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Totally peeved that somehow we got seperated at birth. :-)
I hate that it is difficult to find the superheroes comics with Apollo/Midnighter and find the right comics I want to buy, first I have surf the net in almost 2 hours to find the vol and issue from the Authority and the right on, then try to find the titels *grrr* that was not easy :-( but I found out at last, that only take me 4 hours WTF

I can just see them in the DIY store having this conversation:
"What shall we use to tile the bathroom, love?"
"Hmm, I'm not sure. Sponge sure looks good though."
Dickheads.

Tell me about it. For years, I would watch my childhood friends take off in their boats and cars on Good Friday for ..."
I love how this thread goes from childhood Holy Week remembrances to thick firemens hoses all lubed up. Quite the juxtaposition.
My childhood remembrances of Holy Week starts with the triumphal entry of Jesus into Jerusalem and either singing in the children's choir or ringing handbells or both. Then we skip to Easter with new clothes and candy filled baskets--no Maundy Thursday or Good Friday for this boy. Leaving my conservative Presbyterian church and joining a left leaning Episcopal church brought me a completely new understanding. Starting with a triumphal entry at the begining of Palm Sunday with a huge procession with palm fronds banners, flags and lots of kids to the rewarding of the Passion and with a bang we were brought to what Holy Week is really about. Then Maundy Thrusday and feet washing (OMG-- in front of everyone?). Good Friday 3 hour service--5 sermons, at least 6 major choral works and several hyms, Tenebre service at night. Easter Vigil Saturday night and finally 3 Easter services Sunday morning. Oh my! From very simple to extremely elaborate-- and I loved every minut of it.
Here's my main complaint, now that we are back to a Presbyterian church, Palm Sunday did not conclude with the passion--my favorite service of the year ruined. Good Friday will actually be good as we are singing the Duruflé Requiem with orchestra, no Easter Vigil and only 1 Easter service. That part I do like as 3 was way too much. Clergy and church musicians earn every penny this time of year.

FIRST I would like to emphasise that firemen and women provide a crucial public service :)
THEN I would like to reminice (about Firemen not Holy Week).I can remember last year this fire engine turned down my road which is a cul de sac. Of course I boldly stood on my doorstep to observe them with a pastoral eye (ogling) and I smiled and waved at them only to turn round and see my quiet and mousy next door neighbour doing exactly the same thing!!
Firemen dont you just love them *sigh* and now back to Holy Week :)

Tell me about it. For years, I would watch my childhood friends take off in their boats and cars on G..."
I am flummoxed to find that I absolutely agree with Jerry about Holy Week and especially about foot washing
(Then Maundy Thursday and feet washing (OMG-- in front of everyone?)
Jerry - My sentiments exactly!!
I took the Maundy Thursday service last night with foot washing. I always feel rather peculiar about foot washing. It is a really intimate action. One of my clergy colleagues insisted on using disinfected water which was amusing. I did the washing and my vicar did the towelling.
Afterwards I told my vicar that if any goes wrong with our church work we can always take up work as foot masseurs. :)
I am sure the day will come when I will be able to look upon foot washing with complete holiness but for now I still find it weirdly freeky :0

Tell me about it. For years, I would watch my childhood friends take off in their boats..."
I am slightly disconcerted that despite having attended Catholic mass for 12 years with my husband AND graduating from a Jesuit university (Go Marquette, kick butt tomorrow!) I have no idea what you are talking about. Now I feel like I've missed something.

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Girl, you missed nothing. My childhood years of Easter season were successive periods of boring, tear-inducing drudgery, the more so when all my Australian/British/Kiwi/African/Melanesian friends were happily waving goodbye and driving/sailing/riding/taking off on Good Friday for their long weekend holiday, while my family were to be stuck at home in grim, dutiful observance of Good Friday. My mother imposed this severity no matter where we were living in the world, as a way of observing Filipino Catholic tradition.
Except for perhaps the Ethiopian Coptic Church and the Spanish Catholic Church, no one can match the devotional fervour and intensity with which Filipino Catholics observe Easter. From Shrove Tuesday, things slowly build to a funereal, fever pitch, and by Good Friday, Manila, the capital city of the Philippines, and a city of almost twelve million people, comes to a grinding halt. Nothing moves, nobody leaves the house, and no one drives, especially by three o'clock in the afternoon when Jesus was said to have breathed his last. It's astonishing to witness how dead and how still Manila's streets become. There are Easter processions, or "Passion Plays", of a somber and sometimes macabre nature, where little old ladies, swathed in black veils walk on their knees on asphalt or cobblestone streets, for part of the procession, while others, usually men, as a profession of their faith, have themselves nailed through their palms or wrists, to a wooden cross, and then are paraded through city and town streets, in imitation of Christ. It gets pretty gruesome, and this has gone on for hundreds of years.
I had a very happy childhood, marked by many joyous occasions, but Easter, all of it, from start to finish, was definitely not one of them, and as a consequence, my associations with Easter have never been pleasant ones. It was only later, when I was sent off to boarding school at thirteen, and essentially stopped living at home, that I was able to escape the oppressive, cross-like weight of the Easter season.
Now, I'm a resolutely wayward, willfully nonobservant Catholic, only going to Mass when I happen to be around my parents on a Sunday and my mum compels me to. But that's a complaint for another time.


