Muhammad Rasheed's Blog, page 213

The Experts Speak: Reactions to Mayweather vs Pacquiao

Max Kellerman
Dana White

Roy Jones, Jr.

Andre Ward

Bernard Hopkins

Mike Tyson

Johnny Nelson

Paulie Malignaggi

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Glenn Brewer - if i was a fighter, winning would be my primary objective, not entertaining the crowd. there are a lot of "warriors" out there who "who put on a show for the crowd" and "left it all in the ring" but can barely speak right now. if you get time check out the feature hob did on the fight between meldreic taylor and julio cesar chavez…

Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Meldrick Taylor - HBO - Legendary Nights - Documentary - Pt. 1

I think most people, even his detractors, agree that floyd one the fight. most even think that if he could win without taking risks, he should have. it's the smart thing to do.

but even though being exciting isn't the most important thing, it still is important. the charges of money "running" are just not true. good foot work is good footwork. but folks are tired all the hitting and holding and throwing one punch at a time. the bottom line is that floyd has gotten much more cautious over the years and folks are just not as entertained. and if folks aren't entertained, revenue drops. floyd repeatedly said he didn't need pac but i think he did. floyd's last two fights didn't even get 1 million buys. les moonves paid floyd a lot of money for that showtime deal and wanted a return on his investment. no one cared about money fighting anyone other than pac.

Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) The excitement came from the people who insisted Manny had all the tools and will to defeat Floyd finally getting the chance to see it happen. The energy of the hype build-up all the up to the first bell was the excitement. They're just pissed that their guy didn't take more risks to make it happen. When they say "it wasn't exciting" they mean "the guy I was rooting for didn't win." That's the excitement that made this the highest grossest boxing match of all time, the excitement of the drama surrounding it.

2.) The suggestion that the undefeated world champion should deliberately fight down to his opponent's level so that the lesser fighter will have a better chance at winning is an opinion I'd expect to come from a racist's mouth when trying to convince a dominant black champion to let the Great White Hope win "for the fans." It's not worth entertaining even for an instant. It was Manny's job to make it happen, not Floyd's job to coddle his sensitive enemies' feelings. Anyone at all who truly believes that the boxer should stop boxing and stand toe-to-toe and slug with his rival, is expressing an opinion that isn't worthy of respect.

3.) I agree that since the entire world thought that Manny was the Chosen One that could finally defeat Floyd, he needed to fight him to cement his legacy. But it was the Manny fans that made it so, not boxing itself. Floyd had a guaranteed $200 million payout from his 6-fight Showtime/CBS deal, so technically he DIDN'T need Manny. But part of that deal was that he could make well over that $200 million from the pay-per-view sales and the stadium ticket gate according to quality of opponent. Thanks to the over-zealous Manny true believers super-hype, they delivered such an opponent on a silver platter.

Glenn Brewer - "1.) The excitement came from the people who insisted many had all the tools and will to defeat Floyd finally getting the chance to see it happen. The energy of the hype build-up all the up to the first bell was the excitement. They're just pissed that their guy didn't take more risks to make it happen. When they say ‘it wasn't exciting’ they mean ‘the guy I was rooting for didn't win.’ That's the excitement that made this the highest grossest boxing match of all time, the excitement of the drama surrounding it."

nah, there have been rumblings of him being boring for a while. whether or not it's true is it subjective. but folks have been feeling this way for a while. i've heard mayweahter supporters saying the were done after the second maidana fight...

"2.) The suggestion that the undefeated world champion should deliberately fight down to his opponent's level so that the lesser fighter will have a better chance at winning is an opinion I'd expect to come from a racist's mouth when trying to convince a dominant black champion to let the Great White Hope win "for the fans."

surely this isn't a response to something i wrote in this thread???????

"It was Manny's job to make it happen, not Floyd's job to coddle his sensitive enemies' feelings. Anyone at all who truly believes that the boxer should stop boxing and stand toe-to-toe and slug with his rival, is expressing an opinion that isn't worthy of respect. "

beat that strawman to death!!! here's some theme music..

DJay (Terrence Howard) - Whoop That Trick

i never said that. i think floyd did exactly what he was supposed to do. my point is that folks are less inclined to pay for it. and the only reason this fight did damn near 5 million in pay per view was because he was fighting pac. i'd bet money vs khan wouldn't even have hit a million.

"i agree that since the entire world thought that Manny was the Chosen One that could finally defeat Floyd, he needed to fight him to cement his legacy."

i never said this.

"Floyd had a guaranteed $200 million payout from his 6-fight Showtime/CBS deal, so technically he DIDN'T need Manny. "

yeah, floyd had the money but folks weren't happy. if they couldn't stick it to money, somebody was going to pay. all hayman is floyd's right hand man...

“CBS CEO Les Moonves has given Showtime boxing head Stephen Espinoza the ultimatum to deliver Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao… Or else,” Malinowski stated in his article at ringobserver.com. “If he can’t deliver Floyd, Espinoza will be out of a job. And Haymon will also be out because the new boxing boss will not work with Haymon beyond the final two contracted Mayweather fights. So Haymon, already banned from HBO, will in effect be banned at Showtime."

Todd Holland - A LOT of people put all their eggs in Manny's basket to put this "Uppity" Negro in his place,and that bucket got run over by a semi truck,so NOW,the fight was boring,not entertaining,Manny was REALLY hurt,and every OTHER excuse in the book.....I can't WAIT for Floyd to get these suckers for another $100 for the inevitable rematch....

Glenn Brewer - "A LOT of people put all their eggs in Manny's basket to put this ‘Uppity’ Negro in his place..."

a lot of folks hate this dude. he's black, skilled, business savoy and independent. he'll never really come out and admit it but i think bob arum hates him most. black fighters are not supposed to think for themselves and run there own companies.

Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) Of course whether one person feels a fighter's style is boring or not is subjective. On many levels. People who are actual students of boxing recognize that "styles make fights," and among them they have their opinions as to which style they personally like best. The layperson who is not a student of the sport/discipline, but gets all of his understanding of what he thinks it's about from Hollywood, also has a subjective opinion, but it is weak and based on ignorance. That type of opinion makes up about 99% of the folk that rooted for Manny during this fight, and why I have such contempt for people that say "running & hugging" describing Floyd's strategy. Ignorance is not a virtue, and it is never worthy of respect no matter how passionate it is.

2.) The only reasons why "folks weren't happy" is because their guy lost, and they didn't understand what they were watching because they didn't know the game.

3.) You did say you thought that Floyd needed Manny. I gave my opinion as to why he did need him for his career.

4.) Do you think that was a strawman? People who say that the fight was boring and blame it on Floyd aren't suggesting that Floyd stop boxing and start slugging toe-to-toe? If not, then what ARE they talking about, Glenn?

5.) Haymon being Floyd's "right hand man" had nothing to do with Manny's inability to penetrate Floyd's defense and make it happen for his fans inside of the squared circle.

Glenn Brewer - @Muhammad Rasheed… i've know you for a while via bsh.com and we've had pretty cool discussions. we've talked mma and a little boxing and though we've disagreed, i've always felt like it was two guys talking about sports that they really liked. i could go back and forth with you all day brah, but if this is how you really feel...

"I have such contempt for people that say "running & hugging" describing Floyd's strategy"

...i going to go ahead and check out of this one.

Muhammad Rasheed - Do you feel he was "running & hugging?"

Muhammad Rasheed - I certainly hope not, because that's what people say when they have no idea what they are talking about. If we've talked about boxing/MMA before then that means you should know better, right?

