it suits his character) and he's ties or my favorite character in the series and I agree he needs to open up to people


message 805: by [deleted user] (new)

But Catherine, how is Nico going to move on if
Percy doesn't find out?


Catherine Avalon wrote: "But Catherine, how is Nico going to move on if Percy doesn't find out?"

Does he need Percy's permission to move on? Are you saying you've never gotten over a crush without the other person knowing about it? I'm asking, because I know I have. A person is completely capable of resolving their feelings for someone or something 100% internally.


message 807: by [deleted user] (new)

Yeah I have never gotten over a crush without telling the other person because once I tell them then I feel like I can move on because they obviously didn't like me. I get my hopes up but once I get rejected then I know I can't linger on these feelings and I REALLY start to move on. I think Nico knows it's impossible for Percy to return his feelings but he still can't shake them off. But if he confesses, and Percy rejects him, then he officially knows it's impossible and it'll be a start for Nico to finally move on. Well, that's what I think and that's why I want Percy to find out. It doesn't have to happen but maybe Nico will really get a move on once he confesses. Percy will help him move on.


message 808: by Kevin (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kevin Just read 3 and a quarter pages.... a lot of people replying to things and their replies makes no sense whatsoever... maybe i'm just tired


Catherine Avalon wrote: "I think Nico knows it's impossible for Percy to return his feelings but he still can't shake them off. But if he confesses, and Percy rejects him, then he officially knows it's impossible and it'll be a start for Nico to finally move on."
Percy is mad in love with Annabeth, and Nico knows that. He already knows nothing is going to happen between himself and Percy. You can't think of Nico's actions in terms of what you would do. You have to think in terms of what Nico would do.


message 810: by Alanna (new) - rated it 3 stars

Alanna Emerald wrote: "Well this chapter was certainly shocking! Honestly, I didn't see this coming. I've never liked Jason, and I kinda still don't. But I don't agree this is the bravest thing. (I assume you all read th..."

I agree. I always thought that Nico, even when he was mad at Percy, kind of viewed him as an older brother. That scene where they are at Percy's house and they actually talk was always a scene that I really liked for some reason. I always thought that Nico was always so upset with Percy was because he had looked up to Percy so much, and Percy had failed him, kind of like an understated version of the Incredibles, with Syndrome and Mr. Incredible. And what really irritates me is that Jason tells Nico he can't help what he is. Every single Percy Jackson book is about kids who beat the odds and choose their own paths, no matter what gets handed to him. I was just really surprised that books that have emphasized free will so much just kind of skate around that when it comes to Nico's sexual orientation. Yes, people are gay. I don't think it's right, but it will not prevent me from reading the rest of the series. What bothers me is that Rick Riordan has effectively ruined the tense brotherly relationship between Nico and Percy, and then makes it out to be that Nico is an absolutely helpless character with no choices in life. That's not the Nico we've come to know, and sadly, he somehow loses the strength and mystique of his character because of it.


message 811: by Cherie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie The books are about taking what you can't control and using it for good. Kids who originally thought they were losers because they were born with ADHD and dyslexia found out that it made them special and strong. They were strong characters who could choose their own fate, not who they are. On the very first page Percy said he never wanted to be a demigod. The books are about how you can't choose who you are, or your parents, or what you're born with, you can always choose your own path. Nico did not choose to have a crush on Percy, but he chose to help him instead of avoiding him. That is the concept of free will Rick uses throughout the story, not choosing to change yourself, but learning to accept yourself and choosing to make the best of it.


message 812: by Catherine (last edited Nov 14, 2013 08:46AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Catherine Cherie wrote: "The books are about taking what you can't control and using it for good. Kids who originally thought they were losers because they were born with ADHD and dyslexia found out that it made them speci..."

Well said!

I think too many people forget where Percy started. He started as a story for Rick's son to feel less awful about being ADHD and Dyslexic. To teach him that even when things in life suck, it won't stop you from being great.


message 813: by Casey (last edited Nov 14, 2013 02:03PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Casey Diana wrote: "No he can't be gay, Why Rick!!!! I been in love with Nico since I was twelve. *Crying in a corner*"

I know right? Why Nico?


message 814: by Cherie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie Since frank's transformation all male characters are now hot (well, I'm 20 so I have to picture the younger ones as older else I'll feel like a perv :P) but point is there was no entirely safe choice. It was pretty much him or Leo since they were the only single ones and it makes more sense for it to be nico.


message 815: by Cherie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie Yeah I meant before HoH and before Leo found calypso.


message 816: by [deleted user] (new)

Now that Leo has found Calypso, my adorable ship for Nico x Leo is over T^T


message 817: by [deleted user] (new)

It's alright (kinda) cause I think Leo x Calypso is cute but Nico x Leo would've been waaaaay cuter.


Sheechiibii No way! Caleo ftw! I have loved Caleo forever seriously, I can't believe my ship came true >.<

I think Nico will probably stay single and that's all right with me. Pairing everyone off would be a bit too cliché. I just want him to be happy with himself by the end.


message 819: by [deleted user] (new)

Yeah but just imagine Nico x Leo! Keep imagining. Go on. Don't stop, just keep imagining. Now think. THINK!! Isn't it absotively, posilutely adorable?? I like Caleo but I can't stop loving Nico x Leo. My heart goes many ways :(


Sheechiibii Mmmm...No I can't :/ I love Nico and I love Leo but...I don't really love them together enough? Not enough to beat Caleo, which is my OTP.


message 821: by Cherie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie I love percico... I love it, I can't help it. :P although I know it could never happen, percico lives in my imagination. So much cuteness...


