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Marcela Ot’alora — How to Become a Psychedelic Therapist (#396)

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Photo by Travis Lilley (@travislilleyphoto)

“The only way to not be afraid of someone’s suffering is if you’re not afraid of your own.”

— Marcela Ot’alora G.

Marcela Ot’alora G. is a psychotherapist and an installation artist. Her interest and focus on trauma has led her to understand the healing process as an intimate reconnection with one’s essence through love, integrity, acceptance, and honoring of the human spirit. In addition to working with trauma and PTSD, she has dedicated her professional life to teaching and research. She uses art as a vehicle for deepening the relationship to self, others, and the natural world.

Marcela worked as a co-therapist in MAPS’ very first government regulated MDMA-assisted psychotherapy study in Madrid, Spain. She served as the principal investigator for MAPS’ phase two MDMA-assisted psychotherapy study, and is currently in the MDMA healthy volunteer study and phase three in Boulder, Colorado.

She is also a trainer and supervisor for therapists working on MAPS studies for MDMA-assisted psychotherapy.

You can find additional resources from this episode in the show notes below. They are also separately curated on this page: tim.blog/therapyresources.

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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Listen to it on Apple Podcasts.
Stream by clicking here.
Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”

This episode is brought to you by Ring. You might already know about its smart video doorbells and cameras that protect millions of people everywhere. Ring helps you stay connected to your home from anywhere in the world. So if there’s a package delivery or a surprise visitor, you’ll get an alert and be able to see, hear, and speak to whoever is at your door—all from your phone. Ring’s core mission is to make neighborhoods safer.

I’ve used Ring for years now. It catches and records all the regular stuff like deliveries and so on, but it’s also saved my ass a few times, catching weirdos and weird things. Ring is key to my peace of mind, and as a listener of The Tim Ferriss Show, you can get a special rate for your own Ring Welcome Kit — which includes a video doorbell and a Chime Pro — by going to Ring.com/Tim. (U.S. Only).

This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep. I recently moved into a new home and needed new beds, and I purchased mattresses from Helix Sleep. It offers mattresses personalized to your preferences and sleeping style without costing thousands of dollars. Visit HelixSleep.com/TIM and take the simple 2-3 minute sleep quiz to get started, and the team there will build a mattress you’ll love.

Their customer service makes all the difference. The mattress arrives within a week, and the shipping is completely free. You can try the mattress for 100 nights, and if you’re not happy, it’ll pick it up and offer a full refund. To personalize your sleep experience, visit HelixSleep.com/TIM and you’ll receive up to $125 off your custom mattress.

Want to hear another episode about the future of psychedelic science? — Listen to this panel I moderated in front of a standing-room-only crowd at the Milken Institute’s Global Conference 2019. It includes a great overview of psychedelic science, investing opportunities, anecdotal personal benefits, legal challenges, and much more. (Stream below or right-click here to download.)

#377: Psychedelics — Microdosing, Mind-Enhancing Methods, and Morehttps://rss.art19.com/episodes/7fd077cc-c8f5-4dfc-b87a-46933d9769bd.mp3Download

QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SCROLL BELOW FOR LINKS AND SHOW NOTES…

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Connect with Marcela Ot’alora G.:

Website

Extensive Psychedelic Therapist Training Resources and Recommended Reading (Also available later on this page.) 
MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies)
Books by Tim Ferriss
History of The Modern Fire Truck, DriveZing
How Medellin Went from Murder Capital to Hipster Holiday Destination, The Telegraph
15 Fun Facts About Dick and Jane, Mental Floss
Is Ecstasy Really That Dangerous? All Your Questions Answered, The Guardian
Schizophrenia Symptoms and Causes, The Mayo Clinic
The Arhuacos
The Healing Journey: Pioneering Approaches to Psychedelic Therapy by Claudio Naranjo
IFS (Internal Family Systems)
What is the Hakomi Method? Hakomi Institute
About Holotropic Breathwork, Grof Transpersonal Training
Training Protocol for MDMA-Assisted Psychotherapy Researchers (Open Label Phase 1 Study), MAPS
Ketamine, Wikipedia
Veterans Try Alternative Treatments from Yoga to Marijuana, News 21
The Basics of Becoming a State Licensed Therapist, Good Therapy
Zendo Project
Burning Man
Trip of Compassion
LSD (Lysergic Acid Diethylamide), Wikipedia
All 169 Seinfeld Episodes, Ranked From Worst to Best, Vulture
Chia Pets
Clinician-Administered PTSD Scale for DSM-5 (CAPS-5), National Center for PTSD
Psychedelic-Assisted Therapies and Research Certificate, CIIS
Already Free: Buddhism Meets Psychotherapy on the Path of Liberation by Bruce Tift
Bad Science: Quacks, Hacks, and Big Pharma Flacks by Ben Goldacre
Studying Studies by Peter Attia, MD

SHOW NOTES

Marcela shares her childhood dreams of growing up to be a fire truck while playing cards with the inmates at the mental health hospital where her mother worked — the place she felt safest in violence-torn Medellín, Colombia. [09:03]
After arriving in the United States, how did Marcela’s interest in psychedelic therapy begin? [12:50]
What happened in the days and weeks following her first breakthrough MDMA experience with MAPS founder Rick Doblin? What made her own experiences so powerful, and how, specifically, did she believe MDMA could be of help to others? [18:26]
Influences outside of Rick and MAPS that have shaped Marcela’s approach to becoming the therapist she is today. [23:01]
Interested in becoming a psychedelic therapist? Here’s some advice from Marcela (and a link to a page of resources to guide you). [27:02]
What is the WAIT acronym, and why should therapists always keep it in mind? [32:23]
We touch on Hakomi therapy and other modalities that translate well into MDMA psychotherapy, and Marcela explains how communicating with parts of ourselves in non-ordinary states can differ depending on how they’re approached. [33:49]
What is the MT-1 study, and how does it help aspiring psychedelic therapists train for what they can expect in sessions ahead by using MDMA and alternative methods of reaching non-ordinary states such as holotropic breathwork and yoga? [36:29]
What are the qualification checkboxes needed if one wants to become a psychedelic therapist within the structure of current legal restrictions, and how does Marcela feel about where the FDA is leaning in negotiations over licensing? [39:41]
Before committing to years of academic work (and funding) to secure a PhD in psychology, how might someone get a basic feel for what psychedelic therapy work entails? [45:30]
A realistic look at just how difficult and un-sexy psychedelic therapy work can be. [49:38]
The therapist can’t rely on the medicine to carry the session. He or she needs to be prepared if things don’t go according to plan in order to make sure the situation doesn’t actually worsen the condition being treated. [53:49]
What other worries does Marcela have looking forward as things continue to become more popular and more people hope to become involved in psychedelic therapy to some capacity? What questions still need to be answered? [58:14]
What is the role of the therapist when a subject is so inner-directed that they’re silent throughout the entire session? [1:00:23]
As a therapist, what does Marcela remember as her hardest sessions, and what made them so difficult? [1:03:02]
What does preparation look like for a session directed under MAPS protocol? What are the rules that must be followed once a session has begun, and how might a therapist deal with someone in a non-ordinary state who no longer wants to comply with these rules? [1:04:46]
How is psychedelic therapy like alchemy — especially when trying to help someone work with their own overwhelming feelings of self-judgment? [1:09:16]
In Marcela’s experience, what separates a good psychedelic therapist from a great psychedelic therapist? [1:11:02]
In order to ensure the subject’s treatment isn’t somehow contaminated by external factors, where does the psychedelic therapist draw the line between self-disclosure and professional distance? [1:14:56]
What are the rules of engagement when Marcela and her co-therapist (who also happens to be her husband) have a disagreement during a session? What might cause such a disagreement, and how has it affected the outcome when it has happened? [1:17:01]
How many preparatory sessions lead up to an eight-hour MDMA session, what is their duration, and how many/how long are the post sessions that exit the experience? [1:19:22]
Just to alleviate the misconception some might have about MDMA being a quick and painless fix for what ails you: trauma hurts whether it’s coming or going. Expect hard work and no small amount of suffering. [1:20:47]
Where can people learn more about the options that are available for exploring this work and understanding what’s involved? (Find the big list here.) [1:24:14]
“Science is an organized kind of wonder.” Marcela’s work is informed as much by poetry, art, and imagery as it is by science. Here’s a short list of reading we both recommend (the much longer list can be found here). [1:30:08]
Parting thoughts. [1:36:58]


Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy (Resources)


Training Resources

Individuals interested in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy and research can visit the MAPS Public Benefit Corp Therapy Training webpage to sign up for the training newsletter to receive updates on training opportunities and view application procedures and requirements for the MDMA Therapy Training Program.

The MAPS PBC Therapy Provider Connect Portal is a community discussion forum for therapy providers, physicians, and facilities to connect with one another to develop a site or treatment staff, in order to become eligible to participate in a MAPS Public Benefit Corp MDMA PTSD protocol.

Another training opportunity for practitioners interested in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy is the CIIS Psychedelic-Assisted Therapies and Research Certificate. Additionally, there are alternative therapeutic approaches available now that can be complementary to psychedelic-assisted therapy, such as Internal Family Systems, Holotropic Breathwork, Hakomi, and Somatic Experiencing.

Other useful experiences on the path to becoming a psychedelic therapist may include volunteering to provide psychedelic peer harm reduction through the Zendo Project, opportunities to work with the individuals at the end of life as a chaplain or death doula, mediating peer support groups, or supporting individuals impacted by trauma.

Information for students interested in the field of psychedelic therapy and research can be found on the MAPS website.

Recommended Reading List

The Way of the Psychonaut: Encyclopedia for Inner Journeys (Volume One) and (Volume Two) by Stan Grof

The Cosmic Game: Explorations of the Frontiers of Human Consciousness by Stan Grof

Beyond the Brain: Birth, Death, and Transcendence in Psychotherapy by Stan Grof

Consciousness Medicine: Indigenous Wisdom, Entheogens, and Expanded States of Consciousness for Healing and Growth by Françoise Bourzat and Kristina Hunter

The Ethics of Caring: Honoring the Web of Life in Our Professional Healing Relationships by Kylea Taylor

The Healing Journey: Pioneering Approaches to Psychedelic Therapy by Claudio Naranjo

War and the Soul: Healing Our Nation’s Veterans from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder by Edward Tick

Radical Acceptance: Embracing Your Life With the Heart of a Buddha by Tara Brach

A Path with Heart: A Guide Through the Perils and Promises of Spiritual Life by Jack Kornfield

The Art of Forgiveness, Lovingkindness, and Peace by Jack Kornfield

Trauma Stewardship: An Everyday Guide to Caring for Self While Caring for Others by Laura van Dernoot Lipsky and Connie Burk

The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment by Eckhart Tolle

From Fixation to Freedom: The Enneagram of Liberation by Eli Jaxon-Bear

Essential Enneagram: The Definitive Personality Test and Self-Discovery Guide by David Daniels and Virginia Price

Doing Not Doing: A Facilitator’s Guide by Tav Sparks

The Places that Scare You: A Guide to Fearlessness in Difficult Times by Pema Chodron

Trauma and Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence — from Domestic Abuse to Political Terror by Judith Herman

Body-Centered Psychotherapy by Ron Kurtz

The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk

Soulcollage: An Intuitive Collage Process for Individuals and Groups by Seena B. Frost

Dictionary of Symbolism: Cultural Icons and the Meanings Behind Them by Hans Biedermann

The Four-Fold Way: Walking the Paths of the Warrior, Teacher, Healer, and Visionary by Angeles Arrien

The Transforming Power Of Affect: A Model For Accelerated Change by Diana Fosha

Right Use Of Power: The Heart of Ethics by Cedar Barstow

The End of Your World: Uncensored Straight Talk on the Nature of Enlightenment by Adyashanti

In an Unspoken Voice: How the Body Releases Trauma and Restores Goodness by Peter A. Levine

The Inner World of Trauma by Donald Kalsched

Confrontation with the Unconscious: Jungian Depth Psychology and Psychedelic Experience by Scott J. Hill

Additional Reading Focused on Cultural Trauma and Culturally Informed Care

Toward Psychologies of Liberation by Mary Watkins and Helene Schulman

My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Resmaa Menakem

Embodied Social Justice by Rae Johnson

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America’s Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing by Joy DeGruy

Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love, and Liberation by Angel Kyodo Williams, Lama Rod Owens, and Jasmine Syedullah

The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander

White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism by Robin DiAngelo

What Does It Mean to Be White?: Developing White Racial Literacy by Robin DiAngelo

Towards Collective Liberation: Anti-Racist Organizing, Feminist Praxis, and Movement Building Strategy by Chris Crass

The Way of Tenderness: Awakening through Race, Sexuality, and Gender by Zenju Earthlyn Manuel

Marcela Ot’alora — The Art and Science of Psychedelic Therapy and Healing (#396)

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Photo by Travis Lilley (@travislilleyphoto)

“The only way to not be afraid of someone’s suffering is if you’re not afraid of your own.”