The Cure for Integration

Muhammad Rasheed - I wish I WOULD side with my ideological enemy in vilifying a successful Black American.  Why would I do that?  Can’t you see that is treachery?  Why would I ape/parrot that behavior in my enemy to attack and tear down one of my own?  HE hates and resents him, so I must hate and resent him, too, right?  “Wha'sa’matta, massa?  WE sick?”   How does it profit me to join my enemy in hating my own people? 
My enemy will quickly downplay a Black American’s accomplishments and throw his weaknesses in his face; angry and resentful that he has proven dominant in this field where only the strongest and smartest thrive.  Meanwhile he will downplay the great international atrocities and horrendous body counts he himself has amassed while pretending his race are the good guys in the human experience, and are magically more righteous than you because he said so.   He covers over his own peoples’ faults, particularly when comparing them to yours, and even glorifies and celebrates his criminals and organized crime organizations.  They stick together through their feuds and conflicts and make sure they boost themselves up over all others.  At its most insane extreme, he even thinks he represents the penultimate in human evolution.  He will NEVER side with you over himself.  It’s the secret to his success, that through all of his own internal dysfunction, he will absolutely come together over you.  Link arms to keep you out.  Arm himself against you.  Convince himself that there is no worse terror on earth than a member of the Black Race. 
If I’m going to ape and parrot his behavior, why wouldn’t I seek to duplicate his penchant for protecting himself and his own people?  Why would I instead join him in his fight against me?  “You’re right, Boss.  Fuck that arrogant nigga.”  Why would you do that?  What does that serve?   Did you forget the socio-political clime we live in?  Hm?  You KNOW he doesn’t give a flying FUCK about you.  He would as soon shoot your children dead as help them.  In an authority position he will gleefully brainwash them with some foul bullshit designed to destroy their spirit and self-esteem based on what he has convinced himself about you.  He does not have a problem hanging you from a tree.  He really doesn’t.  No generation of American citizens – black or white – have undergone any kind of therapy or counseling to debrief us from the savagery of America’s shameful past history.  Do you recognize that?  Do you see what that means?  It means that the terrible psychological damage inflicted upon our ancestors never stopped being passed down through the generations.  Do you doubt this?  After all these years, in 2015, we’re still failing that damn Doll Test.  We’re fucked up.  Still.  And if WE’RE fucked up, HE’S definitely fucked up.  He hasn’t changed either, that’s why he doesn’t even blink when he shoots your sleeping babies in the head.  Did you forget that he convinced himself that you weren’t even a human being to justify keeping you chained to a post down in slave row?  This motherfucker is not your role model for how to treat a Black person!!!
He’s not going to help you.  He can’t.  He’s just as damaged, he only pretends he’s not.  Pretends he doesn’t see race.   When he looks at you he wipes the same fucking drool from his mouth that fell when watching you greedily from the deck of those stinking ships so long ago.  It took many centuries to finally free you from his chains.  You know he didn’t want to let you go.    In the ten years immediately afterwards, during Reconstruction, he actually got MAD AT YOU for daring to be successful.  Educating yourself, entering politics, setting yourself up to enjoy the full fruits of what this country you helped build had to offer.  This made him furious!!!  He promptly took it from you, and pressed his knee onto the back of your neck, creating a new place to put you in.  To confine you to. 
And he called you “lazy.” 
All of you.  Lazy.  As a stereotype.  He said you all are lazy.  But you are NOT lazy, and even under these new chains, you rose up from the ashes of that defeat to achieve economic success, and he got mad at you yet again and burned it to the ground. 
And then again.
And again.
And again. 
And again.  
And again.
And again.
And again.
All the time calling you 'lazy.'  In anger, hatred, resentment, and fear, he made up a story and destroyed all of your hard work, and called you a “lazy nigger” while he did it, and he’s been doing that psychotic shit since he fucking brought you here!  But with the whole world watching, they were shamed into eventually releasing those chains, too.  The Civil Rights Act was passed, and it was now illegal to treat you like shit in the way he had grown used to. 
But what did that mean? 
It meant that the next time you came together… with the whole world watching… he couldn’t just burn all of your stuff down again, right?  Simply proclaiming you were lazy hasn’t worked in all these centuries, so what would keep you from rising to the very top if he stopped sabotaging you every fucking time?  Nothing.  And he fears this.  He always has.  Mightily.  Every time he strikes you down, he creates a new karmic debt, and he believes that eventually that bill is going to come due, and he won’t have the goods to pay it off (doesn’t stop him from doing it though).  He’s genuinely afraid that he will have to eat the payback of all he’s done to you, so of course he can’t have that.  A new strategy was needed.
After the Civil Rights Act was passed, during the effort to fight for desegregation, somehow, mysteriously, that train detoured into a fight for the nonsensical “integration,” and it destroyed you.  You live that destruction now.  Your greatest strength, that enabled you to phoenix-like rise from the ashes of racist savagery and chaos to produce an economically successful community over and over again, was taken from you.   The poison of “integration” separated the Black American middle class from the poor lower classes, leaving the poor defenseless.  The middle class abandoned their own community to attempt to become “brown-faced whites” in his country.  In his heart of hearts he absolutely did NOT want this, but the alternative was to have you use your talents and energies for yourself and risk you rising up greater than he, where your power could potentially become the threat he feared most.  So he tolerated you, helped direct your energies towards making his forces greater.  He slaughtered your leaders during the Assassination Era so they wouldn’t bring you together into an unwanted competitive force on the nation’s stage.   He found that blunt and sociopathic tactic to be a mistake because it called forth a ferocious defensive militancy from your youth of the time period, and he didn’t want that.  You were much more useful using your talents to enrich him than to slaughter you outright.  So your next leaders that came forth, instead of killing them physically, he sought to discredit, to smear, to taint in your mind with a relentless marketing campaign of defamation. 
Everyone does something wrong.  We are humans.  The flesh is weak by its nature, and we often give in to temptation.  But somehow when your weaknesses become known, they are THE WORST DEMONSTRATION OF WEAKNESSES IN THE UNIVERSE.  And you believe him.  Him.  Who has nothing for you, and even today will kill you casually.  Death by white cop is today’s version of hanging you from that tree.   But you side with him in vilifying your own, a demonstration of your own dysfunction.  An award-winning Black American at the top of his game fights on the world stage and it disgusts him.  Just like an unpopular previous Black American champion who got close to a certain someone’s celebrated professional record, this one closes in on it too, and he HATES IT.  It burns him up.  Were we the only nation in the history of the sport where its citizens didn’t root for their own champion to retain his titles?  And you helped.
Yes, Floyd has well-documented weaknesses that he’s working on.  So what?  That’s for him and his family to work on.  Why aren’t you celebrating a Black American’s accomplishments?  Let him know you disagree with his weaknesses if you must, and ask him to make sure he gets help, and then celebrate his victories as a member of your own.  Cover over his faults with love, and celebrate the victories of your brother.  The lack of this is why we suffer and is the fruit of the schemes of the enemy.  Celebrate the accomplishments of your brothers and sisters… HOLD THEM UP!!!!  …and cover other their faults.  Take care of your own. 
This is the only thing that matters. 
None of that other shit you bitch about matters in the least until you start taking care of each other again, re-forging your old strength anew so you can rise from the ashes of the enemy’s hate and evil once more.  Bitching about crap like word usage, semantics and fucking tv shows is a complete waste of time until you get your strength back.  Is whether we use the ‘n-word’ or not keeping you from regrowing your economic base?  FUCK NO!!!  Get yourself together, stop following along behind that crazy motherfucker that hates your guts, and take care of your own people.  Right NOW. 

”The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, protect each other, there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief.” ~The Holy Qur’an, Surah 8:73

"All Lives Matter" - The Truth Behind the Contemptuous Retort

Muhammad Rasheed - [shared meme]


Muhammad Rasheed - I'm going to assume that's a "yes" since it's also clueless & retarded (watch tril scold me for calling assholes 'retarded' ).
Marc Keelan-Bishop - Mentally disabled people matter too.
Just Ceakou - #goodone
John Kraft - I changed it to #soldierslivesmatter a couple of times but I think I like #alllivesmatter does sound better.
Just Ceakou - Black lives are under attack in epidemic proportions and we are only seeing a fraction of what police are doing to Black people (and of course Latinos). To change this is to show total disregard for the issue at hand and basically it's throwing a tantrum bc the attention isn't on your sect. 
MORE BLACK LIVES ARE ENDED - MURDERED - BRUTALIZED EACH WEEK THAN THEY WHERE DURING THE HEYDAY OF THE KLAN.
Let that sink in! 
Supporting our troops is a whole other cause. God Bless them.

