Bhakti Vikasa Swami's Blog, page 359
January 29, 2012
well-rounded point of view
Amogha: Usually in modern education they have the idea called "well-rounded
point of view." They want to take some from here, from there, from that one
and that one, that one, and then think about them all, and come up with a
conclusion. So he is thinking it doesn't fit with their pattern of
reasoning, how we take from one source and get the proper conclusion. They
think they have to get from many sources and compare.
Prabhupada: How… I can reply that if you want to know who is your father,
then you will have to take the knowledge from many sources, by votes, that
who is your father?
Dr. Copeland: (laughing) It's not the same thing.
Prabhupada: Now he says, "not the same." You cannot offer reason. You have
to take from one source, from the mother. That's all. You cannot take votes,
"Can you say who is my father?" He will say this… He'll say, "He is your
father." No, it is not the way. The way is to take the information from the
right source, not take the votes of rascals and fools. That is not the way.
One source. Even from scientific point of view, mathematics, "two plus two
equal to four," you have to take from one source. Any mathematician will say
like that. Nobody will say, "No, two plus two equal to five." "No, two plus
two equal to three." Nobody will say. "Two plus two equal to four," everyone
will say. This is not the way of securing knowledge, from here, there…
Caitanya Mahaprabhu did not approve. And our Krsna, He said, imam rajarsayo
viduh, evam parampara-praptam [Bg. 4.2]. That is the recommendation. And
because that source is now missing, therefore it is lost. This process of
knowledge, that we take knowledge from anyone and everyone, his opinion,
what is that?
Not that everyone is in knowledge, but everyone can give his opinion. That
is a different thing.
Dr. Copeland: That was my point, only that. Everybody should have an
opinion.
Prabhupada: Everyone has got his opinion, that is different thing. But not
that everyone has got the knowledge.
Dr. Copeland: Well, that's why we come to you, for knowledge.
Prabhupada: Yes, yes.
Dr. Copeland: But I come to you for knowledge, and then I go to other people
for knowledge too.
Prabhupada: That you go, but if you want real, right knowledge, then you
must approach the man who knows right, not that you find out anyone and
everyone and find out.
>>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of
Modern Indian History — May 20, 1975, Melbourne
point of view." They want to take some from here, from there, from that one
and that one, that one, and then think about them all, and come up with a
conclusion. So he is thinking it doesn't fit with their pattern of
reasoning, how we take from one source and get the proper conclusion. They
think they have to get from many sources and compare.
Prabhupada: How… I can reply that if you want to know who is your father,
then you will have to take the knowledge from many sources, by votes, that
who is your father?
Dr. Copeland: (laughing) It's not the same thing.
Prabhupada: Now he says, "not the same." You cannot offer reason. You have
to take from one source, from the mother. That's all. You cannot take votes,
"Can you say who is my father?" He will say this… He'll say, "He is your
father." No, it is not the way. The way is to take the information from the
right source, not take the votes of rascals and fools. That is not the way.
One source. Even from scientific point of view, mathematics, "two plus two
equal to four," you have to take from one source. Any mathematician will say
like that. Nobody will say, "No, two plus two equal to five." "No, two plus
two equal to three." Nobody will say. "Two plus two equal to four," everyone
will say. This is not the way of securing knowledge, from here, there…
Caitanya Mahaprabhu did not approve. And our Krsna, He said, imam rajarsayo
viduh, evam parampara-praptam [Bg. 4.2]. That is the recommendation. And
because that source is now missing, therefore it is lost. This process of
knowledge, that we take knowledge from anyone and everyone, his opinion,
what is that?
Not that everyone is in knowledge, but everyone can give his opinion. That
is a different thing.
Dr. Copeland: That was my point, only that. Everybody should have an
opinion.
Prabhupada: Everyone has got his opinion, that is different thing. But not
that everyone has got the knowledge.
Dr. Copeland: Well, that's why we come to you, for knowledge.
Prabhupada: Yes, yes.
Dr. Copeland: But I come to you for knowledge, and then I go to other people
for knowledge too.
Prabhupada: That you go, but if you want real, right knowledge, then you
must approach the man who knows right, not that you find out anyone and
everyone and find out.
