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Please edit or correct or delete this quote. (part 3)
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Hello, Would someone please delete these quotes.http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65406...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65459...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/67367...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/73108...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/73244...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/61478...
Muddasir, do those quotes just need the author name editing?
Yes Banjomike . But Some of them have common grammatical errors that's why I need them to delete
OK, 456 gone.
Please correct this quote:http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10554...
the phrase I was the only one.” is incorrect. It should be replace with bolded phrase below. It is also missing reference to the source material, which I have also added below (included links, as long as I'm at it.)
Friendship is born at the moment when one person says to another “What! You too? I thought that no one but myself."
---C.S. Lewis, The Four Loves
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Should there be any question, it can be confirmed here: http://goo.gl/e7zxr3
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Page 78 shows the correct quote
Page 65 Suggests how the quote may have been misquoted (and passed around all over the internet!) Though p 65 does not have the first part of the quote, it does have the "alternate" version of the second part. Somehow the two pieces got "married", though 13 pages separate them in the book.
I hope having the source material cited will help others trying to confirm this oft used quote.
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The quotes attributed to this Paul Lockhart (author of history books):http://www.goodreads.com/author/quote...
should actually be attributed to this Paul Lockhart (author of the math book):
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/...
Bonnie wrote: "The quotes attributed to this Paul Lockhart (author of history books):http://www.goodreads.com/author/quote...
should actually be attributed to this Paul Lockhart (author of the math book):
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/..."
Done. They do sound more mathematical than historical.
Can you please correct the author of this quote to Iain S. Thomas? It is from his blog (http://www.iwrotethisforyou.me/2007/0...).Thanks!
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/59531...
Aren't Thomas and 'pleasefindthis' the same person?EDIT: The reason I ask this is that "pleasefindthis" is a "Goodreads author profile" while Iain S. Thomas isn't. That seems to suggest that pleasefindthis is his preferred pseudonym.
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It does indeed.
Banjomike wrote: "Aren't Thomas and 'pleasefindthis' the same person?EDIT: The reason I ask this is that "pleasefindthis" is a "Goodreads author profile" while Iain S. Thomas isn't. That seems to suggest that pl..."
Fair enough, thanks.
I found this quote, not sure if anything close to this has been written by Tolstoy, but this in itself has many errors contained within it, and should either be edited or deleted( if it is not a real quote.) :) http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/33765...
Mina wrote: "I found this quote, not sure if anything close to this has been written by Tolstoy, but this in itself has many errors contained within it, and should either be edited or deleted( if it is not a real quote.) :) http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/33765..."
Very odd. The book it refers to is published on Lulu.com and on Scribd.
The English translation of that quote is much worse than I would expect from something that was apparently written over a century ago by one one of the greatest writers of all time. The only source for this quote is the Lulu/Scribd book and a few similar editions listed in the last 8 or so years. The book sort-of makes the claim that the original Russian edition was banned in Russia because, in it, Tolstoy converted to Islam. Since Tolstoy was a fanatical Christian anarchist that sounds unlikely. From the Scribd edition it also makes the claim that Jacques Cousteau converted to Islam which I thought had been well and truly refuted. Googling for the exact quote produces about 30 hits and for "does not consider god as a human being" only 29 hits. Again, very low for a Tolstoy quote even allowing for the quality of the translation.
Do we have a librarian who is a Tolstoy fan?
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/14750...
Should be: Nay, lad...
example http://books.google.com/books?id=pPAn...
Should be: Nay, lad...
example http://books.google.com/books?id=pPAn...
rivka wrote: "New thread."Hi there,
I'm a new author here, and apparently there is another Heather Hall on Goodreads. On my (brand new) author page, this quote is showing up, but it's not by me:
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quote...
Would you please remove it from showing up on my page?
Thank-you,
Heather Hall, author of Love in the City
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/3193... is misattributed:According to the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations 6th ed.:
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
was said to Helvétius following the burning of De l’esprit in 1759
attributed to Voltaire, but in fact a later summary of his attitude by S.G. Tallentyre in “The Friends of Voltaire” (1907).
This quote contains very obvious spoilers (which I'm now annoyed about, as I haven't read that far yet, even if it would be possible to guess from the context in other books that it would be possible!). Now I don't really deal with quotes, so what's the best thing to do in this circumstance, especially considering the number of likes?
Banjomike wrote: "#475, changed and several versions combinedhttps://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1111..."
Many thanks
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Could someone please fix this quote for me? I'm terribly sorry, my kitten stepped on my keyboard before I had a chance to correct. http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/90305...
When we have learnt to call storms, storms, and death, death, and birth, birth, when we have mastered the sailor's horn-book and Mr Piddington's law of cyclones, Ellis's anatomy and Lewer's midwifery, we have already made ourself half blind. We have become hypnotized by words and names. We think in words and names, not in ideas; the commonplace has triumphed, the true intellect is half crushed.
Thank you! I thought it such a lovely quote and was crushed that I'd mangled it.
Dan wrote: "Hello,Might a Goodreads Librarian be so kind as to remove all of my quotes from this link?
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quote...
They aren't relevant anymore, as the updated edition isn't going to have them.
Thank you! "
I've removed the ones that no one had liked. The last one has a fan so we leave it.
Dan wrote: "Thanks for removing them! I hate to trouble you once more, but could you change the quote you left to the following?"As clear as it is important, the death of Detroit is still mostly ignored. Generally, the slow destruction of a major city would get a fair amount of attention, but the lack of coverage is hardly surprising. After all, the “bad guys” aren’t the popular ones. In most circles, condemning taxation, regulation, unionization, welfarism and protectionism is unfashionable. It’s necessary to check political correctness at the door and appreciate that the case of Detroit isn’t an isolated tragedy. What happened in Detroit could be coming to a city near you."
