"Penric's Demon" is a Hugo nominee
In the novella category.
The Hugos will be awarded this summer at the 74th World Science Fiction Convention, MidAmeriCon II, in Kansas City.
http://midamericon2.org/
(As a point of information, "Penric's Demon" was conscripted onto the "Rabid Puppies" slate without my notification or permission, and my request that it be removed was refused.)
Ta, L.
The Hugos will be awarded this summer at the 74th World Science Fiction Convention, MidAmeriCon II, in Kansas City.
http://midamericon2.org/
(As a point of information, "Penric's Demon" was conscripted onto the "Rabid Puppies" slate without my notification or permission, and my request that it be removed was refused.)
Ta, L.
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If it helps, I didn't even know it got slated, and I nominated it all on my lonesome. It's a good story!
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This article may be of interest, if you haven't come across it yet, on the "slate" issue: http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketco...I can't say I nominated it, but I did read it and loved it, and have no doubt Penric's Demon absolutely should and would be there without the slate business.
Congratulations!
I also nominated it, not knowing or caring it was on the Puppy slate. Best of luck and I pray you don't get caught in an anti-RP backlash.
It's absolutely deserving, and congratulations! We can only hope the awards go back to what they have been in the past: not unduly influenced by authors, politics, or factions.
Kevin wrote: "It's absolutely deserving, and congratulations! We can only hope the awards go back to what they have been in the past: not unduly influenced by authors, politics, or factions."Thank you. And, amen.
I see that Brandon Sanderson, who is in the same boat (and category) as I am, came to some of the same conclusions about his response.
http://brandonsanderson.com/hugo-awar...
*nod* I liked the Scalzi line from http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketco... -- "The Puppies are running in front of an existing parade and claiming to lead it."
Congratulations! I was just re-reading it last night. I love Penric and Desdemona! While I approved of the No Award movement last year, I'm not going to let a group keep me from voting for the works I feel are the best.PS further adventures soon?
Dana wrote: "Congratulations! I was just re-reading it last night. I love Penric and Desdemona! While I approved of the No Award movement last year, I'm not going to let a group keep me from voting for the work..."Not sure about further adventures yet. Pen and Des certainly have potential. I came up with Pen because I fancied writing about a really powerful sorcerer, and then thought my way back to his origin-story, which, as always, surprised me in the writing. Right now they are a sort of electron-cloud of story possibilities, all quantum uncertainties.
Ta, L.
Elizabeth wrote: "If it helps, I didn't even know it got slated, and I nominated it all on my lonesome. It's a good story!"Same here.
was there a reason given why it was refused? I am so tired of the childish puppy snits
Estara wrote: "Elizabeth wrote: "If it helps, I didn't even know it got slated, and I nominated it all on my lonesome. It's a good story!"Same here."
Yes, part of why I decided to let the story's nomination stand was the probability that in a vandalism-free year, it would have arrived anyway. But mostly because as a writer, I don't think administering or deciding awards should be my job. Let the fans decide what to do, rather than unilaterally preempting their choices.
My preference, in any awards process a work of mine is in, is to say as little as possible about it till it's over. This year has required a bit more, unfortunately.
That said, I am not suffering from a Hugo shortage. Newer writers have more at stake, here. Those who have been unwillingly slated or who have been pushed off the ballot altogether by the bogus Rabid nominations have been most hurt, I think, but we won't find out who the latter were till the raw data is released after the awards ceremony in August. Part of the purpose of the SF awards is to showcase new talent, a process from which I benefited a quarter-century ago. Whatever happens in August, my semi-retirement will survive much the same.
(Although I shall quite like having a new tie tack to fit on my necklace. Somewhere...)
Ta, L.
Lois, How would a Vorkosigan deal with the Puppies?
Tyler wrote: "Lois, How would a Vorkosigan deal with the Puppies?"See "my preference", above.
Ta, L.
Rose wrote: "was there a reason given why it was refused? I am so tired of the childish puppy snits"Our exchange was brief and factual.
