MeerderWörter’s Comments (group member since Jan 08, 2016)

MeerderWörter’s comments from the Our Shared Shelf group.

"Always ask the turtle"

~Gloria Steinem

"Sociologist Arlie Hochschild found that the women in two-career couples came home to do 75 percent of household work."
p.24

That is pretty awkward. And pretty unfair.
Oh, she is a cool woman:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlie_R...

MotorCityMomma wrote: "Has there been any word on whether Emma's missing rings have been found and returned to her? My heart went out to her over such a sentimental loss and I am only curious if there has been an update."

Not that I know, and yes, I am really sorry for her.
They were so special for her.

santerro wrote: "what time is the meeting
last time it was 7am where i live"

Today we have our weekly Skype chat at 16:30 EST, 21:30 GMT, and 22:30 CET. Anyone can still join, I'll keep a watch over here.

santerro wrote: "how can we join this chat?"

Send Agnes a contact request, then she can add you;)

David wrote: "Slightly off-topic:

Having been a feminist for fourty years, I have never until now, been able to actually claim to be such. (This unfortunate happenstance of having been born male, don'cha know)..."

There is:
You can register at the HeforShe website, which you can find here, and then choose your gender (either He, She or specified):
http://www.heforshe.org/en/commit
Well, and then off you go with your commitment;)

David wrote: "Ummm, what's a 'Skype'?

David Larkin"

Skype is a programme that allows both chatting and videocalling.

Kate wrote: "Meerder wrote:"No need to put one in front of the other..."

I agree. When you are talking about a certain circumstance she should have said those people are racist. It is a sad title that they sac..."

I think it is a loss for both communities. She actuallly had the guts to speak out and then she was sacked. So sad, for both communities.

I have read this topic since shortly after it was created, and I need to say I have the need to reply to the last couple of tweets now:

Emma wrote: "Benarji wrote: "@Seregon correct me if i am wrong but don't men have any say in the society anymore? Personally, I feel like we are all just living in a song by Beyonce, who runs the world?

I bel..."
Feminism is very much about equality. Equality of the sexes, for everyone.
It is debatable, different branches of feminism see this in a different light. For me personally tho, it is equal chances for everyone. It is about equal respect for everyone. I don't want to rob men of everything, I want to lift everyone else up so that we ALL are on the same height. No more looking down and up towards each other.

Benarji, feminism isn't about silencing men. Because that is misandry. But that does not mean we cannot call out someone for their behaviour. Feminism does not mean we need to be always friendly to women and always hateful towards men.
I'm sorry to hear that the women around you see men's activities as wrong. In my opinion, there are only activities, and each gender can exercise them. Society taught us that there are men's and women's activities.
You and I have a different understanding of privilege. For some parts of a population to have a privilege, others need to not have it. This is in itself not equal, as some are given an advantage because of their ascribed status, not their achieved status. We all have different privileges and for gender equality, we need to get rid of them, in my opinion, because otherwise not everyone is free. I look forward to the day when my white privilege is busted, I am afraid tho that I will not witness this day anymore. I am not afraid of losing my privileges, I look forward to the day, because I know what it feels like to be oppressed. It sucks, and I cannot wait for the day when we all are equal. When no one is oppressed anymore. Everyone gets advantage from being equal - we can be our true self then. What is bad about this? When men don't have to hide their emotions anymore, when women can be strong too, for example?
And please, be careful not to brush over everyone and speak for all. Make sure that everybody sees when it is your personal opinion, to which you are entitled of course, it is a problem tho if you speak for all and not everyone agrees with you, which is bound to happen in such a big group as OurSharedShelf has grown to be.
I told you already what I think feminism is about, and I know there are different branches, with different methods and goals, and I can assure you that I do not agree with all feminists. I told you already that I think we need to call out misbehaviour, for lack of a better word, in other feminists.
The vast majority of humans nowadays live in patriarchies, and look at the state the world is in. Oppression of women at the hands of men needs to stop. Now, I don't say that every man in a patriarchy is complicit in upholding the power structures that we have, but it would be better for all if we get rid of the ones we have now.
A thing you might have overlooked ( I really hope you just overlooked it, and didn't leave them out purposefully), when talking about sexualisation of women is gay men. Not all men sexualize women, gay men do not. Androphile persons in general do not. Be careful with what you say, otherwise you can really hurt people.
You might want to check your own words, because yes, feminism is not about men being wrong and women being right. We need to listen to one another, and learn from each other. Something many here are very capable of.
Maybe you should some scripts of Marx, or My Life on the Road, they have both analysed societies in a very good way.

Kate wrote: "http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article...

I know this is just as much about race, but L'Oreal did just sack their first transgender model...."

No need to put one above the other. It just sucks.

Cami wrote: "This is my favorite thread ever....I have a daughter who is very interested in Science and has been (I'm not kidding..) since preschool I think. I'm terrified that she will reach an age where her p..."

We make sure it doesn't happen anymore. This is a safe space.

trisha wrote: "i feel that Emma Watson's feminism is the true voice of the term itself - often people believe that feminism is women > men while it actually is women = men"

Yep, because women > men is misandry.

Arnaud wrote: "I will be there tomorrow guys. :)"
Yay, full house then tomorrow:)


Melissa wrote: "I love this idea."
Just send Agnes a request, she can add you then;)

Listening to it now - thanks for sharing.

Lydia wrote: "Hey:) Can I join you guys? My skype name is lydiam520 and my email michaelydia205@hotmail.com"

Sure;)

https://twitter.com/msfoundation/stat...

We gotta start somewhere, don't we? ;)

Agnes wrote: "And is lots to learn ;)"

Yep, intersectionality means a lot of work;)

George wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "George wrote: "Great responses so far. I am now more inclined to her feminism!"

Watch any of her speeches, one can really see how passionate she is about it.

One of the thin..."

Learn or do some action?
You can do a lot of learning here, reading the books and reading the discussions, participate in them as you see fit.
Go through the world with open eyes and point out negative behaviour of others. We all need to start somewhere, it's not like we all can sign a statement every other day.

Help oppressed individuals, but don't speak for them, speak with them; the possibilities are there, we only need to be creative.

George wrote: "Great responses so far. I am now more inclined to her feminism!"

Watch any of her speeches, one can really see how passionate she is about it.

One of the things I really like about her: She doesn't like being called an expert on feminism; modesty is always a good trait in a person.

Erin wrote: "I know this may be controversial but Why can't there be places for single sexes?

Do I have to share bathrooms with men too?"

If you really want a bathroom stall for each single sex this might become a bit crowded:
http://www.isna.org/faq/conditions

(And these are just the ones who affect the primary sex characteristics...)