Thank you so much!!
"
Done
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/66385...
She of More Heart Throbs Volume Two in Prose and Verse Dear to the American People And by them contributed as a Supplement to the original $10,000 Prize Book HEART THROBS, Bessie Anderson Stanley, is being attributed as author to quotes I believe are not hers. Most especially, the definition of sucess, by Ralph Waldo Emerson.
Please delete the quote "You have bewitched me body and soul!" falsely attributed to Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice. This quote is NOT from Pride and Prejudice nor is it from any Jane Austen work. It is from the 2005 movie. It just infuriates me every time I see it.Thanks!
Bonnie wrote: "Please delete the quote "You have bewitched me body and soul!" falsely attributed to Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice. This quote is NOT from Pride and Prejudice nor is it from any Jane Austen w..."I checked it with my editions and deleted all 8 versions of the quote.
Cheryl in CC NV wrote: "She of More Heart Throbs Volume Two in Prose and Verse Dear to the American People And by them contributed as a Supplement to the original $10,000 Prize Book HEART THROBS, Bessie Anderson Stanley, ..."Can you provide links to the offending quotes?
Hi!I'm still learnig how this place works, and I decided to start posting quotes... But then I made some mistakes when filling them and it seems only Goodreads' librarians can edit them?
The quotes are from John Irving's book "The World According to Garp", and they are written in Spanish. I confused the book and put them in "In one person" instead... Also, there's one wrong tagg, I wrote "indepencendia" instead of "independencia".
Sorry, and thanks~
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/90620...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/90620...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/90619...
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/90619... *ugh* I messed up. Please add the word 'us' to the 4th sentence, it's obvious if you read it.
Corinne wrote: "http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/90619... *ugh* I messed up. Please add the word 'us' to the 4th sentence, it's obvious if you read it."Done. It is worth being specific about changes since not all librarians speak English as their first language.
re 484 Bessie Anderson Stanley claims these quotes: http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/searc...The first is certainly by Emerson; the others are clearly plagiarized from it.
I don't understand though, how it could have been stolen. Emerson's quote has so many thousands of likes - it seems as if a super-librarian is a fan of Bessie?
Cheryl in CC NV wrote: "re 484 Bessie Anderson Stanley claims these quotes: http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/searc...The first is certainly by Emerson; the others are clearly plagiarized from it.
I don't understand though, how it could have been stolen. Emerson's quote has so many thousands of likes - it seems as if a super-librarian is a fan of Bessie? "
Stolen? It didn't take much research to see that the quote had nothing to do with Emerson. That was why, in message 487, I asked which quote(s) you were referring to since your first request in 484 was a tad vague.
Here is a comprehensive summary of the issue from The Ralph Waldo Emerson Society.
http://emerson.tamu.edu/Ephemera/Succ...
I originally posted this on the Goodreads Feedback group. Thank you to Kara for directing me here. Here is my question:Hi, yesterday I posted a quote by Otis Chandler that he made on the thread concerning reviews/ratings for unpublished books:
"I hope you'll appreciate that if we just start deleting ratings whenever we feel like it, that we've gone down a censorship road that doesn't take us to a good place."
It's post#59 on this page:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
I attributed the quote to "Otis Chandler Goodreads CEO". A Goodreads librarian later updated this author page with a picture and some other info (my understanding is that is what librarians are supposed to do), and some folks started to "like" the quote. It then promptly disappeared/was deleted.
Please let me know what the issue was with this quote. Thanks.
Eta: if it's an issue with not having 500 likes, shouldn't a quote be given more than 24 hours (which it wasn't in thus case) to garner that much attention?
Are quotes supposed to be by authors? That was always my assumption because the person quoted ends up having an "author page" (and this is a book site after all). I can't find any info on quotes in the librarian manual.ETA: And no, I am not the one who deleted it, before anyone makes any assumptions.
Julie wrote: "Are quotes supposed to be by authors? If you go to add a quote, Goodreads give you these guidelines:
Quote Guidelines
Only enter quotes from notable people. Generally, a person is notable if they have been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject.
Quotes can be from any source (books, spoken words, news articles, etc) as long as they pass the above criteria.
Only enter the author's name in the author field (not their birthdate or which book the quote is from).
When entering author names with initials (H.G. Wells, J.K. Rowling), don't put spaces between the initials.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/new
In the above guidelines, the terms "notable person" and "secondary source material" both link to descriptions on Wikipedia.
So I guess the question is, is Otis Chandler a "notable person" who has been the subject of "secondary source material"?
Quotes need to be by 'notable' people. On Goodreads Otis would qualify as notable. 500 likes doesn't come into it. Perhaps someone just thought you might, just possibly, be being sarcastic.Just for info, Otis has an author profile:
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
EDIT: I'm assuming this is the correct Otis.
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Actually, I don't think he meets that guideline. [Edit] Because we usually use something like "do they have a Wikipedia page that has been up at least 6 months" as the criteria. Otis doesn't, does he?
And that profile belongs to a different Otis Chandler. A relative, I think.
Well if that profile is not him, there is a problem because the quote in question is listed on it.
rivka wrote: "Banjomike wrote: "Actually, I don't think he meets that guideline."Do these count as secondary sources?
http://paidcontent.org/2013/03/28/fir...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodreads
http://book.pressbooks.com/chapter/go...
http://www.sfgate.com/business/onther...
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As far as the second link, that's a page for Goodreads, rather than for him. I know we recently decided against some other notability edge case (wish I could remember who) with no Wikipage of their own but who appeared on someone else's.
So if someone created a Wikipedia page for Otis, then would he be considered notable?
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