Muhammad Rasheed -



John Kraft - Too bad it is primarily "blacks killing blacks" so the only ones that black lives don't matter too is other Blacks. In Baltimore most of the Police are black. Most of the citizens are black. The Mayor is black. The Democrats have been in charge. So it is obviously the Whites fault..
Muhammad Rasheed - John, please stop using that as a response. "Black-on-black" crime is no different than "white-on-white" crime, and with comparable percentages. Everyone has that criminal element that preys upon their own poor communities. Criminality isn't about race, it's about opportunity.
Just Ceakou - Okay, I see your mindset. *drop the mic*
John Kraft - Ok I agree there is more white on white on white crime than black on black crime but weapons and death are a far more likely outcome from other than white on white crime.
Muhammad Rasheed - I was specifically taking about white-on-white homicides.
John Kraft - OK white guys tend to plan out their Homicides better with a better success rate of not getting caught and if we get caught we generally put down the weapons and do not run so we do not get shot by police or others with guns. Many people I have thought deserve a late term abortion but decided it was not worth the risk or planning time necessary to pull it off safely.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol
Is your argument really, "White criminals are inherently more intelligent than black criminals because we plan out our evils better?"
Really, John? The logical response to this bullshit of yours traditionally gets the "playing the race card" charge leveled at me. 
I'll allow you the opportunity to reconsider that post.
John Kraft - I will let the comment stand but add more personal observation. I have been in the Military for over 20 years. Moved around many times and seen multiple different locations and groups that divide themselves from others in one way or another. Soldiers are divided by GT score, MOS, Race, Gender, Rank and Pride of uniform. Using the Race one light skinned soldiers tended to ignore the antics of other groups or leave the area while about 10% of the darker skinned soldiers tended to try be in the face or create confrontations to prove themselves. I always made sure to be friendly with soldiers of all groups to protect myself from that 10% of Blacks. Some people just love causing confrontations. Me in some areas too.
John Kraft - The point I am proving is that there is always some willing to argue right or wrong about any topic. Personally I do not care about race but do judge people by attitude. I do make snap judgements about people by the way they dress and am offended by tattoos and visible piercings. I do not judge people by what they can not change.
Andre Owens - Nice to see a bigot admit their prejudice John. And you're welcome for your 20 year paycheck from the taxpayers.
John Kraft - I am a Bigot against stupid people and the uneducated ones who choose not to learn or care. Must be why we are not friends. Thanks to Obama I do not get Welfare or Snap or Medicaid so where where is this paycheck I am to get? I will have to work till I die to pay for freeloaders like you unless you are supporting yourself with your drawings. If you found a job that pays your bills more power too you.
Muhammad Rasheed - John Kraft wrote: “Must be why we are not friends. Thanks to Obama I do not get Welfare or Snap or Medicaid…”
Explain to us how that would be the president’s fault, please. 
John Kraft wrote: “I will have to work till I die to pay for freeloaders like you unless you are supporting yourself with your drawings.”
I’m curious as to whether you automatically assume other white people are “freeloaders like you,” or if you only automatically think that way about black people. There are far more whites on welfare than there are blacks, and that include the poor white communities as well as free gov subsidies to mega-corporations. Tell me, John, if when you look at a random white person, you think “freeloader like you” as one of your first Rorschach mental correlations the way you just did Andre, who you don’t know from Adam. 
And remember, this is for posterity so be honest.
John Kraft - Actually it is the Government in general that is to blame. I have never applied for food stamps or unemployment so I am not subsidized by any group. Of course there are more whites on welfare there are more of them in America. I automatically figure all Democrats are Freeloaders. I also commented after checking his profile that if he supports himself through his drawings good for him.
Muhammad Rasheed - *puts hand out to inspect rifle*
Muhammad Rasheed - John Kraft wrote: "I automatically figure all Democrats are Freeloaders."
Partisan nonsense just like that is the reason why we are broken socio-politically. Of the huge welfare pie, mega-corporation for-profit institutions, with GOP conservatives at the helm, get by far the biggest piece of it in free gov subsidies.
Muhammad Rasheed - Their companies are profitable, yet they talk their political buddies into giving them free money. THAT is the bulk of the welfare problem, with the programs for the poor being a tiny sliver of it, yet that partisan nonsense has brainwashed you into thinking the poor are the problem with the world, and you link it to race.
THAT'S why we're broken.
John Kraft - Why are American poor so much richer than the poor of any other country if it is so bad for them.
Muhammad Rasheed - Why do you believe comparing the quality of life of the poor around the globe relevant to this topic? This sounds like it's coming out of your "go back to Africa if you don't like it when we treat you like fucking shit" racism kit.
Muhammad Rasheed - "You're better off than the poor people in other countries, so shut it" sounds like it might have a communism undercurrent...
Muhammad Rasheed - ...or maybe it's coming from that bullshit "welfare queen" shit Reagan pulled out of his ass? That's it, isn't it?
That concept is a myth. Let it go and focus on curing the country of your own peoples' perpetual wrongs. Everything we're dealing with comes directly from the bullshit your folk inflicted on us. Do you think the "liberal policies that don't work" narrative would even be relevant today if your people hadn't made a habit out of burning down our successful communities throughout American history since Reconstruction?
Do a better job of turning your critical eye inward where the root cause of all of our bullshit actually lies, please.
Muhammad Rasheed - John Kraft wrote: "I have never applied for food stamps or unemployment so I am not subsidized by any group."
There are also blacks who feel the same way about it and enjoy economic successes in black middle class and upper class communities, as they always have, even in freemen communities during slavery. So tell me why white people are so comfortable calling me lazy and associating all blacks with the poor lower classes? You know that the bulk of the American populace is composed of rural whites living below the poverty line, yet you keep assigning that poor shit to me like it is inherent to my very being. 
Racism is a brainwashed indoctrination of unreasonable beliefs, adverse to logic and facts, John. Let it go.
John Kraft - I notice you never commented on the video I linked you too either pro or con. So do you think we expect too little of American Blacks and that is why the news always portrays them misbehaving and claiming it is the whites fault for not being better role models?
Muhammad Rasheed - John Kraft wrote: "I notice you never commented on the video I linked you too either pro or con."
What video? I have no memory of it.
John Kraft wrote: "So do you think we expect too little of American Blacks and that is why the news always portrays them misbehaving and claiming it is the whites fault for not being better role models?"
American history is peppered with the record of resentful, less successful whites burning down our communities, while 50 years ago, our fight for desegregation mysteriously detoured into a suicidal fight for "integration" that isolated the black poor communities, widening the gap between classes, so that we haven't come together as a socio-economic successful group since the last one you burned down. What you expect of us is irrelevant. Focus on yourselves and learn to leave my people alone. Police your own communities; we don't need your "help."
John Kraft - I will be honest that I can not find the video link now but the presenter was Chloe Valdary and she brings up interesting views in all her explanations.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol Define "interesting."
Interesting to someone who sees my people the way your particular demographic does? Do you think this will be "interesting" to me, too, or do you just want to hear my take on it?
John Kraft - Actually she does not pull punches and calls it as she sees it. Unlike Fox or any other network news she is less biased toward any group in her sights.
Muhammad Rasheed - [from Wiki] "Chloé Simone Valdary is a pro-Israel political activist and a Zionist. According to The Times of Israel, Valdary 'garnered widespread attention' with an article she wrote in Tablet in which she argued that pro-Palestine activists misappropriate the narrative of the African-American Civil Rights Movement."
Let me assure you that nothing coming out of this person's face would be "interesting" to me. Maybe you only thought you posted it in here. I would definitely have remembered that stuff.
John Kraft - When I had tried to link you to the video I was wanting an honest opinion but now do not care if you check or not.
Muhammad Rasheed - "How she sees it" has value only to her and those that think like her. That poisonous subjective worldview is worthless to me, John. You may keep it.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol I definitely would have given you my honest opinion. You withdraw the offer because you don't care for honesty when it doesn't reinforce your own opinions?
Muhammad Rasheed - I don't blame you. I feel the same way. An honest opinion from a foundation of complete racist bullshit rubs me the wrong way just like the anti-racism honesty talk burns you and yours up.
Muhammad Rasheed - John Kraft wrote: “I will let the comment stand…”
I had a feeling you would. I’ll admit that I respect folk more when they dig their heels in and own their ideologies, instead of backpedaling and pretending they didn’t mean what they said. There are different types of criminal among every race and ethnic group as well, those who do less planning than others. To ignore your own "snap crime of passion" criminals to compare the "carefully planned murder" white criminal to our "snap crime of passion" criminals while ignoring our "carefully planned murder" black criminals is precisely what a racist worldview looks like. In every way. 
John Kraft wrote: “…but add more personal observation. […] I always made sure to be friendly with soldiers of all groups to protect myself from that 10% of Blacks. Some people just love causing confrontations. Me in some areas too.”
So “10% of the dark-skinned soldiers” did XYZ that you disapproved of, and you are implying that that 10% represents what? That because that 10% behaved a certain way does it somehow prove that the entire black race was that way? What was the point of typing this? Are you trying to justify a racist stereotype worldview because you saw 10% of a group behave in a way that confirmed a stereotype in your mind, even though you admit that you yourself also act the way this 10% acted? Your observation doesn’t mean much from an objective analysis standpoint, John.
John Kraft wrote: “The point I am proving…”
You’re actually not proving a point at all, just sharing your subjective opinions with the group. If anything you are proving that your personal worldview is heavily reinforced with the racial stereotypes that are at the root cause of our country's most enduring social problems.
John Kraft wrote: “…is that there is always some willing to argue right or wrong about any topic.”
I’m pretty sure no one needs you to prove that the human being of earth is inherently contentious. Are you not a military dude? 
John Kraft wrote: “Personally I do not care about race…”
I’ll respect you more if you continue to stick to honesty.
John Kraft wrote: “…but do judge people by attitude. I do make snap judgements about people by the way they dress and am offended by tattoos and visible piercings.”
Did Black Americans invent the modern popularity of tattoos and visible piercings? The (very caucasian) First Family of tattooing are all in my FB Friend List. They made their fortune on the new “everyone’s doing it!” trend that came directly from suburban whites deciding it was cool. Again I don’t see the point of why you are bringing up what you’ve decided to bring up here.
John Kraft wrote: “I do not judge people by what they can not change.”
Should I take this seriously and at face value? Your first “observation” above left a very different impression upon me, markedly different from what this sentence claims.
John Kraft - I would say about 17% of the Military is black and I found that about 10% of that 17% were actively searching for ways to get any fair or blanco skinned soldiers in trouble. No other races in the melting pot of the Army seemed to be purposely trying to cause trouble.
Muhammad Rasheed - Your biased way of seeing the world is now well-documented in these two threads. Forgive me if I do not take seriously your efforts of presenting these views as scientifically objective. You see what you want to see, filtered through the lens of this particular form of toxic worldview.

OPEN CARRY: A Demonstration of Racist Hypocrisy

Muhammad Rasheed - [shared link]



Open-carry activists mob bullet-ridden Austin police station to show guns aren’t scary

Muhammad Rasheed - "White people march on police station with loaded assault weapons and one says he hopes the chief 'heeds his words' (sounds like a threat to me), but no one gets beaten, tased or shot...must be nice ‪#‎GotPrivilege‬"  ~Tim Wise
Chris Suess - I heard that they all went out for ice cream afterwards too.
Muhammad Rasheed - "Who's down for a vanilla ice cream party?!"
Muhammad Rasheed - Dude! You totally can have any kind of flavor you want (I know Gary does. *wink*). I thought that one was your fav.
Chris Suess - oh totally, I just dont like being told it's ALL I can have.
Muhammad Rasheed – Well, WHO told you that?
John Kraft - You are the only one who mentioned race Muhammad Rasheed unless you mean the White Arse Wipe killed six months prior to this picture.
Muhammad Rasheed - Comparing the double-standard hypocrisies demonstrated almost daily in how white cops treat their own versus how they treat my people is very much about the racism issue, John.
The fact that you can't see that merely reinforces that point. By about a trillion percent.
Muhammad Rasheed - Selfish ass. #justLikeaWhiteDude
Chris Suess - meh give you a billion and you take a trillion.
Muhammad Rasheed - how many trillions do you have?
Chris Suess - #SorryWhitesOnlyInformation
Muhammad Rasheed - Don't worry about it. We'll find out during the Fed Audit.
Chris Suess - whew... totally safe then.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol
Muhammad Rasheed - "You are the only one who mentioned race..." is going into my "needs to be a meme" folder. It's starting to get on my nerves.
Chris Suess - you wouldn't like him when he's angry.... Muhammad SMASH
Muhammad Rasheed - AARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Kraft - I see at least 4 different nationalities in the picture not everything is about being racist. There are idiots and Arse Wipes in all national groups from Albino through yellow all the way to really dark Brown.
Chris Suess - I see no dark brown, but that could be a screen calibration. Though I think open carry applies to all human rainbow options.
well except maybe those green muther fuckers.
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Suess wrote: "Though I think open carry applies to all human rainbow options."
You are OUT OF YOUR MIND for typing that.
Muhammad Rasheed - WHAT WHITE COP IN THE UNIVERSE WOULD ALLOW BLACKS TO DO THAT OPEN CARRY BULLSHIT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS THE WAY YOU DO IT IN MINE????????????????
Muhammad Rasheed - Get the fuck out of here!!!!!!!
Chris Suess - that doesnt mean that I dont think you shouldn't be allowed to... but I think that you should be allowed to sit in the front of the bus too... call me crazy.
Muhammad Rasheed - Unfortunately you're apparently in the minority in that. You and Tim Wise, and that's IT. lol
Muhammad Rasheed - j/k of course. Chill.
Chris Suess - hey I'm in the minority!!! What am I going to do with new found burden?
John Kraft - My cousin by marriage a cop in Minneapolis MN with a working dog and having done undercover duty has Dark skinned parents who worked hard so that he could succeed in life but those A-Holes in Ferguson and Baltimore make life rougher for him. Race is not the issue Attitude is!
Muhammad Rasheed - Well, when you pretend that attitude is connected to their skin color and the continent their ancestors are from, you add to the racism problem. You never did answer my questions from that "10% dark-skinned" bullshit you pulled out of your ass the other day. Finish cleaning your weapon and then get back to me on that, Ooah?
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Suess wrote: "hey I'm in the minority!!! What am I going to do with new found burden?"
May I suggest working hard to build up your community so the majority can make up a fake reason to burn it to the ground out of resentful racist hatred, and then go around saying how lazy you are?
Muhammad Rasheed - That's my FAVORITE one. #fuckingAssholes
Muhammad Rasheed - 8 Successful and Aspiring Black Communities Destroyed by White Neighbors
John Kraft - Why are you using old propaganda? Is there nothing after Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks? Why are the two girls prior to Rosa Parks ignored before she stood up to the evil whites?
Muhammad Rasheed - So you consider the history of whites burning down successful black communities while calling us 'lazy nigg3rs' to be "propaganda" when the subject is mentioned, huh?  Curious.
Yes, there is a continuing history after Martin and Rosa. It's composed of liberal policies that isolated the Black economic classes so they keep us from coming together to form another successful black community for you to burn to the ground.



