MeerderWörter’s Comments (group member since Jan 08, 2016)

MeerderWörter’s comments from the Our Shared Shelf group.

Agnes wrote: "* Radical Feminism - considers the capitalist hierarchy as society, which it describe as sexist and male-based, as the defining feature of women's oppression. Most radical feminist see no alternati..."

Thanks for these brief summaries. But I still think we need a sole topic dedicated to the different branches of feminism.

Spencer wrote: "Thank you MeerderWörter and Emma for your feedback!"

You're very welcome.

Meelie wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "santerro wrote: "what are the different groups of feminism?"

In the 20th century, these were the most influential ones:
radical feminism
liberal feminism
black feminism
socia..."

I'll plough through OSS in the evening then!

I start reading it now - 38 essays are quite a lot, but I love essays, they are cool.

santerro wrote: "what are the different groups of feminism?"

In the 20th century, these were the most influential ones:
radical feminism
liberal feminism
black feminism
socialist feminism
and a form that is very much like intersectional feminism, but I forgot the word right now. I can come back and insert more knowledge here.

Maybe we should do a general topic on the different forms of feminism, what do the mods think of it?

Eva wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Eva wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Eva wrote: "I'm really forward to read it! After some research, I could get the book. Based on what Emma wrote, I think this book can help on..."

Drop me a few lines here or PM whether you were successful or not.

Eva wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Eva wrote: "I'm really forward to read it! After some research, I could get the book. Based on what Emma wrote, I think this book can help one of my acquaintance but I do not ..."

Oh okay, so she's not like me, who reads everything...
Read it yourself and tell her based on your feelings, ideas and thoughts that she should read the book. When I want my mom to read a book I try to convince her saying I liked it, or found it to be very enlightening. Maybe you can try that. I know it's difficult, especially with someone who has strong tastes, and doesn't want to read something else than what they usually read.

Tiara Lynn wrote: "This was a complicated one for me. As a fat woman it was REALLY hard to hear the way she presented the things that happen to us and the way people look at our bodies. I've spent a lot of energy ove..."

Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
We tend to simplify people's experiences too fast, and think: Oh, this is the case for everyone. When it is not. That is also why I so appreciate that you shared part of your story and thoughts with us - to stop us from universalizing.

And I am glad that you have healed to a point where you can be unapologetically you. Because that is who you shoud be - unapologetically you.

I have yet to start reading it - but I really look forward to it, I think it might hit close home for me as well.

santerro wrote: "Ross wrote: "09/09/2017 – 21:00 (UK time) Skype report

Attendees:
Quoc Huy PHO – France
Lydia Michael – Cyprus
Shayesteh Khosravi – Iran
Robert Smart – Massachusetts USA
Hanna Rodriguez – Louisi..."

It is. Oh, I cannot wait for saturday.

Caroline wrote: "Emma wrote: "Dear Our Shared Shelf,

Roxane Gay describes her book ‘Hunger’ as a “memoir about my body”. It traverses many of the issues surrounding our human bodies, the sexual experiences we hav..."

Thank you for sharing this very personal information with us. And don't apologize for the long post, sometimes to write something down helps a lot, and if it's longer, it's longer.

We still have room for new ones who want to join us.
Oh, I cannot wait for saturday. I really wanna know how the new format works, as I sadly missed the chat last saturday.

Florence wrote: "I hope this book will come out in french one day =)

J'espère que ce livre sortira en français un jour =)"

If there is enough demand - one can do nothing but hope.

Eva wrote: "I'm really forward to read it! After some research, I could get the book. Based on what Emma wrote, I think this book can help one of my acquaintance but I do not know how to make her read it. Have..."

Maybe you can give it to them as a parcel for their birthday? Or Christmas, if it's okay.

Spencer, thanks for linking that article. I read that one now and I must say the questions raised (and more so the answers) are valid in my opinion.
I know men who say they cannot be feminists because they lack the experiences specific to women. But the important thing is that they check their privilege and try to support women as best as they can.

In my opinion men can be feminists, human, everybody can be a feminist. Everybody can do something in their social circles to improve the situation of women. And if it is only small steps, as Ross said, small bites chip away at the patriarchy. And if the patriarchy is down, that's one oppressing factor less to fight against.
As you said, the civil rights movement wasn't just supported by African-Americans...
It needs to use a language of the people from the street, not some highly academic language only a few have learned.

I like what this man wrote, maybe it really is men who need to do the work, I mean, in order for change the ruling class needs to change, not the ruled class.

I doubt that we can actually bring all branches of feminism together into one trunk. We are all humans, and we are different, we are diverse and so are our beliefs.
I also think it is not really necessary to unite all forms, different forms evolved and are needed in their places. That does not mean we cannot critizise branches of feminism, but in general I say we need a reality-check-up, but not a fusion of the branches. Different branches see different roots of oppression and different solutions.

I'm curious tho what others think of this: Should we/can we unite feminism into a trunk or not?

Ana wrote: "Hello everybody!

Thought I would share a couple of recent losses (one of them today, sigh) of female activists that devoted their lives to noble causes directly or indirectly related to feminism. ..."

Thanks for sharing, I'll read everything when I'm free, I'm busy right now.

Lauren wrote: "I am sorry I am not allowed to read it"

May I ask why you're not allowed to read it?

Ross wrote: "UK comedy scene most Male and Female are feminist and open about equality issues.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/magazine/c..."

More feminists, always a good thing.

Kate wrote: "Meerder Wrote: "The couple believe the school should have consulted all parents."
Please tell me I misread that. Please...
It's difficult enough for trans kids as it is, that only makes it worse."
..."

Sometimes I just want to crawl in a hole and not come out again. Reading such things is one of these times.

Angelica wrote: "Cant get hold of the book. Not out yet on amazon.co.uk and on amazon.com they dont sent it to where I live. Sad, that we are supposed to read a book that isnt out yet to everyone just to a selected..."

They have one new hardcover and 26 new paperbacks right now. You see, Amazon didn't expect Emma to select the book. It'll be back in stock in a few days.