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What did you think of the epilogue?
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Jul 08, 2013 04:01PM
I'm personally conflicted about it so I'm asking you all:)
I LOVED the Epilogue. After finishing Clockwork Prince I realized I loved both of the boys, and I knew I would be happy with either of Tessa's decisions, but I'd still feel sad about the other boy. So, the Epilogue was a huge relief for me. I was crying so hard when Jem was saying goodbye to Tessa and Will, and I didn't want him to just join the Silent Brothers and live this lonely life, away from the people he loved the most. At the Epilogue, when Tessa was thinking about her life with Will, when she was describing he way he died...That was the most beautiful but yet the saddest thing I've ever read! I was happy and sad and I was crying for both of the boys AND for Tessa. And then comes Jem, being all normal, with his black hair and eyes, wearing normal clothes...I started crying even harder and I could not believe how relieved I felt! The Epilogue gave me some hope, that I wouldn't feel so sad about Will's death and Jem being Bro Zachariah and Tessa being alone. I loved the Epilogue, there's nothing I could complain about.
I didn't like it very much and I pretend it doesn't exist. I liked Jem, but I loved Will. I wanted the story to end with Will alive and with Tessa because I felt like she had enough time with Jem and she truly belonged with Will, not that I have anything against Jem but in my personal opinion Will is a better match for Tessa.
I liked the ending, however, I did not like Will's death! I cried so hard at that. And you know what? I'm happy she wants to do it all over again with Jem. He had to wait over a hundred years for them to truly be together, and he deserves his chance at happiness. He finally got rid of his illness and can live a normal life, so props to him. My guess is that the epilogue happened after the ending of The Mortal Instruments, and the TMI gang must've found the cure for the yin fen illness. It's so cool how Cassandra Clare practically left a cliffhanger at the end of the series! Such an intricate plot!! Guess I'll just have to wait till City of Heavenly Fire!! :)
I loved absolutely LOVED it. I was both happy and sad. I'm crying now just thinking about it.
Gross. She finally gets to brag she had sex with both friends...
I agree with Jeni! I truly believe Clare changed the ending because of fan's opinions. I straight up fugly cried while reading the epilogue. For a good portion of the epilogue it talked about you know who's death and I just couldn't. It was actually quite horrible. I'm all for happy endings...but that was too much. I thought about it for DAYS after.
For me, it was the best book of the year. The epilogue was more than perfect. I know that some people have this preconceived that when it comes to love triangles, there has to be a definite "winner" of the conflicted person's heart. Cassie is showing it doesn't have to be that way. The epilogue was beautiful. Sure, Will died, but it wasn't like he didn't have a fulfilling life.
This is a world where fantastical things happen all the time, where characters live longer than mundanes for various reasons. So, I can stand behind the idea that Tessa was able to reconcile her eros love for Jem more than 100 years after Will's death. Mundanes are able to find love again after being married to someone else for 10 years, why deprive Tessa of such a thing in the epilogue?
In regards to her leaving her family after Will's death, I suppose this can be frowned upon or understood. I'm on the understanding side of things. Tessa's strong, but she's not immune to pain, especially emotional pain. To know that she will continue to live while her loved ones grow old and die before her eyes, I can understand why. Many parents often say the children should never die before their parents, and Tessa, more than anyone else, would understand that.
I know some people will never like the epilogue, but one thing you can say about it is that you probably didn't see it coming, which for authors, can be a rare thing. I loved it, and for these three characters, it made perfect sense.
This is a world where fantastical things happen all the time, where characters live longer than mundanes for various reasons. So, I can stand behind the idea that Tessa was able to reconcile her eros love for Jem more than 100 years after Will's death. Mundanes are able to find love again after being married to someone else for 10 years, why deprive Tessa of such a thing in the epilogue?
In regards to her leaving her family after Will's death, I suppose this can be frowned upon or understood. I'm on the understanding side of things. Tessa's strong, but she's not immune to pain, especially emotional pain. To know that she will continue to live while her loved ones grow old and die before her eyes, I can understand why. Many parents often say the children should never die before their parents, and Tessa, more than anyone else, would understand that.
