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NICO… YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT O.o
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Oct 28, 2013 03:39PM
Actually the definition of homophobia is "unreasoning fear of or antipathy towards homosexuals". So yeah according to it's definition being against homosexuals makes you homophobic.
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Again, FEAR has NOTHING to do with the people that do not approve of homosexuality. They seen aren't afraid!
"Fear of or antipathy towards" - antipathy is when you're opposed to something, dislike something, disapprove of something, have an aversion to something etc, etc. So yes, according to it's definition being against homosexuality is being a homophobe.
one gay character and all hell breaks lose. Newsflash homophobic, gays will always be here. always have. Now let's move on to important topics such as famine or drought or whatever is threatening to the human race and not some petty annoyance on one's sexuality. you would think people are mature enough to accept differences. It makes us individual and if we have a "perfect" way of living, fine but don't write about things that could create gays, lesb, bi out there to feel condemned by what they are. I know it's a free country and all but remember what we learned in elementary school: if you don't have something nice to say THEN DON'T SAY IT!!
Pfloyd wrote: "If you don't have FAITH and BELIEF in something - then where do your MORALS come from?"
So again, I love Nico, and not as a fairweather fan.
Here's the thing: At the end of the day, you guys against homosexuality can complain all you want about the contents of this book, because I'd rather read (and let kids read) stories with homosexual love rather than read some of the rampant hatred and disgust from those heterosexuals here claiming to know right from wrong.
It was uncalled for. It changed how I felt about Rick as an author. Well so many say they are happy, many aren't too. It's the media, including movies, shows, and music that influence people to be homosexual. Now you see it more and more, including in books. How sad is it? How sad it is that a child has to suddenly read about a character suddenly "finding himself". Now you can argue as to it's nothing new. Kids these days know all about it. That just further proves my point. What has this world come to? We are demoralizing everyday. Years ago, it was nothing like this. Yet I know years from now, you will have a freaking 5 year old suddenly turn to his parents and say he's gay. Problem? Yea. He's FIVE! What does he know of at that age about any of that??? I know as well that in these coming days it gets harder and harder. No one will believe us few who grow fewer and fewer. I know we are fighting a losing battle. But I'll continue until I can't no more.
What's the freaking difference between a boy
saying he has a crush on another boy and a girl having a crush on a boy? ITS THE SAME! Just different genders!! It's not wrong. Love is love no matter what. So what if he's five? Your point? It doesn't matter if he is young. If he finds that that is who he is at an early age, then the better instead of having confusing and conflicting feelings in the future. Suck it up. He's gay. You don't like it? Don't read the books.
saying he has a crush on another boy and a girl having a crush on a boy? ITS THE SAME! Just different genders!! It's not wrong. Love is love no matter what. So what if he's five? Your point? It doesn't matter if he is young. If he finds that that is who he is at an early age, then the better instead of having confusing and conflicting feelings in the future. Suck it up. He's gay. You don't like it? Don't read the books.
What is the point? Really? So that's what we have to look up to. People running the world that think hearing a five year old talk about gayness is as normal as hearing a bird chirp. God help us.
Yes, a five year old talking about gayness is perfectly normal. THAT is what our world is coming to and I like it.
Well then I'm very sorry for this world and the next generations.
Your seriously going to ask "how so?" Have you read the god damn comments against homophobic people?? If you're going to ask "how so?" then I suggest you read again -_-
Sheechiibii wrote: "No, religion is about having faith and belief in something even when there's no proof for it. You don't need religion to have morals, and many people who are religious have pretty disgraceful moral..."It is more likely for homosexuals to have STDS or other sexually transmitted diseases because the risk of pregnancy is out of the picture.
Avalon wrote: "Your seriously going to ask "how so?" Have you read the god damn comments against homophobic people?? If you're going to ask "how so?" then I suggest you read again -_-"I know that. Still don't see how what you said makes sense.
Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "God help us."No. God help you, to deal with your need to force your beliefs on others. "Love thy neighbors." It's not caveat-ed with "as long as they're just like you". Maybe you should ask God to help you understand that lesson as well.
I mean, Nico is a fictional character, and you still feel the need to just hammer and hammer and hammer about how wrong he is? I'd hate to think how you treat people in the real world.
Alyssa wrote: "It is more likely for homosexuals to have STDS or other sexually transmitted diseases because the risk of pregnancy is out of the picture. "
Yes, and heterosexual couples breed 100% of homosexual individuals and unwanted children. What's your point? You really have to stop acting like homosexuality is the source of all evil in the world.
...That's Gaea, right now. Seriously, why can't we just enjoy the book for being what it is? Why does it have to matter so much to you that a fictional male character had a crush on another fictional male character?
I'm asking in earnest right now. This book holds true to the system of Greek gods, where homosexuality was way okay. Are you trying to say that nobody's allowed to hold their own beliefs but you and yours? Why can't you just lose yourself in the world of the book and let what is be what is? You're not in your world. You're in theirs. Their morality system applies. Not yours.
I saw this coming since day 1. And for it to actually happen. I... I just can't believe it! It's like a dream come true!! And I soooo much want Nico to confess.... But I also don't want him to get hurt..... Arrgggghhh!!!!! I mean, he's been through so much already, another rejection and he just might lose it for good.
Haha... Reading so many comments about one fictional character's preferences has enlightnened me so much about how other people think. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with Nico being "gay". In fact, I was wishing for it from the bottom of my heart. Haha. Seriously though, I don't understand what the fuss is all about. So what if Nico is gay? He deserves happiness too. Even if it's not with Percy....(I'm still keeping my hopes up for this one). The same applies to all gays.
Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "It was uncalled for. It changed how I felt about Rick as an author. Well so many say they are happy, many aren't too. It's the media, including movies, shows, and music that influence people to be ..."It wasn't uncalled for. Rick Riordan has always written about children who struggle fitting in. ADHD, dyslexia, mixed race children, none of these issues are any different to him than homosexuality. All of these issues cause stress and hurt to children and all Rick is trying to do is show them they're not alone, and that they can be accepted by the ones who matter.
Do you think he cares about what the bigots think? No, because they're not the ones he's trying to send a message to, they're the ones he's trying to protect the other children from.
Influence has nothing to do with people being homosexual. The only thing acceptance has done is stopped people from hiding who they are, from trying to force themselves to be something they're not. There has always been homosexuality. Always. It's not something that's new or being taught or spreading. The only thing being taught now is to accept who you are, whether that's homosexual or heterosexual.
Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "It was uncalled for. It changed how I felt about Rick as an author. Well so many say they are happy, many aren't too. It's the media, including movies, shows, and music that influence people to be ..."well thats awesome :) I totally agree with this! I read a verse the other day that said that "Evil has victory when good men (or woman) do nothing" and we are not doing nothing! so evil will not have victory until we let go :)
You think it's good to hurt other people by trying to force them to be something they're not? To tell them that doing what makes them happy makes them sick/unnatural/wrong? If you think that's good then you need to seriously reconsider what that word means.
Catherine wrote: "Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "God help us."No. God help you, to deal with your need to force your beliefs on others. "Love thy neighbors." It's not caveat-ed with "as long as they're just like yo..."
To be honest, I don't like the series's interpretation of Gaea. Gaea is mother Earth. THerefore, as long as Earth itself and all the things that live upon it is alike, Gaea should technically be awake and alive. If Gaea were to sleep, everything that happens on the surface should be frozen. Imagine if Demeter sleeps, than vegetation all around the world will die. Thus, why wouldn't the same principle apply to Gaea?
