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Happy Louis Riel Day for holiday Monday, February 19! Louis is after 153 years, posthumously recognized for history, as Manitoba's first premier! https://winnipegsun.com/news/provinci...

Kerri, you have not said if you started watching "Corner Gas". If you have, I'd love to have your first impressions. Continuing it on-line saves me mailing the video files and suggests you are enjoying it enough to continue, which is wonderful.

Ladies, please never compose any writing on-line. You write in a text or Word document first, save it to your harddive, then post it. I would be astonished and wonder why you weren't careful, if you said your sole review copy were the single one you posted!

Yes, the keyboard goes wonky sometimes, coming up with odd apostrophes and quotation marks and not giving question marks. This is only in comments because I pre-write reviews as I urge you to. I sometimes post as is, reboot, and edit. I also have apostrophes, quotation marks, and the question mark saved on a desktop sticky note to cut & paste as required. They have come in handy a lot.

Technology is frustrating, says anyone who has used dial-up internet for 13 years, already a decade after high-speed was invented. I am perplexed that you don't seem to be shopping around for the lowest price for the same laptop you want. It sounds like there is a set figure and you are resigned to paying it. If your Sister has used the better laptop for awhile, time to give it to you for awhile. :-) Thank you for updating us.

This is all I can say until Shirin contributes her inputs and answers our questions about interest in other books. She is busy but if she is uninterested in "Confessions Of A Shopaholic" or "The Time Machine", we might as well proceed when *you* can post daily. My reading schedule is open. Your friend, Carolyn.

Kerri, I am glad you are well again. Shirin, I am happy you read our reading journey and will add to it yourself. Shirin, are you interested in "Confessions Of A Shopaholic" at all, when you have time? I want to have fun and will be choosing books that make me smile or inspire and impress me! Are you interested in reading "Lament"? I would like to read that earlier fairytale before diving into "Blue Lily, Lily Blue". I would do it myself if interest or time were low for the two of you.

Yes, when one write an autobiography or non-fiction conversation, family privacy needs to be balanced with the message and help you want to give the world. Matthew Perry and Rob Lowe did not have wives when they were addicted and maybe Mike Fox did no more than disappoint his wife when he got drunk. However, it would have been helpful and inspiring if someone had said they got aggresive with family members or roommates and how they all dealt with it afterwards. Here is a new quote that occurs to me to write: "Anyone you shock is less important than those you help".

I am amazed if neither of you ladies have seen "Remington Steele", except of course that Shirin's first language is Persian. Do a lot of 1980s shows get to Iran eventually? It had time to travel, haha. It is my favourite show of my childhood. It is a compliment to Doris Roberts that I didn't think I could see her as anyone but the loveable "Mildred Krebbs", at the Remington Steele detective agency. But she owned her role as Marie Barone and blew me away in "Everybody Loves Raymond" too, with just a look. THAT is an actress.

As for our wonderful book series, I am surprised you don't automatically surmise, as I do, that Blue's Dad is supremely magical. They all are in their family and friend group. I think he is so important or powerful somehow that it is the reason he disappeared. The key is that he vanished upon Blue's birth and it will be interesting to know why. One must be able to co-exist with their offspring in the same space. That reunion will be informative and also emotional: meeting one's Dad!

Blue's Mom and relatives have had all Blue's years to test what she can do. There is room to be surprised and to develop her abilities. However, I think it is only readers who do not know her capabilities. I look forward to seeing more of them like you do.

I am sure the title refers to Blue as the upcoming protagonist. I recall however, that there were blue lillies in Ronan's livingroom, which he brought home after seeing these new, amazing flowers in a dream.

Any questions and ideas about these novels on your parts? It is fun to guess about the next novel and what resuming the Welsh quest will be like. I do not mind letting the excitement simmer and reading "Lament" beforehand. Your friend, Carolyn.

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I am glad, Leeanne. We all want to be supportive but have also heard a lot about people misplacing protestations. My incentive for raising this topic is to see if others feel as I do. There is a difference between harmful, injust things that should never have occurred, versus terminology that has changed or well-meaning populations or eras needing education.

We often see reviewers get advocacy wrong in books. I just reviewed a spider book. One person banned it because the spider in the year 1980 wore an Aboriginal costume for Hallowe'en. Sure, we wouldn't dare risk misrepresenting or offending now, although no one objects to the cowboy costume. I have gone out as an East Indian, where an Indian friend proudly helped me wear a sahri for the occasion. However, the thrill of BEING those people for an evening was the point; not looking down on them.

I try to tell reviewers that what we should object to in older times is harm or inferior treatment: things that were never okay, ever. Not words or concepts we recently identified as off-putting.

I noticed an interesting disclaimer that must have been added recently to the comedy channel on which "Three's Company" airs. It succeeds "Family Ties", which simply airs directly. It is as wonderfully suitable and helpful to today's concerns in 2024 as it was from 1982 to 1989.

May John Ritter and Suzanne Somers rest in peace. I appreciate Joyce DeWitt, Jenilee Harris, Priscilla Barnes, and Richard Kline. However, you couldn't pay me to watch it anymore. I hate religious intolerance. "Three's Company's" premise entailed disdain of civil unions, not wanting romantic partners to live together without church marriages.

I suspect the social justice that networks are concerned about was joking about gays being effeminate but they were accepted by all the managers. Common-law couples or sexuality outside marriage were not, as if it were the year 1600 in Pennsylvania or Utah, instead of 1982 in California. I like the disclaimer's goal. How do you feel? Here it is.