I know some people will never like the epilogue, but one thing you can say about it is that you probably didn't see it coming, which for authors, can be a rare thing. I loved it, and for these three characters, it made perfect sense.
I liked the ending. I don't fault Tessa for moving on and I believe she truly did love both of them. It was a wonderful ending to the series.
I cried my eyes out when Tessa was looking back on her life with Will :c I just cant think that he's dead its so sad and depressing :c and then the part when he's in his last hours on the bed and everyone comes to say bye to him :c man why cant you come back to life and come be with me and let Tessa have jem!!
Alex and will for ever <3
Alex and will for ever <3
horrible, Clare couldn't stick to her guns like Collins or Roth...and i know a lot of people who hate Mockingjay and Allegiant ,but at least the endings didn't look too artificial....It just makes Tessa look like a selfish user. She can't stay with her kids, grandkids and the rest of posterity for the reason we-already-know, so why would she do it again with Jem?. Secondly the epi just makes the whole silent brother thing seem like a joke, like it was just there so Tessa and Jem could have their chance. Nothing can be more contrived. Plus the whole equal love thing. Is love such a thing that it can be measured? nope just another weak reasoning to support the awful epi.
I loved the epilogue and it was very well written and it makes you realize how hard that would be to live forever. This ending did make me cry and when ever I think of it I want to cry. I mean just think she has out lived her children and her children's children while she is about to get together with Jem and he is now mortal and she is going to have to go through his death too. It was a great ending though.
I did NOT like the epilogue! Tessa was indecisive through out the WHOLE seires and she was still indecisive at the end. She never TRULY chose between Will and Jem and it kind of pissed me off because you can't have it both ways!
I loved this trilogy...and the epilogue tied things up for me which was nice because I like closure as well but it left me with mixed feelings. I did want to know more about Will and Tessa's life together but that mostly stems from the fact that I LOVE WILL!! I would have preferred it to end with Will and Tessa's wedding or some other major event in their life together. I'm not sure how I feel about Tessa and Jem...but Jem truly loves her and is a nice guy...def seems like it was written to please Jem lovers as well as Will lovers. I really like how it's set shortly after City of Heavenly Fire which ties the 2 series together.
I bawled uncontrollably when Tessa was remembering her life with Will and when he died (*sniff sniff tears*). I didn't like the fact that she left her family. I get that it's probably ridiculously hard to watch your children grow old and die while you don't age, but like Magnus told her, you bear the unbearable. I found it a little selfish on her part only because I know how much it means to me to have even one grandparent alive...I thought she was stronger than that basically fending for herself with no parents, aunt and a brother who tried to kill her. Anyway, enough ranting. I'm anxiously awaiting TLH to be written and released but CoHF will have to do for now.
I bawled uncontrollably when Tessa was remembering her life with Will and when he died (*sniff sniff tears*). I didn't like the fact that she left her family. I get that it's probably ridiculously hard to watch your children grow old and die while you don't age, but like Magnus told her, you bear the unbearable. I found it a little selfish on her part only because I know how much it means to me to have even one grandparent alive...I thought she was stronger than that basically fending for herself with no parents, aunt and a brother who tried to kill her. Anyway, enough ranting. I'm anxiously awaiting TLH to be written and released but CoHF will have to do for now.
The epilogue was unacceptable to put it simply. I mean, I loove Jem, but TEAM WILL all the way!!! I will not accept this at all because what happened to Will DID NOT happen ever!!!! OBVIOUSLY!!!
I did not enjoy the epilogue because of what happened to Will.
My perfect ending:
Tessa and Jem end up together (they are a great couple)
Will and I end up together
BEST ENDING EVER!!!!
XD
I did not enjoy the epilogue because of what happened to Will.
My perfect ending:
Tessa and Jem end up together (they are a great couple)
Will and I end up together
BEST ENDING EVER!!!!
XD
I absolutely loved the ending! SO MUCH FEELS. I thought it was too perfect though? I'm not sure how i felt... I was happy, sad, and a million other feels. I know why Cassandra Clare ended it like that, but it's just too perfect?! I loved loved when Jem was playing his violin at Will's deathbed. Like omg i was crying my eyes out! It was so beautiful and i do think it was a perfect ending to a perfect series.