— Marcela Ot’alora G.

Marcela Ot’alora G. is a psychotherapist and an installation artist. Her interest and focus on trauma has led her to understand the healing process as an intimate reconnection with one’s essence through love, integrity, acceptance, and honoring of the human spirit. In addition to working with trauma and PTSD, she has dedicated her professional life to teaching and research. She uses art as a vehicle for deepening the relationship to self, others, and the natural world.

Marcela worked as a co-therapist in MAPS’ very first government regulated MDMA-assisted psychotherapy study in Madrid, Spain. She served as the principal investigator for MAPS’ phase two MDMA-assisted psychotherapy study, and is currently in the MDMDA healthy volunteer study and phase three in Boulder, Colorado.

She is also a trainer and supervisor for therapists working on MAPS studies for MDMA-assisted psychotherapy.

You can find additional resources from this episode in the show notes below. They are also separately curated on this page: tim.blog/therapyresources.

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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https://rss.art19.com/episodes/354d9d1f-92b9-469c-8c1d-86191c8b8e6b.mp3Download

Listen to it on Apple Podcasts.
Stream by clicking here.
Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”

This episode is brought to you by Ring. You might already know about its smart video doorbells and cameras that protect millions of people everywhere. Ring helps you stay connected to your home from anywhere in the world. So if there’s a package delivery or a surprise visitor, you’ll get an alert and be able to see, hear, and speak to whoever is at your door—all from your phone. Ring’s core mission is to make neighborhoods safer.

I’ve used Ring for years now. It catches and records all the regular stuff like deliveries and so on, but it’s also saved my ass a few times, catching weirdos and weird things. Ring is key to my peace of mind, and as a listener of The Tim Ferriss Show, you can get a special rate for your own Ring Welcome Kit — which includes a video doorbell and a Chime Pro — by going to Ring.com/Tim. (U.S. Only).

This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep. I recently moved into a new home and needed new beds, and I purchased mattresses from Helix Sleep. It offers mattresses personalized to your preferences and sleeping style without costing thousands of dollars. Visit HelixSleep.com/TIM and take the simple 2-3 minute sleep quiz to get started, and the team there will build a mattress you’ll love.

Their customer service makes all the difference. The mattress arrives within a week, and the shipping is completely free. You can try the mattress for 100 nights, and if you’re not happy, it’ll pick it up and offer a full refund. To personalize your sleep experience, visit HelixSleep.com/TIM and you’ll receive up to $125 off your custom mattress.

Want to hear another episode about the future of psychedelic science? — Listen to this panel I moderated in front of a standing-room-only crowd at the Milken Institute’s Global Conference 2019. It includes a great overview of psychedelic science, investing opportunities, anecdotal personal benefits, legal challenges, and much more. (Stream below or right-click here to download.)

#377: Psychedelics — Microdosing, Mind-Enhancing Methods, and Morehttps://rss.art19.com/episodes/7fd077cc-c8f5-4dfc-b87a-46933d9769bd.mp3Download

QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SCROLL BELOW FOR LINKS AND SHOW NOTES…

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Connect with Marcela Ot’alora G.:

Website

Extensive Psychedelic Therapist Training Resources and Recommended Reading (Also available later on this page.) 
MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies)
Books by Tim Ferriss
History of The Modern Fire Truck, DriveZing
How Medellin Went from Murder Capital to Hipster Holiday Destination, The Telegraph
15 Fun Facts About Dick and Jane, Mental Floss
Is Ecstasy Really That Dangerous? All Your Questions Answered, The Guardian
Schizophrenia Symptoms and Causes, The Mayo Clinic
The Arhuacos
The Healing Journey: Pioneering Approaches to Psychedelic Therapy by Claudio Naranjo
IFS (Internal Family Systems)
What is the Hakomi Method? Hakomi Institute
About Holotropic Breathwork, Grof Transpersonal Training
Training Protocol for MDMA-Assisted Psychotherapy Researchers (Open Label Phase 1 Study), MAPS
Ketamine, Wikipedia
Veterans Try Alternative Treatments from Yoga to Marijuana, News 21
The Basics of Becoming a State Licensed Therapist, Good Therapy
Zendo Project
Burning Man
Trip of Compassion
LSD (Lysergic Acid Diethylamide), Wikipedia
All 169 Seinfeld Episodes, Ranked From Worst to Best, Vulture
Chia Pets
Clinician-Administered PTSD Scale for DSM-5 (CAPS-5), National Center for PTSD
Psychedelic-Assisted Therapies and Research Certificate, CIIS
Already Free: Buddhism Meets Psychotherapy on the Path of Liberation by Bruce Tift
Bad Science: Quacks, Hacks, and Big Pharma Flacks by Ben Goldacre
Studying Studies by Peter Attia, MD

SHOW NOTES

Timestamps will be added shortly. 

Marcela shares her childhood dreams of growing up to be a fire truck while playing cards with the inmates at the mental health hospital where her mother worked — the place she felt safest in violence-torn Medellín, Colombia.
After arriving in the United States, how did Marcela’s interest in psychedelic therapy begin?
What happened in the days and weeks following her first breakthrough MDMA experience with MAPS founder Rick Doblin? What made her own experiences so powerful, and how, specifically, did she believe MDMA could be of help to others?
Influences outside of Rick and MAPS that have shaped Marcela’s approach to becoming the therapist she is today.
Interested in becoming a psychedelic therapist? Here’s some advice from Marcela (and a link to a page of resources to guide you).
What is the WAIT acronym, and why should therapists always keep it in mind?
We touch on Hakomi therapy and Marcela explains how communicating with parts of ourselves in non-ordinary states can differ.
What is the MT-1 study, and how does it help aspiring psychedelic therapists train for what they can expect in sessions ahead?
What are the qualification checkboxes needed if one wants to become a psychedelic therapist within the structure of current legal restrictions, and how does Marcela feel about where the FDA is leaning in negotiations over licensing?
Before committing to years of academic work (and funding) to secure a PhD in psychology, how might someone get a basic feel for what psychedelic therapy work entails?
A realistic look at just how difficult and un-sexy psychedelic therapy work can be.
The therapist can’t rely on the medicine to carry the session. He or she needs to be prepared if things don’t go according to plan in order to make sure the situation doesn’t actually worsen the condition being treated.
What other worries does Marcela have looking forward as things continue to become more popular and more people hope to become involved in psychedelic therapy to some capacity? What questions still need to be answered?
What is the role of the therapist when a subject is so inner-directed that they’re silent throughout the entire session?
What does Marcela remember as her hardest sessions, and what made them so difficult?
What does preparation look like for a session directed under MAPS protocol? What are the rules that must be followed once a session has begun, and how might a therapist deal with someone in a non-ordinary state who no longer wants to comply with these rules?
How is psychedelic therapy like alchemy — especially when trying to help someone work with their own overwhelming feelings of self-judgment?
In Marcela’s experience, what separates a good psychedelic therapist from a great psychedelic therapist?
In order to ensure the subject’s treatment isn’t somehow contaminated by external factors, where does the psychedelic therapist draw the line between self-disclosure and professional distance?
What are the rules of engagement when Marcela and her co-therapist (who also happens to be her husband) have a disagreement during a session? What might cause such a disagreement, and how has it affected the outcome when it has happened?
How long does each preparatory and post session last?
How many preparatory sessions lead up to an eight-hour MDMA session, what is their duration, and how many/how long are the post sessions that exit the experience?
Just to alleviate the misconception some might have about MDMA being a quick and painless fix for what ails you: trauma hurts whether it’s coming or going. Expect hard work and no small amount of suffering.
Where can people learn more about the options that are available for exploring this work and understanding what’s involved? (Find the big list here.)
“Science is an organized kind of wonder.” Marcela’s work is informed as much by poetry, art, and imagery as it is by science. Here’s a short list of reading we both recommend (the much longer list can be found here).
Parting thoughts.

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Jack Welch
Molly
Rick Doblin
Claudio Naranjo
Agnes Martin
Michael Mithoefer
Annie Mithoefer
Dick Schwartz
Liana Sananda Gillooly

Raphael
Michelangelo
Bruce Poulter
Stan Grof
Bruce Tift
Octavio Paz
Pablo Neruda
Isabel Allende
Peter Attia
Ben Goldacre


Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy (Resources)


Training Resources

Individuals interested in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy and research can visit the MAPS Public Benefit Corp Therapy Training webpage to sign up for the training newsletter to receive updates on training opportunities and view application procedures and requirements for the MDMA Therapy Training Program.

The MAPS PBC Therapy Provider Connect Portal is a community discussion forum for therapy providers, physicians, and facilities to connect with one another to develop a site or treatment staff, in order to become eligible to participate in a MAPS Public Benefit Corp MDMA PTSD protocol.

Another training opportunity for practitioners interested in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy is the CIIS Psychedelic-Assisted Therapies and Research Certificate. Additionally, there are alternative therapeutic approaches available now that can be complementary to psychedelic-assisted therapy, such as Internal Family Systems, Holotropic Breathwork, Hakomi, and Somatic Experiencing.

Other useful experiences on the path to becoming a psychedelic therapist may include volunteering to provide psychedelic peer harm reduction through the Zendo Project, opportunities to work with the individuals at the end of life as a chaplain or death doula, mediating peer support groups, or supporting individuals impacted by trauma.

Information for students interested in the field of psychedelic therapy and research can be found on the MAPS website.

