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Phillida wrote: "For me the last scene of GW is unsurpassed. I agree. What an ending! Proust has managed to wring every emotion out of us!I need to go have a cup of tea to calm down. Wow.
Ce Ce wrote: I've just unearthed a sketchbook from long ago that I've not yet used. So I'm putting my toes back in the water by sketching...daily...working through hand eye coordination to fluidity and finding my way to settle back into my own schedule."Draw some trees!!
Good to have you reading with us again. I'm sure the detour you took reading The Orphan Master's Son was very rewarding. You'll definitely laugh out loud reading the next few sections of GW. Enjoy!
Oh by the way, I've been rather fascinated by people drawn to hand drawings or those that display plaster molds of hands. As an artist who has drawn hands before, how would you explain this? I wonder if Proust ever mentions this.
Kate wrote: "When, later, he finds himself in someone's library and picks up a volume of Proust(it's Jeunes Filles en Fleur) his heart lifts. He recalls a former tutor who'd call it
SALVATION THROUGH PROUST!
Maybe, Marcel is a healer of souls...I believe Alain de Boton was of this view."
Interesting. Thanks for sharing that Kate. I don't know what to make of Alain de Boton. I of course read his book on how reading Proust can change your life before joining this group, and saw a few videos of him discussing his book. At that point, I enjoyed him, but a part of me feels that he isn't a literary heavyweight as Proust critic or even as an author.It's all trending fluff. I feel that he just picks up on an old idea, tries to reinvent it as something new, and then capitalizes on it. Perhaps I don't know him well enough. Just me thinking out loud.
Fionnuala wrote: "I'm building up such a collection of 'about Proust' books, from Beckett to Gautier-Vignal, and I'm sure you are all doing the same, that we could easily continue our discussions for years, if not in this actual group, then in a new related one."
That's great! You said it before, the year of reading Proust may very well become the decade of reading Proust which makes sense because if we are going to read him, we should "master" him.
Proustitute should consider extending this journey.
ReemK10 (Paper Pills) wrote: "As readers did you already know that there really was a Mme de Sevigne who was known for her letter writing and literary salon? I certainly didn't."Women were the hostesses of these highly sough..."
Kalliope wrote: "ReemK10 (Got Proust?) wrote: "As readers did you already know that there really was a Mme de Sevigne who was known for her letter writing and literary salon? I certainly didn't.
"Women were the h..."
I just found this video of Mme de Sévigné's château à Grignan and will post it for future readers to have a visual of her home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLajsu...
Stunnng home!
Ce Ce wrote: "ReemK10 (Paper Pills) wrote: "@CeCe "the Emperor sent him to sketch a beautiful region and reprimanded him for coming back emptyhanded, after which he painted a 100-foot scroll that replicated all ..."Take it with you! You never know when inspiration will hit. :)
Fionnuala wrote: "Isn't it fortunate, Reem, that there are so many of us still aboard this Proust train half way through the year? Roll on the Proust train...While you were gone Fionnuala, Kalliope suggested creating a lounge for when this Proust train reaches its final destination. We all know that the train will actually keep going and going as we attempt to make sense of it all, hence a need for this lounge and for us all to be able to stop by for tea and madeleines. Ce Ce and Jocelyne have picked out wigs ( long story) and Kalliope and I are going more exotic. lol
When Marcelita wrote: "Recently, I have been reflecting on Proustitute's own "epoch-making" 2013 Proust reading group."
It made me think that Proustitute should create a social media site called FP (as opposed to FB) for Fellow Proustians. That could be our meeting area for when this year of reading Proust comes to an end!
Marcelita wrote:Here is a lite-site showing the facial similarities (some closer than others) using the British Royals.
http://www.people.com/people/package/...
Amazing similarities!
Fionnuala wrote: "Marcelita,why does this sentence sound like an adieu
Very observant Fionnuala. I'm impressed.
Marcelita wrote: Recently, I have been reflecting on Proustitute's own "epoch-making" 2013 Proust reading group. I leave so nourished, with my synapses lighting my mind's eye. My humble, "Thank you!" to every soul to posts, either frequently or rarely. I have learned from you all.
And we have learned from you! Thanks for all of these links. I will have to spend time studying them. Have a wonderful time in France. Don't forget to leave pink post-it notes for Kalliope to find! Bon Voyage!