Muhammad Rasheed - John Kraft wrote: "I see at least 4 different nationalities in the picture..."
"American" is a "nationality." Notice that there are members of the white and black races within that nationality? Stop being disingenuous, please. Go clean your rifle.
John Kraft - I do not claim to be German American and I do not hear Irish American or even Jamaican American so why do I hear African American so often? If people are so proud of their ethnic background go back to the damn country.
Muhammad Rasheed - Why does it bother you how another group describes themselves?
I like how you get all indignant and racist-assholish when confronted with your peoples' epic bullshit. Just own up to it and stop it.
Muhammad Rasheed - STEP ONE in finally being a real Post-Racial America: Own up to your shit and stop being so slimy. Fuck.
John Kraft - By the way what is an Assault Weapon? I do not see any hammers in the photo even though most Assaults are with Hammers. In the article it mentions that safety's were checked multiple times or are you just offended that it was a white dude killed?
Muhammad Rasheed - I'm offended that a group of armed whites will walk into a police station threatening folk and the white cops will grin sheepishly, but shoot a black child to death for having a toy.
Muhammad Rasheed - I don't hate whites, I hate the racist institutionalism, and the demonstrated hypocrisies of it in action.

VICTORY! Mayweather Defeats Pacquiao

Muhammad Rasheed - I had a GREAT day! The Filipino nation has been destroyed. Their warrior-king vanquished, my office staff forlorn and sad, with their pitiful tears turning the floor into glorious sand-mud.
‪#‎goodTimes
Muhammad Rasheed - Next time they'll listen to their supervisor, I'll bet.
Britnnie Kramer - I was wondering what everyone would be like over there. Assuming as much as you said and more.
Muhammad Rasheed - They totally started it. lol
Jay Mac - Ah man!
You rubbing it in their faces, huh?
Luther Johnson - 'glorious sand mud'....LOL
Gary McCoy - Sorry to disappoint. The Philippines are as strong as ever. Destroyed? Hardly. Maybe Mayweather, and those who idolize this money-obsessed thug, should stay away from the low blows. Floyd Mayweather: The thug with two jets, 100 cars and $250,000 in a duffel bag he'll blow at a strip club if he wins tonight's big fight
Abdur Rasheed - How's that any different from super wealthy Billionaires who toss away hundreds of million to buy elections?
Koch Brothers’ Budget of $889 Million for 2016 Is on Par With Both Parties’ Spending
"Thug" huh?
What makes HIM a thug?
Abdur Rasheed - Sheldon Adelson - Real Time Net Worth (Forbes)
Abdur Rasheed - Mayweather spends his money the way everybody does. 
He's worth well over $300 million dollars.
If you took the same percentage of YOUR money, and could buy a high-end luxury car with $1500 dollars, you would have a fleet too.
If you're jealous then stop looking.
Gregory Walker - Damn Rasheed! Kinda harsh man.
Gary McCoy - Jealous? Hardly I'm not jealous of, nor do I look up to men like Mayweather. I've got something he is sorely lacking: Integrity. Anyone who could blow a quarter million dollars on strippers while there are starving children in this world is in dire need of a thing called values. If that's the kind of guy you look up to, then more power to you, brother. To each their own.
Abdur Rasheed - $250,000 helped starving strippers.
I never requested that you admire him. I'm just putting it in perspective.
The man is worth over $330,000,000.
So $250,000 may seem like a lot of money to you but for him it's .07% of his income.
To put that in perspective if you are worth $50,000 then that would be the equivalent of you spending $35 at the strip club.
$35 could go a long way toward starving children as well, but nobody would question your integrity over it.
It still sounds like jealousy to me.
Muhammad Rasheed - Gary McCoy wrote: "Jealous? Hardly I'm not jealous of, nor do I look up to men like Mayweather."
Based on our history of discussions, and the typical posts on your Timeline, naturally "men like Mayweather" means "Black American Men." You have a great disdain for them, that's the real reason this status post burns you up. You love indulging in the flesh of exotic beauties from many different nationalities though, right? You look up to scum like the Great White Colonialist types from the most blatantly evil era of the Euro-ethnic’s rule. 
btw I'm usually significantly harsher in my own territory than I am when I wander into yours. FYI.
Muhammad Rasheed - I guess this makes me the True American Patriot since I was apparently the only American that genuinely wanted Floyd to win the fight, outside of my boxing analysis predictions. 
I'll take it. I love my country and want us to be the best. I'm proud to have the top high-level talent coming from our lands.
Gary McCoy - Muhammad Rasheed, I thought I made it pretty clear, but let's try again. By "men like Mayweather", I simply meant guys who flaunt their wealth and beat their women. If you want to focus on the fact that his skin color matches yours that's your prerogative. Here's Floyd Mayweather's Son's Note Telling How His Dad Beat His Mom
Muhammad Rasheed - Gary McCoy wrote: “Muhammad Rasheed, I thought I made it pretty clear…”
You made it pretty clear quite a while ago. You tend to gravitate towards putting poor black people and desperate black criminals on your Timeline as your source of social commentary humor to your buds. Where are all the poor white trash jackasses to balance it out? Meanwhile you brag that you just LOOOVE the sexual flesh of non-white women. 
Gary McCoy wrote: “…but let's try again.”
lol Okay.
Gary McCoy wrote: “By ‘men like Mayweather,’ I simply meant guys who flaunt their wealth and beat their women.”
Are these two separate items that get your goat, or just one? Does it have to be that precise combination that really burns you up? Do you usually go on an anti-domestic abuse tirade soapbox rant, or only when black men are accused of it? And is it a REAL pet issue of yours, or is it similar to all the GOP guys who are very publicly against homosexuals who frequently turn out to be homosexuals themselves? Do you abuse exotic, non-white flesh as part of your thing, Gary? When they go to the authorities is it easier to get out of the conviction by using your white privilege to your advantage? “Come ON, officer! Who’re you going to believe? ME or this fill-in-the-blank-racial-slur?”
That’s it, isn’t it? You can tell me. I’ll keep your semi-secret.
Gary McCoy wrote: “If you want to focus on the fact that his skin color matches yours that's your prerogative.”
Let me assure you that when your name pops up I always will. My advice? Change utterly.
Gary McCoy  - Really, Muhammad Rasheed? I brag that I "just LOOOVE the sexual flesh of non-white women" You're growing into quite the prevaricator (psst... that means liar). Here's what it comes down to: You've got a wealthy boxer who likes to 'whup his women's assess'. If you want to keep focusing on his skin color, go ahead. You brought it up, not me. But I understand. If you hadn't, what meaning would your life have? Imaginary Racism: The gift that keeps on giving to Muhammad Rasheed.
Muhammad Rasheed - So you don't want to play, eh? awww. frown emoticon
And yes, you do brag that you loOOoooOOOve exotic female flesh, oddly as some kind of proof that you aren't a racist, all while your Timeline is full of you making fun of non-white MEN. It's interesting that you think this bizarre, sociopathic mindset would actually leave some kind of warm & fuzzy feeling on people and make them think you are their friend. It's actually a savagery I associate with the very worst aspects of your demographic from history (I'd love for you to provide some pushback to encourage me to probe into the psychology behind this behavior to see which buttons it actually pushes.   :)  Do it.) 
I've decided to help you out though, Gary. I'm going to tag you in every single "dumb poor white trash criminal" meme I come across, in order to help your Timeline not look so racist as hell, so it'll at least give the illusion that you are an equal opportunity social humorist. You're welcome.
Muhammad Rasheed - Anyway, Floyd did his time for the 2010 incident in 2012, and there haven't been anymore accusations since. Your comment that he "likes" to commit domestic abuse offenses smacks of the judgmental assholery that you do very well when it comes to Black American men, so I look forward to seeing the hypocritical excuses you make for your own when I tag you in these "dumb poor white trash criminal" posts I find. 
Floyd's father did time for a domestic abuse item before his son fought for his first world title, so Floyd get's the problem legit through, as the Christian calls it, a family curse. I pray that he is able to break that curse from the counseling he's been taking, as well as the motivation that comes from the shame of public scrutiny. The fact that there haven't been any more high-profile incidents from him since 2010 is significant. As a God-fearing man, perhaps he has repented of the wrong doing, and if so, his Lord will forgive him. Of course I expect someone like you to continue to proudly stand in the role of the Accuser of legend, to gleefully bring up what the Lord Most High has forgiven, but I can expect no better. That's your thing, right?
Gary McCoy - Muhammad Rasheed, you repeat your lie again that I brag that I "loOOoooOOOve exotic female flesh". So I'll pause here while you provide your proof.
Gary McCoy - Okay, so now that I've proven you to be a liar once again, I'd be as big a fool as you are a liar to continue any discourse with you. So go back to hunting your racist bogeymen.
Muhammad Rasheed - That's not the direction I expected the pushback to come from. lol
You're not really suggesting that you only like white women, are you? We are having this discussion in public. Maybe you should dial back on that before you end up divorced or whatever.
Muhammad Rasheed - Pick one of those other items to get mad about for the sake of your household.
Gary McCoy - I said provide proof that I said that I, " loOOoooOOOve exotic female flesh". You can't because you know you are a liar. You can type something now and claim I said it again, as you did twice already. Repeating something does not make it true. I don't mind having the occasional race-debate with you, but I'm not going to humor your sick proclivity to spin and lie. And don't flatter yourself by thinking you in any way could threaten my "household". There may be people weak enough to be threatened by you. I'm not one of them.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol I didn't say I was threatening your household. I said maybe you don't want to take the stance that you are actually offended by the idea that you LOVE the flesh of non-white women, because the non-white women in your life lmight get mad and see you for what you are. The threat would come from your mask coming off. 
I'm just saying be careful with how you want to play this.
Muhammad Rasheed - I'm surprised that you really want to go here. It's funny. Are you SURE you want that proof? This is MY Timeline remember? You can't delete this thread.
Muhammad Rasheed - You can block me, of course, to keep your exotic ladies from seeing it though...
Gary McCoy - Being your timeline, I couldn't care less what you post as long as it's truthful. Because I doubt I care what those who read your timeline think of me. In a previous private message where I foolishly tried to convince you I wasn't one of those racist bogeymen you fear so much, I gave some of my background prior to marrying my Filipino wife, which explained that I've dated women of virtually every ethnicity, as well as having a black cousin. And if it's that simple declaration that makes you state falsely that I, "loOOoooOOOve exotic female flesh", then I recommend stronger meds for your delusions. By the way, I love Elton John's song, "Island Girl". Quickly, grab your inhaler!
Muhammad Rasheed -