"The following presentation is a product of its time. It depicts prejudices that were wrong then and are unacceptable today.

Exhibiting work like this allows viewers to engage in thought or discussion that educates and promotes the importance of social justice and inclusivity."

Happy new year, worldwide friends! I thought those far from Canada and the northern United States would like a look at our zany weather. With prayers that all animals and people will be safe, comfortably warm, dry, and well fed: this is our only cold period of the winter. It has been unusually warm so stay inside and drive safely if you have to work outside of home. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&r...

Our town is on this list but we can see our frozen windowpanes; no need for a weather report! I regular towel them off from becoming seas and keep the autumn ladybug colony living with us, from freezing or drowning on those waterlogged windowsills.

Matthew Perry's autobiography is the frank but humorously told story of his life overall, from conception. Addiction runs through a lot of it. Anyone would be swept away by his confiding storytelling style no matter what is in it. There are a skittish or unreasonable few, who were perhaps seeking a yearbook of the television show. The benefit of an autobiography is: the author describes ways in which he wants to be understood and readers learn about the author outside famous roles. Trust me, ignore any flack you see and enjoy it yourself.

Well told stories engross anyone. I would have admired and enjoyed Matthew's story before addiction affected our family. Since then, Kerri, I have observed that most accounts of it, especially Rob Lowe's, are inadequate. Even Mike guarded what he wrote, which is not very helpful because they outline only in general that addiction is not good but reveal no terrible examples of why. We need to know how dangerous, violent, stressful, or depressing people's dynamics can get; even in a stable recovery, which is new to me. People need to dare to tell more to truly show what can happen and how to overcome it. Matthew is a God-send.

Leah is no longer doing her show. I guess you watched it if you know Shelly's name. David is missing too apparently. Enough was revealed and Leah and her team won awards for their work. Faces bullies was tax exempt money is brave and she is further suing them for harrassing friends, colleagues, and herself. On "King Of Queens", Doug gave as many clapbacks as Carrie did, so the show was even and funny.

On "Everybody Loves Raymond", Patricia Heaton had many lovely moments, especially at the end. Too bad antagonism wasn't toned down earlier. I tried the show, which is outragously funny most of the time, because Doris Roberts is in it. I treasure her from "Remington Steele".

You didn't reply here but I hope you received my letter on December 30, talking happily about gifts. I don't know if Tom Cruise is involved with David's bad deeds inside closed doors of scientology. What I see is that he is sweet and generous to his fans, the most courteous of actors to interviewers, and an actor whose work I have appreciated growing-up. An discussion included with Ron's blu-ray is a lovely conversation about how Tom loves learning every aspect of film making from the ground up.

It would be an uncomfortable position if he did not know what David did and needed to distance himself from the negativity but did not want to appear to shrug off his religion choice either. I do not assume anyone is guilty by association. I wondered if Lisa Presley and John Travolta backed away from the religion years ago.

It is too bad John Krasinsky is not doing more "Jack Ryan". We have season four to purchase eventually. Ron suspects John will want to do more shows or movies in this successful, rewarding area.

You wrote an interesting quote about Richard but need to site where it is from. "Dream me the world".... was that merely when Richard was going to his parents' party in Washington? Ronan is not a child and that would be a dramatic thing to say for a week-end trip.

Thank you for reminding me of Barrington Whelk. I remembered Richard evading him by car. I recall now that he was in the forest and threatened Neeve, who said a sacrifice is interpreted as hard to do. It is terrible that they assumed nature would want a death. All Adam had to do, even though he also feared something rough, was agree to be the leyline's and I imagine the forest's helper / ally / maintenance man.

I hope Maggie doesn't get formulaic or repetitive: a bad guy visiting the psychic's house, someone disappearing, Adam being insulted by help, Ronan having a temper.... Maura could certainly have written something and said why she had to be brief and go without phoning them or leaving a voicemail! If you are going to write in the modern era, make use of it resourcefully!

Haha, I myself hope those cars are accounted for and not left dangling. I would not feel comfortable taking a free car but other people might have flexible morals. They could be donated to the poor, or funraise for charity.

You raise interesting ideas to contemplate. Maybe Ronan can bring himself and friends / family into locations chosen by thought. If he can locate them, or get an idea of the place, maybe his mind can convey. That might differ from being advised to not overuse energy on needless things. Maybe transporting directs the mind but does not remove energy, like dreaming objects up. Travelling to Blue's family would be an appropriate use, if that were the case.

I hope to have Shirin's responses and additions soon, to all posts. Unfair to only answer the end! ;> I look forward to a letter from you in e-mail too, Kerri.

I have wondered if there is a drop in interest to chat after a book is finished but we are hesitant to say much until everyone finishes. Lags do dampen the thrill of looking for replies, which is why I am glad there are three of us. One of us usually writes something for us to see. :)

Unless you ladies have ideas about this, I guess all we can do is post regularly while we read, with chapter headings freeing us to type whatever comes to mind. Then not wait long to talk about everything when we are finished. I know the Holy season has our attention for awhile: with celebrations, home time, and visits.

I am excited to jump into "Blue Lily, Lily Blue" and will see what Shirin says. My idea which I am glad you share, is to savour the thrill and read "Lament" beforehand. I want to know more about Blue's cousin, like how they are related. Maybe we'll get a backstory on the household they share, with Persephone and the bitchy lady whose name I forget, because I like her less. That is why I could hardly remember Barrington. My mind is happy to skip what is unpleasant and store what is wonderful!

