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message 151: by AnnainCA (new)

AnnainCA | 7 comments Could a Librarian please remove the Courtney Lynn books from this list?

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4...

I specified no self-published titles, and these were both self-published and voted for by the author.


message 152: by Z-squared (new)

Z-squared | 8575 comments 155 done


message 153: by Antonomasia (new)

Antonomasia | 514 comments A duplicate Listopia could be removed if all the people from the lower activity list had also voted on the higher activity list, couldn't it?

This is re. the 2014 Booker longlist. Although as yet only 2 of the 3 voters on the smaller list have also voted on the "main" one.


message 155: by Moloch (new)

Moloch | 3975 comments List with no sense

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...

List title is the title of a book, the "description" is the book plot, the reason why these books are featured is unknown


message 156: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Got 158, 159.


message 157: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 125 comments Rivka, what should librarians do about misconduct on listopia lists?

I removed one person's votes for wrong category and wrong publication date and explained why in the comment section, and then he went and added them back a few weeks later, and got his sockpuppets to also add some of them too.

I flagged the list and pointed out the problematic books, but GR doesn't seem to have taken action yet, and that was a couple weeks ago. Should I just remove all the books again? Or wait for GR to do something?


message 158: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited Aug 11, 2014 05:30PM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Rainbowheart wrote: "Rivka, what should librarians do about misconduct on listopia lists?"

Please feel free to send another message to the Contact Us link on the Help page. If books violate the list's stated guidelines, they may also be removed.


message 159: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments I don't know what this is, but I don't think it should be there.

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...


message 160: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Got 163.


message 161: by Rainbowheart (last edited Aug 11, 2014 09:51PM) (new)

Rainbowheart | 125 comments Thanks Rivka! I might do that, or I could just remove them myself. I try to be super responsible about deleting books. I don't want to remove something wrongly, so I always make a note as to why it was removed, but this is the first time I've had someone just ignore the explanation and re-add books I already deleted.

And I just had a fellow librarian change the description on a list *I* created to alter the rules, so I had to change it back and put a note in the comment section stating the purpose of the list. I didn't flag that person, but it annoyed me that someone would mess with a list I intended to be for a certain genre of book. If they wanted to add a different genre, they could have just created their own list.


message 163: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Got 166.


message 164: by Asteropê (last edited Aug 14, 2014 02:14AM) (new)

Asteropê (21tauri) | 151 comments What do we do when an author spams a list with their book when it's clearly not applicable to the list?

I came across this list: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...
"2015's Most Anticipated Book in a Series (Sci-fi/Fantasy)"

The idea of this list is for books published in 2015 to be listed. As can be seen from all the other votes - they're books that aren't out yet and are going to be in 2015. (I mean, unless I'm TOTALLY misreading it?)

But in the list, the author Lillian Roberts voted for her book - 2 editions of the same one. Published 2012, with a reprint 2014.

This is not 2015 - as the list title states!

See her votes: https://www.goodreads.com/list/user_v...

I wasn't sure if I should have deleted the votes or not.


message 165: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 31477 comments If you're a librarian Asteropê you can remove the books as they don't meet the criteria of the list.


message 166: by Asteropê (last edited Aug 14, 2014 03:31AM) (new)

Asteropê (21tauri) | 151 comments Okay! I wasn't sure. I do it on lists I've made, but not on others.

The "Deleting books that aren't will result in a loss of librarian privileges, and possible deletion of account." thing sort of made me hesitant, even if the books shouldn't be on the list. I guess at times I'm overly cautious? Lol.

Edit: I have removed the 3 books that were published prior to 2015 from the list. So that's dealt with.


message 167: by Rainbowheart (last edited Aug 14, 2014 08:34AM) (new)

Rainbowheart | 125 comments Asteropê wrote: "The "Deleting books that aren't will result in a loss of librarian privileges, and possible deletion of account." thing sort of made me hesitant, even if the books shouldn't be on the list. I guess at times I'm overly cautious? Lol."