Gary McCoy - Hey look! It's the woman-beater! Haha.
Muhammad Rasheed - You weren't trying to convince me that you weren't racist, you were trying to convince me the racists I was arguing with on your Timeline weren't racist. Haha.
Gary McCoy - Whatever. But back to the woman-beater. Please post more memes! I love me some memes!
Muhammad Rasheed - lol @ 'Whatever"
Gary McCoy - BTW, still waiting for the " loOOoooOOOve exotic female flesh" statement I supposedly made. Or are you ready to cry "uncle" yet?
Muhammad Rasheed - You already figured out exactly what I was referencing and mentioned your cleaned up version of it above. You admitted you have married and dated every exotic woman under the sun as somehow being proof that those anti-Obama cartoons of yours aren't racist in nature. You admit this freely, while your Timeline is full of anti-black men "jokes."
I don't understand why I would be the one saying "uncle." Aren't you the one that came onto my Mayweather victory post steaming mad? lol
Muhammad Rasheed - "The Filipino nation ISN'T destroyed!!! You take that BACK!!!!"
Muhammad Rasheed - hahahahahaha
Muhammad Rasheed - awwww.
Muhammad Rasheed - You're adorable, Gary.
Muhammad Rasheed - Don't EVER block me. We have too much fun.
Gary McCoy - Aw, Muhammad, just when I think you have your lying in check, you go and say, "You admitted you have married and dated every exotic woman under the sun as somehow being proof that those anti-Obama cartoons of yours aren't racist in nature. You admit this freely". Tsk tsk. How could I ever block you, Muhammad? For when your doctor asks you "what keeps you up at night?", you wouldn't be able to reply, "that grand wizard racist, exotic women-conquering, twerking in a tutu (your fantasy), Gary McCoy!"
Muhammad Rasheed - that's a good point...
Muhammad Rasheed - Then we agree you have my back then? Friends 4 life!
Muhammad Rasheed - We'll agree to never block each other. Like FB Blood Brothers or something like that.
Muhammad Rasheed - (please tell me you're not really twerking in tutus though)
Muhammad Rasheed - Your answer will determine whether I draw a caricature of you like that. Be forewarned.
Muhammad Rasheed - Gary McCoy wrote: "Quickly though... some background on my, lest you think that my anti-obama cartoons stem from racism.... before marrying my Filipino wife... I've dated, African-American girls, Kenyan, Jamaican, Romanian (yes, I know, Anglo).., Navajo, Malaysian, Chinese, Indian, oh yeah, and Filipino."
I guess that's not EVERY exotic woman under the sun, so I suppose my statement could technically be considered a lie, although I consider it disingenuous of you to sidestep the spirit of the message so sneakily. I forgive you though, since you're my FB Blood Brother now.
Muhammad Rasheed - btw How did that Romanian thing work out? Did you hate her because she wasn't brown enough or whatever?
Muhammad Rasheed - WAIT...! 
Is SHE the one you beat?! 
Omigosh!! Everything is making sense now!!! Gary, how COULD you??? 
Does your slimy Wizard evil have no end????
Muhammad Rasheed - Those are your own people, Gary!! YOUR OWN PEOPLE!!!!
Muhammad Rasheed - lol
Muhammad Rasheed - (this is almost as fun as when the unified undisputed boxing champion beat up your boy.)
#goodTimes
Muhammad Rasheed - [patiently waiting for Gary to respond so I can post my 'Mayweather - He Mad' meme again]
Gary McCoy - You're a weird fellow, Muhammad Rasheed. In one instance, you beg me not to block you and want to remain FB buddies, and then you proceed to post incendiary things in an effort to provoke me. Do you treat your women in such a crappy way, ala your woman-beating hero, Mayweather? Just curious. Gotta move on, got work to do, and exotic flesh to tend to.
Michael Daniels - Bottom line is that Mayweather is a great defensive yet unexciting boxer and a pathetic excuse for a human being. Pacquioau is a great fighter who is passed his prime, but by most accounts is a stand up guy. I think I'm probably in the majority in that I was expecting Mayweather to win but was rooting for Pac. I think a lot of people were rooting for Mayweather because they either didn't know what type of person he is, didn't care, or in the case of a lot of black folks were willing to overlook his money worshipping, woman beating, non-reading ways because he is black. Do you fall into that latter category, Mo?
Muhammad Rasheed - Gary McCoy wrote: “You're a weird fellow, Muhammad Rasheed.”
I know. It’s a gift.
Gary McCoy wrote: “In one instance, you beg me not to block you and want to remain FB buddies…”
lol “Beg” would be a lie. You recognize that was a demonstration of you doing something that you kept accusing me of, yes? Now I know for a fact you abuse your non-white women folk. Checkmate.
Gary McCoy wrote: “…and then you proceed to post incendiary things in an effort to provoke me.”
You TOLD me to produce my proof! About a hundred times! Hahahahaha It’s damned if I do, damned if I don’t with you. Hahahaha
You’ll be alright. You have your Wizardry privilege on your side.


Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: “Bottom line is that Mayweather is a great defensive yet unexciting boxer and a pathetic excuse for a human being.”
lol This is whose bottom line, Deac? Of folk like you and Gary who have intimate ties with the Filipino Nation? Hahaha I always thought Floyd was very exciting. I love actual boxing skill over slugger-ish half-boxing. According to the punch stats, he’s a great offensive boxer, too. In addition to his celebrated mastery of defensive techniques, Floyd is also famous for being deadly accurate with his strikes. That’s also exciting. To me.
Michael Daniels wrote: “Pacquioau is a great fighter…”
That’s your bias talking. Floyd is the great fighter. Manny proved to be merely “good.” 
Michael Daniels wrote: “…who is passed his prime…”
They both are.
Michael Daniels wrote: “…but by most accounts is a stand up guy.”
Manny’s weakness is that he’s a puppet for his slimy handlers. He doesn’t stand up for anything.
Michael Daniels wrote: “I think I'm probably in the majority in that I was expecting Mayweather to win but was rooting for Pac.”
Probably. They’ve been billing Floyd as the bad guy for quite a while now. 
Michael Daniels wrote: “I think a lot of people were rooting for Mayweather because they either didn't know what type of person he is, didn't care…”
I think everybody that rooted for Floyd knew exactly who he was, and the ones that hate him for whatever reason rooted for his rival.
Michael Daniels wrote: “…or in the case of a lot of black folks were willing to overlook his money worshipping…”
That’s slander. Very Christian of you. Floyd believes in God. He thanks God first thing at the end of every fight. You may want to dial that back and let his Lord do all the judging since He is the one that actually sees into His servant’s heart. 
Michael Daniels wrote: “…woman beating…”
I notice people with strong ties to the Filipino Nation are fond of being in the role of The Accuser. That’s not a very Godly trait mind. This is a clue that The Philippines’ favorite son isn’t the Chosen One after all… lol
Michael Daniels wrote: “…non-reading ways…”
Yeah, he should go to prison AND hell for that I guess. 
Michael Daniels wrote: “…because he is black. Do you fall into that latter category, Mo?”
I’m a fan of his because he is highly-skilled in my favorite physical fitness activity in the way I like, and he’s a successful African-American that does it. The same reason I enjoy the performances of all my favorite fighters.

HeroTalk: Master Spy Files

Red Skew - Go to bed!

MRasheed - It's 8:40am. I just got to work.

YOU go to bed.

Red Skew - Where are you?

Japan?

MRasheed - I'm in Kuwait.

Red Skew - Oh shit. Well Good Morning to you sir. Ha!

MRasheed - Thanks.

What time is it in CA?

Red Skew - 10:40PM

MRasheed - Yeah, YOU go to bed.

Red Skew - Believe me. I am soon. Got to work early.

I'm an old man.

Muhammad Rasheed - Are you following that Karl Eburne thread?

Red Skew - Nah, whats going on?

MRasheed - Here, read this... [Karl Eburne - dossier]

MRasheed - That's the beginning of a long and interesting thread discussion.

Red Skew - Uh oh, that would start something.

MRasheed - I wanted to ask you to copy/paste whatever JR posted in it in this PM, because I can't read him. He's invisible since he blocked me awhile ago.

Red Skew - JR blocked me for a while because I posted about Bill Maher, but then he was back a few days later. Not sure if I'm blocked again.

MRasheed - He blocked me in '08 or '09.

I was nice in those days. lol

At least on FB.

Red Skew - Oh, mine was more recent.

I think I"m very nice on FB in the face outright bigots.

MRasheed - I know he was still mad at me for daring to point out that Jews sometimes do things that are wrong.

Red Skew - Y'know how that goes.

MRasheed - Apparently that means I'm an anti-Semite for not being willing to pretend they are eternally squeaky clean no matter what.

The crazy part is that I was actually talking about a notorious gangster. lol

Red Skew - I know. I got blasted for attacking Bibi Netanyahu.

MRasheed - "Wait... so I can't point out that a notorious murderous gangster happened to be Jewish (and VERY pro-Israel) without being labeled an anti-Semi--!"

*BLOCK*

Red Skew - I'd block your Jew hating ass too!!!!

MRasheed - Calm down!!

Red Skew - Sarcasm for the NSA if you're reading this.

MRasheed - lol Anyway, he said something in Karl's thread that some people consider very insightful, and I want to see it.

