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message 1: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
You guys have shared some speculations directly with me, and wrestled a few hints out of me ... so here's a topic where you can speculate all you want.

(And if I've told you something in an email, it's perfectly fine to discuss that here. I don't think I've told anyone anything too spoilery.)

Also, my pinterest board has lots of hints for the future books, so feel free to peruse (As I've noticed many of you already doing ...) https://www.pinterest.com/kladybug/st...


message 2: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Andrew's mom comes back in book 5. Hehehehe.


message 3: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (wordfitlyspoken) | 176 comments Heheh... *raises hand sheepishly* Yeah, that was me stalking Pinterest and wrestling hints.


message 4: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Ha ha...me too.


message 5: by Amanda (last edited May 26, 2015 11:06AM) (new)

Amanda (wordfitlyspoken) | 176 comments *high fives*

I forget what it was she said, though. *goes back to scour those emails*


message 6: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Okay, so my Pinterest meter indicates that Reuben and Petra are a couple, and Petra is the Tela Du, who is going to kill Amber. (Am I right?)


message 7: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (wordfitlyspoken) | 176 comments OKAY!

- She doesn't kill characters. (Mwuahaha...)
- Explanation about the kids thing (in case anyone besides me was confused and dismayed): "Um, the kids thing. Yeah, that's one of the hazards of world traveling, especially when romance is involved. (Not one that many people bring up, but said kids will be important in later volumes, so I did.) Timothea, at eight, is the youngest, and Klark's about twenty-one when they leave. The two middle girls, Anita and Elizabeth are both Tied by that point, which meant that only the youngest three are left at loose ends, and between their older siblings and Jill Anna and Jakob, they're kept in line."


message 8: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (wordfitlyspoken) | 176 comments Oh yeah, I was on to the whole Tela Du thing. I mean, she was mentioned so many times, I knew it was going to be book two...

Don't know about the Reuben thing though.


message 9: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
Reuben's a sweetheart. :)


message 10: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (wordfitlyspoken) | 176 comments Oh, I'm sure he is. I just meant I didn't know he existed. :P


message 11: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
That's so Amber doesn't either - she doesn't have access to my pinterest board, though, so that's why I've pinned him there.


message 12: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (wordfitlyspoken) | 176 comments Ha! Nice.


message 13: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments This isn't really a speculation, but...
Timothea and Flynn were named after their parents' middle names (Timothy and Lynn), weren't they.


message 14: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
Ah, you discovered my secret! Yes, yes, they were. (And Klark and Anita were named after their parents first names.)

Fun fact, though, and one I actually didn't know when I named him, but Flynn means "Son of the redheaded man" which is kinda perfect.


message 15: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments (Haha! I don't know how I didn't notice Wooow.)

OH MY WORD! That is so perfect. WOW!


message 16: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Ha. In honor of a deal (*cough* okay, a bribe for spoilers) I agreed to, here are some speculations and headcanons.

Isabella has more kids in Rizkaland, besides Clara. (Maybe?)

Clarand's future kids on earth will be the same as their kids in Rizkaland. They "return" to Earth after living their entire lives in Rizkaland. They leave and return as babies/kids/teens, and are raised by Clarand of course.

OR

Headcanon: That (^) doesn't happen. On Clara and/or Andrew's deathbed, Laura brings their kids from Rizkaland to Earth to say goodbye.


message 17: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (sarahtaleweaver) | 158 comments Amanda wrote:Isabella has more kids in Rizkaland, besides Clara. (Maybe?)


Somewhere in part 3 (I think), when Andrew and Clara are discussing the naming coincidences, Clara mentions that Princess Isabella had ten kids. So, yes, Isabella does have more kids in Rizkaland- or did; most of them are probably gone by this point, seeing as it's been a few hundred years since then.

I love your headcanon, BTW. <3


message 18: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments Yeah, Clara would have Rizkaland siblings. I think it was book 3 that Kendra told me was really wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey, so maybe she'll get to meet them then. With Laura's world hopping, the possibilities are endless.


message 19: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Sarah Taleweaver wrote: "Amanda wrote:Isabella has more kids in Rizkaland, besides Clara. (Maybe?)


Somewhere in part 3 (I think), when Andrew and Clara are discussing the naming coincidences, Clara mentions that Princess..."


Right! Yay. :)

Oh, thank you!


message 20: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments @Morgan!

Yay!! I hope so.


message 21: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
Yep, Isabelle (with an "e" not an "a") had ten kids in Rizkaland, mostly boys. (Not entirely sure of the ratio. And, I didn't mention it, but Andrew's parents had six kids in Rizkland - all girls except for the last one. Part of the reason Theodore is standoff-ish with his boys is that he's not exactly sure what to do with them.)

And on Clarand's kids ... They will get to see at least four of them again within the series. Other than that, and as for specifics, my lips are sealed. (Though if you skim down pinteret you might get a clue who ...)

Good speculations, though! Any more where those came from? (I.e. bribe meter not quite filled yet ...)


message 22: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments Hmm. Have Granite and Amber had any kids? I think it would make an interesting twist if a kid of theirs showed up sometime. Though with whatever keeps them young, they probably couldn't have kids. Or, ooh, a kid of theirs shows up sometime with Laura, only they haven't had any yet.