Recommended Reading List

The Way of the Psychonaut: Encyclopedia for Inner Journeys (Volume One) and (Volume Two) by Stan Grof

The Cosmic Game: Explorations of the Frontiers of Human Consciousness by Stan Grof

Beyond the Brain: Birth, Death, and Transcendence in Psychotherapy by Stan Grof

Consciousness Medicine: Indigenous Wisdom, Entheogens, and Expanded States of Consciousness for Healing and Growth by Françoise Bourzat and Kristina Hunter

The Ethics of Caring: Honoring the Web of Life in Our Professional Healing Relationships by Kylea Taylor

The Healing Journey: Pioneering Approaches to Psychedelic Therapy by Claudio Naranjo

War and the Soul: Healing Our Nation’s Veterans from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder by Edward Tick

Radical Acceptance: Embracing Your Life With the Heart of a Buddha by Tara Brach

A Path with Heart: A Guide Through the Perils and Promises of Spiritual Life by Jack Kornfield

The Art of Forgiveness, Lovingkindness, and Peace by Jack Kornfield

Trauma Stewardship: An Everyday Guide to Caring for Self While Caring for Others by Laura van Dernoot Lipsky and Connie Burk

The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment by Eckhart Tolle

From Fixation to Freedom: The Enneagram of Liberation by Eli Jaxon-Bear

Essential Enneagram: The Definitive Personality Test and Self-Discovery Guide by David Daniels and Virginia Price

Doing Not Doing: A Facilitator’s Guide by Tav Sparks

The Places that Scare You: A Guide to Fearlessness in Difficult Times by Pema Chodron

Trauma and Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence — from Domestic Abuse to Political Terror by Judith Herman

Body-Centered Psychotherapy by Ron Kurtz

The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk

Soulcollage: An Intuitive Collage Process for Individuals and Groups by Seena B. Frost

Dictionary of Symbolism: Cultural Icons and the Meanings Behind Them by Hans Biedermann

The Four-Fold Way: Walking the Paths of the Warrior, Teacher, Healer, and Visionary by Angeles Arrien

The Transforming Power Of Affect: A Model For Accelerated Change by Diana Fosha

Right Use Of Power: The Heart of Ethics by Cedar Barstow

The End of Your World: Uncensored Straight Talk on the Nature of Enlightenment by Adyashanti

In an Unspoken Voice: How the Body Releases Trauma and Restores Goodness by Peter A. Levine

The Inner World of Trauma by Donald Kalsched

Confrontation with the Unconscious: Jungian Depth Psychology and Psychedelic Experience by Scott J. Hill

Additional Reading Focused on Cultural Trauma and Culturally Informed Care

Toward Psychologies of Liberation by Mary Watkins and Helene Schulman

My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Resmaa Menakem

Embodied Social Justice by Rae Johnson

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America’s Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing by Joy DeGruy

Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love, and Liberation by Angel Kyodo Williams, Lama Rod Owens, and Jasmine Syedullah

The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander

White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism by Robin DiAngelo

What Does It Mean to Be White?: Developing White Racial Literacy by Robin DiAngelo

Towards Collective Liberation: Anti-Racist Organizing, Feminist Praxis, and Movement Building Strategy by Chris Crass

The Way of Tenderness: Awakening through Race, Sexuality, and Gender by Zenju Earthlyn Manuel

Jocko Willink Takeover — On Quitting, Relationships, Financial Discipline, Contrast Baths, and More (#395)

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“You might have to make some tactical retreats in order to win the long war, but never quit on your strategic vision. Never quit on getting to the ultimate place where you want to go.” — Jocko Willink

Jocko Willink (@jockowillink) takes over the show for a special episode. Jocko is one of the scariest human beings imaginable. He is a lean 230 pounds and a Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt who used to tap out 20 Navy SEALs per workout. He is a legend in the special operations world, and his viral podcast interview with me was the first public interview he ever did. Jocko spent 20 years in the U.S. Navy and commanded SEAL Team Three’s Task Unit Bruiser, the most highly decorated special operations unit from the Iraq War. Upon returning to the United States, Jocko served as the officer-in-charge of training for all West Coast SEAL Teams, designing and implementing some of the most challenging and realistic combat training in the world.

After retiring from the Navy, he co-founded Echelon Front, a leadership and management consulting company, and co-authored the #1 New York Times bestseller Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win. He is also the author of The Dichotomy of Leadership, Way of the Warrior Kid, and Discipline Equals Freedom: Field Manual. His new book, Leadership Strategy and Tactics: Field Manual, is coming out in January.

Jocko also discusses human nature through the lens of war, leadership, and business on the top-rated Jocko Podcast.

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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Listen to it on Apple Podcasts.
Stream by clicking here.
Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”

This episode is brought to you by LegalZoom. I’ve used this service for many of my businesses, as have quite a few of the icons on this podcast, such as Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg of WordPress fame.

LegalZoom is a reliable resource that more than a million people have already trusted for everything from setting up wills, proper trademark searches, forming LLCs, setting up non-profits, or finding simple cease-and-desist letter templates.

LegalZoom is not a law firm, but it does have a network of independent attorneys available in most states who can give you advice on the best way to get started, provide contract reviews, and otherwise help you run your business with complete transparency and up-front pricing. Check out LegalZoom.com and enter promo code Tim at checkout today for special savings and see how the fine folks there can make life easier for you and your business.

This episode is also brought to you by LinkedIn. If you’re looking for a job, knowing where to look is the first step toward finding the right fit. LinkedIn has more than 20 million job postings—from software engineer to robotics engineer, project manager to HR manager, or associate attorney to associate veterinarian. LinkedIn also has one of the largest communities to help you connect and network with people who can open doors for you, give you valuable career advice, help you learn new skills, and introduce you to new people at companies and organizations that are hiring and looking for exactly your skill set.

No matter what kind of job you’re looking for, or where you are in your career — whether you’re just starting out and wondering what to do, switching to a new role, or starting over — there are people on LinkedIn who can help you. With more than 20 million jobs posted, there’s a good chance that LinkedIn has exactly what you’re looking for. Find the job meant for you at LinkedIn.com/jobs.

Want to hear the last time Jocko was on this show? — Listen to this episode about the success mindset, how to stop laziness and procrastination, behaviors that lead to failure, exact workouts, training while traveling, and much more. (Stream below or right-click here to download.):

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Connect with Jocko Willink:

Echelon Front | Jocko Podcast | Warrior Kid Podcast | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Leadership Strategy and Tactics: Field Manual by Jocko Willink
Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin
Discipline Equals Freedom: Field Manual by Jocko Willink
The Dichotomy of Leadership: Balancing the Challenges of Extreme Ownership to Lead and Win by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin
Way of the Warrior Kid: From Wimpy to Warrior the Navy SEAL Way: A Novel by Jocko Willink and Jon Bozak
Marc’s Mission: Way of the Warrior Kid (A Novel) by Jocko Willink and Jon Bozak
Way of the Warrior Kid 3: Where there’s a Will… (A Novel) by Jocko Willink and Jon Bozak
Mikey and the Dragons by Jocko Willink and Jon Bozak
Discipline Equals Freedom — Jocko Willink, The Tim Ferriss Show #275
Jocko Willink on Discipline, Leadership, and Overcoming Doubt, The Tim Ferriss Show #187
The Scariest Navy SEAL Imaginable…And What He Taught Me, The Tim Ferriss Show #107
Jocko Willink, The Joe Rogan Experience #729
The Second Battle of Ramadi, Wikipedia
Navy SEAL Careers, US Navy
Top 10 Things to Know Before BUD/S, Military.com
The Tim Ferriss Show Transcripts: When to Quit — Lessons from World-Class Entrepreneurs, Investors, Authors, and More, The Tim Ferriss Show #254
Escape from New York, HistoryNet
Anzac Cove and Gallipoli Then and Now, The Guardian
The Evacuation of Dunkirk, Historic UK
1997 Dodge Grand Caravan Specs, Price, MPG & Reviews, Cars.com
If You Don’t Like To Fight, This is Why You Should Do Jiu Jitsu, Jocko Willink and Echo Charles, Jocko Podcast
Keep The White Belt Attitude, Gracie Barra
What is Frog Hill in BUD/S? SEAL Grinder PT
Kalsu WOD: One of the Hardest CrossFit Workouts, Athletic Muscle
How Contrast Bath Therapy Works, Verywell Health
Home Instructions for Contrast Bath, Cincinnati Children’s
What Is Exposure Therapy? APA
With Tim Ferriss — Darkness & How to Stay on the Path, Last Days of Life & What to Do, Back-up Plans, Misconceptions, Jocko Podcast #50
Some Practical Thoughts on Suicide by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog
The Path to Pearl Harbor, The National WWII Museum
Korean War, a ‘Forgotten’ Conflict That Shaped the Modern World, The New York Times
Why the United States Went to War in Vietnam, Foreign Policy Research Institute
Tools of Titans: The Tactics, Routines, and Habits of Billionaires, Icons, and World-Class Performers by Timothy Ferriss
Victory MMA, San Diego
Jocko White Tea
Origin Maine
Jockostore.com

SHOW NOTES

In his own words, who is Jocko Willink? [03:01]
How did Jocko meet his wife, what tips does he have for building and maintaining a family, and how does a mindset of extreme ownership ensure everything runs as smoothly as possible — whether at home, in the office, or while leading a platoon? [04:53]
Tactical and strategic perspectives: knowing when to quit and when to persevere when there are opportunity costs to consider. [11:24]
How does discipline play a role in macro and micro financial decisions like daily and monthly budgets? Has this changed for Jocko over time? [20:17]
How does Jocko balance his time as a father with businesses, a podcast, and working out? What values does he hope to pass on to his children? [23:37]
What are Jake’s thoughts on toxic masculinity? How should someone raise their son to understand concepts like harassment and consent, and to be assertive and ambitious in life without going too far (or not far enough)? [31:45]
What are Jocko’s experiences with cold or heat therapy like cold showers, ice baths, saunas, et cetera? [38:22]
What is one piece of advice Jocko would give someone who’s on the brink of finishing it all tonight — especially someone who might be skeptical of psychologists? [44:23]
What’s Jocko’s step-by-step guide to building discipline for someone who has little to none of it? [49:33]
How does someone build mental toughness and resilience? [51:26]
If Jocko hadn’t been in the military, what would he have done instead? [52:48]
Your five-year-old has been taking jiu-jitsu for two weeks, but he’s not very aggressive. How do you teach someone to turn on aggression? [54:06]
Jocko has started multiple, successful businesses since his first appearance on this podcast a few years back. How has he managed to do this? [58:12]
What does Jocko consider to be his biggest failure? [1:06:57]

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Joe Rogan
George Washington
Adolf Hitler
Winston Churchill

Jordan Peterson
Leif Babin
Pete Roberts

Jocko Willink Takeover — On Quitting, Relationships, Financial Discipline, Contrast Baths, and More (#395)

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“You might have to make some tactical retreats in order to win the long war, but never quit on your strategic vision. Never quit on getting to the ultimate place where you want to go.” — Jocko Willink

Jocko Willink (@jockowillink) takes over the show for a special episode. Jocko is one of the scariest human beings imaginable. He is a lean 230 pounds and a Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt who used to tap out 20 Navy SEALs per workout. He is a legend in the special operations world, and his viral podcast interview with me was the first public interview he ever did. Jocko spent 20 years in the U.S. Navy and commanded SEAL Team Three’s Task Unit Bruiser, the most highly decorated special operations unit from the Iraq War. Upon returning to the United States, Jocko served as the officer-in-charge of training for all West Coast SEAL Teams, designing and implementing some of the most challenging and realistic combat training in the world.

After retiring from the Navy, he co-founded Echelon Front, a leadership and management consulting company, and co-authored the #1 New York Times bestseller Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win. He is also the author of The Dichotomy of Leadership, Way of the Warrior Kid, and Discipline Equals Freedom: Field Manual. His new book, Leadership Strategy and Tactics: Field Manual, is coming out in January.

Jocko also discusses human nature through the lens of war, leadership, and business on the top-rated Jocko Podcast.

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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Listen to it on Apple Podcasts.
Stream by clicking here.
Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”

This episode is brought to you by LegalZoom. I’ve used this service for many of my businesses, as have quite a few of the icons on this podcast, such as Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg of WordPress fame.

LegalZoom is a reliable resource that more than a million people have already trusted for everything from setting up wills, proper trademark searches, forming LLCs, setting up non-profits, or finding simple cease-and-desist letter templates.