MRasheed - Scroll through that thread of Karl's for me and copy/paste what JR said, please.

Red Skew - My ex father in law was NSA, and he used to swear that they didn't listen in on Americans. I knew he was lying then.

Okay, hold on.

Red Skew - Sorry the link is saying content in unavailable.

MRasheed - Karl's not a friend of yours...?

Red Skew - Nope.

Red Skew - Dont know him from Mshindo.

MRasheed - ???

Are you a commie?

MRasheed - Wait... you are.



Red Skew - Marxist.

Dont label me with that Lenin shit.

MRasheed - Psh. Whatever. lol

Red Skew - Ha!

MRasheed - See if you can find the thread by lurking on his Timeline.

Red Skew - Okay I'll go lurk.

Red Skew - I'm on his page, but it only allows me to see his latest post. Not the one you're referencing.

MRasheed - Send Karl a friend request, please. Were you really just going to stop right there? What kind of Marxist spy ARE you??? Get your game up.

Red Skew - Sorry man, I've been corrupted by the west with Weed, White Women and sunny Weather!! DAS KAPITAL save me!

MRasheed - hahahaha

I guess the turnover for that line of work WOULD be pretty high...

Red Skew - Yeah, Marxist spy isn't the most lucrative career.

MRasheed - Marxist Handler: "And you, Comrade, will be assigned duty in Los Angeles, CA."

Red Skew: "YES!"

Red Skew: "I mean... I will do my best."

Red Skew - Exactly.

MRasheed - lol

Red Skew - Well sir. I am off to bed. I'll chat with you later.

__________________

MRasheed - Are you Karl's friend yet?

Don't lie to me or I'll know.

Red Skew - Yes, we are friends. Now what was it I was supposed to cut and paste for you?

MRasheed - Look in his thread, and steal for me the comments that JR posted.

MRasheed - Don't get caught.

Red Skew - Well, I thought we were friends, but he evidently hasn't approved me yet because I dont see him on my friends list.

MRasheed - What???

Your intelligence agent skills leave much to be desired.

Red Skew - Yeah, I'm a pointy head intellectual.

MRasheed - I see that I'm going to have to find myself a new Marxist spy.

You'll have to die now, of course.

Red Skew - I'll betray my Marxist brethren for a few gold pieces. If its good enough for Judas, its good enough for me.

MRasheed - You can't even get me the info I need.

At least Judas' mission was successful.

Red Skew - Yeah, but as a good capitalist wannabe I'm going to keep you on the hook by slowly releasing information.

MRasheed - Notice that so far you haven't given me a single word of the data I asked for.

Red Skew - Yes, but I'm selling you the dream.

MRasheed - I don't think we interpret "slowly releasing information" the same way...

Red Skew - Of course not, but that's the way of the spy game.

Haven't you seen James Bond?

MRasheed - Meh. Maybe.

So let me see... You've failed your spy mission, and you reference a film franchise as your point of training manual.

You know that makes you the Lionel Hutz of Marxist spies, right?

Red Skew - Ha!

Better than the Lou Costello of Marxist spies.

MRasheed - Now I have to find a new spy. Who else was in that thread...?

MRasheed - You couldn't even get in the thread, I KNOW you don't know who was in it. #worstSpyEver

I would ask Karl himself, but he can be kind of strict sometimes, and is probably one-half scandal away from deleting me...

Ah! Jeremy is in there! Very good. He works cheap.

MRasheed - *dials spy phone*

Red Skew - Of course Jeremy works cheap, he's a Bat boy.

MRasheed - Exactly. And I can probably get him to ice pick kill a couple of people before he leaves. Jeremy doesn't care.

Sh! It’s ringing...

Red Skew - Derp.

Red Skew - Well, I’m off to watch a little Television before bed. Take it easy brother Mo.

MRasheed - *sends assassins*__________________

MRasheed - Jeremy!! Are you awake? I need your spy skills.

MRasheed - Jeremy? Wake up!!!

MRasheed - I require information for reasons most nefarious! Only your skills can accomplish this. Red Skew failed me miserably.

MRasheed - *hangs up*

MRasheed - *sends assassins*
____________

MRasheed - Toddfather! I need your spy skills! Are you game?

Are you awake?

[eyes narrow]
____________




MRasheed - Ishmiel!! Are you awake?

Ishmiel - Lol yea

I shouldn't be

MRasheed - Great! Are you FB Friends with Karl Eburne?

Ishmiel - Maybe

MRasheed – lol I need a "yes or no."

Ishmiel - Nope

MRasheed - Bah!!!

Ishmiel - Lol

MRasheed - >:(

Ishmiel - Should I be?

I think ive seen his name before..

MRasheed - Well... probably not, or I would've had to kill you if you failed this mission.

Anyway! Have a good night!

*click*
*dial tone*

Ishmiel - Lol ooooook

Ishmiel - [calls me back] What he do?

MRasheed - To be clear: I would've had to kill you because you would've known too much.

Ishmiel - You really feel like coming out here to snuff me. Nah

MRasheed - Heck no. I have a crack team of crackhead assassins on crack to do my light work.

They are very motivated.

Ishmiel - Im gonna take myself to bed to dream of young ladies and avoid crack ass ass ins

MRasheed - lol

Very well.

Good night!

Ishmiel - Night ill hit u up tomorrow





MRasheed - Hey, are you FB Friends with Karl Eburne by chance?

Scooter Alvarez - Nope why? We have mutual friends

MRasheed - I need a spy mission completed. Good spies are hard to come by it turns out.

Primarily because they're all asleep now, I guess. Lame ass spies.

Scooter Alvarez - You screenshots? Ok

MRasheed - Hm? No, I needed some info captured from a person who has blocked me.

Scooter Alvarez - Well, they probably blocked me too LOL

MRasheed - Hmmm... I seem to have successfully recruited an old nemesis of yours for this mission.

Scooter Alvarez - Ew who?

MRasheed - From The Order of Hotep.

Scooter Alvarez - Oh Gawd

MRasheed – lol @ "Ew who?"

Scooter Alvarez - There's so many LOL

MRasheed - I don't know how serious you all's eBeef was so I'm curious as to the audience reaction.

Because I'm a shit stirrer, I guess. *shrug*

C'est le vie!

MRasheed - The worst part of being the mastermind of a spy ring is the waiting. FYI

MRasheed - Your nemesis failed to negotiate the first hurdle. I was forced to destroy him.





MRasheed - Kenjii!! Are you FB Friends with Karl Eburne?

(why do these people go to bed so damn early?)

MRasheed - KENJII! Awaken! I require your spy skills!

MRasheed - Bah!!

Kenjji - Maybe but I dont know who that is

Ok yes but dont really know him wussup

MRasheed - There's this one thread he made that I need some information extracted for me.

Kenjji - Subject of thread

MRasheed –  [Karl Eburne - dossier]

MRasheed - I need the posts that were written by "JR."

He is now invisible to me because of a "blocking episode" from way back.

Please copy-paste his comment[s] into this PM.

Kenjji - It won't let me access the thread

MRasheed - Dammit.

MRasheed - Abort.

MRasheed - *sends assassins*





MRasheed - Deacon!! I require your Marxist spy skills post haste!!

Do you accept this mission? yes or no?

Deacon - No

MRasheed - OH, COME ON!!!

Deacon - maybe

elaborate

MRasheed - I was blocked by fellow ex-HeroTalker "JR" a while back, but I require the stealing of his posts so that I may read them. The posts are located in the lair of a certain "Karl Eburne." Your mission...

...should you choose to accept it...

...is to copy/paste these JR posts into this very PM.

Failure is not an option. You are not to be seen or caught.

Deacon – [Deacon’s Personal Lockpicking Kit: Marxist Spy Edition]


MRasheed - What's all of this then...?

MRasheed - That's not what he posted!

Deacon - Sign in as me and spy to your heart's content

Deacon - just don't post under my name

MRasheed – Oh.

lol

Okay.

Thanks!

Deacon - It just made me change my Spy Code.....

It's now *******.

MRasheed - Deacon, I can't! It's asking for all kinds of personal security questions because of the alien IP Address! "Who is your Lord & Savior?" How am I supposed to know????

Do this spy mission for me, please, and I promise to be nicer.

MRasheed - Please?

Deacon - What thread are you interested in?

MRasheed - It's in here:  [Karl Eburne - dossier]

MRasheed - Remember! Posts by JR.

DON'T GET CAUGHT!

Deacon - He's deleted the thread.

Deacon - The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page.

MRasheed - Karl isn't in your Friend List...?

Deacon - No...Ask Jeremy....He liked one of his comments.

MRasheed - Jeremy is either sleep or dead. My spies haven't confirmed which yet.

Okay. Well, thanks anyway.

MRasheed - *sends assassins*

Deacon - Remember you promised to be nice

And don't give out my Spy Kit.

MRasheed - (hmmm... what's the code to counter the "No weapon formed against me will prosper" charm...?)

Ah!

Good night, Deac!

(heh heh heh)

Deacon - Shalom

MRasheed - Peace. :)




MRasheed – [hears noise on roof]

Jeremy611 - What, fool-assed fool?!

Jeremy611 - What are you going on about now?!

MRasheed - I see you have survived the assassins.

Impressive.

MRasheed - I'll give you another chance at this delicate mission.

Jeremy611 - Speak, fool!

MRasheed – Read this:  [Karl Eburne - dossier]

Go into this thread and extract some information for me.

The one called "JR" blocked me some time ago and has become invisible. Your mission...

...should you choose to accept it...

...is to copy/paste/send his post[s] into a PM.

Jeremy611 - OK, here goes...




MRasheed - Excellent. Be careful. Do not get caught.

Jeremy611 - He must have deleted his posts because I cannot see them either.

MRasheed - Are you also blocked? This was my only clue of his presence… [Michael Contreras wrote: "J.R.'s points are valid."]

Jeremy611 - I remember that JR posted something, I don't remember what it was, but I did see it before. Therefore, he must have deleted his comments because he had no reason to block me, everyone loves me.

MRasheed - I see. He's even sneakier than I thought. Very well.

I didn't get what I was after, but you at least followed the mission to the end of the trail, making you a superior spy to all of your peers.

*wires $15,000.00 to jeremy611's account*

MRasheed - I'll be in touch.