Hi, Kerri. I have conveyed as well as I can in my review and here that Matthew Perry's book is very funny, if you catch his humor. He wrote that the humour he brings to the show is from his childhood in Ontario, so people should recognize it a lot better than they did. Also, it is as anecdotal as any other autobiography.

I don't know where on Earth anyone got the idea it only talks about addiction. Its focus and conclusion warns of those dangers and he describes where in his life story he got caught in it. However, this is a bonafide autobiography: from his parents meeting, babyhood, landing his famous roles, onward.

I think "memoir" discusses one area, like Brooke Shields in her post parton depression book "Down Came The Rain". There is nothing you should dread or find bittersweet. It is a great, well written story the same as Mike Fox mixes humour with hard times. Do you feel bittersweet when you read his autobiography sequels? It is sad he has Parkinson's but he reassures us that he enjoys life, has a purpose, and does the best he can; the same as Matthew's writing does. Do yourself a favour and start his story with pleasure.

You didn't catch my point about the woman criticizing words that are hardly swears. My comparison was of her content choices, not her language. She reads books about murder or war; killing. She accepts violence for entertainment but fans herself in horror over a swear: a common hypocrisy in the United States. You & I talked about this. TV shows are full of shooting, stealing, and other violence but a bit of sexuality or colourful language is balked at. I don't like excess swearing or sexuality. Almost all my reviews are professional. I am not a swearer to call out. Sometimes I let loose with humour or adult language and it feels good. Most people's reactions is favourable or neutral. I certainly abhor profanity regarding Jesus and God; just disrepectful and awful. I have needed their support often!

Yes, the more we acquaint ourselves with or practice something, the more aware we grow of how to read things pertaining to it.

You must have seen Leah Remini's name credited on "The King Of Queens". I like her a lot more personally than her character, which is bossy and bitchy and I feel the same about Penny on "The Big Bang Theory". However, what saves those shows is that there is a lot of love and Kevin James' character in particular shoots back, making their relationship even. Believe me, it isn't fun in real life either, if one person is bitchier and one more often tolerant or affectionate. We need more of that balance soon. Leah herself is assertive and frank, which is fun to watch for most of us who measure things and hold back here and there.

Her bravrey to expose and protest scientology earned the great respect and must help a whole lot of people. If their organization pays taxes, they won't have the fortune to hire numerous people to vouch for them. Getting witnesses to lie in affidavits is common and easy for them because their religion condones "anything to protect their church". A simple search of Leah's name shows that she is sueing the organization for harrassing her family, friends, and colleagues. Her bold personality is her strength against bullies.

It is the show "Everybody Loves Raymond" that has a wife character I loathed. She was undeniably mean in some stories and always called her husband unpleasant names, which he did not do. Ray Romano and Doris Roberts (beloved from my childhood favourite, "Remington Steele") delivered hilarious scenes that I enjoyed. Ray and Kevin are friends from New York.

I am glad that despite being in the cell phone carrying age, you do not linger past looking at something for a few minutes and closing it. I use mine exclusively for voicemail and as a phone if I'm not home to use our landline. When we decorate our homes with photographs, plant life, books, music albums, ornaments; it is for ourselves to enjoy and for company occasionally. If people are over and I leave the room to attend to food, the cats, or something in another room; I hope they are looking around and enjoying our displays and ambiance.

I understand checking messages if we are together for hours. Otherwise, secondary modes of communication are how you stay in touch with people who aren't with you.

Waste is something I can't abide. There is a lot more I am willing to empty out of our home and living space if we sell it for profit, or give it as a gift. I even gather flowerpetals for birthday and Christmas cards. :)

Speaking of which, you must have read my letters that I received "Barbie" for Christmas, too. Ron wants "Oppenheimer" but I have no interest outside of the Canadian politics that concern the way we live here at home. He was happy to receive "Top Gun Maverick" instead and the "Jack Ryan" series. That is political but I love John Krasinski. It concerns many places and cultures in the world, with a fast pace that doesn't let you wait long to finish the DVDs.

Agreed, we don't know where the cars besides Dean's went after Joe's death. I wonder if Maggie indeed consider their usage a bad example for Adam, or if she slipped up in novel details. I have seen errors in novels before, with my memory at least. I remember in "The Other Side Of Midnight" by Simone St. James, a character put down her hat and a few pages later, adjusted it on her head. Some authors and editors are more careful about continuity than others. I would be a great person to hire for this in film making. This is where even authors who let their stories take them anywhere, should jot down some outline notes.

Yes, lakes are much less turbulent than oceans and don't have salt or dangerous wildlife in them. It goes without saying any large body of water can be a risk to encountering rocks, capsizing, swimming fatigue, and strong waves all of a sudden (like for "The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald"). However, lakes are nearer land and can be lightly rippling.

I appreciate what you have added, so you are not solely answering people's musings. Let me know if any other thoughts occur to you. I think I have expressed myself fully. I agree that a follow-up novel to the major events was wise and fulfilling, as fans of these characters and the story. You enlighten a more interesting element with their evolvement.

Even though Adam's life altered drastically because it was in view of readers, I propose that they all evolve equally. Except Persephone, the bitchy housemate (what is her name?), and Blue's cousin. Richard moved to Virginia from Washington (I think) and found his purpose. Ronan grieved his Dad and missed his Mom but is doing something about that, along with controlling dream content (literal content). He is aware he has sexual flexibility.