Just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Damn. Never thought of that. Now you're going to make me ponder this for the next few weeks >_<
Ali wrote: "Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "It was uncalled for. It changed how I felt about Rick as an author. Well so many say they are happy, many aren't too. It's the media, including movies, shows, and music t..."Yea exactly :)
Guys, guys, guys. Why do you have to hate? Look at me. I have a bisexual Christian friend, a Muslim friend, a Chinese friend, and a Hindu friend with a disability. And I'm an atheist. There is so many combinations there. No hate at all! We accept each other.
i think its surprised me alot but i sort of saw it coming. I knew rick was going to troll and do soemthing like this is the book. I think that (in nico's defense) that everyone is a little gay inside. we all have those times where we just want to try something with the same sex. that deosnt mean we are gay. Nico may have had that feeling. I think he had a crush on percy but got over it. i think he still likes girls a lot more than guys.
Bubblishess wrote: "i think its surprised me alot but i sort of saw it coming. I knew rick was going to troll and do soemthing like this is the book. I think that (in nico's defense) that everyone is a little gay insi..."That's a theory, but we haven't seen any signs of him liking girls at all, and we know he's had a crush on Percy for years - so it seems unlikely that this as just a 'faze'. But you never know.
Catherine wrote: "Paigetwo *Caitlyn* wrote: "God help us."No. God help you, to deal with your need to force your beliefs on others. "Love thy neighbors." It's not caveat-ed with "as long as they're just like yo..."
No one is "HAMMERING" anything. It's ok for all of you to.say how great it is, but no ok for others to say it isn't? And again, verses taken out of context. I never said I "hated" homosexuals. I never said I "don't like" them either. I know people that are, and I'm still friends with them. Don't try to turn me and anyone who disagrees with the majority into the bad guy.
Lol yeah everyone is a tiny gay inside. I won't deny that I have thought of doing something to the same sex sometimes, though it doesn't mean I'm gay. And I don't think Nico it got over his crush on Percy. Remember how Jason was a bit skeptic about that? They also said he was watching Percy and annabeth in a weird sort of gaze which is most likely jealousy.
Avalon wrote: "lol yeah everyone is a tiny gay inside. I won't deny that I have thought of doing something to the same sex sometimes, though it doesn't mean I'm gay. And I don't think Nico it got over his crush o..."
ok yeah youir right but i think think that nico may not be entirely gay.
ok yeah youir right but i think think that nico may not be entirely gay.
I'm PRETTY sure Nico is not entirely gay. Like
I said, I think it's just Percy. He blushes around other girls too so maybe he's bi. Like I keep saying, I think he's pan but, of course, no one wants to agree with me.
I said, I think it's just Percy. He blushes around other girls too so maybe he's bi. Like I keep saying, I think he's pan but, of course, no one wants to agree with me.
Well I just go on the information we're given. We don't think a straight character is bi just because we've only seen them like one person, so why would I think that about Nico. I think the blushing with Nico is because he's shy and from a time when people weren't so forward. Hazel is like that too.
Avalon wrote: "I'm PRETTY sure Nico is not entirely gay. Like
I said, I think it's just Percy. He blushes around other girls too so maybe he's bi. Like I keep saying, I think he's pan but, of course, no one wants..."
That would explain alot. i agree with you. he might be pan.
I said, I think it's just Percy. He blushes around other girls too so maybe he's bi. Like I keep saying, I think he's pan but, of course, no one wants..."
That would explain alot. i agree with you. he might be pan.
Sheechiibii wrote: "It wasn't uncalled for. Rick Riordan has always written about children who struggle fitting in. ADHD, dyslexia, mixed race children, none of these issues are any different to him than homosexuality. All of these issues cause stress and hurt to children and all Rick is trying to do is show them they're not alone, and that they can be accepted by the ones who matter. ..."Well said!
Avalon wrote: "Lol yeah everyone is a tiny gay inside. I won't deny that I have thought of doing something to the same sex sometimes, though it doesn't mean I'm gay. And I don't think Nico it got over his crush o..."No. Not everyone. I don't.