Jeremy611 - Yay!



MRasheed - *answers ringing spy phone*

The Toddfather - I am awake now...S'up? 
MRasheed - Do you remember that thread from Karl Eburne?

The Toddfather - Saw it but didn't get a chance to read it...

MRasheed - It's okay. The info I was trying to get you to retrieve has been deleted.

The Toddfather - Ah...fighting some Facebook Battles Bro???

MRasheed - No, just some international data trafficking. lol

The Toddfather - Ha!!!! Even better...LOL!!

MRasheed - This particular person blocked me a while ago, and I wanted to see what he said. I wouldn't have known he had posted in the thread if someone hadn't talked to him directly in it.

But alas. He removed what he said. [eyes narrow]

Eventually he'll make a mistake. Get sloppy.

And I'll be there.

The Toddfather - LMFAO!!!!

Revenge of the American Aborigine?

Chuck Savage - Yea !!! Fuck You Cowboys !!!
Muhammad Rasheed - Whoa.
Muhammad Rasheed - What are you? Native American?
Chuck Savage - Nah Italian American. But after the Lions getting knocked out of the playoffs by them, happy to see Green Bay win. Also any team that self-proclaims themselves as "Americas Team"... are douche bags.
Muhammad Rasheed - TRANSLATION: "Blah, blah, blah football blah, blah, blah football."
Chuck Savage - Boooooo
Muhammad Rasheed - hahahaha

The Respectable Politics of the Token Black

Muhammad Rasheed - The Wiki definition of "respectability politics" left me with more questions than answers. Primarily because of what they are tracing/linking it to, compared to what modern black political writers are describing it as.
Tell me which of these is actually correct, please. Is respectability politics:
a) The effort to downplay the differences in your culture to demonstrate how much you have in common with the dominant group
b) Encouraging the abandonment of your culture to take on that of the dominant group ("brown-skinned Barbie")
c) Telling members of your culture that if only they will perform XYZ, the dominant group will like them
Kamau Mkafele Mshale - C is the closest. I think the other two are more about assimilation
Kamau Mkafele Mshale - The best example is " you cant expect others to respect us when we kill each other" or "if not for hoodies sagging pants and thug culture those kids would not have died"
Muhammad Rasheed - I got you. I disagree with B being "assimilation" though, unless you mean some wack-a-doo extreme form in which you 100% lose your own identity, walking around wearing the mask of the other group member.
Muhammad Rasheed - The monkey wrench in C is apparent within my earlier Eddie Murphy/Harlem Nights post. They don't like you anyway, and only tolerate you when you live your life according to the way they want to see you perform on their terms. 
Doing ANTHING so that type of personality will like you is insane.
Kamau Mkafele Mshale - Pretty much. Like brown skin barbie is cool but brown skin with blonde hair and blue eyes is a prob and more so if you no longer got love for things fron your own culture
Muhammad Rasheed - I used the "brown-skinned Barbie" not as a fashion statement, but as a societal archetype to represent the type of person who hates their own culture, and it is their fondest, semi-secret wish to actually BE one of the other group... in every way.
Dave Stephens - Is there a culture or subculture on the planet that DOESN'T have its own version of a Barbie?
Muhammad Rasheed - I'm more interested in why misdirection towards a band-aid effort of 'multiculturalism' involving the literal Barbie Doll by Mattel, Inc. is relevant to this topic concerning a philosophical concept in which "Barbie" was just used as a symbol.
Muhammad Rasheed - Dave, is this you sincerely trying to understand the topic discussion, or are you trying to sabotage/derail it? I can't tell which.
Dave Stephens - It's completely relevant – if every culture has its own version of Barbie, it stands to reason that having that hardly qualifies as abandoning...
Muhammad Rasheed - Are you talking about every culture having its own version of a popular doll, or the "multicultural" collectors' line from Barbie?
Dave Stephens - I'm sure there are better examples of disingenuous multiculturalism – but I understand this is way above my pay grade, so no worries.
Dave Stephens - No I'm not talking specifically about Mattel or whatever, just that concepts of unattainable beauty inevitably find their way into dolls and toys... I don't think it's avoidable I think it's inevitable.
Dave Stephens - I agree with Kamau about brown skin blue-eyed blonde hair Barbie.
Muhammad Rasheed - Despite the clueless myth of blacks having high self-esteem, they are in general severely psychologically damaged to dislike traditional African features because of the fruit of the white supremacist societal legacy that upholds euro-values and euro-beauty standards as 'normal.' The "brown barbie" concept comes from the extreme version of the resulting psychosis in which blacks will literally hate themselves and wish they were white, being perfectly happy to be the Token Black Face in the group of white people, pretending -- sadly -- they are just another white person among them. That's specifically what I was referring to; it didn't have anything to do with dolls in the literal sense.
Dave Stephens - I got that. I've seen that kind of self-hate exactly, represented here in San Diego at a Boys and Girls Club way back in the early 90s when I taught computer basics - as a reward for good behavior, I drew caricatures of some of the kids and it was deeply disturbing to me when one of the 8 year old African American girls asked to be drawn with blond hair and blue eyes... I'm sure I broke some kind of rule when I told her I was going to draw her how the good Lord made her, because God doesn't make mistakes... I got a few amen's from her friends, so I think that was the right approach.
Muhammad Rasheed - That's exactly the type of psychosis that's affecting the black community; a piece from several broken shards of racism's legacy. I know from the outside looking in it seems like we complain about it a lot and are always "playing the race card" as you all say. But the fact that that 8 year old baby is suffering the full force of the typical inferiority complex of our people, programmed into her from equally damaged parents, is a glimpse into the very reason why we complain. 
It won't be an easy fix, Dave, and it'll certainly take more than the election of a black president to do so.
Muhammad Rasheed - Telling us to "get over it," and condescendingly telling us "this won't help" when our frustrations inevitably reach a boiling point, isn't going to fix it either. That's actually how bitterness, resentments, and just more of the same are created.
Dave Stephens - What would help a lot would be thousands of police answering for their crimes instead of being protected by a horribly corrupt system - THAT would help immeasurably…
I am not anti-police, I am anti-getting away with murder, that's all.
Muhammad Rasheed - I would be crazy to be anti-police. I enjoy living in a technologically-advanced civilization, and abolishing the police force would give all of that up, pretty much overnight.
What I am is anti-police corruption, and anti-individual racism bias hidden behind the badge, and protected by a system that "understands" that bias and is willing to give it a pass because Black Lives don't Matter in that system.