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Girl, you missed nothing. My childhood years of Easter season were successive periods of boring, ..."
If I were in any other thread I would hug you but since I'm not, I am going to complain that your Easters sucked. I thought mine were bad. I didn't grow up with a lot of money so, not realizing that there was MORE to Easter than pretty dresses and candy, I was always upset when the Easter bunny failed to bring me a pretty dress and more candy than my little body could possible consume.
Ijeoma, you made me hungry. I love sausage :-0 Hopefully you get to enjoy it tonight.

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Girl, you missed nothing. My childhood years of Easter season were successive periods of boring, ..."
Aves,
I am so sorrowful that you were not born Episcopalian. Just think of all those long dresses, I mean cossacks and surplices, with so many different colors for the different seasons. Plus you get to swing a burning purse in church! And the alter guild where you can indulge in flower arranging and meddling in other people's business. And, at least in the USA, you can be gay and marry your husband and still be a priest or bishop!

Ahahaha!!!!Right on, man! Hey, don't you know, it was the Episcopalians who borrowed those amazing drag outfits from the Catholics? I have a memory of one particular mass, when I imagined the bishop swinging the burning incense urn to and fro, as Tinker Bell waving her fairy wand, and fell into a fit of giggles, the uncontrollable, unstoppable kind you only have on solemn occasions, that is, until Mama pinched my waist with her long, red-lacquered and very sharp fingernails...Owww!!!!
And didn't you notice how partial the previous Pope Benedict was to his ruby red shoes? Oh, Dorothy!

I'm a well educated woman that does not judge. I truly try to get to know a person before forming an opinion of them and I never judge people based on another's perceptions. I trust my instincts. So yes, its still jarring when someone assumes its ok to call my husband a n- lover and to assume our children are bastards ruining what was supposed to be a family fun day at the park. I will always embrace the disenfranchised and those who exist via the fringe of society because I too, know how it feels to be dismissed, despised and sneered at for being black and a woman. I smiled at the bastard and told him clearly, I fight my own battles my husband fights the wars. Did it feel good to have him laid out flat on his back 30 seconds later via this little woman? Yes, it did. He grabbed my hand as I was limping away with my children ( My leg is recovering from a break). But that's not the example I want to set for my girls and my heart breaks that they witnessed that. if it wasn't for the fact that this neighborhood ranks #1 for schools and being "Family friendly" I would sell our house in a heartbeat. For the most part the Suburb is amazing, however; its experiences like this that makes me question if we made the right move leaving "the city" ( Chicago).
Some of you here received a friend request from me on GR and I thank you for accepting it. I chose you because there's something engaging about you. I try to surround myself with down to earth good people who say what they mean in a mutually respectful way without apology.

That man's behaviour was beyond reprehensible. And good for you. I bet that fixed him. I don't think your daughters witnessing you fighting back will do them any harm. At all.

Darling Macky, may I steal it for one little line in my LHNB storylet?
Pwetty pweeease?"
Oops, to late. Already did. I dinnit say it, he say it! And jus..."
I'm totally and annoyingly happy say that I am honoured and fluffing proud to have inspired you to use one of my humble offerings in your obviously wonderful story. You didn't need to pwettty pweaaaase me .... You had me at darling Macky! * sigh*

Anya I think what your children witnessed was a strong, proud woman defending herself and her family against an obvious racist b*****d who only showed himself up for being the small man he is. I'm just so sorry that you and your family had to go through such an appalling incident and have your special day together spoilt. I salute you for your courage and I sincerely hope he was left humiliated and physically hurting!

Hi Aves!
I don't like violence, never have but when you're raised as the child of a policeman in a 3rd world country, it's imperative you know how to defend yourself. My generation was taught how to properly defend ourselves. I never taught my daughters to defend themselves, because while I understood the necessity back home, I felt that skill set was something they wouldn't need here in the states. I regret my short sighted decision and I plan to remedy that as soon as I get better.