Blue stopped desting rich people or students and has made her most profound friendships. She knows her first boyfriend is not a lover to be. Maura is willing to date, possibly the first time since her husband vanished. She volunteered for who knows what mission. The characters have to stop disappearing after scrying in water bowls and her note should have been detailed.

Noah's family received closure. His remains are not missing or unknown. Did the Latin professor die or was he arrested? Noah's family and police know who killed him, don't they? He asked to be moved where he can appear and interact on Earth for now.

I will enjoy it if you and Shirin present new ideas or questions. I think all mine are out of the bag. :) Shirin will tell us if she wants to read "Lament" or "The Time Machine". I only know of an old film that my Uncle loves, unless I discover otherwise. You must have seen the classic. Acquainting the famous book will be a treat.

It is fun that artists about whom I am thinking or reading are combining to show up together for me these days. Kerri read Geena Davis's autobiography and I remember thinking I had found "Themla & Louise" despressing. I was keen to see her somewhere else and where does she appear? In a 1981 guest role on "Family Ties"! I was also surprised by Tom Hanks there.

I have been enjoying "The King Of Queens" and "Friends" reruns over lunch daily. Last night, I saw Brooke Shields' documentary, after having read "Down Came The Rain". The documentary showed her funny character on "Friends"! Later, I scrolled a satellite dish episode, reminded that Ben Stiller had been a crazy person on "Friends" too. Ben is of course, the son of two Hollywood and comedy "The King Of Queens" veterans, Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara!

I am a "Back To The Future" nut, who had run out of new details to relish about it. What do I see on "Family Ties" yesterday but a time travel episode, in which a Mike Fox character has to preserve the details of history! It is from 1985! I need to see if it preceded his invitation to film the greatest film release of all time from that year. Did they get the idea for casting him in the pivotal role, from that "Family Ties" episode?

This is fun TV history to ponder. The film premiered July 3, 1985. The "Philadelphia" episode aired January 17, 1985. It is possible it inspired Mike being cast! Eric Stoltz starting making the film in November but Robert Zemeckis wanted Mike instead. Mike had been his first choice but perhaps the serendipitous TV episode cemented it.

Hi Kerri! Any thoughts, perceptions, questions, favourite parts of your own to contribute? I always get a lot out of your perspectives.

Yes, that "Jumanji" scene and anything featuring Jack black is hilarious, including the music videos of he & his Brother's personal band, "Tenacious D". I am glad you enjoyed my Matthew Perry memories along with me, whose book was far funnier than most people (Americans? British?) picked up on. Exactly like Mike Fox, his whole way of speaking is to be wry even in times of stress: Canadian humour!

Recent interviews of Matthew's said his book was received and reviewed VERY positively so it must only be the usual "I don't get it" of Goodreads users that we often see. One thing that pisses me off is how small people treat their brain capacity, when they insist that stories "jump around". Oh, for fuck's sake: Matthew told his story from conception onward! You have to dip here & there to explain or update the content you are sharing or to draw an example! Nobody gets this: in real life, when we listen to anyone's story over coffee or the telephone, do we need them to cite a year in order? No! We just listen to each story being told!

If an author did forgo a timeline, so what! If people's attention span is that fragile, they need to put away their cell phones fast and only use them sparingly on a schedule. Yesterday, a religious lady from the USA complained about the word "fucking" in my Martha Grimes review and said she couldn't bear to read anymore. Oh my gosh, is her life so dainty that THIS is a difficulty? I looked at her profile and remarked that she ought to protest instead, the murder mysteries she was four-starring!

I love and need the uplifting wit and lightness of comedy. Have either of you seen "The King Of Queens"? I got into it in reruns about ten years ago and Ron had only seen a bit when I had it on. He loves the Kevin James movies we have. On new year's eve, we watched the blu-ray I gave him "Top Gun Maverick", which was fantastic. Then we relaxed to a "The King Of Queens" marathon on a satellite channel until we went to bed. Yesterday, Ron mentioned that he loved it and hopes we buy a box set sometime. He loves and needs laughter too. A happy spouse, a happy life both ways: amen!

Speaking of the lake, you have the ocean around you. Are you a swimmer or sailor? Is your Nan's beach a good one for swimming or soaking up your vitamin D? I wondered if you would dive from a rowboat with the ease of Blue and her cousin; calm waters than an ocean.

I have a good memory for most scenes, unless rushed by or blocked. I know TV shows by heart for example, after seeing them a couple of times. It is good the satellite changes what it airs, which is my background to lunch alone at home. I remember Adam laughing at a magician tarot card but did not read anything important into it like Shirin did. I am sure Adam was not laughting thinking "Yes, how uncanny, that feels like me". I felt that he was laughing in ridicule "Come on, as if I would be a magician". I don't sense he is going to be; only that his proficiency in nurturing and partnering with something as special as leylines is a marvel.

Thank you for explaining the change in the spider to me, Kerri. It could have killed him or Richard. Was it always perception he could change in the nick of time, or was the visit to the forest required? It would be terrible to lose a life over perception.

Kerri, I don't know if Niall was pushing Ronan outside the box. If a Dad wanted to teach a Son anything, he would discussing having a talent and recognize the same in his Son. This was explained at the beginning of the novel as the most profound family secret, level three. Once again, I pride myself in wondering if I have discerned plot points that the authoress forgot and misused, or if there is another way to look at it. This will be the benefit of discussing it with you friends!

