Fancasting Legend characters

I’ve heard that there has been some bickering among Legend fans about the fancasts of the characters–mostly, that some choose to cast Caucasian actors and some choose to cast PoC actors, and that I originally envisioned Metias to look something like Ben Barnes, who is clearly Caucasian, even though Metias and June are technically of mixed race.

This is a valid complaint. All of the arguments are valid. The thing is, I have never been good at casting my characters. I sketch them out in an attempt to know what they look like, but it’s so very particular that casting is always difficult for me. It’s entirely possible that I am envisioning Metias to be way whiter than he should be. The Iparis siblings are a melting pot of ethnicities–in my notes, I wrote them down as being of Hispanic, Native American, and White heritage (based on populations that live in Southern California). I’ve envisioned June as everyone from Hailee Steinfeld to a young Morena Baccarin to a young Priyanka Chopra. I think she would fit any of these. I also admit that I did originally write Metias while picturing Ben Barnes in my head.

There are Legend characters who are very obviously PoC in appearance–Pascao and Razor, for example, are both clearly African-American to me, and Kaede is 100% Japanese. Day looks very hapa in my head. But I don’t want to dictate fancasts for anyone, especially for the characters who are more nebulous (June, Metias, Anden, etc). People of mixed race exist on a huge spectrum of appearance. I’m not saying that whitewashing isn’t an enormous Hollywood problem that I constantly rail against (don’t even get me started on Akira or Avatar: The Last Airbender), but sometimes…..it’s a tough call. Be kind and patient to others in the fandom, and know that it is absolutely okay to criticize me as the creator. Just because I’m an author of color doesn’t mean I always make the right decisions or envision the right people or say the right thing. I am as capable of making mistakes as a Caucasian author, and I’m glad when people call me out for it. I’m trying to grow with each book I write, and that includes the amount of care and thought I should be putting into each of my characters’ heritages and identities. I’m trying to do better each time.

I hope this is helpful! I don’t want to intrude too much into your conversations, guys–I want you guys to make the world your own, in the way that matters to you, and I want to keep building characters that resonate with you. Okay, signing out. Hugs. <3

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Published on October 25, 2015 11:45
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message 1: by Taylor (new)

Taylor Weston I definitely think Hailee Steinfeld fits June perfectly!


message 2: by Andre (new)

Andre You wrote about Hispanic descent, but as far as I am aware of "Hispanic" refers to culture and not how you look like. So when you wrote "Hispanic" what physical traits did you usually envision?


message 3: by Geneviève (last edited Oct 26, 2015 02:05AM) (new)

Geneviève Andre wrote: "You wrote about Hispanic descent, but as far as I am aware of "Hispanic" refers to culture and not how you look like. So when you wrote "Hispanic" what physical traits did you usually envision?"

i'm assuming she might mean that the iparis siblings have latinx blood in them?

personally, i've always imagined metias and june as east asian.


message 4: by Andre (new)

Andre Geneviève wrote: "i'm assuming she might mean that the iparis siblings have latinx blood in them?
..."


I knew that, but that is no answer either. "Latino" is the same as "Hispanic" in that it refers to culture but not what you look like. However alot of people in industrialized countries forget or are unaware of that. That is why I asked.


message 5: by Kayla (new)

Kayla Jones Are they making a movie or TV series?


message 6: by Andre (new)

Andre Kayla wrote: "Are they making a movie or TV series?"

There are plans for adapting the book for a movie:
Legend's film rights have been sold to CBS Films, with Twilight producers Wyck Godfrey and Marty Bowen to produce. On January 29th, 2013, MTV reported that Jonathan Levine, director of 50/50 dropped out of the film. Godfrey stated, "We have a fantastic script, and we had Jonathan Levine who directed 'Warm Bodies,' but because he had just done a YA book, he’s kinda like, 'I’ve got to do something different.' So we’re in the process of putting a director on 'Legend.' Whoever gets that is going to be excited because the world-building for that is a blast." They are currently looking for a new director. Newcomers Andrew Barrer and Gabe Ferrari have completed the script.

So, everything is still up in the air. I don't know which fancasting she refers to but if those of other franchises are anything to go by the old "but you chose Caucasians" can be pretty hypocritical (e.g. when complaining casting an english actor for a British/Chinese role but full blood Chinese or Japanese actors are ok...).


message 7: by Benjamin (new)

Benjamin I actually saw June (in my head) as blonde for the first book, and just stuck with it. So honestly, I really care not who portrays them. (Though Hailee Steinfeld would be cool.)

And as for Day. Well. I never really had a different view other than his description in the books.