LegalZoom is not a law firm, but it does have a network of independent attorneys available in most states who can give you advice on the best way to get started, provide contract reviews, and otherwise help you run your business with complete transparency and up-front pricing. Check out LegalZoom.com and enter promo code Tim at checkout today for special savings and see how the fine folks there can make life easier for you and your business.

This episode is also brought to you by LinkedIn. If you’re looking for a job, knowing where to look is the first step toward finding the right fit. LinkedIn has more than 20 million job postings—from software engineer to robotics engineer, project manager to HR manager, or associate attorney to associate veterinarian. LinkedIn also has one of the largest communities to help you connect and network with people who can open doors for you, give you valuable career advice, help you learn new skills, and introduce you to new people at companies and organizations that are hiring and looking for exactly your skill set.

No matter what kind of job you’re looking for, or where you are in your career — whether you’re just starting out and wondering what to do, switching to a new role, or starting over — there are people on LinkedIn who can help you. With more than 20 million jobs posted, there’s a good chance that LinkedIn has exactly what you’re looking for. Find the job meant for you at LinkedIn.com/jobs.

Want to hear the last time Jocko was on this show? — Listen to this episode about the success mindset, how to stop laziness and procrastination, behaviors that lead to failure, exact workouts, training while traveling, and much more. (Stream below or right-click here to download.):

#275: Discipline Equals Freedom — Jocko Willinkhttps://rss.art19.com/episodes/95fe892c-1309-421a-be21-7297b0698dd1.mp3Download

QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Connect with Jocko Willink:

Echelon Front | Jocko Podcast | Warrior Kid Podcast | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Leadership Strategy and Tactics: Field Manual by Jocko Willink
Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin
Discipline Equals Freedom: Field Manual by Jocko Willink
The Dichotomy of Leadership: Balancing the Challenges of Extreme Ownership to Lead and Win by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin
Way of the Warrior Kid: From Wimpy to Warrior the Navy SEAL Way: A Novel by Jocko Willink and Jon Bozak
Marc’s Mission: Way of the Warrior Kid (A Novel) by Jocko Willink and Jon Bozak
Way of the Warrior Kid 3: Where there’s a Will… (A Novel) by Jocko Willink and Jon Bozak
Mikey and the Dragons by Jocko Willink and Jon Bozak
Discipline Equals Freedom — Jocko Willink, The Tim Ferriss Show #275
Jocko Willink on Discipline, Leadership, and Overcoming Doubt, The Tim Ferriss Show #187
The Scariest Navy SEAL Imaginable…And What He Taught Me, The Tim Ferriss Show #107
Jocko Willink, The Joe Rogan Experience #729
The Second Battle of Ramadi, Wikipedia
Navy SEAL Careers, US Navy
Top 10 Things to Know Before BUD/S, Military.com
The Tim Ferriss Show Transcripts: When to Quit — Lessons from World-Class Entrepreneurs, Investors, Authors, and More, The Tim Ferriss Show #254
Escape from New York, HistoryNet
Anzac Cove and Gallipoli Then and Now, The Guardian
The Evacuation of Dunkirk, Historic UK
1997 Dodge Grand Caravan Specs, Price, MPG & Reviews, Cars.com
If You Don’t Like To Fight, This is Why You Should Do Jiu Jitsu, Jocko Willink and Echo Charles, Jocko Podcast
Keep The White Belt Attitude, Gracie Barra
What is Frog Hill in BUD/S? SEAL Grinder PT
Kalsu WOD: One of the Hardest CrossFit Workouts, Athletic Muscle
How Contrast Bath Therapy Works, Verywell Health
Home Instructions for Contrast Bath, Cincinnati Children’s
What Is Exposure Therapy? APA
With Tim Ferriss — Darkness & How to Stay on the Path, Last Days of Life & What to Do, Back-up Plans, Misconceptions, Jocko Podcast #50
Some Practical Thoughts on Suicide by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog
The Path to Pearl Harbor, The National WWII Museum
Korean War, a ‘Forgotten’ Conflict That Shaped the Modern World, The New York Times
Why the United States Went to War in Vietnam, Foreign Policy Research Institute
Tools of Titans: The Tactics, Routines, and Habits of Billionaires, Icons, and World-Class Performers by Timothy Ferriss
Victory MMA, San Diego
Jocko White Tea
Origin Maine
Jockostore.com

SHOW NOTES

In his own words, who is Jocko Willink? [03:01]
How did Jocko meet his wife, what tips does he have for building and maintaining a family, and how does a mindset of extreme ownership ensure everything runs as smoothly as possible — whether at home, in the office, or while leading a platoon? [04:53]
Tactical and strategic perspectives: knowing when to quit and when to persevere when there are opportunity costs to consider. [11:24]
How does discipline play a role in macro and micro financial decisions like daily and monthly budgets? Has this changed for Jocko over time? [20:17]
How does Jocko balance his time as a father with businesses, a podcast, and working out? What values does he hope to pass on to his children? [23:37]
What are Jake’s thoughts on toxic masculinity? How should someone raise their son to understand concepts like harassment and consent, and to be assertive and ambitious in life without going too far (or not far enough)? [31:45]
What are Jocko’s experiences with cold or heat therapy like cold showers, ice baths, saunas, et cetera? [38:22]
What is one piece of advice Jocko would give someone who’s on the brink of finishing it all tonight — especially someone who might be skeptical of psychologists? [44:23]
What’s Jocko’s step-by-step guide to building discipline for someone who has little to none of it? [49:33]
How does someone build mental toughness and resilience? [51:26]
If Jocko hadn’t been in the military, what would he have done instead? [52:48]
Your five-year-old has been taking jiu-jitsu for two weeks, but he’s not very aggressive. How do you teach someone to turn on aggression? [54:06]
Jocko has started multiple, successful businesses since his first appearance on this podcast a few years back. How has he managed to do this? [58:12]
What does Jocko consider to be his biggest failure? [1:06:57]

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Joe Rogan
George Washington
Adolf Hitler
Winston Churchill

Jordan Peterson
Leif Babin
Pete Roberts

Q&A With Tim — On Wealth, Legacy, Grief, Lyme Disease, Gratitude, Longevity, and More (#394)

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Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is my job to sit down with world-class performers of all different types to tease out the habits, routines, favorite books, and so on that you can apply and test in your own life. This time, we have a slightly different episode.

As many of you know, I tested a “fan-supported model” earlier in the year, but I ended up reverting back to ads. It’s a long story, and you can read more about it at tim.blog/podcastexperiment.

After the experiment ended, I offered an additional live Q&A with supporters as a way to say thank you. This episode is that Q&A. (If you’d like to hear the first one, you can find it here: Q&A With Tim — On Happiness, Dating, Depressive Episodes, and Much More.)

We covered many topics: abundance mindset, balding, how I think about building a legacy, how to improve verbal tics, Lyme disease, cultivating gratitude, the grieving process, my morning routine when on a book deadline, and much more.

Please note that there were a few small glitches in the audio, but we cleaned it up, and it should be A-OK.

Please enjoy!

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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Listen to it on Apple Podcasts.
Stream by clicking here.
Download as an MP3 by right-clicking here and choosing “save as.”

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FreshBooks makes it super easy to track things like expenses, project time, and client info, and then merge it all into great-looking invoices. FreshBooks can save users up to 200 hours a year on accounting and bookkeeping tasks. Right now FreshBooks is offering my listeners a free 30-day trial, and no credit card is required. Go to FreshBooks.com/tim and enter “Tim Ferriss” in the “How did you hear about us?” section!

Want to hear the first Q&A I did for supporters? — You can hear it here, where we discuss politics, depression, dating, Austin vs. San Francisco, taking notes, and much more. (Stream below or right-click here to download):

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Why I’m Stopping the Fan-Supported Podcast Experiment by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog
Q&A With Tim — On Happiness, Dating, Depressive Episodes, and Much More, The Tim Ferriss Show #390
Write Drunk, Revise Sober, Quote Investigator
Definition of Extemporaneous, Merriam-Webster
Making It Real: Naval Ravikant’s Epic Tweetstorm “How to Get Rich (without Getting Lucky)” Redwhale via Medium
Dilbert
The Incredible Reason Why Richard Branson Started Virgin Atlantic, Travel + Leisure
The Man Who Taught Me How to Invest — Mike Maples, The Tim Ferriss Show #286
The Midas List, Forbes
NIH
Ten Lessons I Learned While Teaching Myself to Code by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog
Karlie Kloss — Entrepreneur and Supermodel, The Tim Ferriss Show #307
Ed Catmull, President of Pixar, on Steve Jobs, Stories, and Lessons Learned, The Tim Ferriss Show #22
20 Important Benefits of Music In Our Schools, National Association for Music Education
Naval Ravikant: The Person I Call Most for Startup Advice, The Tim Ferriss Show #97
Ozymandias by Percy Bysshe Shelley, Poetry Foundation
The 4-Hour Body: An Uncommon Guide to Rapid Fat Loss, Incredible Sex, and Becoming Superhuman by Timothy Ferriss
Tools of Titans: The Tactics, Routines, and Habits of Billionaires, Icons, and World-Class Performers by Timothy Ferriss
The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich by Timothy Ferriss
Tribe of Mentors: Short Life Advice from the Best in the World by Timothy Ferriss
Visiting Zarate with Eulogio Pomares, One of the Most Exciting Producers in Rias Baixas, Spain, Jamie Goode’s Wine Blog
On Grief and Grieving: Finding the Meaning of Grief Through the Five Stages of Loss by Elisabeth Kubler-Ross and David Kessler
The Tail End by Tim Urban, Wait But Why
Potent Psychedelic DMT Mimics Near-Death Experience in the Brain, Imperial College London
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine, PubChem
Let’s Drop the Gender Stereotypes — We Are All Non-Binary, The Guardian
There’s a Serious Philosophical Argument Supporting the Man Suing His Parents for Giving Birth to Him, Quartz
Neil Gaiman — The Interview I’ve Waited 20 Years To Do, The Tim Ferriss Show #366
Groundhog Day
5 Morning Rituals That Help Me Win The Day, The Tim Ferriss Show #105
The Five-Minute Journal
The Artist’s Way Morning Pages Journal: A Companion Volume to the Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron
The ONE Thing: The Surprisingly Simple Truth Behind Extraordinary Results by Gary Keller and Jay Papasan
Four Sigmatic
Matte Le„o Tea
My Outdoor Patio/Writing Office
Marpac Dohm White Noise Machine
The Truth About the Law of Attraction by Neil Farber, Psychology Today
Tesla
The Magic of Thinking Big by David J. Schwartz
Abundance: The Future Is Better Than You Think by Peter H. Diamandis and Steven Kotler
How to Build a World-Class Network in Record Time by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog
Why You Should Adopt a Shelter Animal, Clear the Shelters
The Rock, Pebbles, and Sand Analogy for Time Management, Develop Good Habits
Susan Garrett — Master Dog (and Human) Trainer, The Tim Ferriss Show #200
Signs and Symptoms of Untreated Lyme Disease, CDC
Doxycycline: Uses, Side Effects & Dosage Guide, Drugs.com
Tim Ferriss on Biomarkers, Ketosis, Microbiome, and Lyme Disease, Found My Fitness with Dr. Rhonda Patrick
Abbott Precision Xtra Glucose Monitor
Exactly How A Ketotarian Diet Can Help Overcome Lyme Disease by Dr. Will Cole
Alzheimer’s Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes — Evidence Reviewed, Journal of Diabetes Science and Technology
Babesiosis, CDC
My Life Extension Pilgrimage to Easter Island, The Tim Ferriss Show #193
Beyond Resveratrol: The Anti-Aging NAD Fad, Scientific American
Metformin: Side Effects, Dosage & Uses, Drugs.com
Glucophage: Side Effects, Dosage & Uses, Drugs.com
Could Rapamycin Help Humans Live Longer? The Scientist
Dom D’Agostino on Disease Prevention, Cancer, and Living Longer, The Tim Ferriss Show #188
Hacker News
Venture Hacks
Candyman
AngelList
Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High by Kerry Patterson, Joseph Grenny, Ron McMillan, and Al Switzler
The Art of Asking: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Let People Help by Amanda Palmer
Quora
Dr. Gabor MatÈ — New Paradigms, Ayahuasca, and Redefining Addiction, The Tim Ferriss Show #298
In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters with Addiction by Dr. Gabor MatÈ
The 80/20 Principle: The Secret to Achieving More with Less by Richard Koch
How to Stop Worrying and Start Living by Dale Carnegie
How to Be a Star at Work: 9 Breakthrough Strategies You Need to Succeed by Robert E. Kelley
The Benefits of Going Bald, BBC Future
Minoxidil (Topical Route) Description and Brand Names, The Mayo Clinic
Finasteride (Oral Route) Description and Brand Names, The Mayo Clinic
After Death: 8 Burial Alternatives That Are Going Mainstream, LiveScience
Eco-Friendly Green Burials Catching On in the US, Reuters
Dr. Peter Attia on Life-Extension, Drinking Jet Fuel, Ultra-Endurance, Human Foie Gras, and More, The Tim Ferriss Show #50
Keto Diet Dangers You Should Know About, Healthline
Anabolic Diet: To Build Muscle, Healthline
What Is the Cyclical Ketogenic Diet? Everything You Need to Know, Healthline
Cholinergic Effects on Human Gastric Motility, Gut
SlowMag
Nuun
1,000 True Fans by Kevin Kelly
Neil deGrasse Tyson — How to Dream Big, Think Scientifically, and Get More Done, The Tim Ferriss Show #389
StarTalk
You’re The Average Of The Five People You Spend The Most Time With, Business Insider
Ramit Sethi — Automating Finances, Negotiating Prenups, Disagreeing with Tim, and More, The Tim Ferriss Show #371
Happiness Is A Butterfly, Which When Pursued, Seems Always Just Beyond Your Grasp, Quote Investigator
Zhuangzi: A Pioneer of Happiness, The Pursuit of Happiness
Rick and Morty
Julie Rice — Co-Founding SoulCycle, Taming Anxiety, and Mastering Difficult Conversations, The Tim Ferriss Show #372
Entrepreneurship vs. Freelancing: What’s the Difference? Entrepreneur
Rolf Potts on Travel Tactics, Creating Time Wealth, and Lateral Thinking, The Tim Ferriss Show #41 & #42
Vagabonding: An Uncommon Guide to the Art of Long-Term World Travel by Rolf Potts
Tim Ferriss Presents at Audible
11 Things You Never Thought of When You Decided Not to Get Married, Forbes
NASA’s Mars Exploration Program
Jeff Bezos Unveils Blue Origin’s Vision for Space, and a Moon Lander, The New York Times
Elysium
Greg McKeown — How to Master Essentialism, The Tim Ferriss Show #355
Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown
Anhedonia: Symptoms, Treatment, and More, Healthline
The Psychedelic Revolution Is Being Led by a 79-Year-Old Holocaust Survivor, Vice
George Sarlo Foundation
What is the Hakomi Method? Hakomi Institute
The Magic of Mindfulness: Complain Less, Appreciate More, and Live a Better Life, The Tim Ferriss Show #122
Maker’s Schedule, Manager’s Schedule by Paul Graham
Awareness: The Perils and Opportunities of Reality by Anthony de Mello
Snow Crash: A Novel by Neal Stephenson
Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson
Two Planks or a Tray? Which Do You Choose: Skiing or Snowboarding? Martin Bell Weighs Up the Pros and Cons, The Guardian
Real Mind Control: The 21-Day No-Complaint Experiment by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog

SHOW NOTES

What have I done to overcome verbal tics and improve the quality of my extemporaneous speaking — both on this podcast and in live, public forums? [07:33]
Naval Ravikant recently did an epic tweetstorm on how to get rich. How would I recommend building wealth? [10:00]
What core concepts or philosophies would I teach my hypothetical child so he or she could 10x my success? And while we’re on the subject, what does “success” really mean? [13:55]
When all is said and done and it’s lights out for good, what do I want people to remember about me and what I’ve done? In essence, what would I want my eulogy to be? [20:43]
How do I deal with losing someone close? What tips, resources, or personal stories for learning to handle loss have worked for me? [23:12]
When is my next in-person meetup? [28:45]
What have I learned about love since being in my latest relationship? How do I tackle society’s binary options? [28:55]
Do I drink beer? [31:19]
Has my morning routine changed in recent times? If so, how? [31:43]
Do I believe in the law of attraction and abundance thinking? [35:30]
What’s a good way to get your network started if you’ve neglected it for, say, 30 years? [38:28]
Did I become more nurturing since I got my dog Molly? [38:51]
What’s been my experience with Lyme disease, and how did I combat it? [41:54]
Do I take any supplements or medication for anti-aging like metformin or NAD? [44:48]
How would I recommend breaking up with long-term, underperforming business partners? [46:27]
How would I approach an attempt to overcome addiction? [50:11]
What books do I recommend for someone right before they’re about to go through a major life change? [51:22]
If you’ve seen pictures of me from the past decade or two, you may have noticed that I used to have more hair on my head. How have I mentally processed my hair loss, and how much has it really affected me? [52:31]
Buried or cremated? Why and where? [58:35]
From an overall health and longevity viewpoint rather than merely trying to lose weight, do I think itís okay to stay in ketosis perpetually, or is it better to cycle in and out of ketosis? [59:51]
You struggle to fast because it makes your heart race. What are your options? [1:04:47]
How did I make the decision to return supporters’ donations and give them Amazon gift cards? [1:05:30]
Can I get Neil deGrasse Tyson on the show? (Yes!) [1:07:55]
Anything special planned for podcast number 400? [1:08:14]
What do I think of the current saturation of so-called masterminds and coaches on the personal growth circuit? [1:08:27]
What are my thoughts on Ramit Sethi of I Will Teach You to Be Rich fame? [1:09:48]
How long did it take me to be consistently happy throughout my day-to-day life? Am I still working on it? [1:10:40]
Who are the strongest female voices, mentors, and inspirations in my life? [1:13:45]
Am I a fan of Rick and Morty? [1:15:56]
What are my favorite cryptocurrency resources? [1:16:00]
My response to the oft-voiced opinion that I “need more women on the podcast.” [1:16:24]
Are kids in my cards? [1:18:55]
How has moving to Texas affected your life, lifestyle, and friendships? [1:19:20]
Tips for determining whether one is better suited for the entrepreneurship of running a company or a solo go at freelancing. [1:19:41]
What was it like to meet Rolf Potts? [1:19:58]
Do I feel it’s unfair that married people get tax benefits over people who are “merely” in a relationship and living together? [1:21:00]
Would I go to Mars? [1:21:13]
Am I able to sleep soundly when I’m not alone in bed? [1:22:08]
Do I feel like I’m making progress on healing my own childhood trauma? (Here’s where I mention the since-canceled book project.) [1:22:28]
Do I believe there would be value in having suicide attempt survivors talk to those who have lost family to suicide? [1:23:17]
Did I always have something in my life I’m excited about pursuing? [1:23:24]
How do I battle anhedonia? [1:23:47]
Am I building any new habits right now? If so, what’s my process? [1:24:40]
Am I ever afraid I will slip back into depression? [1:25:10]
What Neal Stephenson books do I like aside from Snow Crash? [1:26:07]
Skiing or snowboarding? [1:26:37]
What would be my go-to activity for a first date if my objective were to get to know someone quickly? [1:26:41]
What is my earliest childhood memory? [1:28:19]
What is the best way to expose a high performer who’s never failed at something to the concept of failure without destroying their confidence? [1:29:15]
What am I grateful for, and how do I cultivate such gratitude when it’s so easy to just complain about everything? [1:29:51]
Wrapping up. [1:32:46]

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Ernest Hemingway
Naval Ravikant
Scott Adams
Richard Branson
Mike Maples, Jr.
Ed Catmull
Matt Mullenweg
Tim Urban
Neil Gaiman
Gary Keller
David Schwartz
Peter Diamandis
Molly
Susan Garrett
Dom D’Agostino
Babak Nivi
Amanda Palmer
Gabor MatÈ
Richard Koch
Dale Carnegie
Peter Attia
Dan Duchaine
Mauro Di Pasquale
Kevin Kelly
Ramit Sethi
Henry David Thoreau
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Zhuangzi
Julie Rice
Rolf Potts
Jeff Bezos
Greg McKeown
George Sarlo
Paul Graham
Anthony de Mello
Neal Stephenson
Muneeb Ali

Q&A With Tim — On Wealth, Legacy, Grief, Lyme Disease, Gratitude, Longevity, and More (#394)

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Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is my job to sit down with world-class performers of all different types to tease out the habits, routines, favorite books, and so on that you can apply and test in your own life. This time, we have a slightly different episode.

As many of you know, I tested a “fan-supported model” earlier in the year, but I ended up reverting back to ads. It’s a long story, and you can read more about it at tim.blog/podcastexperiment.

After the experiment ended, I offered an additional live Q&A with supporters as a way to say thank you. This episode is that Q&A. (If you’d like to hear the first one, you can find it here: Q&A With Tim — On Happiness, Dating, Depressive Episodes, and Much More.)

We covered many topics: abundance mindset, balding, how I think about building a legacy, how to improve verbal tics, Lyme disease, cultivating gratitude, the grieving process, my morning routine when on a book deadline, and much more.

Please note that there were a few small glitches in the audio, but we cleaned it up, and it should be A-OK.

Please enjoy!