I believe many of you would like to read this:"Like many others who turned into writers, I disappeared into books when I was very young, disappeared into them like someone running into the woods. What surprised and still surprises me is that there was another side to the forest of stories and the solitude, that I came out that other side and met people there. Writers are solitaries by vocation and necessity. I sometimes think the test is not so much talent, which is not as rare as people think, but purpose or vocation, which manifests in part as the ability to endure a lot of solitude and keep working. Before writers are writers they are readers, living in books, through books, in the lives of others that are also the heads of others, in that act that is so intimate and yet so alone."
http://www.guernicamag.com/features/t...
@CeCe "the Emperor sent him to sketch a beautiful region and reprimanded him for coming back emptyhanded, after which he painted a 100-foot scroll that replicated all his travels in one continuous flow, that he made all his paintings boldly and without hesitation, painting like a whirlwind, so that people loved to watch the world emerge from under his brush."
@Kalliope "But only as I write do I also notice the bird is a Taoist master.."
Jocelyne wrote: "Maybe I misunderstood but I thought that although the narrator was disappointed by the Duchesse and makes fun of how shallow and vapid these aristocrats can be, what attracts him to them is the his..."I believe that there is no wrong read. It is whatever speaks to you. I'm sure it is a bit of both. For me, what resonated was that it is the narrator who inflated the weight of the Guermantes name as opposed to the Courvoisier name which should have been treated the same.He made them seem holier than thou and then realized that they really weren't very different, having similar petty instincts as everyone else. They just had a pretty stage. Of course this attitude has to be tied in with the fact that they were aristocrats and thus different, so it is a bit of both.
Did I just contradict myself? lol
Elizabeth wrote: "The Apotheosis of Capitalism: the fact that the Duc and Duchesse regard favors as "credit." I.e. the Duc does not want to "waste his credit" by asking the General a favor...since it would use up ..."That is so typical. If you're going to ask for a favor, you're going to save it for your own personal interest. C'est la vie!
Kalliope wrote: "ReemK10 (Paper Pills) wrote: "..."Thank you. I listened to Brendel in the Carnegie. One year before he retired. I still remember the concert. One mozart, one beethoven, one haydn."
Kalliope, I can't wait for the day that YOU write a novel that will be disguised as an autobiography!
Kalliope wrote: "ReemK10 (Paper Pills) wrote: "Another article for you my dear Proustians: On Proust: ‘I still think those are the 50 greatest p..."
Reem, may be you can put this in the Links thread as well. Th..."
Great idea. It never occurred to me to post it there. I'll go look for the link to the music article.
This one? : http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archi...
Phillida wrote:It will be a time to remember.You'd be making memories with this summer friend.
Another article for you my dear Proustians:
On Proust: ‘I still think those are the 50 greatest pages of any book I’ve ever read’
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/s...
Kalliope wrote: Somewhere though, he says that "later on" he learnt to see that Mme de Guermantes did distinguish herself from the others. But now she has lost the fascination that the Narrator had with her "name". Yes, a fascination first with the name and then with the woman bearing the name. This was a section where Proust wanted us laugh and we did! There is obviously some satire on the whole social game being played out by the Guermantes set. Yet, I don't think it just satire about that era. I think it is more about how we ( human nature) look at others, with wonder and delight in what we have created of them, only to bring them crashing down in our dissappointment that they can't be whom we want them to be. I believe that is the problem that the narrator had with the Guermantes name, and the people who held it.
Just finished reading this week's section, and I have to say Proust's characterization of Madame de Guermantes is rather fascinating. The narrator's infatuation with the Duchess and then the discovery that she was not how he envisioned her to be at all shows that he is maturing in his perceptions of people.He put her up on that pedestal and knocked it right down! I believe reading this we are to see how we are to blame for our projections of people, and that this is the lesson that Proust wants us to learn. Do you agree?
Phillida wrote: "ReemK10 (Paper Pills) wrote: "Finding women who can write is complicated at the London Review of Booksby kathrynheyman
Thanks, Reem. That exchange is priceless. Dare I admit that I still subsc..."
Thanks Phillida for pointing out Jenny Diski to me. I'll keep my eye out for her articles, Regarding your quandary, in search of further time to read Proust as well as Joyce, I would figure it depends on how fast you read. If you can keep pace with both books, you should at least try especially as this has been a fun reading experience for you and your summer friend. If however, you're much too busy, then don't even bother trying. Reading will begin to feel like homework, and you really want to enjoy reading. LOL@ to what do you belong to most? You belong to whomever nurtures your soul!!!
