Can You Be 'Too Old' for YA? Our Expert Opinion: No
Marie Pabelonio is an associate editor at Goodreads. She also manages the Young Adult newsletter. Here she discusses why "youth" isn't a requirement for YA fans.
"Young people don't read anymore," cries your local cynic. "They're always on their phones."
Clearly, they've never met a YA reader.
YA readers show up to author signings dressed as their favorite character. YA readers camp out at bookstores, waiting for the midnight release of a beloved series installment. YA readers use their spare time to write fan fiction, make GIF sets, and create blogs with the same fervor people have for pop stars and TV shows.
So it's no surprise that YA books have some of the most passionate fandoms.
Jonathan Sanchez, cofounder and director of YALLfest, describes the festival as "a chance to be with your 'tribe' of fellow Marissa Meyer or Leigh Bardugo or Angie Thomas fans." Here lines of avid YA readers stretch along the streets of the main historic district of Charleston, South Carolina. "There's like a whole 'line culture'—sort of like sneaker fans—where by being in this ridiculous line together you show that you are in a unique but significant group."
The passion is contagious, but do you have to be 18 and under to enjoy it?
Or are older YA readers doomed to live out this Steve Buscemi meme from 30 Rock whenever they encounter other fans?
The good news is that older YA readers aren't an anomaly.
There are currently 15.8 million Goodreads members who marked "young adult" as their favorite genre on our site. While only 20 percent of those readers disclosed their age, 65 percent of that sample are 18 and older and 33 percent are above the age of 35. Based on our data, we can infer that older readers represent a healthy portion of the young adult audience, if not the majority.
So while the term "young adult" nods to a specific age group (industry insiders agree the age range for those readers is generally between 12 and 18 or 14 and 19), the category is far more inclusive than you'd think.
"Of course, interest in YA doesn't immediately stop once someone turns 19," says Erica Barmash, senior director of marketing and publicity at Bloomsbury Children's Books. "And there are younger kids reading up as well."
A quick look at the 1 million–plus Goodreads members who completed The Hunger Games tells us that 64 percent of those readers who disclosed their age are between 18 and 35. Of the 115,000-plus Goodreads members who completed The Hate U Give, 60 percent of those readers who disclosed their age are between 18 and 35.
"Just because a narrative in a YA novel might take place when those characters are teenagers doesn't mean the experiences represented aren't relevant to people outside of that age bracket," says Lindsay Boggs, assistant director of publicity at Penguin Young Readers. "Even as an adult, I often reflect on my teen years. I don't think I'm alone in that."
But does reading books about teens make older readers juvenile and immature? There doesn't seem to be a stigma for the opposite: Younger readers are rarely faulted for savoring books lauded by adults.
To answer that question, it's worth noting what draws readers to young adult books in the first place.
First: idealism. Young adult books are brimming with it.
Think The Illuminae Files, The Red Queen, or the Throne of Glass series. Also, more recent standalones, including Internment and The Hate U Give. Whether contemporary or fantastical, fighting for a better world is an empowering notion for readers of all ages. "Chosen ones" often have to make the toughest choices themselves to overcome and create change.
Second: intensity. Young adult books don't skimp on the emotional drama.
Take any quote from some of our readers' favorite YA classics. "They weren't looking for a fight. They were looking to belong," says S.E. Hinton in The Outsiders, one of the original "young adult" novels. "In that moment, I swear we were infinite," writes Stephen Chbosky in The Perks of Being a Wallflower.
Growing up is a lifelong journey of self-discovery. No one leaves high school, college, or their second career feeling like they have it all together.
"I believe many adults like the coming-of-age nature of YA," says Todd Krueger, president of the Young Adult Library Services Association (YALSA). "It allows adult readers a reminder of a time of possibility, even if their own adolescences weren't spectacular."
So we know that themes in YA books are universal. We know that their readership is wide. What, then, is the actual definition of a YA reader?
"In my view, a young adult reader is anyone who enjoys reading and engaging with YA literature, regardless of age," says Emma Kantor, associate children's book editor at Publishers Weekly. "The wonderful thing about YA is that the category continues to expand in terms of genre, format, and content, meaning there really is something for every kind of reader."
"I don't believe that there truly is one way to define a YA reader," says Meghan Harrington, an associate publicist at St. Martin's Press & Wednesday Books. "YA readership includes everyone, whether you are 13 or 42."
So for the record, you don't have to be young to enjoy young adult books. You shouldn't feel embarrassed about identifying with characters who may be half your age or more. Reading is reading—so read unapologetically. Yes, growing up often means moving on, but you don't have to leave behind the stories that speak to you.
Check out complete coverage of YA Week:
The Best YA Books of 2019 (So Far)
The Top 100 YA Books on Goodreads
The Most Anticipated YA Books
Clearly, they've never met a YA reader.
YA readers show up to author signings dressed as their favorite character. YA readers camp out at bookstores, waiting for the midnight release of a beloved series installment. YA readers use their spare time to write fan fiction, make GIF sets, and create blogs with the same fervor people have for pop stars and TV shows.
So it's no surprise that YA books have some of the most passionate fandoms.
Jonathan Sanchez, cofounder and director of YALLfest, describes the festival as "a chance to be with your 'tribe' of fellow Marissa Meyer or Leigh Bardugo or Angie Thomas fans." Here lines of avid YA readers stretch along the streets of the main historic district of Charleston, South Carolina. "There's like a whole 'line culture'—sort of like sneaker fans—where by being in this ridiculous line together you show that you are in a unique but significant group."
The passion is contagious, but do you have to be 18 and under to enjoy it?
Or are older YA readers doomed to live out this Steve Buscemi meme from 30 Rock whenever they encounter other fans?