Tempers are strange things. The Son may have been the only person his Father dared to attack physically. We have heard of other cases in which a spouse is attacked too. However, tempers and the worst part of personalities are usually selective. Most folks don't see my Brother's antagonisitic or religious intolerant side. I would trust Maggie's grasp of major concepts if she hadn't skipped the grief of Noah & his family. When an author covers natural emotions and behaviour right away, I know she is writing realistically.

Gosh, Persephone is not a one time guide. She contributes her impressions all the time and lives with Blue & her Mom. I do need Maggie to stop stating that she spoke quietly. We get that she is not bold like the other woman. Don't repeat that and make it annoying. A person with a good memory winces. I enjoy Alexander McCall Smith's mysteries in Botswana but he needs to stop calling the protagonist's vehicle "tiny white van". Sometimes it can just be "the white van" or "van".

Why would Ronan waste forest energy by pulling things for Adam from it, when he has all the money they need? No, Adam would see it as help anyway. Accepting good fortune in life is what he needs to do. I am happy he has a car from Helen.

Another realization came about the scenes with Joe. Even if you like the car scenes, I wonder if you agree that those scenes were too numerous in a story that usually sparkles with wonderment. Maggie could have depicted what she wanted to in one scene, with the follow-up. When Joe had several cars, I see that she wanted to convey waste. No one can contemplate having more than a couple of cars, the way Marty McFly's 1955 Grandparents couldn't fathom having more than one television. It is strange that Maggie didn't consider giving one car to Adam! It was a good getaway for Dean.

Ronan brought things to life unintentionally. Now he has been taught that he uses energy and will only ever do it out of need. Did he learn how to stop items from entering the waking world unintentionally? It appeared that he learned how to imagine objects into being but how about stopping stowaways before he woke up? Maybe learning how to use your ability generally branches out to control overall.

For example, I have heard for years, not only from Donna Eden since 2021: the more we use prayer, energy healing, and animal communication via our mutual intuition; the more we will tune into subtle signs and information. We are supposed to be able to better feel and see energy, such as aura colours. I don't yet but won't that be nice! I can understand that. For example, a lot of actors were anonymous to me when I saw their films as a kid. After I know who they are, I recognize them with surprise.

Yes indeed, it is our hope from the beginning that Blue can love whomever her heart desires and build a life with them, including kisses.

I want the fun and revelations to simmer and do prefer to read "Linger" first. I am waiting to know if Shirin is interested. I don't mind if it takes a month or two for you. I only need to know if you or Shirin are ordering a copy. I pre-ordered the sequel to "Call Down The Hawk". :) Is anyone keen and able to read "The Time Machine" any time? I want to read it soon and notice it is short. I would tuck into it soon, if getting copies took effort for either of you, or you weren't that interested.

Hi, Kerri! What new thoughts occured to you, questions or favourite parts? You mainly replied to me, which is gratifying. I look forward to new inspirations.

It will be interesting to see if Adam is gender flexible, needs to discover his preference, or is heterosexual and merely a plot interest pertaining to Ronan.

I hope Blue & Richard have permission to date without offending Adam, with whom Blue had only went out a few times. If they are afraid to kiss, there is no rush but my gosh, their passion seems genuine and strong! To be willing to press your heads together is intimate and sweet instead of sexual. To not require sexuality to want nearness, is the trait of love.

We all love seeing the childrens' home lives, which is the best way to acquaint anyone. My favourite visits with friends is in my home or theirs: intimate, in control of what we want to eat, how we want to share the time, which music we want to listen to, and it saves money. A true friend gets to know my home, family including my animals, plants and gardens, and browses my book and music collection. :)

I am torn about Adam's Mom. I do understand wanting to resolve problems, including violence without involving police and having family in jail. It is hard I know, if they provide your home and income. However, the violence was out of hand and continued to occur. Mrs. Parish had no way of getting it to improve, unless she threatened a separation until he sobered up but the dude needed anger management regardless. I don't remember if he had alcohol, do you ladies? I think he attacked from his temper.

I feel like I dislike Mrs. Parish because she could speak with her Son privately to show unity. Say "I love you but you are safer out of the house until I decide whether or not I want to stay with your Dad, even if he gets a professional behaviour adjustment". In the year 2012 when these were published, adults know not to say attacks occurred because family did not tiptoe around violent people correctly. With police already there to help Adam, wanted or not, I am disappointed in her for thinking Adam should blame the helpful friend, to spare the violent Dad any trouble. That is the epitome of "enabling bad behaviour".

Shirin, I reread your observation that the novel should not need spend much time on Adam feeling insulted that Blue decided to stop dating him. I think the coverage it got was okay, especially when it lead to the emotional and mental clean-up Persephone gave him while he was there. I agree, however, that I hope Maggie stops depicting Adam as doubting his friendships and the stupid refusal to take some money. It is tiresome and enough was said.

Kerri, I don't think Adam needs to pay them back, even if it is the incentive to get him to accept a boost. A few thousand dollars is pennies to them and would make life easier for Adam that year. He is clearly going to make his own way throughout life and a bonus is all right. I wouldn't object to an advantage, unless it was a disadvantage to a generous person who was not wealthy. Rich friends like those, one of whom obtained wealth magically? I would happily thank them for free tuition and rent. Life produces other expenses.

We love Adam's new purpose and new confidence. I hope his ear heals too. We all wonder how Noah's afterlife will go next. The murderer was known by Noah all along and discovered by his friends, wasn't it? I don't remember if the teacher died or was arrested; please refresh me on both of these details.

My favourite part is Ronan caring about pinkies (baby mice) and sharing that wonderment with his friends. I loved meeting his Mom and how much Ronan & Matthew loved being home. I loved the intelligent dream with their Dad, whereupon Ronan is given permission to use the loophole he saw in Niall's will.