That worries me too! I always try to make a note in the comment section as to why something was removed, but I don't want to accidentally remove the wrong thing and get someone pissed at me. Or get someone annoyed at me even if their book didn't belong on the list. There's a lot of sockpuppetry and some authors are very determined to spam their books to the top of every list, genre and category and publication date be damned.


message 168: by Sofia (new)

Sofia Lazaridou (sofiagreycullensalvatore) | 32 comments Rainbowheart wrote: "Asteropê wrote: "The "Deleting books that aren't will result in a loss of librarian privileges, and possible deletion of account." thing sort of made me hesitant, even if the books shouldn't be on ..."

I think that before the librarian status gets removed the person should have the chance to explain why they did it. Maybe instead of the little box that says "Are you sure you want to delete this book from the list" there should be another box where someone can say why they wanted to delete a book from the list.

If an author keeps adding his/her books to a list more than once even though they don't belong there, would it be ok to send them a pm and tell them not to? And if we risk losing our librarian status to remove those books shouldn't be something similar for people who keep adding wrong books to a list?


message 169: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments If a book is added to a list for the 'wrong' reasons like spamming, sockpuppetry, henchwomen, publishers gone mad, author on drugs, etc then it is easy enough to remove those books from the list. On the other hand, if we get the same spammers, socks, low-lifes, deleting books that challenge the position of their chosen book then it is damn near impossible to revert that change. That is one reason for the 'loss of librarian privileges' death-threat and in my opinion it is entirely justified.

I might PM an author and point out that they are not adding their books to appropriate lists but remember that Goodreads Authors very rarely seem to lose librarian privileges irrespective of what they do. They all know that so it is a waste of time and money effort to even mention it.


message 171: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
174 edited. 175 is vague, but it isn't violating any rules that I can see, and a bunch of people have voted on it.


message 172: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7014 comments Advertising and marketing

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...


message 173: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
177: Edited.


message 174: by Stefania (new)

Stefania (stefychi) | 2 comments Hi everyone,
I've created this listopia:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...

Is it possible to "close" it, so people can't add other books? It's based on a list contained in a book by an italian author, so there must be just the 100 books I've added.

Thanks!


message 175: by Banjomike (last edited Sep 02, 2014 08:55AM) (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments Stefania wrote: "Hi everyone,
I've created this listopia:

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...

Is it possible to "close" it, so people can't add other books? It's based on a list contained in a book by an italian author, so there must be just the 100 books I've added.

Thanks! "


I've made it into a 'static list'. That means only librarians (and the list creator) can add books.


message 176: by Stefania (new)

Stefania (stefychi) | 2 comments thank you Banjomike!


message 177: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...

Okay, this author obviously set up the list to promote his own books. He also seems to be the cover model for many of them.

Acceptable listopia?


message 178: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...

Totally confused by this one....but I feel like it should be deleted.


message 182: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl ?

Chad a person, or Chad the country?

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...


message 183: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Re 183: It's a general list, and appears to be open to contributions from other users.

Edited or deleted 184-188.


message 187: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4...

Can someone try to delete the duplicates on this? I tried it but it timed out.


message 188: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Skyla Happy Go Lucky and Lost in Books wrote: "I have asked this before a couple of times and have been told that authors are not allowed to add their own books or vote for their own books on Listopia lists as it constitutes SPAM."

That is not true, unless they are voting their books onto lists they don't fit (e.g. a contemporary YA romance novel onto Best Historical Fiction).


message 189: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Lobstergirl wrote: "Can someone try to delete the duplicates on this?"

Must have gone through, because I get "0 duplicates found and removed".


message 190: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Is it really necessary to create a listopia for books that won't be published for another four years? Seems extreme and ridiculous.

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7...


message 191: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Re 198: It violates no rules, and I expect there are other books which qualify. Plenty of publishing houses plan at least that far ahead.


message 192: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
julia wrote: "rivka - what about 182?"

Description edited. If the list needs updating, that can be worked on but isn't a reason to delete it altogether.


message 194: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Got 203.


message 196: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Got 205.


message 197: by AnnainCA (new)

AnnainCA | 7 comments Could a Librarian please remove the book Jesus Jackson from this list?

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4...

I specified that the list is only for children's fiction, and the vote in question is for a young adult novel. I tried asking the person who voted to remove it, but got no response.


message 198: by Z-squared (new)

Z-squared | 8575 comments 207 done


message 200: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Edited.


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