I loved the ending and always will, for I believe that true love will always prevail, and both of then loved Tess and she them. so truly loved the ending although I wished that Will wouldn't die but he did so with reason, so I am a head to tail fan of Cassandra Clare, she has never and will never fail me, as a reader and I hope the same was for all other fans of her books.
I don't like the ending. It is written for the satisfaction of people who wants Tessa and Jem together. I do believe you can't love two people equally. Unless you put them in different categories. And that's were I'm confused. Does Tessa love Jem romantically? Is her affection for him sisterly or friendly?
And it's like Tessa only chose Will because he's not immortal. So why not make Will happy while he's alive, and be with Jem forever if he ever gets better. Which he did, Jem got better. Now what? They'll be together, forever? You can't have both! Life is full of choices. And with that I think Tessa chose Jem.
And it's like Tessa only chose Will because he's not immortal. So why not make Will happy while he's alive, and be with Jem forever if he ever gets better. Which he did, Jem got better. Now what? They'll be together, forever? You can't have both! Life is full of choices. And with that I think Tessa chose Jem.
I don't think the epilogue was needed. It seemed to me that it was a way to let Tessa have the best of both worlds. A double happy ending. It didn't fit well with the feel of the rest of the series, which tended to be a bit darker. I liked the ending as it was before the epilogue.
To quote Mick, "You don't always get what you want..."
To quote Mick, "You don't always get what you want..."
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Mar 20, 2014 02:19AM
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I liked it, not hate it or loved it. It was really, really predictable.
I really loved the epilogue!!!! I was crying also but it was a happy and sad cry, it was a WIN WIN for both Will and Jem and I was so happy to see Jem maybe have some happiness in his life too, he deserved it as well because I loved both Will and Jem . I couldn't have thought of a more PERFECT ending!!! Now I just wish her current series would get to some kind of ending for Jase and Clary as well because I'm getting frustated!
personally kay-my opinion
I LOVED THE ENDING!!
but i cried cos' wats the point of immortal life if you see all those you love die?
I LOVE JEM AND WILL AND I BELEIVE THAT BOTH GUYS HAVE A CHANCE IS GOOD.HONESTLY I LOVE BOTH OF THEM.when i thought dat jem died i cried like a friggin baby no joke
JUST SAYING-HOW DO YOU CHOOSE BETWEEN JEM AND WILL? I LOVE BOTH.
just curious how did they find the cure?
I LOVED THE ENDING!!
but i cried cos' wats the point of immortal life if you see all those you love die?
I LOVE JEM AND WILL AND I BELEIVE THAT BOTH GUYS HAVE A CHANCE IS GOOD.HONESTLY I LOVE BOTH OF THEM.when i thought dat jem died i cried like a friggin baby no joke
JUST SAYING-HOW DO YOU CHOOSE BETWEEN JEM AND WILL? I LOVE BOTH.
just curious how did they find the cure?
The epilogue really disappointed me. I love Jem, but I never really saw Jem and Tessa together. I try to pretend the epilogue doesn't really happen. And I agree with Jeni. It was a cop-out on Cassandra's part. It's too perfect. Will/Tessa/Jem was the only love triangle I actually liked reading about. Cassandra succeeded in making me love the characters so much that I felt both, joy and gut-wrenching pain while reading the trilogy. However, Clare negates the whole romantic plot in the epilogue. What's the point of having a love triangle if she's going to get both the guys in the end? The 'loved them equally' part didn't really get to me. I just wonder, did Tessa even love /one/ of them? Because whatever you may say, I believe that you can't love two people equally in the romantic sense at one point of time.
I love it. It was perfect, I cried a lot, I had to stop reading just because I couldn´t see, It was really really special!
I liked the epilogue because Tessa both got to a chance to spend her life with both of them in the end, but I also hated it at the same time. It felt like to me she only had the life with Will because she couldn't with Jem. But since Will had died, she would just basically throw the love for him away and finally happy about being with Jem. So the epilogue gave me mixed feelings, and yes it did seem like a total cop-out at some points.