I love the warmth of the Ganseys. I love Adam's relief at understanding why he can see spirits of unknown people and allows them to ask favours, or council him. Who are these people: usual regional spirits visible from the leyline? Messengers from the leyline lifeforce communicating with him? Is there anything either of you are wondering that you encountered in the novel?

I have a question about that giant spider. How did he become on Ronan's side, instead of attacking him before? Maybe a word from Ronan that he was in control was the ticket. However, did Ronan do much that he hadn't done before to try to avoid an attack? It was symbolic of facing a fear and removing it but why did the giant spider not listen to him before?

Do we think Dean should pay for past crimes, even though we understand his numbed care and feelings came from a sociopath, abuse sibling? I am glad he is reforming but shouldn't the lives lost, thugs or not, be confronted?

Another favourite part is the complete humour and brashness of the lake and boat! The girls had no fear of what was in the water or hesitating of disrobing a little and getting wet! This was the only action for their Welsh quest and by gum, they didn't wait to dive right in: literally! It is so funny, the boys would have debated who should leave the dry boat, while the girls were already in the water before anyone said a word!

Did you see the second "Jumanji" film with Jack Black and Dwayne Johnson? I laughed the most in the beginning. They had just arrived and noticed something dangerous approaching them. Dwayne turned to his friends to say they should leave. When the camera aims at them, they are already up the hill, running away! Is it just me, or do you find subtle little things like this funny too?

I have found a satellite dish channel that airs "Friends" all day. Witty asides are what make shows like that, "The King Of Queens", "Family Ties", "The Big Bang Theory", and "Ghosts" (US version) outstanding. I can't keep my eyes off of the young Matthew Perry, who ties for my favourite with David Schwimmer. Joey's and Phoebe's characters were stupid and sometimes Rachel. For me; Chandler, Ross, and Monica made the show. I am glad I met Courtney Cox, although she was not Monica yet!

I just saw Joey showing his Italian Grandma a TV show he appeared in. They saw that his scene was cut and he thought she would be outrageously disappointed. He quickly ran to his apartment, used a videotape to film himself, and ran back to Monica's & Chandler's apartment to play it. You two know that videotapes cover up previous recordings, right? Where the new material stops, old material past it keeps on playing on videotapes.

It is the funniest thing I ever saw when Joey's faked recording ends and we suddenly see Chandler onscreen, obviously playing around in a moment that was private! He ran to the TV to shut it off as we enjoy a recording of him suddenly singing "Space Oddity" by David Bowie! It is so well done, these little additions that make funny shows spectacular and unforgettable. Matthew Perry was a sensitive, well timed genuis.

I am adding these parts after breakfast. What follows below this part about Matthew, was already written: coincidental but wistfully a propos.

Kerri, we have spirit guides and guardian angels who are not necessarily relatives from past lives. Spirit guides have had Earth lives, so they understand the challenges of physical humanity. Angels can be ancient entities who precede our physical lifetimes. On these positive notes, I join Ron for our vegetarian, week-end breakfast!

Hi, happy new year! It is nice to see you both! Shirin, are you keen on "Lament", an older fairy novel, or would you prefer to proceed with "Blue Lily, Lily Blue"?

Shirin, you are saying exactly what I was trying to convey! That is right, I was never bored but that car racing and boy rivalry brought down the quality of a magical novel. It was ugly, unpleasant, and had nothing to do with the exciting quest directly. You also expressed beautifully with Kerri's interpretation, that Ronan had things to learn from Joe. We concur that contrast between characters was helpful. However, you added soemthing I had not thought of, Shirin, which is why your input is awesome! You are right: Joe has no friends, family, or fans! He hangs around with a few boys but has no actual support! I learn so much from you ladies and am glad we collaborate.

I don't think Adam has knowledge but great perception. He and Persephone can read and interpret information that comes to them and sense it better than others. Persephone certainly knows how psychic and metaphysical things work, because she knew Adam's energy needed balancing, or something needed clearing from his overwhelmed system. I don't think she has any information about the Owen Glendower quest. I think like Maura, she just is really good at reading what is around her.... Unless she is the orphan child from the forest.

Hmm, Shirin.... time travel! I thought time might be bent, flexible, fluid around the forest and that land. Might they actually time travel, which could explain why they can't see Neeve, Maura, and Blue's Dad? That is an interesting idea! I don't think he died. Was that said anywhere?

I think your conclusion is the same as mine, that there was mystery, magic, and information discovery in this novel but that the rebel boy parts dampened it. Yes, it is a good way to put it, Shirin. Those parts, while helpful like Kerri discussed, lasted for too many pages and chapters, in place of more sparkle and pizzazz. I also don't think we needed so much of Dean in the story, unless he is going to become an ally.

In conclusion, you enjoyed this novel at four stars. I shared your critiques but find it better than many books and still allotted five stars to its quality and originality. I started by answering Shirin's very enlightening opinions and now I will read Kerri's. :)

I like to keep the best stories ongoing. I might read "Lament" this new year soon, in case it is not as special as the Raven friends and family. Are you interested, with access to a copy? As for "The Dream Thieves": finishing books is what really opens our freedom to talk about everything. So my friends: bring it! :-)

Postponing a bulkier Gmail until February is good. Goodreads page updating was back last night. I would know, since I use it daily like one is supposed to! It is useful besides for myself, only if you lot regularly update your reading for me to see! ;>

Google is giving customers until February before enforcing "standard view" e-mail. I tried it and it is slow, although thankfully I can load it. I hope there are protests on behalf of slow internet users so that they keep their "basic view", or push back its removal. There will be decent ISPs in rural Canada eventually.