Ker Malkin wrote: "I actually didn't know he's gay until I read his confession. But it all makes sense. The way he's acting and all. There's probably a hint in the Son of Neptune when amnesiac Percy met Nico. Idk. I ..."Just because someone is different from you doesn't mean you have to treat them badly.
Jasmine wrote: "Not reading the last book because of Nico's little "episode". This is inappropriate, and I will have nothing to do with an author who supports gay rights. This is violating, and horrifying."Ker Malkin wrote: "I actually didn't know he's gay until I read his confession. But it all makes sense. The way he's acting and all. There's probably a hint in the Son of Neptune when amnesiac Percy met Nico. Idk. I ..."
Just because someone is different doesn't mean you treat them badly.
Jasmine wrote: "Not reading the last book because of Nico's little "episode". This is inappropriate, and I will have nothing to do with an author who supports gay rights. This is violating, and horrifying."Ohhhhh missy you are MISSING OUT!!!!!!
I had hoped that this would be a sensible discussion about the book and its plot twists, but alas it turned out to be just another dumb debate about gay rights. If one just cuts through all that BS and rationally think about it, this `reveal’ makes no sense, because I fail to see what relevance it had to the plot (maybe it will be of some importance later) So my problem with it is not that it’s `inappropriate’ but seems kind of useless. (Leo would have been a smarter choice as he was constantly referred to as the seventh wheel and always felt lonely and all. Di Angelo was just an introvert)Finally to all those who say they `saw it coming’; you guys are either geniuses or liars because these so called hints in the past books were no hints at all, once you read the book you were bound to feel that way. Which is why I am wondering exactly what has Riordan accomplished here.(I neither buy those “he’s just trying to make the world a better place” or “he’s a minion of the powerful gay lobby ‘arguments.)
H99 wrote: "Alyssa wrote: "To be honest, I don't like the series's interpretation of Gaea. Gaea is mother Earth. THerefore, as long as Earth itself and all the things that live upon it is alike, Gaea should te..."So Gaea is only awake enough to keep the Earth at its current pleasantness? Well said!
Wait, wait, wait.Let's focus on the real issue here.
Who reads stories featuring the Greek Gods and then gets shocked when there are homosexual relationships? Isn't that, like, a GIVEN possibility?
I think if you know going in that the story features Greek mythology, and you choose to read it anyways, you forfeit all right to be shocked by many, many things that might come up.
I TOTALLY DID NOT SEE THIS COMING
Yeah I agree Catherine so many of the Greek myths featured homosexuality. It's not surprising at all for it to come up. And I don't see why this has to matter to the plot at all, it matters to Nico's character development. He was always a character who's motives were hard to understand. One minute he was saying how great Percy was and the next he was avoiding him as if he couldn't stand him. Now we know why. It doesn't have to matter to the plot any more than Reyna being straight matters to the plot. It's not a big deal at all, it's just something that will help us understand Nico's character better.
Sheechiibii wrote: "Yeah I agree Catherine so many of the Greek myths featured homosexuality. It's not surprising at all for it to come up. And I don't see why this has to matter to the plot at all, it matters to Nico..."thank you!! someone finally said something meaningful (sorry if i spelled that wrong)
It was unexpected, but it doesn't matter whether Nico is gay. It was a message, that Mr Riordan was trying to send, that we as a society must be accepting and inclusive. As a 17 year old, i understand this. But would an 8 year old do/ nevertheless, i didn't expect this, but it fits Nico's story of why he left, etc.
Kaleb wrote: "I WILL not read the next book because of Nico, being gay is completely against the bible. I will not support these books anymore because of this. he is not doing the world a favor by doing this, RR..."Not to upset you or anything but you do know that there is no proof that god had any hand in writing the bible.And your being mean ( or jerk) calling out gay kids, they don't have a choice.People commit suicide because of people like you. Also if your burn your PJ books then I just might smite you.
Wow. People will actually burn the books. Seriously?
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