>>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of
Modern Indian History — May 20, 1975, Melbourne
January 28, 2012
seeing by the light of the sun
Seeing in the darkness is not seeing. But seeing by the light of the sun
means to see the sun and everything else which was unseen in the darkness.
That is the way of devotional service.
>>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 1.8.43
means to see the sun and everything else which was unseen in the darkness.
That is the way of devotional service.
>>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 1.8.43
January 27, 2012
Only a brahmacari can understand Gita-govinda
One Sanskrit student asked, "How can a brahmacari be expected to understand
the Gita-govinda, since it deals in so many intricacies of man-woman
relationships and love affairs?"
Srila Prabhupada replied, "Only a brahmacari can understand Gita-govinda,
because it is not about mundane sexuality. It is the highest spiritual
technology of Radha and Krsna."
From Srila Prabhupada-lila, SPL 7-3: A Visit to Boston, 1968, by SDG
the Gita-govinda, since it deals in so many intricacies of man-woman
relationships and love affairs?"
Srila Prabhupada replied, "Only a brahmacari can understand Gita-govinda,
because it is not about mundane sexuality. It is the highest spiritual
technology of Radha and Krsna."
From Srila Prabhupada-lila, SPL 7-3: A Visit to Boston, 1968, by SDG
Better Worship Indra than Krishna, If…
Question:
Maharaj, you posted a following quote of Srila Prabhupada with a title "Better worship Indra than Krsna, if…" on your regular BVKS Sanga Mail group.
Those who are too much lusty, lover of the vagina, they may worship Indra. This is the recommendation. Everything is there. If you want vagina instead of Krsna, all right, do it. You have it. So unfortunately, if our student falls a victim of vagina instead of Krsna, that is very regrettable. Then better he worship, instead of Krsna, let him worship Indra.
>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.1-3 — Los Angeles, May 22, 1972
[End of quote]
Srila Prabhupada writes in the purport of Srimad Bhagavatam (SB 3.21.15),
Kardama Muni could have asked his benediction from Uma, for it is recommended in the scriptures that if anyone wants a good wife, he should worship Uma. But he preferred to worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead because it is recommended in the Bhagavatam that everyone, whether he is full of desires, has no desire or desires liberation, should worship the Supreme Lord. Of these three classes of men, one tries to be happy by fulfillment of material desires, another wants to be happy by becoming one with the Supreme, and another, the perfect man, is a devotee. He does not want anything in return from the Personality of Godhead; he only wants to render transcendental loving service. In any case, everyone should worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, for He will fulfill everyone's desire. The advantage of worshiping the Supreme Person is that even if one has desires for material enjoyment, if he worships Krsna he will gradually become a pure devotee and have no more material hankering.
[End of quote]
How do we understand this apparent contradiction?
Download Better Worship Indra than Krishna, If...
Maharaj, you posted a following quote of Srila Prabhupada with a title "Better worship Indra than Krsna, if…" on your regular BVKS Sanga Mail group.
Those who are too much lusty, lover of the vagina, they may worship Indra. This is the recommendation. Everything is there. If you want vagina instead of Krsna, all right, do it. You have it. So unfortunately, if our student falls a victim of vagina instead of Krsna, that is very regrettable. Then better he worship, instead of Krsna, let him worship Indra.
>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.1-3 — Los Angeles, May 22, 1972
[End of quote]
Srila Prabhupada writes in the purport of Srimad Bhagavatam (SB 3.21.15),
Kardama Muni could have asked his benediction from Uma, for it is recommended in the scriptures that if anyone wants a good wife, he should worship Uma. But he preferred to worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead because it is recommended in the Bhagavatam that everyone, whether he is full of desires, has no desire or desires liberation, should worship the Supreme Lord. Of these three classes of men, one tries to be happy by fulfillment of material desires, another wants to be happy by becoming one with the Supreme, and another, the perfect man, is a devotee. He does not want anything in return from the Personality of Godhead; he only wants to render transcendental loving service. In any case, everyone should worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, for He will fulfill everyone's desire. The advantage of worshiping the Supreme Person is that even if one has desires for material enjoyment, if he worships Krsna he will gradually become a pure devotee and have no more material hankering.
[End of quote]
How do we understand this apparent contradiction?
Download Better Worship Indra than Krishna, If...