Ta, L.
Glad you aren't withdrawing due to the Puppy-crap. As Scalzi said, this year VD wants to run in front and then claim to be leading the parade! And I'm not going to give Hugo votes to Mr. Noah Ward just because that's what VD wants; I nominated at least half a dozen things in multiple categories without knowing that they were also on Puppy-slates (e.g.: "The Martian", your novella, "Folding Beijing", and "Daily S.F."), and I plan to vote for them. I'm also FURIOUS that VD's pissing all over the nominations kept works like "Cat Pictures, Please" and David Levine's utterly excellent "Damage" off the Short Story ballot, and unless something there REALLY surprises me when I read my Hugo Voter's packet, Noah's got my vote in that category. GRRR.
I had planned on nominating your story. I saw it was on RP slate and was glad that RP and his ilk liked it also. They are fans though many seemed to think they are not .Writers who refuse are foolish. It is their story, not RP that is nominated We have to refuse this idea that any one is guilty just because someone who is disliked also liked the story.
I did vote for your story Lois and plan to vote for the HUGO when the time comes.
Your last novel I liked but not as much as your previous works so I did not plan on nominating that work.
I really did like Penric's Demon so that had been on my list for months.
I also nominated it, unaware of the Puppies' slate. Last year I attempted to read every nomination. If I couldn't finish it it went below no award. I intend to do the same thing this year.
Lois wrote: Yes, part of why I decided to let the story's nomination stand was the probability that in a vandalism-free year, it would have arrived anyway. But mostly because as a writer, I don't think administering or deciding awards should be my job. Let the fans decide what to do, rather than unilaterally preempting their choices.Lois, thanks for explaining why you chose to leave Penric's Demon on the ballot after the RPs refused to take you off their slate. It's unfortunately a deliberate part of their plan to slate popular works by authors they consider "SJWs," and therefore their enemies. They have said explicitly that the purpose is to put you (collectively) in a double bind. Either you withdraw from the ballot to get away from them, in which case a work which would have doubtless been nominated anyway is prevented from a chance it rightfully earned without them; or you stay on the ballot and they get to publicize how the SJWs are greedy, self-centered and hypocritical for accepting the RPs' "help" to gain an award, even while purporting to disdain the RPs.
I don't think this is likely to cause you any difficulty -- your fans know better about you; whatever the Puppies try to say is likely to be either ignored or laughed at. But I have heard people claim that the Puppies are being "better" this year for having slated some less-hateful works, so I wanted to let people know why they are doing it. It's not any better-behaved than they ever have been. If anything, it's worse... they've expanded from trying to ruin the Hugos to trying to ruin the reputations of authors they disapprove of, by trapping those authors into a forced association with themselves and making them chew off their nominations in order to get free.
So...you are saying that Penric's Demon is not worthy of a Hugo award? Then why should I waste my time reading it? Off my reading list it does go.
Will you be coming to MidAmericaCon, then? To accept your Hugo? (Please say YES!)
Harmon wrote: "So...you are saying that Penric's Demon is not worthy of a Hugo award? Then why should I waste my time reading it? Off my reading list it does go."Where exactly did you see that said? I'm confused.
Naomi G Rivkis wrote: "Harmon wrote: "So...you are saying that Penric's Demon is not worthy of a Hugo award? Then why should I waste my time reading it? Off my reading list it does go."Where exactly did you see that sa..."
I have a persuasive explanation - I got things backwards... :(
(Back on my reading list, thanks to you!)
Naomi G Rivkis wrote: "It's unfortunately a deliberate part of their plan to slate popular works by authors they consider "SJWs," and therefore their enemies. They have said explicitly that the purpose is to put you (collectively) in a double bind."Who said that? I can imagine Vox Day (Rabid Puppies) but not Sarah Hoyt (Sad Puppies). And it's a mistake to conflate the two. The SPs want to reform the system (with reason, even if you don't agree with the reasons). The RPs want to burn it down.