It made me cry, and depressed, but happy at the same time,at least Will got to spend his life with Tessa.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT! It made me bawl for about 20 minutes and them I erupted in applause. Yep, great ending to a great series.
ms clare built up a huge drama around jem. then she made him SB for more than a century. for final touch in the epilogue, the mystery cure surfaced.
I am madly in love with jem. but i cried for that guy and spent 3 days walking like a zombie gone mindless with grief.
I had wrapped my mind around him being a SB and i almost got bored with Will and his life with Tessa. i was willing to move on. this epilogue even though made me excessively happy, it is short lived. I lost interest in the trio. she should have ended with Jem and not will. besides the word love is used so loosely in this book i wonder why i even bother to get attached to the characters.
i love it that jem is back and they have a promising 30-40 years together. were i jem, i would look for some one new. tessa cheated on him immediately upon hearing of his death.
I am madly in love with jem. but i cried for that guy and spent 3 days walking like a zombie gone mindless with grief.
I had wrapped my mind around him being a SB and i almost got bored with Will and his life with Tessa. i was willing to move on. this epilogue even though made me excessively happy, it is short lived. I lost interest in the trio. she should have ended with Jem and not will. besides the word love is used so loosely in this book i wonder why i even bother to get attached to the characters.
i love it that jem is back and they have a promising 30-40 years together. were i jem, i would look for some one new. tessa cheated on him immediately upon hearing of his death.
Brilliant, so sad but the bit that made me cry the most was when Tessa goes to Magnus and he says the first ones always the hardest.
I didn't love it. I thought however it was a nice ending for Jessa fans, but I, myself, was never a big fan of them because their relationship never seemed as strong as Wessa. (No hate to Jessa tho)
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The part about Will's death made me cry. I swear it's not easy for me to cry during books but this is one of the moments where I did. It was so awesome knowing that he died with both Tessa and Jem by his side but I still cried for like a week.
And that Jessa moment I freaking died, it was beautiful and I feel like CC is the only person who makes a love triangle work out on both sides XD.
The part about Will's death made me cry. I swear it's not easy for me to cry during books but this is one of the moments where I did. It was so awesome knowing that he died with both Tessa and Jem by his side but I still cried for like a week.
And that Jessa moment I freaking died, it was beautiful and I feel like CC is the only person who makes a love triangle work out on both sides XD.
I adored the epilogue. I never truly felt her and Jem would work because of how passionate her and Will's love for one another was throughout the series. Her and Jem's relationship, I felt, was so one sided, Jem was so irrevocably in love with Tessa and although I felt she loved him, I don't think it was that world stopping love that she had for Will. When she was calling Jem's name out toward the end instead of Will's, I felt it was so out of character and her talk with Jem (Brother Zachariah) was just so out of place, that the rest of the book was just a disappointment for me. Then I read the epilogue, how she thought back on her life with Will, until he passed was so beautiful and tragic, the love that I had remembered they shared for one another, was so clear and my heart just broke for her. I understood why she had to leave her family- having to watch everyone you love and care for pass away right before your eyes for eternity is unspeakably horrific. Then Jem shows up; after all these years of grieving and facing the passing century alone and here is the only person who could ever understand, the only one who ever could. Will had been gone for years and although she will always keep him in her heart, she deserved a chance with someone else, someone who loved her just as Will did: and someone who loved Will just as much as she did. I thought it was just a beautifully bittersweet ending to their story.
I absolutley adored the epilogue. It was so wonderful. After probably a hundreds years after Will died she moved on with the only other man she loved.I couldn't have asked for a better ending.
The only thing I wondered was in the later Mortal Instruments series does Jace meet Tess his Great (many greats) Grandmother.
The only thing I wondered was in the later Mortal Instruments series does Jace meet Tess his Great (many greats) Grandmother.
I was previously not a fan of the series but the epilogue...okay it was perfect but horrible and an absolutely heartbreaking tearjerker.
Even when I re-read Clockwork Angel a few days ago I teared up when Jem and Tessa go to Blackfriars Bridge.
Even when I re-read Clockwork Angel a few days ago I teared up when Jem and Tessa go to Blackfriars Bridge.
The epilogue ruined me. That's pretty much all there is to say about it. :P
I thought it was a complete cop-out. I was severely disappointed. I understand this will not be a popular comment, but I was furious.