message 822: by [deleted user] (new)

Percabeth is my OTP. I've shipped them ever since Percy said she had curly blond hair like a princess (something like that). I can basically ship Nico with anyone cause I love him so much I want him to be shared. I've shipped him with Leo, Percy, Annabeth, Reyna, Piper, Octavion (weird right?), Rachel, Travis and Connor, and Jason. He's compatible with everyone, to me.


message 823: by [deleted user] (new)

I know right? Percico is cute. You should try checking out Percico headcanons, they're cute too !


message 824: by Cherie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie I've read several percico fanfictions. Some are really great. :p


Catherine Cherie wrote: "(well, I'm 20 so I have to picture the younger ones as older else I'll feel like a perv :P) "

You are SO right, and I'm already than you so it feels even more pervy. :P

The person I most want to be in this entire series is Annabeth, because then I'd get to be genius, badass, AND dating Percy. ;)

Percy & Annabeth FOREVER! :3

I love Nico, but I'll never give my vote to him being with Percy, and I want him to love himself first before I start being worried about who else he's going to love.


message 826: by Cherie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie My otp will always be Percy/annabeth. Ever since sea of monsters... They are just the best. (But still percico lives inside ;p) but that doesn't mean I want them to happen, I agree with you. Nico needs to learn to accept himself first and foremost.. And then we will be left to our own imagination on who he ends up with.


message 827: by [deleted user] (new)

Lol wow you guys have to imagine them older xDD I just imagine them the way they are (I'm just 14). I think that's Nico's age (correct me if I'm wrong) and it's just one year younger than Leo :D


Blogger Girl NOW WE SHIP PERCICO???????????????????


message 829: by [deleted user] (new)

NO! Percico is adorable but Percabeth is my OTP !


Blogger Girl well the series is ending soon so *shrugs* might as well


message 831: by Cherie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie Yeah, Rick doesn't do epilogues :( the epilogue for me is like closure and I love having one after a good series


Little Soph Jackson Personally, I thinks its a good thing that Rick has included the fact about Nico. I mean, yes the book is aimed at a younger audience but this is good because it makes them be more open minded about other people. Also, we didn't really know a lot about Nico and I wasn't sure whether he might leave the remainder of the seven as he didn't come across as comfortable in the group. But by coming out and saying that he's gay, it shows he's becoming more trusting.
So yeah! I think Rick did a brave thing and I just hope most people see it as a good thing!


Sheechiibii I prefer not having epilogues, at least not ones that take place years in the future. Plus, if there's no epilogue there's always a chance that we'll see the characters again.


Sheechiibii I prefer not having epilogues, at least not ones that take place years in the future. Plus, if there's no epilogue there's always a chance that we'll see the characters again.


Blogger Girl yes. just give an epilogue that's ...oh...30 pages just so we know the series has come to a final end..:)


Blogger Girl wellllllllllllll it's the last one so make it long and as durable as can be


Blogger Girl yes and over....over. ohh and I like your profile picture. nice/funny advise on it


Sheechiibii H99 wrote: "Sheechiibii wrote: "I prefer not having epilogues, at least not ones that take place years in the future. Plus, if there's no epilogue there's always a chance that we'll see the characters again."
..."


I didn't mean that he should write more any time soon. Just that if you give a book a final epilogue set in the future, it means you can never go back to them, not without it being weird.


message 839: by [deleted user] (new)

Well we already know that Rick is not going to continue the series, he wants to try new myths. He said if he kept going back to Greek, then he could never get to other myths. So if he's gonna end Greek mythology, at least give us a nice long epilogue !!


Sheechiibii Yeah but what happens after the new series? He could do cameos or an adventure with all his heroes. They do all take place in the same universe don't they? But if he does an epilogue we won't.


message 841: by Aeia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Aeia Honestly, I don't see any problem about Nico's feelings towards Percy. Nico is one of my favorite character since PJO and I still like him despite this issue going on about him.


message 842: by Anna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anna Jαṡṃïṉε wrote: "Not reading the last book because of Nico's little "episode". This is inappropriate, and I will have nothing to do with an author who supports gay rights. This is violating, and horrifying."

excuse me I'm done with saying "I respect your opinion" to people when their opinion is that I am a second class citizen because of my sexual orientation.


Sheechiibii ^ exactly. Why should disrespectful opinions be respected?


message 844: by Cherie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie People deserve respect, not ideas. You are not obligated to respect beliefs and opinions especially when they are disrespectful of others.


Sheechiibii I think people deserve acceptance but respect is earned. People only deserve as much respect as they earn imo.


message 846: by Tj (new)

Tj Morganofthesea wrote: "Jasmine wrote: "Not reading the last book because of Nico's little "episode". This is inappropriate, and I will have nothing to do with an author who supports gay rights. This is violating, and hor..."

she/he is probably a grown up by the way he/she spoke


message 847: by Tj (new)

Tj Luna Finnick wrote: "I really respect Rick Riordan for adding this bit about Nico, It's kind of sad since Nico and Percy will never end up together and that raises the chances of his death in the last book, but all t..."

how is that the truth rick didn't have to make him gay now nobody would want to be nico in the movie


message 848: by Tj (new)

Tj i use to like nico now i don't


message 849: by Tj (new)

Tj Karina wrote: "Amelia wrote: "Um... well I wasn't prepared for it. I didn't think he'd put it in because a bunch of younger kids read this. My fifth grade sister just asked, "How can a boy have a crush on a boy?"..."

you aren't going to explain to a little girl about gay people and that's not what God intended for us


message 850: by Cherie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie Oh shut up about your god. Nobody cares.


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