What we need today, is for Goodreads to put page progress back! It is my #1 activity on this website. Setting my page progress is gratifying to do every morning. Personal friends reach me by e-mail. When group members don't write updates, it helps to see where in a book they are. Daily page progress needs to come back and book pages need to revert back to the format they had previously.

I hope Goodreads allows slow-speed internet customers to access their standard format with ease. They remove the light e-mail version many of us have been using, tomorrow. If I take time to reply by e-mail, please advise this might be why.

Happy, wonderful, glorious New Year 2024 to us all! Love, your friend, Carolyn

I love our conversations and guesses as we read together, Shirin & Kerri. When we are finished a book, is when exhilarating discussions get grooving! I have great ideas about subjects to ponder. I hope you are inspired by them, as much as I will relish answering yours.

I am in a position of agreeing and disagreeing in various ways, which makes it fun to see what we consider next! For example, I agree with Shirin that it is more compelling and magical to work on the Owen Glendower mystery and to be among the talking trees and unique forest. Plants and animals are always sentient but these are obvious to everyone, without needing to train ourselves in extrasensory perception sensitivity, you know what I mean? The way some places are haunted so anyone could see a spirit, even if they do not normally; or the way Noah is visible to everyone because of leyline strength.

I also agree, Shirin, that ugly parts like Dean Allen attacking Duncan, Joe stealing Matthew, racing and crashing cars, Adam refusing money and working three jobs while being a pupil..... take away from the joy of mystery questing and the fun and humour among friends. I thought Kerri was insane for saying she liked Joe!

I meet Kerri in the middle on these observations by agreeing that instead of questing progress, were answers and developments to the big events of volume one. I disagree with the cliché of there being more questions. We got a lot of answers and Maggie Stiefvater simply built on it, with more food for thought to. We are accustomed to authors rushing through plots but major ones like these merit exploration. There was enough discovery and action that justified a book in itself. Besides wishing the ugly threats and dangerous car nonsense was done: I was never bored, I was compelled by the humour, romance, and discovery that did arise, and I still loved enough contents to give five stars again.

Shirin, when you said "you had not reached the part about Persephone", I reassure you that there was no scene to spoil. I wonder where she came from and the rest of the 400 Fox Way women because they are not relatives. Now that everyone has finished reading "The Dream Thieves": I wonder if Persephone is so special because she was the orphan girl in the magical forest. Time twists and who knows at which points Ronan visits it. She might be like "the nexis" in the Star Trek film "Generations"; a place where memories are replayed, with which we can interact.

My only other criticism, besides replanting roses, is that I dislike repetitive things. Dean Allen seeing the psychics connected with the people he sought, resembled Noah's killer finding them. Maggie should avoid that. However, the exception is that Dean develops a purpose and a heart. Maura vanishing the way her stepsister did in the first novel, seems dry instead of exciting. I especially do not like new questions as novel endings. I like a resolved novel with only the major mystery to work on during the series. We do not need the drama of Maura being out of sight, to be invested in the story of Blue's family.

While Persephone has crazy psychic skills, such as sensing a card 14 places into a deck, Maura is very special for just seeing people as emotional and mental beings, instead of good or bad. Most of us would avoid someone who admitted to being a killer. Maura pitied Dean's heart being dulled by a terrible Brother.

It is the same way I am someone who does not see colour: people have never been colours to me. I grew up with people from all over the world, as a Canadian and in some special situations as a child. Other people don't see gender and are willing to have a romance with anyone. These examples helped me picture Maura's flexibility.

Maybe she feels safe around people generally because she can read their dispositions and intentions enough to get out of the way if need be. She must also have experienced that when you are compassionate to everyone, even mean people calm down or feel their best selves rise to the top of their comportment.

I felt like Joe was needless to the story and got in the way. I guess the wrecked camaro is why we found Richard's steering wheel in the pond, although it should not have been old. His presence was justified at the end, when we learn he can dream things into being. Ronan only carried things out of lack of control of the bizarre ability. Too bad his Dad had not been open about it, to share how much he learned about those experiences. Ronan only took an item or two as needed, or for practise.

I saw reasons to agree with Kerri that Joe was a warning and I add too, a contrast. We thought Dean Allen was terrible, until we heard of his Brother. We thought Ronan was a jerk, with a loveable side affected by grief, until we met Joe. Most importantly, we learn that having a similar ability is meaningless, if you do not use it to a good purpose. I do not know if Niall was a Greywaren while he was alive but Ronan is the only one now.

Did you catch why, ladies? It seems to be because Ronan can speak with them, he cares, and he listens, about how to be respectful and follow the forest's council. I don't think Joe heard the orphan girl, animals, or trees.

Shirin, I am glad we were right about Adam not being in peril, after Persephone helped adjust his energy or whatever it was. He was metamorphosing into developing leyline and spirit reading talents! We presumed "a sacrifice" meant something sinister or a loss. I am happy it mean instead being dedicated to helped, just as the boy offered. He only needs to come when the leyline calls, like a beautiful ally that such a strong energy needed from a humble human. It was a wonderful moment for me, to watch Adam travelling two hours to fix the leyline with Persephone's assistance.