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Why I’m Stopping the Fan-Supported Podcast Experiment by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog
Q&A With Tim — On Happiness, Dating, Depressive Episodes, and Much More, The Tim Ferriss Show #390
Write Drunk, Revise Sober, Quote Investigator
Definition of Extemporaneous, Merriam-Webster
Making It Real: Naval Ravikant’s Epic Tweetstorm “How to Get Rich (without Getting Lucky)” Redwhale via Medium
Dilbert
The Incredible Reason Why Richard Branson Started Virgin Atlantic, Travel + Leisure
The Man Who Taught Me How to Invest — Mike Maples, The Tim Ferriss Show #286
The Midas List, Forbes
NIH
Ten Lessons I Learned While Teaching Myself to Code by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog
Karlie Kloss — Entrepreneur and Supermodel, The Tim Ferriss Show #307
Ed Catmull, President of Pixar, on Steve Jobs, Stories, and Lessons Learned, The Tim Ferriss Show #22
20 Important Benefits of Music In Our Schools, National Association for Music Education
Naval Ravikant: The Person I Call Most for Startup Advice, The Tim Ferriss Show #97
Ozymandias by Percy Bysshe Shelley, Poetry Foundation
The 4-Hour Body: An Uncommon Guide to Rapid Fat Loss, Incredible Sex, and Becoming Superhuman by Timothy Ferriss
Tools of Titans: The Tactics, Routines, and Habits of Billionaires, Icons, and World-Class Performers by Timothy Ferriss
The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich by Timothy Ferriss
Tribe of Mentors: Short Life Advice from the Best in the World by Timothy Ferriss
Visiting Zarate with Eulogio Pomares, One of the Most Exciting Producers in Rias Baixas, Spain, Jamie Goode’s Wine Blog
On Grief and Grieving: Finding the Meaning of Grief Through the Five Stages of Loss by Elisabeth Kubler-Ross and David Kessler
The Tail End by Tim Urban, Wait But Why
Potent Psychedelic DMT Mimics Near-Death Experience in the Brain, Imperial College London
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine, PubChem
Let’s Drop the Gender Stereotypes — We Are All Non-Binary, The Guardian
There’s a Serious Philosophical Argument Supporting the Man Suing His Parents for Giving Birth to Him, Quartz
Neil Gaiman — The Interview I’ve Waited 20 Years To Do, The Tim Ferriss Show #366
Groundhog Day
5 Morning Rituals That Help Me Win The Day, The Tim Ferriss Show #105
The Five-Minute Journal
The Artist’s Way Morning Pages Journal: A Companion Volume to the Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron
The ONE Thing: The Surprisingly Simple Truth Behind Extraordinary Results by Gary Keller and Jay Papasan
Four Sigmatic
Matte Le„o Tea
My Outdoor Patio/Writing Office
Marpac Dohm White Noise Machine
The Truth About the Law of Attraction by Neil Farber, Psychology Today
Tesla
The Magic of Thinking Big by David J. Schwartz
Abundance: The Future Is Better Than You Think by Peter H. Diamandis and Steven Kotler
How to Build a World-Class Network in Record Time by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog
Why You Should Adopt a Shelter Animal, Clear the Shelters
The Rock, Pebbles, and Sand Analogy for Time Management, Develop Good Habits
Susan Garrett — Master Dog (and Human) Trainer, The Tim Ferriss Show #200
Signs and Symptoms of Untreated Lyme Disease, CDC
Doxycycline: Uses, Side Effects & Dosage Guide, Drugs.com
Tim Ferriss on Biomarkers, Ketosis, Microbiome, and Lyme Disease, Found My Fitness with Dr. Rhonda Patrick
Abbott Precision Xtra Glucose Monitor
Exactly How A Ketotarian Diet Can Help Overcome Lyme Disease by Dr. Will Cole
Alzheimer’s Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes — Evidence Reviewed, Journal of Diabetes Science and Technology
Babesiosis, CDC
My Life Extension Pilgrimage to Easter Island, The Tim Ferriss Show #193
Beyond Resveratrol: The Anti-Aging NAD Fad, Scientific American
Metformin: Side Effects, Dosage & Uses, Drugs.com
Glucophage: Side Effects, Dosage & Uses, Drugs.com
Could Rapamycin Help Humans Live Longer? The Scientist
Dom D’Agostino on Disease Prevention, Cancer, and Living Longer, The Tim Ferriss Show #188
Hacker News
Venture Hacks
Candyman
AngelList
Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High by Kerry Patterson, Joseph Grenny, Ron McMillan, and Al Switzler
The Art of Asking: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Let People Help by Amanda Palmer
Quora
Dr. Gabor MatÈ — New Paradigms, Ayahuasca, and Redefining Addiction, The Tim Ferriss Show #298
In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters with Addiction by Dr. Gabor MatÈ
The 80/20 Principle: The Secret to Achieving More with Less by Richard Koch
How to Stop Worrying and Start Living by Dale Carnegie
How to Be a Star at Work: 9 Breakthrough Strategies You Need to Succeed by Robert E. Kelley
The Benefits of Going Bald, BBC Future
Minoxidil (Topical Route) Description and Brand Names, The Mayo Clinic
Finasteride (Oral Route) Description and Brand Names, The Mayo Clinic
After Death: 8 Burial Alternatives That Are Going Mainstream, LiveScience
Eco-Friendly Green Burials Catching On in the US, Reuters
Dr. Peter Attia on Life-Extension, Drinking Jet Fuel, Ultra-Endurance, Human Foie Gras, and More, The Tim Ferriss Show #50
Keto Diet Dangers You Should Know About, Healthline
Anabolic Diet: To Build Muscle, Healthline
What Is the Cyclical Ketogenic Diet? Everything You Need to Know, Healthline
Cholinergic Effects on Human Gastric Motility, Gut
SlowMag
Nuun
1,000 True Fans by Kevin Kelly
Neil deGrasse Tyson — How to Dream Big, Think Scientifically, and Get More Done, The Tim Ferriss Show #389
StarTalk
You’re The Average Of The Five People You Spend The Most Time With, Business Insider
Ramit Sethi — Automating Finances, Negotiating Prenups, Disagreeing with Tim, and More, The Tim Ferriss Show #371
Happiness Is A Butterfly, Which When Pursued, Seems Always Just Beyond Your Grasp, Quote Investigator
Zhuangzi: A Pioneer of Happiness, The Pursuit of Happiness
Rick and Morty
Julie Rice — Co-Founding SoulCycle, Taming Anxiety, and Mastering Difficult Conversations, The Tim Ferriss Show #372
Entrepreneurship vs. Freelancing: What’s the Difference? Entrepreneur
Rolf Potts on Travel Tactics, Creating Time Wealth, and Lateral Thinking, The Tim Ferriss Show #41 & #42
Vagabonding: An Uncommon Guide to the Art of Long-Term World Travel by Rolf Potts
Tim Ferriss Presents at Audible
11 Things You Never Thought of When You Decided Not to Get Married, Forbes
NASA’s Mars Exploration Program
Jeff Bezos Unveils Blue Origin’s Vision for Space, and a Moon Lander, The New York Times
Elysium
Greg McKeown — How to Master Essentialism, The Tim Ferriss Show #355
Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown
Anhedonia: Symptoms, Treatment, and More, Healthline
The Psychedelic Revolution Is Being Led by a 79-Year-Old Holocaust Survivor, Vice
George Sarlo Foundation
What is the Hakomi Method? Hakomi Institute
The Magic of Mindfulness: Complain Less, Appreciate More, and Live a Better Life, The Tim Ferriss Show #122
Maker’s Schedule, Manager’s Schedule by Paul Graham
Awareness: The Perils and Opportunities of Reality by Anthony de Mello
Snow Crash: A Novel by Neal Stephenson
Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson
Two Planks or a Tray? Which Do You Choose: Skiing or Snowboarding? Martin Bell Weighs Up the Pros and Cons, The Guardian
Real Mind Control: The 21-Day No-Complaint Experiment by Tim Ferriss, tim.blog

SHOW NOTES

What have I done to overcome verbal tics and improve the quality of my extemporaneous speaking — both on this podcast and in live, public forums? [07:33]
Naval Ravikant recently did an epic tweetstorm on how to get rich. How would I recommend building wealth? [10:00]
What core concepts or philosophies would I teach my hypothetical child so he or she could 10x my success? And while we’re on the subject, what does “success” really mean? [13:55]
When all is said and done and it’s lights out for good, what do I want people to remember about me and what I’ve done? In essence, what would I want my eulogy to be? [20:43]
How do I deal with losing someone close? What tips, resources, or personal stories for learning to handle loss have worked for me? [23:12]
When is my next in-person meetup? [28:45]
What have I learned about love since being in my latest relationship? How do I tackle society’s binary options? [28:55]
Do I drink beer? [31:19]
Has my morning routine changed in recent times? If so, how? [31:43]
Do I believe in the law of attraction and abundance thinking? [35:30]
What’s a good way to get your network started if you’ve neglected it for, say, 30 years? [38:28]
Did I become more nurturing since I got my dog Molly? [38:51]
What’s been my experience with Lyme disease, and how did I combat it? [41:54]
Do I take any supplements or medication for anti-aging like metformin or NAD? [44:48]
How would I recommend breaking up with long-term, underperforming business partners? [46:27]
How would I approach an attempt to overcome addiction? [50:11]
What books do I recommend for someone right before they’re about to go through a major life change? [51:22]
If you’ve seen pictures of me from the past decade or two, you may have noticed that I used to have more hair on my head. How have I mentally processed my hair loss, and how much has it really affected me? [52:31]
Buried or cremated? Why and where? [58:35]
From an overall health and longevity viewpoint rather than merely trying to lose weight, do I think itís okay to stay in ketosis perpetually, or is it better to cycle in and out of ketosis? [59:51]
You struggle to fast because it makes your heart race. What are your options? [1:04:47]
How did I make the decision to return supporters’ donations and give them Amazon gift cards? [1:05:30]
Can I get Neil deGrasse Tyson on the show? (Yes!) [1:07:55]
Anything special planned for podcast number 400? [1:08:14]
What do I think of the current saturation of so-called masterminds and coaches on the personal growth circuit? [1:08:27]
What are my thoughts on Ramit Sethi of I Will Teach You to Be Rich fame? [1:09:48]
How long did it take me to be consistently happy throughout my day-to-day life? Am I still working on it? [1:10:40]
Who are the strongest female voices, mentors, and inspirations in my life? [1:13:45]
Am I a fan of Rick and Morty? [1:15:56]
What are my favorite cryptocurrency resources? [1:16:00]
My response to the oft-voiced opinion that I “need more women on the podcast.” [1:16:24]
Are kids in my cards? [1:18:55]
How has moving to Texas affected your life, lifestyle, and friendships? [1:19:20]
Tips for determining whether one is better suited for the entrepreneurship of running a company or a solo go at freelancing. [1:19:41]
What was it like to meet Rolf Potts? [1:19:58]
Do I feel it’s unfair that married people get tax benefits over people who are “merely” in a relationship and living together? [1:21:00]
Would I go to Mars? [1:21:13]
Am I able to sleep soundly when I’m not alone in bed? [1:22:08]
Do I feel like I’m making progress on healing my own childhood trauma? (Here’s where I mention the since-canceled book project.) [1:22:28]
Do I believe there would be value in having suicide attempt survivors talk to those who have lost family to suicide? [1:23:17]
Did I always have something in my life I’m excited about pursuing? [1:23:24]
How do I battle anhedonia? [1:23:47]
Am I building any new habits right now? If so, what’s my process? [1:24:40]
Am I ever afraid I will slip back into depression? [1:25:10]
What Neal Stephenson books do I like aside from Snow Crash? [1:26:07]
Skiing or snowboarding? [1:26:37]
What would be my go-to activity for a first date if my objective were to get to know someone quickly? [1:26:41]
What is my earliest childhood memory? [1:28:19]
What is the best way to expose a high performer who’s never failed at something to the concept of failure without destroying their confidence? [1:29:15]
What am I grateful for, and how do I cultivate such gratitude when it’s so easy to just complain about everything? [1:29:51]
Wrapping up. [1:32:46]

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Ernest Hemingway
Naval Ravikant
Scott Adams
Richard Branson
Mike Maples, Jr.
Ed Catmull
Matt Mullenweg
Tim Urban
Neil Gaiman
Gary Keller
David Schwartz
Peter Diamandis
Molly
Susan Garrett
Dom D’Agostino
Babak Nivi
Amanda Palmer
Gabor MatÈ
Richard Koch
Dale Carnegie
Peter Attia
Dan Duchaine
Mauro Di Pasquale
Kevin Kelly
Ramit Sethi
Henry David Thoreau
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Zhuangzi
Julie Rice
Rolf Potts
Jeff Bezos
Greg McKeown
George Sarlo
Paul Graham
Anthony de Mello
Neal Stephenson
Muneeb Ali

Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn (#393)

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“It’s nice to be reminded that it’s been hard for other people when they were getting things done that you admired, because it maybe gives you that extra little bit of determination or patience to persevere a little more.” — Edward Norton

Edward Norton (@EdwardNorton) is one of the most celebrated actors of his generation. He has been nominated for three Academy Awards for his performances and has starred in, produced, written, or directed more than 30 films. His most recent film, Motherless Brooklyn, which he wrote, directed, produced, and stars in, will be released on November 1st.

