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Jun 26, 2014 05:51AM
Wish they'd designed something that looked cooler....
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Give it time, the aesthetics can only get cooler once people stop thinking these are death machines :)
Apparently, we have something like 30-40,000 road fatalities every year in the U.S. alone, not to mention injuries and property damage, so the sooner that happens the better.
Yep, and there really is no reason why autodrive can't be a feature the same way cruise control is. There's all kinds of worry associated with whether or not robotic cars can adapt and do ad hoc things. But seriously, all you need is a switch.
Matthew wrote: "Yep, and there really is no reason why autodrive can't be a feature the same way cruise control is. There's all kinds of worry associated with whether or not robotic cars can adapt and do ad hoc th..."The fear is pretty ridiculous. We are such control freaks! And we don't want to give up our "road rage". Something else in control means more defensive and conscientious driving, and we like to drive aggressively (even though it is -less- efficient). The fear of injury is just an (poor) excuse not to give up our control.
At the very least, a robot car will free up both hands for "saluting" other vehicles....I suspect if most people realized how much of the pilots' job is being done by the airplanes themselves (including take off and landing) then they might be more accepting. On the other hand, that might just be too rational. Something to think about.
Gary wrote: "At the very least, a robot car will free up both hands for "saluting" other vehicles....I suspect if most people realized how much of the pilots' job is being done by the airplanes themselves (in..."
I agree though, so far its a total dorkmobile. If HD can come up with a decent looking electric motorcycle, there's no excuse for this looking like a dweebuggy. But, I don't drive at all, so I'm not part of this technology's demographic. My bicycle isn't gonna ride itself :)
Matthew wrote: "I am just about to do an article about that very thing, Leslie. Psychic! :)"They don't call me Leslie Professor X Lynch for nuthin! ;)
The only thing I'd be worried about with a Google car is the data-related ramifications. I'm actually looking forward to having fewer idiot drivers on the road.
Bryan wrote: "The only thing I'd be worried about with a Google car is the data-related ramifications. I'm actually looking forward to having fewer idiot drivers on the road."data-related ramifications? like you say "take me to cincinnati" and you end up in detroit? or you're reading and the car breaks and you spill your coffee on your magazine?
Yeah, I'm going to need some clarification on that point too. I'm assuming it means that so much data in the system could result in a total clusterf**k when it comes to directions.
No, I mean the fact that Google is a corporation that makes its money from data, and you'd essentially be giving them data on all of your day-to-day travel, which they would then sell to whatever company is best situated to advertise to you. That sort of thing.
Bryan wrote: "No, I mean the fact that Google is a corporation that makes its money from data, and you'd essentially be giving them data on all of your day-to-day travel, which they would then sell to whatever c..."So no latte? ;)
If it could drive me around AND make me coffee then I'd buy one, privacy concerns be damned (assuming I could afford it, which is unlikely).
Bryan wrote: "If it could drive me around AND make me coffee then I'd buy one, privacy concerns be damned (assuming I could afford it, which is unlikely)."Count me in on some of that fine action!
Bryan wrote: "No, I mean the fact that Google is a corporation that makes its money from data, and you'd essentially be giving them data on all of your day-to-day travel, which they would then sell to whatever c..."I knew it! Or at least, I suspected that. Yes, they are a data-driven group and every move they make into the field of AI, robotics, self-driving cars, space travel, mass transit, electronic and flying cars is seen as a possible move to secure more of our personal data for their purposes. One thing I will say... Elon Musk is a true believer in making things happen. So whatever else he's got going on and however he made his bones, he's willing to spend the big bucks to make innovation happen no matter what.
Uhh...I think we're talking about different things. I thought Elon Musk was the dude from Tesla Motors.
I suspect the collection of our travel data is going to be just as pervasive as our Internet behavior. Consider that it's already pretty much transparent given the way cell phones are tracked. Monitoring by the vehicle we travel in is most likely little more than support for that existing data. Those who want to track us are going to have that ability unless we take particular steps to avoid or defeat their systems.So, your job will be able to monitor your location, your family will know where you've been, and should some government peon with a fetish for spying get into a position of relatively minor authority, he'll be able to find out how often you go to Denny's for a Superbird.
The closest we can really get to anonymity these days is what I like to call "the veil of obscurity." It's not that our data isn't out there, it's that we are not significant enough for it to be plucked out of the cloud and examined individually. Of course, if one does something that draws the attention of anyone with access to the data stream then that veil can be lifted as easily as a bride's on her wedding day... but data protection does exist as a herd phenomenon.
Cold comfort, I know, but that looks to be where we're at.
Bryan wrote: "Uhh...I think we're talking about different things. I thought Elon Musk was the dude from Tesla Motors."He is, as well as SpaceX and a slew of other start ups that Google owns. The man is all over the map when it comes to innovation and is extremely dedicated to making things happen.
Gary wrote: "I suspect the collection of our travel data is going to be just as pervasive as our Internet behavior. Consider that it's already pretty much transparent given the way cell phones are tracked. Mo..."Speaking of which, Gary, the Supreme Court just made a ruling that makes its illegal to use cell phone data to track movements. Not for private companies, mind you, but certainly for law enforcement and government. It was one of two landmark rulings lately that's putting the nails in the coffin of warrantless surveillance, and I did post about them somewhere here...
Matthew wrote: "Speaking of which, Gary, the Supreme Court just made a ruling that makes its illegal to use cell phone data to track movements. Not for private companies, mind you, but certainly for law enforcement and government. It was one of two landmark rulings lately that's outing the nails in the coffin of warrant less surveillance, and I did post about them somewhere here..."Thanks, I'll poke around for it.
Leslie wrote: "I don't even have a cell phone. Catch me if you can! :D"
Me neither, truthfully. I've seen folks do some crazy stuff with those things, effectively turning them into listening devices.
So, now that the NSA is alerted to this conversation (my fault... I shouldn't have mentioned The Veil) we should all toss out our burners.
*waving to the NSA* Hi fellas!! (that was kinda sexist) My ex used to do the listening device thing. Creepy. It was the second thing to go (after the ex).