I was born and baptized Episcopalian and even was an acolyte (Episcopalian word for alter boy) as a kid. Mostly I wore a red cassock with a white surplice with a red ribbon necklace that supported a gaily "tasteful" silver cross. I had to assist the priest every Sunday at the 7:00 am service which wasn't fair—having to get up at 6:00 am on a Sunday.
Under my robes I wore jeans and a muscle shirt. I was a jock even as a kid. Albeit a jock in an ecclesiastical gown with coordinating accessories.
During Holy Week I liked doing the service of Tenebrae where there was candelabra holding many lit candles. Gradually during the service each candle is extinguished until there is only one candle left and the lights in the church were turned off.
Then I carried the candle out of view so the congregation was in total darkness. After an appropriate wait I carried the candle back in and placed it back in its place symbolizing the return of Christ (see John 8:12) the Light of the World. Then the congregation left in complete silence.
That was a long time ago. You can't wake me before noon on a Sunday now.

Sounds deliciously subversive, especially the muscle shirt part!
I was the farthest thing from a jock when I was growing up but I got to play all the team sports - football (soccer), Australian Rules football, rugby and cricket, solely because it was required PE activity in school, and I was forced to. On top of that, if I wanted to hang out with all my friends, I had to play after school too!
My only satisfaction for playing all these jock sports at which I was terribly inept, was, since I couldn't throw, bat, dribble, kick, mark, tackle or run very fast, I often got flattened by the biggest, beefiest, burliest, chunky thighed, sweaty, smelly, grunting, growling, hunky school boys. LOVED IT!
I've heard Episcopalians describe Episcopalianism as "Catholicism-Lite".

That's what disturbs me. This behavior is a social norm in some cases. I haven't experienced something like this since my husband and I first started dating. I got lulled into a false sense that this is dwindling out... until it happens again and you wonder how much has the world changed? People like that jerk make me sick. My own culture is this way in thinking too which disgusts me since I personally, have no tolerance for intolerance.

I have to say I am so sorry you and your family experienced this. I seriously have no words to describe how angry that makes me. Unfortunately, I am one of those crazy people who when I see a family like yours will look you in the eye and smile really big because it makes me happy. I know, I am a dork. I do the same thing when I see a same sex couple. And the fact that he grabbed your hand is beyond acceptable and he got exactly what he deserved.

Sounds deliciously subversive, especially the muscle shirt part!
I was the farthest thing from a joc..."I've heard Episcopalians describe Episcopalianism as "Catholicism-Lite".
Yes, so have I. However, I like to think of it as having all the best parts of the Catholic Church (like real music instead of hum and strum), but being able to keep your mind open and skip all the guilt.

Sounds deliciously subversive, especially the muscle shirt part!
I was the farthest thi..."
That's what I have noticed. My brother-in-law and sister-in-law go to an Episcopalian church and I not only enjoy the mass more but am less likely to hear something come out of the priest's mouth that makes me want to get up and leave, which has happened a few times at our Catholic church.

Kendra wrote: "makes me want to get up and leave, which has happened a few times at our Catholic Church"
Amen. Catholic masses would be so perfect if the priests would just keep their mouths shut during the homily.

Kendra wrote: "makes me want to get up and leave, which has happened a few times at our Catholic Chur..."
One side of my family were practising Catholics until the local priest treated my nana very cruelly after she lost one of her children. Because of that I was brought up in the Methodist faith until my late teens but I'm afraid organized religion and I fell out a long time ago... I still have beliefs but I don't feel the need to go to a church to pray or worship many more.


Especially is the priest is gay or lesbian. The Episcopal Church even has a Bishop who is a gay woman. I'm not saying every Episcopal church is without some butthole bigots, but there has been a bit of progress made. Still there is a long way to go since Episcopal priests can only bless same gender unions; a marriage ceremony still is not allowed.

Jerry wrote: "This actually depends on the dioces and rector. All Saints Pasadena has done gay marriages and will again once Prop 8 is history. Rev. Ed Bacon is fearless and 2 of LA's 3 bishops are lesbians."
On July 9, 2012, the Episcopal Church passed a resolution approving an official liturgy for blessing same-sex unions. This liturgy, called “The Witnessing and Blessing of a Lifelong Covenant” offers a blessing close to marriage, but the church is clear that it is not marriage.
The wise and obviously enlightened Father Bacon may do same-gender marriages but the Protestant Episcopal Church of America does't recognize those marriages and he is violating canon law.
The Episcopal church has improved since at one time the only rite a Priest could use for a gay or lesbian couple was the liturgy for blessing of a home. Still falls short as does it's Anglican "cousin" the Church of England which still defines marriages being between a man and a woman. But as a priest in the C of E, Ijeoma would be the best source for any potential progress there.
It's all just dogma anyway and I hate stepping in dogma. yuck!
On July 9, 2012, the Episcopal Church passed a resolution approving an official liturgy for blessing same-sex unions. This liturgy, called “The Witnessing and Blessing of a Lifelong Covenant” offers a blessing close to marriage, but the church is clear that it is not marriage.
The wise and obviously enlightened Father Bacon may do same-gender marriages but the Protestant Episcopal Church of America does't recognize those marriages and he is violating canon law.
The Episcopal church has improved since at one time the only rite a Priest could use for a gay or lesbian couple was the liturgy for blessing of a home. Still falls short as does it's Anglican "cousin" the Church of England which still defines marriages being between a man and a woman. But as a priest in the C of E, Ijeoma would be the best source for any potential progress there.
It's all just dogma anyway and I hate stepping in dogma. yuck!