So yeah. Opinion entered. =P


message 8: by Monique (last edited Nov 01, 2015 08:35PM) (new)

Monique V I imagined June to look a little like me because I am Hispanic, Asian and Italian but I really did not give it much thought because as Marie once said, in her world people don't care about the color, ethnicity and even sexual preferences that you may have. As for Day, there will never be a perfect Day in this world because they just isn't someone out there that could be like Day in my opinion, so if the movie really happens, I will not concentrate on how the actor looks but on how he portrays Day.


message 9: by Andre (last edited Nov 01, 2015 10:24PM) (new)

Andre Monique wrote: "I imagined June to look a little like me because I am Hispanic, Asian and Italian but I really did not give it much thought because as Marie once said, in her world people don't care about the colo..."

Just out of curiosity, what does "Hispanic, Asian and Italian" mean? Because you see, the most specific here is Italian and even then it can go from this:


to this:

And it can get even darker.
And Hispanic and Asian are incredibly broad, so what sort of features are you referring to?


message 10: by Monique (last edited Nov 01, 2015 10:31PM) (new)

Monique V Andre wrote: "Monique wrote: "I imagined June to look a little like me because I am Hispanic, Asian and Italian but I really did not give it much thought because as Marie once said, in her world people don't car..."
Well I can look Asian to some people and to others i look more on the Italian side because my skin has olive undertones even though I am pretty light. I have light brown eyesthat can change color with the sun and that just really makes me think of June fire some reason.


message 11: by Andre (last edited Nov 01, 2015 11:21PM) (new)

Andre Monique wrote: "Andre wrote: "Monique wrote: "I imagined June to look a little like me because I am Hispanic, Asian and Italian but I really did not give it much thought because as Marie once said, in her world pe..."

So when you say "Asian" you mean East-Asian?

Because mostly that term can be used for this guy:


as well as this one:


And where do these two look alike?

Also in regards to olive undertones... well in that case you could be considered a central European as well:




message 12: by Monique (new)

Monique V Andre wrote: "Monique wrote: "Andre wrote: "Monique wrote: "I imagined June to look a little like me because I am Hispanic, Asian and Italian but I really did not give it much thought because as Marie once said,..."



Yeah in the end i am so mixed I have could look like anything!! LOL
And Philippino is easy i mean by Asian


message 13: by Andre (new)

Andre Monique wrote: "Yeah in the end i am so mixed I have could look like anything!! LOL
And Philippino is easy i mean by Asian ..."


So its Philipino. I was curious because sometimes such assignments are beyond ridiculous and then it seems to me as if the one-drop rule is alive and well and as if people say stuff like "Asians look all different even white but white people all look the same" you know as if there are no white people with high cheekbones, olive skintones or epicanthic folds.
And of course there is the problem with using "Hispanic" as referring to physical features even though it refers to culture. And when used to refer to features it seems to me as if it mostly refers to Southern European and Mestizo stereotypes.


message 14: by Monique (new)

Monique V Andre wrote: "Monique wrote: "Yeah in the end i am so mixed I have could look like anything!! LOL
And Philippino is easy i mean by Asian ..."

So its Philipino. I was curious because sometimes such assignments a..."


I understand you. There's are so many people that just don't fit into the studio typical version of their ethnicity and I love that because it just shows us how diverse the world is and that in the end we are all equal


message 15: by Andre (last edited Nov 01, 2015 11:48PM) (new)

Andre Monique wrote: "I understand you. There's are so many people that just don't fit into the studio typical version of their ethnicity and I love that because it just shows us how diverse the world is and that in the end we are all equal
..."


I know, it just seems that quite often use this fact to basically reinforce their own notions of racial purity, like this one guy who complained to me when I said he was white because you could have dropped him anywhere in Europe and he would be able to blend in. Which really shouldn't have been a surprise since the majority of his ancestry was Western European with just a tiny bit of Japanese. But nope he was "mixed"... well by that logic so am I since I probably have some Hun or Mongol ancestry like alot of Europeans have due to good old conquest. After all, where do you draw the line.

Albeit to get back to this topic here, at least here the author did some actual effort to get it right in some other cases... well lets say it this way: No wonder people got stuff wrong when the author cannot even keep hair color and skin tone consistent.


message 16: by Monique (new)

Monique V Andre wrote: "Monique wrote: "I understand you. There's are so many people that just don't fit into the studio typical version of their ethnicity and I love that because it just shows us how diverse the world is..."

Yeah hard to find someone with blond hair and Mongolian features


message 17: by Andre (new)

Andre Monique wrote: "Yeah hard to find someone with blond hair and Mongolian features ..."

Really? ^^











message 18: by Monique (new)

Monique V Andre wrote: "Monique wrote: "Yeah hard to find someone with blond hair and Mongolian features ..."

Really? ^^
"


In the U.S


message 19: by Andre (new)

Andre Monique wrote: "In the U.S"

You´re sure?
Annabelle and her friend the spider :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTYMS...


message 20: by Kayla (new)

Kayla Jones Andre wrote: "Kayla wrote: "Are they making a movie or TV series?"

There are plans for adapting the book for a movie:
Legend's film rights have been sold to CBS Films, with Twilight producers Wyck Godfrey and M..."

thanks for telling me, and I hope they find a director!!! :)


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