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I can't get behind this ending. I was much more entranced with the heart-wrenching choice she had to make between the two men. Now, it's all negated because there never had to be one. It made me dislike Tessa and I was so frustrated with CC!
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I can't get behind this ending. I was much more entranced with the heart-wrenching choice she had to make between the two men. Now, it's all negated because there never had to be one. It made me dislike Tessa and I was so frustrated with CC!
I loved it. I was a jessa fan since the very beginning, and I read TID after reading TMI so imagine my feels when I read that Jem became Brother Zachariah, i couldnt stop crying. I didn't like the fact that Tessa got to be with both of them, I mean, I know both Jem and Will "are one of the same" but honestly, that is not what I imagined to be. No. I cannot get over these books anyway
Hated it, it was cheesy and overlong and devalued almost all of the time I invested in reading it.
If Clare so badly needed Tessa to have both men, it would have been less stupid (and more ballsy) to just have them be in an open marriage. Honestly. She wouldn't want to offend everyone's delicate sensibilities with such a thing though, so rather than doing the hard thing and making Tessa choose she tweaked her entire plot to get what she wanted out of it.
This is inexcusable in storytelling.
If Clare so badly needed Tessa to have both men, it would have been less stupid (and more ballsy) to just have them be in an open marriage. Honestly. She wouldn't want to offend everyone's delicate sensibilities with such a thing though, so rather than doing the hard thing and making Tessa choose she tweaked her entire plot to get what she wanted out of it.
This is inexcusable in storytelling.
Don't like the Epilogue very much. It ruined the whole series for me. The equal love was not convincing at all. It feels that Cassie wanted to keep all fans happy, by presenting that ridiculous plot in order for Tessa to get both boys.
I actually really enjoyed the ending that cc gave to the series thought it rounded it all off nicely. it wasn't all just a big happy ending there was all emotions and she gave you an explanation instead off just skating over it,well written. find it hard to believe that some people have said "ruined the whole series" each book is brilliant in its own right. All though I do respect everyone has the right to voice there opinion, I cant see how you can just write off the wholes series because you didn't like the epilogue,
The epilogue was the worst part. my heart broke so many times just reading it. and it's another 'sadie kane.' i didnt like how she got both of them...
I loved it...I think CC figure it out a way to make all happy.
I didn't like the epilogue very much. Yes, it was great till we see Will die. After that it just reminded me of how selfish Tessa actually was. A little part of me always felt that Tessa was selfish , stringing both boys along. I felt she was even more selfish when upon thinking Jem was gone, she slept with Will and then felt remorseful afterwards. The beginning of the epilogue eased that thought of Tessa being selfish out of my mind, that was until she walked away from her family, and then just picking up off where she left off with Jem. The whole "she loved them equally" didn't work too well with me. Being a Will fan , I would rather she ended with Jem from the beginning rather than have the whole "equally loves them both".
I have a question about Jem.
If they already found a cure for his illness and he's a mortal again, then how come in TMI there is Brother Zachariah again. Does this mean that he joined the Silent Brother twice?
Any theory about this?
If they already found a cure for his illness and he's a mortal again, then how come in TMI there is Brother Zachariah again. Does this mean that he joined the Silent Brother twice?
Any theory about this?
The only problem I had with the epilouge was, to be honest, the fact that Tessa got to be with Jem in the end too. I thought it was a little too perfect that Tessa got to have both of the boys. It's not that I don't like Jem (love him) but as a story it just felt forced and more like Clare did it to keep all the fans happy than anything else. Sometimes endings doesn't have to be perfect, they can still be good. It's not that I want Tessa to be unhappy but I felt it was just a bit over the top. It would have been more realistic (also heartbreaking) to just see her end up with one of them.
i loved the ending soooooooooo much <3 the first time in the book series Cassandra gave a good ending and made us relax...though i cried a lot :/ and i'm afraid of what she is going to do in Tmi cause of this ending :/
i know alot of people are mad about the endin cuz tessa got both boys but really what other book with a love triangle has done that. i loved it. it was really different. the only part that mad me kinda mad was how jem was healed but didnt find out how, crossing my fingers for COHF. but all the other stuff fitted well.
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