People mostly know Edward for his acting, but he has a substantial parallel career as an entrepreneur, investor, and activist in both technology and environmental sustainability ventures.

In 2010 Norton co-founded and was chairman of CrowdRise, a charitable crowdfunding platform which raised more than $500M for U.S. nonprofit organizations before being acquired by GoFundMe, the largest social fundraising platform in the world, which Norton now serves on the board of. He also co-founded EDO, which applies advanced data science and machine learning to the analysis of audience engagement signals for the media and advertising industries. EDO’s data and software are used by every major film studio in their media rotation planning, and virtually every major television network now includes EDO data alongside Nielsen data within their pricing metrics.

He is the founding board president of the Maasai Wilderness Conservation Trust, an award-winning Kenyan conservation and community development organization, and in 2010 he was appointed the first United Nations Goodwill Ambassador for Biodiversity.

Edward seems to do it all. In this wide-ranging conversation, we go deep into his creative process and creative struggles, both inside and outside of film.

If you’d like more Edward after this episode, you can listen to my 2016 interview with him at tim.blog/edward. And take my word for it and go see Motherless Brooklyn in theaters. It’s absolutely outstanding.

You can find the transcript of this episode here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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Want to hear Edward’s previous appearance on this podcast? — Listen in on our pier-side conversation about the importance of surfing, early mentors, what separates good actors from mediocre ones, favorite books and movies, and much more. (Stream below or right-click here to download):

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Connect with Edward Norton:

Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Motherless Brooklyn
Motherless Brooklyn (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) by Various Artists (Amazon) (Spotify)
Edward Norton on Mastery, Must-Read Books, and The Future of Crowdfunding, The Tim Ferriss Show #133
CrowdRise
EDO
Maasai Wilderness Conservation Trust
Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem
Tourettic OCD, Flow Psychology
Tourette’s Disorder, Stanford Health Care
The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger
Edward Norton — Not Appearing in a Cinema near You, The Guardian
Shadowlands
How to Cage the Monkey Mind, The Tim Ferriss Show #175
Red Dragon
25th Hour
Burn This by Lanford Wilson
Atari 2600 Cartridge Scans, AtariAge
Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman
Out of Africa
Out of Africa and Shadows on the Grass by Isak Dinesen
The Blues Brothers
Yakuza: Inside Japan’s 400-Year-Old Crime Syndicate, ATI
Chinatown
The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York by Robert A. Caro
New York: A Documentary Film
Reds
Dances with Wolves
Unforgiven
Down in the Valley
The Illusionist
The Painted Veil
New Line Cinema
Warner Bros.
Rain Man
L.A. Confidential
Forrest Gump
Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups Commercial, 1972, YouTube
Online Rubik’s Cube
Rounders
Billions
Fight Club
American History X
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Poetry Foundation
Roma
Marriage Story
A Star is Born
Magic Mike
Legendary Entertainment
Kid A by Radiohead
Amnesiac by Radiohead
The Civil War: A Film by Ken Burns
Motherless Brooklyn by Ken Burns, Medium
Do the Right Thing
Violet Crown Cinema
Letters to a Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke

SHOW NOTES

We each share how we first became fans of Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem when it was first published in ’99. [08:23]
Who is “Bailey,” and what does he represent? [15:21]
As the person who wrote, produced, directed, and starred in this film, what did its creation look like from Edward’s perspective? How did it go from favorite book to active project? [18:12]
Edward’s self-talk when he decided to take a break from acting and get his pilot’s license, why his father was a particularly good role model to guide him toward this decision, and how flying a plane is like meditation. [23:21]
Edward’s considerations when trying to wrap his head around how he could possibly adapt a book like Motherless Brooklyn into a movie, and why such an adaptation — when done well — is a bit like transposing a piano concerto for guitar. [31:59]
How did Jonathan Lethem feel about Edward’s proposed changes from his original work — including setting it in the era when Robert Moses ruled New York City like an autocratic Caesar? [35:27]
The conversation that convinced an initially reluctant Edward to wear the hat of Motherless Brooklyn‘s director on top of producer, star, and writer — once the writer’s block was conquered. [42:28]
In which movie would you rather invest millions of dollars: a cross between Chinatown and Rain Man, or a cross between L.A. Confidential and Forrest Gump? [54:10]
What was Edward’s writing approach upon returning to the Motherless Brooklyn script that had been set aside to gather dust in his desk drawer for so long? [57:57]
The pros and cons of allowing the creative process to get competitive (even if it’s just in your own head), the confidence gained by learning new skills (even if you don’t have to use them), and the looming dread of an unfinished project (even when the thing that holds it up turns out to have an easy solution). [1:02:35]
By the time the Motherless Brooklyn project was ready for its producorial phase, was Edward still having doubts, or was he confident it would gain the necessary support to get made? [1:12:33]
A little insight into the world of film financing and hedging risks when big names are involved and millions of dollars are at stake — and how Motherless Brooklyn‘s financing is unique and probably non-replicable, but created deep bonds between Edward and the people who believed in the project. [1:18:53]
On Motherless Brooklyn‘s one-of-a-kind soundtrack and the deliberate thought and care that was put into its musical selections. [1:25:51]
What did documentary filmmaking legend (and recent guest of this show) Ken Burns think of Motherless Brooklyn, and how has Edward taken such an assessment from one of his heroes? What effect does Edward hope for this film to have on the rest of us? [1:32:18]
On gestation of art, why Edward is happier with the timing of Motherless Brooklyn coming out in 2019 instead of 2003, and why the world doesn’t need anyone putting a sexy stamp on the idea of nihilism right now. [1:45:13]
Why my wholehearted recommendation to see Motherless Brooklyn on the big screen (along with any recommendation I give) is sincere. [1:50:26]
Selective remembrance and final thoughts. [1:51:16]

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Jonathan Lethem
Lionel Essrog
Holden Caulfield
C.S. Lewis
Spike Lee
Lanford Wilson
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Edward’s Dad
Sydney Pollack
Meryl Streep
Isak Dinesen
Raymond Chandler
Philip Marlowe
Robert Moses
Alec Baldwin
Robert Caro
Ric Burns
Darth Vader
Julius Caesar
Warren Beatty
Faye Dunaway
Naomi Watts
Toby Emmerich
Brian Koppelman
David Levien
Andrew Ross Sorkin
Noah Baumbach
Bradley Cooper
Clint Eastwood
Bruce Willis
Steven Soderbergh
Channing Tatum
Alex Honnold
Wynton Marsalis
Thom Yorke
Miles Davis
Charles Mingus
Daniel Pemberton
Ken Burns
Bob Dylan
Rainer Maria Rilke
David Fincher
Wes Anderson
Alejandro Inarritu

Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn (#393)

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“It’s nice to be reminded that it’s been hard for other people when they were getting things done that you admired, because it maybe gives you that extra little bit of determination or patience to persevere a little more.” — Edward Norton

Edward Norton (@EdwardNorton) is one of the most celebrated actors of his generation. He has been nominated for three Academy Awards for his performances and has starred in, produced, written, or directed more than 30 films. His most recent film, Motherless Brooklyn, which he wrote, directed, produced, and stars in, will be released on November 1st.

People mostly know Edward for his acting, but he has a substantial parallel career as an entrepreneur, investor, and activist in both technology and environmental sustainability ventures.

In 2010 Norton co-founded and was chairman of CrowdRise, a charitable crowdfunding platform which raised more than $500M for U.S. nonprofit organizations before being acquired by GoFundMe, the largest social fundraising platform in the world, which Norton now serves on the board of. He also co-founded EDO, which applies advanced data science and machine learning to the analysis of audience engagement signals for the media and advertising industries. EDO’s data and software are used by every major film studio in their media rotation planning, and virtually every major television network now includes EDO data alongside Nielsen data within their pricing metrics.

He is the founding board president of the Maasai Wilderness Conservation Trust, an award-winning Kenyan conservation and community development organization, and in 2010 he was appointed the first United Nations Goodwill Ambassador for Biodiversity.

Edward seems to do it all. In this wide-ranging conversation, we go deep into his creative process and creative struggles, both inside and outside of film.

If you’d like more Edward after this episode, you can listen to my 2016 interview with him at tim.blog/edward. And take my word for it and go see Motherless Brooklyn in theaters. It’s absolutely outstanding.

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Connect with Edward Norton:

Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Motherless Brooklyn
Motherless Brooklyn (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) by Various Artists (Amazon) (Spotify)
Edward Norton on Mastery, Must-Read Books, and The Future of Crowdfunding, The Tim Ferriss Show #133
CrowdRise
EDO
Maasai Wilderness Conservation Trust
Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem
Tourettic OCD, Flow Psychology
Tourette’s Disorder, Stanford Health Care
The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger
Edward Norton — Not Appearing in a Cinema near You, The Guardian
Shadowlands
How to Cage the Monkey Mind, The Tim Ferriss Show #175
Red Dragon
25th Hour
Burn This by Lanford Wilson
Atari 2600 Cartridge Scans, AtariAge
Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman
Out of Africa
Out of Africa and Shadows on the Grass by Isak Dinesen
The Blues Brothers
Yakuza: Inside Japan’s 400-Year-Old Crime Syndicate, ATI
Chinatown
The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York by Robert A. Caro
New York: A Documentary Film
Reds
Dances with Wolves
Unforgiven
Down in the Valley
The Illusionist
The Painted Veil
New Line Cinema
Warner Bros.
Rain Man
L.A. Confidential
Forrest Gump
Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups Commercial, 1972, YouTube
Online Rubik’s Cube
Rounders
Billions
Fight Club
American History X
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Poetry Foundation
Roma
Marriage Story
A Star is Born
Magic Mike
Legendary Entertainment
Kid A by Radiohead
Amnesiac by Radiohead
The Civil War: A Film by Ken Burns
Motherless Brooklyn by Ken Burns, Medium
Do the Right Thing
Violet Crown Cinema
Letters to a Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke

SHOW NOTES

We each share how we first became fans of Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem when it was first published in ’99. [08:23]
Who is “Bailey,” and what does he represent? [15:21]
As the person who wrote, produced, directed, and starred in this film, what did its creation look like from Edward’s perspective? How did it go from favorite book to active project? [18:12]
Edward’s self-talk when he decided to take a break from acting and get his pilot’s license, why his father was a particularly good role model to guide him toward this decision, and how flying a plane is like meditation. [23:21]
Edward’s considerations when trying to wrap his head around how he could possibly adapt a book like Motherless Brooklyn into a movie, and why such an adaptation — when done well — is a bit like transposing a piano concerto for guitar. [31:59]
How did Jonathan Lethem feel about Edward’s proposed changes from his original work — including setting it in the era when Robert Moses ruled New York City like an autocratic Caesar? [35:27]
The conversation that convinced an initially reluctant Edward to wear the hat of Motherless Brooklyn‘s director on top of producer, star, and writer — once the writer’s block was conquered. [42:28]
In which movie would you rather invest millions of dollars: a cross between Chinatown and Rain Man, or a cross between L.A. Confidential and Forrest Gump? [54:10]
What was Edward’s writing approach upon returning to the Motherless Brooklyn script that had been set aside to gather dust in his desk drawer for so long? [57:57]
The pros and cons of allowing the creative process to get competitive (even if it’s just in your own head), the confidence gained by learning new skills (even if you don’t have to use them), and the looming dread of an unfinished project (even when the thing that holds it up turns out to have an easy solution). [1:02:35]
By the time the Motherless Brooklyn project was ready for its producorial phase, was Edward still having doubts, or was he confident it would gain the necessary support to get made? [1:12:33]
A little insight into the world of film financing and hedging risks when big names are involved and millions of dollars are at stake — and how Motherless Brooklyn‘s financing is unique and probably non-replicable, but created deep bonds between Edward and the people who believed in the project. [1:18:53]
On Motherless Brooklyn‘s one-of-a-kind soundtrack and the deliberate thought and care that was put into its musical selections. [1:25:51]
What did documentary filmmaking legend (and recent guest of this show) Ken Burns think of Motherless Brooklyn, and how has Edward taken such an assessment from one of his heroes? What effect does Edward hope for this film to have on the rest of us? [1:32:18]
On gestation of art, why Edward is happier with the timing of Motherless Brooklyn coming out in 2019 instead of 2003, and why the world doesn’t need anyone putting a sexy stamp on the idea of nihilism right now. [1:45:13]
Why my wholehearted recommendation to see Motherless Brooklyn on the big screen (along with any recommendation I give) is sincere. [1:50:26]
Selective remembrance and final thoughts. [1:51:16]