I suggest Tarot cards were needless and cheapened that moment. I don't know if Maggie believes in extrasensory abilities or has learned how they work in reality. I have learned a little. We are born with all the tools we need to read atmospheres and situations. Indeed, Ronan is correct that there is a negative connotation with Tarot cards for those of us who grew up religious. Simply using our perception however, is natural.

In conclusion, I miss the quest but understand we needed a good whole book, to catch up and explain big events and changes for the whole team of friends. It was a very imformative novel in my opinion to visit Ronan's, Richard's, and Blue's home lives.

I never thought the Ganseys were snobby. The aeroplane ride from Helen and brief conversations with their parents in the first novel showed they are sweet people. He simply felt he had a home and purpose elsewhere. Now we know they are lovely, like Blue's family and Ronan's. I loved how they cancelled whatever had been planned, when a friend of their Son's needed help. I hope Adam visits his Mom, who might be a good person too, confused and caught between a Son and husband like no one wants.

It is also nice to balance dynamics. Blue empowers other people and is wonderfully self-confident and intelligent. Richard too is confident in personality, a loving background, plus financial ease. Ronan is confident in family background, self-defense training, and financial ease. Now Adam too has a purpose besides work, school, and feeling separating from a home and family. How unique, to be a leyline guardian and ally. He should not feel like "the odd friend out" any more.

I don't know if Adam has established an orientation preference, or if he is open like Ronan might be. Richard pushed him to pursue Blue. It will be interesting if these boys bond in a romantic way. If they do, it will be my first time reading LGBT romance content! Maybe they both acted tough to conceal or postpone their orientation, in a world that is still unsure how to be comfortable with it. I hope everyone keeps the group friendship balances, no matter whom they choose. It is nice for Blue & Richard to ensure they do not disrespect or offend Adam, until they are sure he adjusts to Blue's decision not to pursue a romance with him.

An additional contrast occurred to me: a warning that drugs are unnatural and never the approach to anything. Although Ronan needed to learn to control his dreams, he did not remove anything on purpose. He learned how to choose one item at a time, with the trees' permission. Joe passing out via drugs made his attitude ugly and unmagical. Staying in harmony with nature is always a good message.

What interesting and amusing thoughts occurred to the two of you, my friends? Merry Christmas, God bless you both, and happy New Year 2024! Love, Carolyn.

Merry Christmas to my friends and reader's community! God bless you all. May we all be happy, healthy, safe, and at peace at home and where we travel. Happy, wonderful, glorious New Year 2024 to us all! Love, your friend, Carolyn.

Shirin, of course I want to have a copy of "Opal" well before we read it! We do not wait to obtain them. I have bought pieces of series for twenty years before opening them. I am glad I will easily procure a copy. Congratulations on your job option!

I think Crabeswater is a real place, which Ronan happened to visit while sleeping. Joseph might teach him how to steal but he has no respect for living entities or spiritual ones. It is better to only use what we need and to ask those from whom our helpful items come. There is no reason, not even a rare skill in common, to be anywhere near that dangerous kid. There is no loyalty, wisdom, intelligence, or caution in him.

No crashing vehicles or any other objects for me, thank you. I saw a demolition derby and hated it. I respect building and do not believe in damaging anything. I disapprove of the danger of horse or car racing too. An animal galloping for fun at their own pleasure and skill, sure. Never for money, where they make jumping and other challenges more difficult. You get injured eventually and entertainment is never worth it.

I am glad you loved every part of the novel. I wanted to get past fighting, crashing, attacking, and monsters to return to the mystery quest. Since there was no mystery quest, I was satisfied to see characters develop and to answer smaller mysteries and to see spectacular phenomenon. I hope we stick to that and the quest from now on. I still enjoyed this at a five star level. That is right, "filler" does not mean empty of a plot. It put the Welsh paranormal mystery on hold.

Yes, Shirin, we see more proof that Adam is developing new attunement, sensitivity, awareness, and skills. I love when he and Persephone drive across miles to repair the leyline, where creeks or rocks obstructed the vibrancy of its energy. It is good for people with low self-esteem like Adam, to learn a purpose for something good.

My complaint is that they moved a rosebush to extricate a large stone in a flowerbed. Persephone apologized for removing it from the soil. It need not die: had they not heard of transplanting? Dig a new hole and replace the rosebush in the same flowerbed!

It is true that friends take care of each other. You both have been there for me as recenty as three weeks ago. However, this is not why we choose friends, it is a benefit of loyalty and care. Ronan was happy before his Dad got killed. It is very clear that Dean Allen did it, the Gray guy's name. But you are right, Shirin, that it makes no sense. They were looking for the greywaren and didn't know Niall was one of them!

Very funny about laughing at Roger's penchant for watching flying pigeons. I think pigeons and puffins are both beautiful, as are ravens and everybird I have seen.

I never expected to dislike Richard's parents because they were wealthy and wonder why you did. He is a very respectful, intelligent, likeable young man and his parents were sweet when we met them in the first book. Yes, they were phenomenal when they didn't hesitate to cancel anything they had going and looked for Adam, including Richard's Sister, Helen who had booked a flight. I would have insisted that Adam take a good car and some helpful money. They even tiptoed around his feelings. What he needs to do is live with his friends and remove the stress of working extra for rent.

I like that Blue made her romantic choice and Ronan is not shying away from his, if asked directly. Matthew is a darling. Declan is a good Brother in the short story prequels. I wonder why Ronan dislikes him as teenagers. Does you know?

Rest assured that I am happy to talk about a lot from these wonderful books, that does not spoil where you are, dear Shirin. Bonne nuit! Carolyn.