Another fertilized-eggs-are-people attempt
This time in Virginia. Here's a petition against it with a special comment section for you to say what you really think about people who keep trying to commandeer our control over our bodies instead of dealing with the issue of jobs, of educating people so they can get jobs, of creating tax equality so the many aren't supporting the few who can pay more, of improving our air and water standards, and ensuring that our children and our old people have proper medical care.
Not that I have issues, or I'm fed up, or anything.
Not that I have issues, or I'm fed up, or anything.
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Feb 18, 2012 11:29AM
Oklahoma is also trying to pass a person hood bill. There are no words for how angry I am.
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We knew last year they'd be putting out a renewed push across the states, but it's one thing to know in advance, and another to have it pushed down our throats.
I'm in Oklahoma and we're going through the same thing. I am excited to see one of my favorite authors supporting this, it was a nice surprise today. I find it ridiculous that THIS is the topic of such energy. We're already failing enough children, why add to the problem?
Not to mention that those same people who hold ova so sacred are also in favor of the death penalty. So let me get this straight...life is sacred for how long? All these people need to read Neil Shusterman's Unwind to get the ridiculousness of this position.
Melliott wrote: "Not to mention that those same people who hold ova so sacred are also in favor of the death penalty. So let me get this straight...life is sacred for how long? All these people need to read Neil Sh..."I think UNWIND should be required reading in middle schools and state legislatures.
Melanie wrote: "I'm in Oklahoma and we're going through the same thing. I am excited to see one of my favorite authors supporting this, it was a nice surprise today. I find it ridiculous that THIS is the topic of ..."Because better we should try to own women's bodies than deal with subjects like taxation and regulation that would make our corporate greedhead over-rich masters mad at us.
Or that could just be me.
"A person's a person no matter how small."~ Dr. Seuss
Abortion is murder. I'm sad that one of my favorite authors is "pro-choice."
Bridgette wrote: ""A person's a person no matter how small."~ Dr. Seuss
Abortion is murder. I'm sad that one of my favorite authors is "pro-choice.""
My being pro-choice means that everyone gets to follow her own beliefs. In this case, we are all held responsible for this choice, and must choose what we can live with.
I'm all for people following their own beliefs, but when do the dead babies get to partake in this freedom?
Fœtuses aren't babies, Bridgette. Not until they're biologically capable of survival outside the body of the mother, at least. Also, it's a bit rude to try anti-choice rhetoric on someone who has already let you know what they believe and isn't asking to get into such a discussion.
I understand, but they're still human and deserve a life as much as you or I do.
Fair enough that that's what you believe, but you don't have the right to try to emotionally blackmail people into sharing your beliefs by using loaded phrases such as the one you used, okay? Do you get that? Because that's what's rude.(Also, if we're really going to get into that side of things, there is the major point that there are enough actual unwanted children in the world who need homes without creating more. The majority of anti-choice people I know don't support children after birth nearly as much as they ought if being ethically consistent, and that's not only sad but reprehensible.)
Bridgette wrote: "I understand, but they're still human and deserve a life as much as you or I do."Since it's plain we won't agree, would you please let this go?
Kelly wrote: "And I'd just like to point out that Pro-Choice is not the same as pro-abortion. choice is being able to make a decision which abides by your own morals, however strict they may or may not be)"Exactomundo!!!!!!!
I like the idea of making Unwind required reading."
This would make me very happy, actually.
Kelly wrote: "And I'd just like to point out that Pro-Choice is not the same as pro-abortion. choice is being able to make a decision which abides by your own morals, however strict they may or may not be"This is so true.
Ridiculous. They had an anti abortion rally here at my university a couple of days ago. I love when people try to shove their beliefs down my throat :)What I can't understand or wrap my head around, is why ANY woman regardless of whether they agree with the PERSONAL choice to have an abortion, would be okay with the government having control over what they do with their body. its so very archaic.
Ill tell you right now if men could get pregnant this would be a non-issue.
"My being pro-choice means that everyone gets to follow her own beliefs."That's fine, as long as you don't hurt somebody else. The problem is that abortion kills another human being. Contrary to popular belief, pro-lifers don't care what you do with your own body. We only start protesting when you want to hurt other human beings (ie, abortion). When a woman is pregnant, the baby is not a part of her body, but a separate human being residing in her womb.
"Not to mention that those same people who hold ova so sacred are also in favor of the death penalty"
You might want to brush up on your biology. An ovum is a haploid gamete. A new human being does not come into existence until after fertilization, as a zygote (not an egg).
By the way, I'm a pro-lifer who opposes the death penalty.
"I understand, but they're still human and deserve a life as much as you or I do."
Very true.