(how does this help the bribe meter?)


message 23: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments And I'll bet that when Andrew's mom disappeared she went to Rizkaland.


message 24: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
Hmmm ... interesting propositions. I guess that I can admit that for the longest time, the villains of books 3 onward were Amber's kids, but whether or not this is still the case is another issue entirely. This was also before I created Granite!


message 25: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
And on Andrew's Mom - there is something that Granite mentions while talking to Andrew that is important.


message 26: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments "To only one other person has she made such an offer – Princess Renee of Lower Klarand. She refused as well.”

This part? Now my brain is desperately trying to figure out just what it all might mean.


message 27: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments Maybe Amber has his mom right now. What she wanted could be to go back to our world to Andrew and all, but she knew it wouldn't be real, so she refused, and they have to come back later and rescue her. Only, what if Amber froze her. Then it could be any length of time. People might age while frozen, but they don't know since Ralph and Jane unfroze their friends so quickly. Or they could have to travel in time back and save her, and that could cause a mess with history, but Laura would know how it's all going to turn out since she's the Doorkeeper and all and she'd have to be letting them through. And goodness knows what else would happen.


message 28: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
Book five ...


message 29: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments So this is a thing??


message 30: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
I'm just saying book five. (Although, I'd like to point you to the scene where Amber is talking to Andrew in the halls ... there's a bit of a hint there as well.)


message 31: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments That makes it sound like a thing. Now you make me want book five too. Really all of Rizkaland. I need all the books right now. :)

So is it Andrew's mother who faced Amber and is hailed a hero? Or is she one of those few who have met their end that Amber wonders that there aren't more of? She could be one who met an end and is frozen in Amber's dungeon or something.


message 32: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
Discovering what happened to Renee in book five is a thing. Whether or not it's anything like Morgan's guess is quite another. Amber made a unique offer to both Andrew and to his mom, but to Granite's knowledge, she never made good that offer on Renee, and she certainly didn't succeed with Andrew.

That's all I'll say.

And you've almost filled the bribe meter ...


message 33: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments So her offer to Renee was probably somewhat different from what she offered Andrew. Maybe she offered to somehow combine her lives so she could have both her Rizkaland kids and her our world kids. After all, it would be hard to leave family behind.


message 34: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Okay, is it part 4 when Amber talks to Andrew? And is that when Clara intervenes? Is that when she makes the offer that he turns down?


message 35: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments Part 4 is when she talks to Andrew and Clara intervenes. We don't actually see her make her offer to Andrew, but it's referenced when he's talking to Granite at the beginning of part 5.


message 36: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Ah okay. Or...stay with me here... It was like Jadis' offer to Edmund in Narnia. For power by dark magic. And "happiness". Amber knows that Andrew isn't looked up to as much Clara, seeing as she's the fighter (and he's the chef). So, maybe, she offered him more power (which obviously was a twisted offer for something else) to be "looked up to". This way, he wouldn't have to fight (which would help her, because she doesn't want to be defeated). Clara would die in the process (because she can't fight alone) and he would be eternally tormented.


message 37: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments Oh, that's awful...but it does sound like Amber's reasoning to me. And while Andrew said what he WANTED was the Water Princess safe and Amber out of Klarand, that doesn't mean Amber's offer would be anything like an illusion of that. Good idea, Amanda.


message 38: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Hmm. Thanks. So...how would that connect to her offer with Renee?


message 39: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments Not sure. I don't know enough about her. But I'm pretty well convinced Amber has her imprisoned somewhere since everyone returned to the moment they left and she actually disappeared. But it's after her first time in Rizkaland as this is is after Andrew and his brothers were born. I was thinking maybe Amber had an evil design in pulling her out, but Laura's the Doorkeeper, so I'm not sure if that would make sense. But when was this offer made? Before or after Andrew was born? It could be completely different depending on when.


message 40: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments Ooh, maybe Amber wants to conquer all the worlds and she was trying to get Renee to "turn to the dark side" because somehow that would help her get our world.


message 41: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Ooh, probably.


message 42: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments What do you think she would have gotten in return? Her kids? More power? Returning to our world?


message 43: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments I kind of see her kids as being the appropriate and most successful bribe, but at the same time, I can't see Amber being willing to offer it, unless it was part of a plot to get Renee's kids on her side too.


message 44: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments That could work. I mean, Amber could have known somehow that her son Andrew would be the Fire Prince. Or at least Renee knew, and didn't want to endanger her son and betray her world.


message 45: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments If Amber somehow knew Andrew was the Fire Prince, that would explain a lot about whatever happened with her and Renee. She could have been trying to prevent him becoming Fire Prince at all. And she was raised by Laura, who knows all this stuff. Laura wouldn't tell her on purpose, but Amber isn't stupid, and, like Clara said, Laura not giving a straight answer about something is basically a yes, so Amber could have wheedled and deduced the information out of her.


message 46: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments Exactly! That makes total sense. And she's had hundreds and thousands of years to collect information and conspire.


message 47: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 158 comments Yeah. I'd hate to know all the things that went on inside that evil head of hers all those years.


message 48: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
*sits here amused*

You're leaving Granite out of the equation. There is very little that Amber does that he isn't at least aware of. If she had Renee in her dungeon, it's probable that he would have mentioned it to Andrew while they were on the subject.


message 49: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 338 comments *frowns*

Are we getting any of this right?


message 50: by Kendra, The Author Person (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 650 comments Mod
Well, Amber does want Renee - and Andrew - because she thinks they'll increase her power.


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