The good news is that older YA readers aren't an anomaly.
There are currently 15.8 million Goodreads members who marked "young adult" as their favorite genre on our site. While only 20 percent of those readers disclosed their age, 65 percent of that sample are 18 and older and 33 percent are above the age of 35. Based on our data, we can infer that older readers represent a healthy portion of the young adult audience, if not the majority.
So while the term "young adult" nods to a specific age group (industry insiders agree the age range for those readers is generally between 12 and 18 or 14 and 19), the category is far more inclusive than you'd think.
"Of course, interest in YA doesn't immediately stop once someone turns 19," says Erica Barmash, senior director of marketing and publicity at Bloomsbury Children's Books. "And there are younger kids reading up as well."
A quick look at the 1 million–plus Goodreads members who completed The Hunger Games tells us that 64 percent of those readers who disclosed their age are between 18 and 35. Of the 115,000-plus Goodreads members who completed The Hate U Give, 60 percent of those readers who disclosed their age are between 18 and 35.
"Just because a narrative in a YA novel might take place when those characters are teenagers doesn't mean the experiences represented aren't relevant to people outside of that age bracket," says Lindsay Boggs, assistant director of publicity at Penguin Young Readers. "Even as an adult, I often reflect on my teen years. I don't think I'm alone in that."
But does reading books about teens make older readers juvenile and immature? There doesn't seem to be a stigma for the opposite: Younger readers are rarely faulted for savoring books lauded by adults.
To answer that question, it's worth noting what draws readers to young adult books in the first place.
First: idealism. Young adult books are brimming with it.
Think The Illuminae Files, The Red Queen, or the Throne of Glass series. Also, more recent standalones, including Internment and The Hate U Give. Whether contemporary or fantastical, fighting for a better world is an empowering notion for readers of all ages. "Chosen ones" often have to make the toughest choices themselves to overcome and create change.
Second: intensity. Young adult books don't skimp on the emotional drama.
Take any quote from some of our readers' favorite YA classics. "They weren't looking for a fight. They were looking to belong," says S.E. Hinton in The Outsiders, one of the original "young adult" novels. "In that moment, I swear we were infinite," writes Stephen Chbosky in The Perks of Being a Wallflower.
Growing up is a lifelong journey of self-discovery. No one leaves high school, college, or their second career feeling like they have it all together.
"I believe many adults like the coming-of-age nature of YA," says Todd Krueger, president of the Young Adult Library Services Association (YALSA). "It allows adult readers a reminder of a time of possibility, even if their own adolescences weren't spectacular."
So we know that themes in YA books are universal. We know that their readership is wide. What, then, is the actual definition of a YA reader?
"In my view, a young adult reader is anyone who enjoys reading and engaging with YA literature, regardless of age," says Emma Kantor, associate children's book editor at Publishers Weekly. "The wonderful thing about YA is that the category continues to expand in terms of genre, format, and content, meaning there really is something for every kind of reader."
"I don't believe that there truly is one way to define a YA reader," says Meghan Harrington, an associate publicist at St. Martin's Press & Wednesday Books. "YA readership includes everyone, whether you are 13 or 42."
So for the record, you don't have to be young to enjoy young adult books. You shouldn't feel embarrassed about identifying with characters who may be half your age or more. Reading is reading—so read unapologetically. Yes, growing up often means moving on, but you don't have to leave behind the stories that speak to you.
Check out complete coverage of YA Week:
The Best YA Books of 2019 (So Far)
The Top 100 YA Books on Goodreads
The Most Anticipated YA Books
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Same here!

Yes! This.