@Aves, sounds like an awful way to spend Easter. I grew up Catholic but obviously not as hard core as you.
@Anya, I think you did the right thing. Yes, we never like our children to see violence but unfortunately with the whole still having a**holes we do have to defend ourselves. I'm married to a Hispanic man (I am white) and my daughter has learned that NO ONE can touch her without permission and it's ok to enforce that anyway necessary. She's had to do that too! She has also had to deal with prejudice that is out there. True that she does have it easier than you. I hope that her generation will have less of these b#####ds to deal with.
Tj wrote: "I hope that her generation will have less of these b#####ds to deal with. "
I hate racism, sexism, agism, and all the other isms but the thing I hate most is men who touch women. I'm sorry that guy touched Anya but really pleased that she gave him worse. Tj, I'm horrified your daughter had to deal with this too. Hope is good. I hope her generation has it better too.
I hate racism, sexism, agism, and all the other isms but the thing I hate most is men who touch women. I'm sorry that guy touched Anya but really pleased that she gave him worse. Tj, I'm horrified your daughter had to deal with this too. Hope is good. I hope her generation has it better too.


Tj wrote: "WTF! What is up with my in-laws and the bathroom! First it's the bleach (which I can't stand the smell of, gives me a headache, and if daughter is home sets off her asthma) and then it's plugging..."
:::sigh::: That's disgusting. Aren't they ever leaving? Do they plan on staying forever? If so, you arrange a little "accident" I'll help you bury the bodies.
Heartfelt condolences—Lucas
:::sigh::: That's disgusting. Aren't they ever leaving? Do they plan on staying forever? If so, you arrange a little "accident" I'll help you bury the bodies.
Heartfelt condolences—Lucas


Goesta wrote: "I begrudge that I was moderately intrigued that my choice was among the top three, "
I'm denettered and surprised you voted for early music. I thought you would do a write-in vote for funeral dirges.
I voted for classical and considered medieval to be a sub-set because I also wanted to include composers like Shostakovich and Philip Glass and may a few Scarlatti piano sonatas.
In early music I'd highly recommend Camino De Santaiago from the Studio der Frühen Musik (Thomas Binkley) and a real favorite of mine Tarentule-Tarentelle by the Atrium Musicae de Madrid (Gregorio Peniagua); You'd never guess the range and variety of medieval tarantellas.
See you online big guy. Hugs, Lucas
I'm denettered and surprised you voted for early music. I thought you would do a write-in vote for funeral dirges.
I voted for classical and considered medieval to be a sub-set because I also wanted to include composers like Shostakovich and Philip Glass and may a few Scarlatti piano sonatas.
In early music I'd highly recommend Camino De Santaiago from the Studio der Frühen Musik (Thomas Binkley) and a real favorite of mine Tarentule-Tarentelle by the Atrium Musicae de Madrid (Gregorio Peniagua); You'd never guess the range and variety of medieval tarantellas.
See you online big guy. Hugs, Lucas

Macky wrote: "Yo Lucas... You is fly with the medieval Tarantellas dawg! Youre dropping' it like its hot Holmes... All up in my face with your mad classicall skills, foshizzle! Mad props homefry... Fa real! You ..."
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You kids with your hip street slang are just too much. I don't know what to think of this modern generation. I have no idea if I was insulted or complimented.
@Macky
You kids with your hip street slang are just too much. I don't know what to think of this modern generation. I have no idea if I was insulted or complimented.
Macky wrote: "Yo Lucas... You is fly with the medieval Tarantellas dawg! Youre dropping' it like its hot Holmes... All up in my face with your mad classicall skills, foshizzle! Mad props homefry... Fa real! You ..."
Wow Macky you look really hot today! <-smiling->
Wow Macky you look really hot today! <-smiling->

@cmbwey.. Yo why you gettin all up in ma face... Innit! You still my holmes dawg!! We tight man ... Bust some Cumbaya round the campfire and all that s***t.... Roastin' nuts and those fluffy thangs.... Sharin' firemen cos I'm hookin' you up!
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I thought you said he wasn't here!?! He just created a new thread about general chatter about Goodreads and now we are all going to get in trouble! I HATE getting in trouble :-(