Just Get Over It & We Promise To Accept You This Time

Muhammad Rasheed - They're not stupid, they just don't give a shit about you. They believe everything the tv said about black people, so they think you have no value. When you are killed they don't even blink; it literally means nothing. When the tension builds and erupts into local destruction then they shake their heads and coo about how this isn't helping anything, they feel bad for the things being destroyed, and in their mind it confirms that you were just a savage after all.
If only you were sweet and patiently long-suffering like that kid they celebrated as the Perfect Negro Archetype from The Blind Side film. But all of this complaining about ill treatment and getting angry and bringing up historic wrongs...? 
"What are we going to DO with you? Please calm down. This isn't helping. Will your people EVER grow up? My my... look at you. Just like a bunch of monkeys. Life is not fair, okay? You're just going to have to get over it."
Honestly, it's like they want us to hate and resent them. 
Clifton Hatchett - Brilliant. 
Cavadias Bryant - Awesome!!! 
Khalil MuMinun - I was talking to a co worker last night and came to the same conclusion about their perspectives. They don't care and wouldn't have it any other way no matter what you say 
Chris Jones - " they" think it's horrible that it's got to come to this in order to say that enough is enough." they" also think it could be counter productive by giving the police a reason to militarize and jeopardize more black lives.There has got to be a better way.Peiple like to make it black vs. white but its black and white vs. Blue. 
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Jones wrote: “’they’ think it's horrible that it's got to come to this in order to say that enough is enough.”
That’s an odd thing to say considering so many of the European ethnic groups had to fight through revolutions and bloody battles of their own in order to achieve their societal rights. In fact, all of our riots have been pretty lightweight in comparison. I guess when black people do it though it magically becomes savage and jungle crazy, huh? Yeah, how horrible that it has to come to this when all we wanted was to be treated like humans in the first place. It sucks when centuries old wrongs still linger in an age in which people pretend that that mindset is primitive and no longer relevant.
Chris Jones wrote: “‘they’ also think it could be counter productive by giving the police a reason to militarize and jeopardize more black lives.”
I would consider that ironic considering when we aren’t rioting out of impotent frustration, the dominant mainstream’s leg breakers are shooting our babies dead because of society’s proven attitude that Black Lives just don’t Matter.
Chris Jones wrote: “There has got to be a better way.”
STEP ONE: Stop blaming the victims when they get mad. 
STEP TWO: Black society really should come together across all socio-economic class lines, the way they had no choice but to do during the jim crow era, and continue to a time when they developed their own economic power bloc that contributed to the whole. Black empowerment is the best of all better ways.
STEP THREE: Black society should join the international Technological Elite, with the average Black doctorate degree in math, science, tech instead of education or philosophy or whatever. Join the powerful moneyed class.
Chris Jones wrote: “Peiple like to make it black vs. white…”
This is America, right? It will always be about racism until we actively work to eradicate it from our land. Until we do so, in preference to pretending it doesn’t exist and getting irritated when the traditional victims complain about it, expect to continue to hear it.
Chris Jones wrote: “…but its black and white vs. Blue.”
The cops are the enforcement arm for the dominant mainstream group.
Chris Jones - My bad. I forgot. I'm automatically the enemy because I'm white, I can't relate because I'm white, I'm mainstream cop loving, racist, gay hating, dumb hillbilly cracker. I don't get to have an opinion as an American? We are both Americans, correct? We ( whether you agree) are in this together,we have to figure it out together. Its ironic that I care enough about Black lives to want Black folk to not gave to live in more fear from police or rioters. Its bad enough as it is, you want more police running around in tanks and swat gear? I don't! Its counterproductive! 
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Jones wrote: “My bad. I forgot. I'm automatically the enemy because I'm white…”
This is a strawman argument, and is the most common form of logical fallacy in a discussion. It is composed of the opponent creating a false argument that he pretends the other guy said, and arguing against it. At no time or place did I ever make the claim that all whites are my enemy. I don’t believe that. This isn’t an individual versus individual debate; this is a battle of ideologies. If the ideology that I’m arguing against happens not to belong to you, then what do you want? 
Chris Jones wrote: “…I can't relate because I'm white, I'm mainstream cop loving, racist, gay hating, dumb hillbilly cracker. I don't get to have an opinion as an American?”
I believe in the Freedom of Speech, Chris. Be free to speak your mind; we do not believe in censoring people and deleting threads on this Timeline. We do believe in challenging peoples’ claims and walking an argument down to its logical conclusion. If you are game then bring it. Throw down your rod. I will also throw down my rod and perhaps we will work hard in the effort to understand one another.
Chris Jones wrote: “We are both Americans, correct?”
I’m an American.
Chris Jones wrote: “We ( whether you agree) are in this together, we have to figure it out together.”
I’ve heard that concept before recently. Then as now I find the sentiment wanting. During the times of my people’s greatest troubles in this country, the kind-hearted among you were nowhere to be found. In the end we are always alone in the fight. 
Chris Jones wrote: “Its ironic that I care enough about Black lives to want Black folk to not gave to live in more fear from police or rioters.”
Do you?
Chris Jones wrote: “Its bad enough as it is, you want more police running around in tanks and seat gear? I don't.”
Did I say that I wanted that? What gave you the impression that I did? Should the same weird and insulting attitude that directed that comment towards me cause me to actually believe you don’t want that? Please explain. 
Chris Jones - In addition Mr. Rasheed. I think I need to add that I'm a fairly uneducated man ( my sentence structure shows that) but you seem an intelligent guy. So let me ask you one question.Did you ever think to yourself, that this is what " they" wanted? 
Muhammad Rasheed - "This" being what exactly? 
Chris Jones - Since we are strangers. I would ask a mutual acquaintance about my motives.
You insulted an entire race by assuming " they" all were against equality. I simply wanted to explain a possible motive for their thinking other than being racist or uncaring.You are welcome to ask about me or my motives. I spend everyday trying to level the playing field and due to these riots, inner city Baltimore schools are shut down. How's that progress?
Chris Jones - Watch how much the police budget grows and the public school budget shrinks now.You and the mutual friends we share hold sway among young men and I ask that you show them the right way. You all are intelligent, articulate, stand up men and young black men look to you all for guidance. 
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Jones wrote: “Since we are strangers. I would ask a mutual acquaintance about my motives.”
No thank you. I’m not hiring right now.
Chris Jones wrote: “You insulted an entire race by assuming " they" all were against equality.”
Tell me why you assumed that “they” referred to “the entire white race,” instead of just those members of that race (& friends) who subscribed to the ideology that I am arguing against, please. 
Chris Jones wrote: “I simply wanted to explain a possible motive for their thinking other than being racist or uncaring.”
Go for it. I’m listening. Be prepared to defend the position should I disagree. 
Chris Jones wrote: “You are welcome to ask about me or my motives.”
I am genuinely uninterested. Perhaps during our discussion it will actually become relevant to make a real point. Until then you may hold it in reserve.
Chris Jones wrote: “I spend everyday trying to level the playing field and due to these riots, inner city Baltimore schools are shut down. How's that progress?”
I agree that it is indeed a tragedy that any amount of progress needs to be set back because of the fundamental unfairness in society acting against the black people like a ticking time bomb. Naturally, I would consider working to find the root cause of the over-all issue, solving THAT problem, and them all the babystep band-aid progresses won’t be so easily swept aside. They will then become icing upon the cake of True Progress.
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Jones wrote: “Watch how much the police budget grows and the public school budget shrinks now.”
I’m pretty sure it’s been doing that dance for a while now.
Chris Jones wrote: “You and the mutual friends we share hold sway among young men and I ask that you show them the right way. You all are intelligent, articulate, stand up men and young black men look to you all for guidance.”
I’m interested in zeroing in on programs that empower the youth economically to enable them to live great lives leaving poverty far behind. I would like to support those programs that have been proven to do so most efficiently.
Chris Jones - My friend has several groups in the works where I'm from. Everything from a gentlemen's academy for disadvantaged young black men, to a " hoods to the woods" hiking/camping mentorship program. Picking up a charge for vandalism or assault during a riot can't help the fight for equality. Just my opinion though. I appreciate the dialogue and meant no disrespect. Just trying to gain a better understanding of how my neighbors think and feel. 
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Jones wrote: "Picking up a charge for vandalism or assault durig a riot can't help the fight for equality."
It turns out that getting shot because you wore a sweater with a hood on it to buy candy while black and consequently pissing off the community when the asshole that pulled the trigger walks isn't good for the fight for equality either. 
Chris, putting the attention on the effects instead of the cause will never win my support ever. When Party A oppresses and attacks Party B until the latter finally snaps, whining as to how can we stop Party B from snapping when frustrated, instead of directing ALL attention towards the root cause, is what my ideological enemy sounds like.
Muhammad Rasheed - I'm surprised you didn't challenge my "always alone in the fight" comment with the abolitionists and similar folk. 
Chris Jones - I've never attacked any party and the fact that you make it about party A and party B.Is why the change has yet to come around.Is every cop white? Is every cop a bad guy?Do these aholes want black folk to riot in their own neighborhoods bringing more destruction and mayhem? Do they want to show certain pictures and label an entire demographic as " bad" or I've even heard rioters being revered to as "animals". WTH is that? You win your cause through people that are compassionate to your plight nit through fear. Look at those people in blue. That's their thing. Not ours( my bad, yours I guess).By the way canbabis prohibition puts young black men in to the cycle of prisons more rapidly than most anything else and I fight everyday to change that. So how's my ideology that different, other than some misplaced hate? 
Muhammad Rasheed - It would seem that your bottomline is that if only black people would act right whites would finally accept them and all of these bad times would be behind us. If this were true then we wouldn't even be having this discussion. 
Chris Jones - Wrong assumption again.I just wanted you to get another perspective I ain't trying to make an enemy ( I have plenty already) just giving you an unbiased opinion. Not need to sweat it, the white politicians and police I talk to about these things seem to get offended also. 
Muhammad Rasheed - EVERYONE'S opinion is biased, Chris. 
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Jones wrote: "Wrong assumption again."
How was it wrong, and what was the other one that was wrong? 
Muhammad Rasheed - Here's the things you said that actually offended me:
1.) When you suggested that I wanted the people to riot and get beat up by military-police forces.
2.) Your weird and nigh-continuous assumption that I mean EVERY white person and EVERY cop is my enemy. I noticed that you've failed to explain how you've come to this assumption. Are you chalking it up to your lack of a formal education? 
Chris Jones - I love a good debate Mr. Rasheed but I don't think this is going anywhere. I also think I might be the wrong guy to take on this argument in order to make a point. If ok. I'm going to try and have someone else make this point from a different vantage point. I don't think mine holds enough weight unfortunately.It was a good chat though. You kept me on defense and a good defense is the best offense. 
Muhammad Rasheed - The actual quote is "A good offense is the best defense." It doesn't work the same way when it is flipped backwards, Chris. 
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Jones wrote: "I love a good debate Mr. Rasheed but I don't think this is going anywhere."
I'll assume you feel that way because you failed to sway me to your side? You're right, your point didn't hold any weight to me, and the less so when you made the claim that your opinion was unbiased.  In fact, you may add that to the list of things you said that offended me.
Chris Jones - You condoned it and as a man. Black or White I think you should have spoke against it. You said they as in white folk. And due to the fact I get called a racist for having a differing oponion and because of my skin pigment daily. I took offense and thought I may help since I might represent another demographic that doesn't wish ill will on another man. I just wanted to stress that there are better ways.Sorry if my assumption offended you and I hope through all my weirdness we've gained more understanding.
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Jones wrote: "You condoned it and as a man. Black or White I think you should have spoke against it."
I don't believe in speaking against the symptoms of a problem. That would be a complete waste of my time. I believe in addressing the root cause. The symptoms, you will find, will vanish away like magic.
Chris Jones wrote: "You said they as in white folk."
lol I said "they" as in the specific sub-group that believe in the ideology I'm arguing against. Tell me why that means that I'm automatically talking about all white people. I find it odd and suspicious that someone claiming not to be a racist would continuously INSIST that is what I mean. Curious.
Chris Jones wrote: "I just wanted to stress that there are better ways."
Better ways of releasing frustration than rioting? There's always a better way. If you somehow think that these frustrated people will listen to me and stop erupting in violence after dealing with their societal wrongs for so long because M. Rasheed told them to, you are very mistaken.
Chris Jones wrote: "Sorry if my assumption offended you and I hope through all my weirdness we've gained more understanding."
I've gained zero understanding from our dialog. You seemed to make it a point to deliberately avoid all of my questions formulated precisely so that I WOULD gain understanding. How am I to understand you if you don't answer my questions?
Chris Jones - Mr. Rasheed. No disrespect intended. If you could take just a minute to watch this video I just posted it may help clear up what point I couldn't make.
Muhammad Rasheed - I'm at work right now.  What does it say?
Chris Jones - Sorry man. It was just a different perspective of a young man from Baltimore.Just real talk. Talk is what brings about change.
Muhammad Rasheed - I have a fundamental issue with anyone making the claim that it is the blacks who must do all the changing in order for people to stop oppressing them.  The people who think that are unaware of the history of the two groups in this country.
Again I'm not interested in the opinion that we need to tackle the symptoms of the problem in order for the problem to go away.  That never works for any kind of illness.  Ever.  That certainly includes societal ills.
Sum up the kid's point for me, please.  What is his message?
If his message is "We shouldn't be rioting, y'all.  There has to be a better way." then tell me what that has to do with anything?  How is watching that clip helping me in any possible way?
Chris Jones - Sorry to bother you and I appreciate your taking the time to chat with me.

What Do You Do When Given Your Heart's Desire?

Muhammad Rasheed - Regarding the complaints over the perceived lameness of undercard attached to the super fight on 02 May, it's 100% up to the fighters themselves to make that undercard great based on how they choose to perform. With the whole world watching, if the undercard sucks it will be their fault, not the fault of the promoters who gave them that shot on the world stage.

If YOU were given this opportunity what would YOU do?


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