YES, exactly.


crazy, not my favourite genre actually"
In my opinion, Middle Grade is 10-14. Teen, now called Young Adult is 15-18. New Adult is 19-25 or college-age. Adult is 25+. And these categories refer to content as well as age-range of characters. But according to this (https://www.sfwa.org/2013/02/an-intro...), MG is 8-12 and Young Adult is 12-18. No frickin wayyyyy should 12 y/o be lumped with 18 y/o. And again, these are not genres, they are just categories for who these types of books are intended for.



So I would have been too young to read YA but luckily I was able and allowed to already read adult fiction when I was 12, and I have been reading it almost exclusively since I was around 15 or 16 (there was this one series I wanted to read and finish, mainly for nostalgic reasons, even though I wasn't reading other youth novels anymore). I simply grew out of it.
I really don't understand its appeal, or why people are so eager to limit themselves to a tiny section of books when there is so many to choose from outside of it, and even be proud of it... IMO if you have to label a book somehow (a novel vs. a YA novel), it already makes it sound like it's a bit "less" than a book without that label. I prefer to read books, not YA books.

So I would have been too young to read YA but luckily I was able and allowed to already read adult fiction when I was 12, and..."
It's based on maturity level and every reader is different. I was reading Outlander at 13. But that doesn't mean all 13 y/o should be reading it.

I read all of those authors and I read YA books. And MG books. There's good and bad content in every age category and every genre, well-written or poorly written. Enjoying a novel targeted at a certain age range has nothing to do with age at all, chronological or some arbitrary "reading age."

But there is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to read it. (Except that it's pretty boring, too long, and not very good, which probably means few would be interested in reading it at all.)

But there is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to read it. (Except that it's pretty boring, too long, and not very good,..."
I didn't say they shouldn't be allowed. Just that it's based on maturity level.

How constructive.


I like to read the occasional YA fantasy if the premise intrigues me, but when I'm finished I usually think to myself, that would have been way better if it was written as an adult novel (ie. characters that were aged up slightly, with more life experience, and not so angsty!). Totally defeats the purpose of YA, but would make for better-written and more satisfying books. But sometimes I like a quick, entertaining read and that's ok too!

Really real mature adult books are boring so I have zero interest in reading them.

I personally see more purpose in my existence than just sex hence I don't need this kind of underage soft porn. The story beside the se..."
I completely agree. I would say the less sex they have, the more popular they are. Also, the more "sexy" books are usually marketed as NA and not YA.
I am 37 and I still read plenty of YA books.
However. For the last 5 years or so I've noticed that I don't enjoy YA books as much as I used to because they are not written for someone my age anymore, simple as that. I am not the target audience for most of the YA books out there, and that's totally fine. There are other books I really enjoy now that I wouldn't as much 5 or 10 years ago. And there still are a few brilliant YA books out there.
Also, as I mentioned above, the way publishers choose to market their books plays a huge role. Some books that are marketed YA for example shouldn't be, and the false advertising actually doesn't do them any favours with teens or pre-teens who pick them up thinking they are YA and end up disliking them because they are ultimately not.
Just read whatever makes you happy and helps you escape reality even for a little bit, that would be my advice 🙂

Does that also apply to adults who read YA? And what about the younger teenagers? If YA authors write to cater adult tastes, where does that leave them?

Apparently many YA readers do care what people think, I never see such attempt among other readers to convince themselves (and others) that there is nothing strange about that. Most people don't really care what others read, unless it's always being forced down our throats like YA is. It's getting annoying.

Really real mature adult books are boring so I have zero interest in reading them."
If you have accustomed yourself to read books that are all of the same type, then yeah, I guess one might feel that. That's not the truth, though, because the majority of novels is still regular fiction, and the authors represent all kinds of people from all over the world and most of them are not writing simplified fiction for teenagers.

Really real mature adult books are boring so I have zero interest in reading them."
If y..."
Whoa, let's not generalise here. YA books are not all of the same type, and neither is general fiction books. Now as you said, general fiction is the majority of fiction out there, so statistically their authors represent more diverse people, I agree. However, more general fiction books means way more flops, again statistically speaking. Not that all YA books are amazing, far from it.
My point is, we shouldn’t generalise. There are gems and dregs from both categories of books. Readers can read whatever they want and ultimately express their likes and dislikes. But I think it’s a bit unfair to say that YA is “forced down your throat”. Just like it would be totally unfair for me to say that all general fiction readers are pretentious snobs.
Generalisations suck, let’s not do it.

There's still so many I want to read, and that I love (like Jacqueline Wilson- I bought some of her books recently).
And when I go to the library, I usually go to the children's section and get books.
I haven't read as many YA books (though I'm 15), but sometimes I feel like they're 'too old' for me, like when the characters are usually around 17 and things like kissing, sex, swearing and stuff are written about (I don't really like swearing and love scenes are gross).
I still like YA though, most of the YA books I've read have been really good.
Also since I feel like YA books CAN be read by adults, then I might as well spend my teen years reading all the children books I want to read.
I also feel like I would enjoy Children and YA books more than Adult (except for true story); I feel like a lot of adult books are either romance or thriller/mystery, and like it's more popular/relatable/believable (?) when e.g. fantasy characters are in YA/Children's books.

I started reading YA books on a regular basis about 10 years ago. What I've come to notice is that some of them could be focused for teenagers, but others could be focused for people in their early to mid-twenties and even others still could be considered borderline children's/YA books depending on where you find the books.
Before I got into YA books I was reading Hardy Boys Mysteries. I started reading those when I was 10 or 11 and didn't stop until about 10 years ago. I finally donated all of them about 5 years ago. (I had over 50 used copies of the books I only read about 35 of them)
Growing up there was no YA section. It was kids, teens, and adults.
I may not be a YA anymore but I sure do feel like one.

OH WAIT a minute - That's the Jefferson who owned Slaves, right? never mind; that proves he was an idiot... the Latin and..."
You leapt from one unrelated piece of information to another: Does being multilingual mean that a person is morally upright? French was my first language, but I'm fluent in English & conversant in Spanish: Does this mean that I can brutalize other humans and still be considered a "good" person? Enslaving human beings of another race & raping an enslaved girl (who was not remotely an adult) did not make Jefferson an "idiot." It made him an evil racist rapist & pedophile. Education does not equal Goodness.

YES! Someone else who finally said it! Like, for fucks sake. Who on earth wants to STAY in their adolescence?

Well yes, they are, because they are usually about a 16-year-old or thereabouts American girl (sometimes a boy, but usually American, even when set in another country because the mindset is American, like the author), who is often somehow special, or very ordinary but still special, and there is a romance, too. They are also usually written in first person and there are probably some other similarities, as well. Whereas when it comes to general fiction there are countless possible protagonists and styles of writing, some books don't even have a main character, for example.
AtenRa wrote: "However, more general fiction books means way more flops, again statistically speaking."
I don't really know what you mean by "flops", it's normal that not all people like the same books, some may like a book that you thought was awful. A lot of interesting books will never become bestsellers because they are complicated and demand more from the reader. But because general fiction has been written mainly for adults, people who in some cases have been reading for several decades and even thousands of books, more is demanded of them, compared to YA books that are meant for teenagers with limited life experiences who may have only read children's books until then.
And yes, YA is being forced down my throat, and I don't really care if you want to call people who read general fiction "pretentious snobs" because frankly it says more about you than it does about the millions of adults who read normal fiction written for adults and not something that was meant for teenagers.


Well yes, they are, because they are usually about a 16-year-old or thereabouts American girl (sometimes a bo..."
Well said! Let's not forget that some YA fans themselves have admitted in these comments that it's often full of clichés and certain tropes. Everyone can read whatever they want, but trying to make YA something it's not is doing a disservice to everyone. I mean, the term "adult book" includes authors like James Joyce and John Grisham. YA books don't have that kind of variation, because in general sense they belong to the same world.

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You need to grow up

You sound like an immensely fun and self-aware person. Keep shining all that sunshine and don't stop being the fun at parties, Shlo.


That is precisely what I do. I am 51 and I still enjoy some ya books. I read for pure pleasure. I have always and will always read what I like.


It's not a question of how old is the main character. "Adult" fiction is written for everyone mature enough to understand it, from about 12-year-old children to 120-year-old pensioners. The main character can be a child or even a dog, or a robot, it really doesn't matter. Many classics have teenagers or even younger children as their main characters.
YA is written FOR 16-year-olds (who, ironically, are called "young adults", even though they are not adults and need a special category of books catered for them because for some reason they don't want to read normal "adult" novels), just like children's books are written for children who are, understandably, not old enough to read regular fiction. (In some cases they are also written to humour adults because it's the parents reading them to their children, and sometimes the authors have just written them.)
So most people do find it a bit strange that adults are (only/mostly) reading books that are meant for 14-18-year-olds who have grown out of children's books but haven't matured enough to read general fiction and that they even praise them proudly. Especially ones like me who were reading "adult novels" before turning 10... If they are good enough books for everyone, then why they are labeled as YA, limiting their potential readership? I know I won't bother to look for them, there are millions of interesting books in the adult section to choose from already which were written for adult readers, not to pander teenagers. (Or at least hundreds of thousands...)
The question at hand is can you be too old to read YA. In my opinion, yes, yes you can.