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Jonathan Lethem
Lionel Essrog
Holden Caulfield
C.S. Lewis
Spike Lee
Lanford Wilson
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Edward’s Dad
Sydney Pollack
Meryl Streep
Isak Dinesen
Raymond Chandler
Philip Marlowe
Robert Moses
Alec Baldwin
Robert Caro
Ric Burns
Darth Vader
Julius Caesar
Warren Beatty
Faye Dunaway
Naomi Watts
Toby Emmerich
Brian Koppelman
David Levien
Andrew Ross Sorkin
Noah Baumbach
Bradley Cooper
Clint Eastwood
Bruce Willis
Steven Soderbergh
Channing Tatum
Alex Honnold
Wynton Marsalis
Thom Yorke
Miles Davis
Charles Mingus
Daniel Pemberton
Ken Burns
Bob Dylan
Rainer Maria Rilke
David Fincher
Wes Anderson
Alejandro Inarritu

Ben Horowitz — What You Do Is Who You Are >> Lessons from Silicon Valley, Andy Grove, Genghis Khan, Slave Revolutions, and More (#392)

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“One of the key insights from Bushido is that a culture is not a set of beliefs, it’s a set of actions.”

— Ben Horowitz

Ben Horowitz (@bhorowitz) is a cofounder and general partner at the venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz. He is the author of the New York Times bestseller, The Hard Thing About Hard Things, and the upcoming Harper Business book, What You Do Is Who You Are, available October 29th. He also created the a16z Cultural Leadership Fund to connect cultural leaders to the best new technology companies and enable more young African Americans to enter the technology industry.

Prior to a16z, Ben was cofounder and CEO of Opsware (formerly Loudcloud), which was acquired by Hewlett-Packard for $1.6 billion in 2007. Previously, Ben ran several product divisions at Netscape Communications, including the widely acclaimed Directory and Security product line.

Ben has an MS and BA in Computer Science from UCLA and Columbia University, respectively.

You can find the transcript of this episode here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SCROLL BELOW FOR LINKS AND SHOW NOTES…

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Connect with Ben Horowitz:

Andreessen Horowitz | Twitter

What You Do Is Who You Are: How to Create Your Business Culture by Ben Horowitz
The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business When There Are No Easy Answers by Ben Horowitz
Andreessen Horowitz
a16z Cultural Leadership Fund
Opsware
Netscape Communications
Intel
Moore’s Law Definition, Investopedia
Fairchild Semiconductor
High Output Management by Andrew S. Grove
Ben’s Foreword to the Reprint of High Output Management
Ben Horowitz: Nailing the Hard Things, Stanford eCorner
What is Emotional Intelligence (EQ)? PsychCentral
Confucianism, Asia Society
The Essence of Leadership: Leadership Lessons from Colin Powell, Dando
Good Product Manager/Bad Product Manager by Ben Horowitz, Andreessen Horowitz
Silicon Valley’s Stealth Power, Fortune
Electronic Data Systems (EDS)
Chief Officer Abbreviations Explained: CEO, COO, CFO, and More by Dr. Diane Hamilton
The Basics of Corporate Structure, Investopedia
The Black Jacobins: Toussaint L’Ouverture and the San Domingo Revolution by C.L.R. James
My American Journey by Colin Powell and Joseph E. Persico
The Lean Startup: How Today’s Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful Businesses by Eric Ries
Making Yourself a CEO by Ben Horowitz, Andreessen Horowitz
What Was the Bolshevik Revolution? American Historical Association
The Bushido Code: The Eight Virtues of the Samurai, The Art of Manliness
The Haitian Revolution: History of a Successful Slave Revolt, ThoughtCo.
Caesar’s Commentaries by Julius Caesar

SHOW NOTES

Who is Andy Grove, and why is he interesting to Ben? [04:39]
How did Ben come to write the foreword to the updated reprint of Andy’s highly influential High Output Management, and what does he consider to be the most valuable takeaways from this book? [06:35]
As someone who, like Andy Grove, has a scientific background, how does Ben think about management and the problems in the world of business that need to be solved? [11:21]
How does Ben distinguish between management and leadership? [15:19]
When he was still working at Netscape, Ben wrote a paper called Good Product Manager/Bad Product Manager. What brought this paper about and what impact did it have on Ben and the other people at the company? [17:20]
What was Ben’s relationship with famed Silicon Valley coach Bill Campbell like, and what are some of the most important lessons he learned from him? [20:45]
What allows someone like a Bill Campbell or an Oprah Winfrey to read people so intuitively within minutes of meeting them? [24:34]
How does Ben advise a first-time executive who might have plenty of product knowledge, but not much experience with managing people or the nuances of a growing business? [26:45]
Aside from High Output Management, what books would Ben recommend for first-time founders? [32:11]
How does Ben teach first-time CEOs one of the most important skills of the position: the ability to be good at the job and its difficult decisions without worrying about being liked? [35:01]
What tools or techniques has Ben found useful for someone in a leadership position to manage their own psychology? [37:44]
Self-talk for someone in a high threat, one shot, one kill situation. [41:28]
As someone whose superpower may be running toward scary things instead of away from them, what does Ben mean when he says “sharpen the contradictions?” [43:51]
After telling himself he would never write another book, what prompted Ben to write his latest, What You Do Is Who You Are, and what is he trying to convey about creating and maintaining a desirable company culture? [46:44]
“A culture is not a set of beliefs, it’s a set of actions.” How would Ben suggest that people in a position to create a company culture refine their thinking about what works and what doesn’t? [50:27]
One significant example of how Andreessen Horowitz tries to differentiate its own culture from those of other venture capital firms Ben has observed. [51:53]
Is culture something that someone has to get right at the get-go, or is it possible to do a rehaul and make it work without replacing all of the employees at a company? [53:55]
What did Toussaint L’Ouverture do to militarize a slave culture that was able to successfully resist the most powerful European powers of the day and create an independent state? [56:52]
What would it take for Ben to feel like the message of What You Do Is Who You Are is getting through to its audience? What would it take for him to consider the book a success? [1:03:33]
What would Ben’s billboard say? [1:07:00]
Parting thoughts. [1:08:25]

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Andy Grove
Bob Noyce
Gordon Moore
Confucius
Colin Powell
Bill Campbell
Eric Schmidt
Jeff Bezos
Steve Jobs
Oprah Winfrey
Mark Zuckerberg
C.L.R. James
Toussaint L’Ouverture
Eric Ries
Karl Marx
Vladimir Lenin
Shaka Senghor
Napoleon Bonaparte
Julius Caesar
Ram Dass
Reed Hastings
Genghis Khan
Nas

Ben Horowitz — What You Do Is Who You Are >> Lessons from Silicon Valley, Andy Grove, Genghis Khan, Slave Revolutions, and More (#392)

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Photo by Elisabeth Fall

“One of the key insights from Bushido is that a culture is not a set of beliefs, it’s a set of actions.”

— Ben Horowitz

Ben Horowitz (@bhorowitz) is a cofounder and general partner at the venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz. He is the author of The New York Times bestseller, The Hard Thing About Hard Things, and the upcoming Harper Business book, What You Do Is Who You Are, available October 29th. He also created the a16z Cultural Leadership Fund to connect cultural leaders to the best new technology companies, and enable more young African Americans to enter the technology industry.

Prior to a16z, Ben was cofounder and CEO of Opsware (formerly Loudcloud), which was acquired by Hewlett-Packard for $1.6 billion in 2007. Previously, Ben ran several product divisions at Netscape Communications, including the widely acclaimed Directory and Security product line.

Ben has an MS and BA in Computer Science from UCLA and Columbia University, respectively.

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Stitcher, Castbox, or on your favorite podcast platform.

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Stream by clicking here.
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As a listener of The Tim Ferriss Show, you’ll get a free 20-count travel pack (valued at $79) with your first order at athleticgreens.com/tim.

This episode is also brought to you by Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel, LinkedIn’s podcast now in its second season, and it is full of advice you can start using today.

Each week, Jessi sits down with featured guests to investigate the role work plays in our lives, and how to make it work for us. This season, one of the first episodes I recommend checking out is with Jerry Colonna. I’ve worked with Jerry in the past, and he is one of the start-up world’s most in-demand executive coaches. In the episode, Jerry shares his approach to meetings, explains how to ask good open-ended questions, and he also goes through his approach to daily journaling.

Whether you’re starting your first job or gearing up for retirement, Hello Monday helps you tackle Monday — and the rest of the workweek — with tactics and strategies you can use. Find Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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QUESTION(S) OF THE DAY: What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

SCROLL BELOW FOR LINKS AND SHOW NOTES…

SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE

Connect with Ben Horowitz:

Andreessen Horowitz | Twitter

What You Do Is Who You Are: How to Create Your Business Culture by Ben Horowitz
The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business When There Are No Easy Answers by Ben Horowitz
Andreessen Horowitz
a16z Cultural Leadership Fund
Opsware
Netscape Communications
Intel
Moore’s Law Definition, Investopedia
Fairchild Semiconductor
High Output Management by Andrew S. Grove
Ben’s Foreword to the Reprint of High Output Management
Ben Horowitz: Nailing the Hard Things, Stanford eCorner
What is Emotional Intelligence (EQ)? PsychCentral
Confucianism, Asia Society
The Essence of Leadership: Leadership Lessons from Colin Powell, Dando
Good Product Manager/Bad Product Manager by Ben Horowitz, Andreessen Horowitz
Silicon Valley’s Stealth Power, Fortune
Electronic Data Systems (EDS)
Chief Officer Abbreviations Explained: CEO, COO, CFO, and More by Dr. Diane Hamilton
The Basics of Corporate Structure, Investopedia
The Black Jacobins: Toussaint L’Ouverture and the San Domingo Revolution by C.L.R. James
My American Journey by Colin Powell and Joseph E. Persico
The Lean Startup: How Today’s Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful Businesses by Eric Ries
Making Yourself a CEO by Ben Horowitz, Andreessen Horowitz
What Was the Bolshevik Revolution? American Historical Association
The Bushido Code: The Eight Virtues of the Samurai, The Art of Manliness
The Haitian Revolution: History of a Successful Slave Revolt, ThoughtCo.
Caesar’s Commentaries by Julius Caesar

SHOW NOTES

Who is Andy Grove, and why is he interesting to Ben? [04:39]
How did Ben come to write the foreword to the updated reprint of Andy’s highly influential High Output Management, and what does he consider to be the most valuable takeaways from this book? [06:35]
As someone who, like Andy Grove, has a scientific background, how does Ben think about management and the problems in the world of business that need to be solved? [11:21]
How does Ben distinguish between management and leadership? [15:19]
When he was still working at Netscape, Ben wrote a paper called Good Product Manager/Bad Product Manager. What brought this paper about and what impact did it have on Ben and the other people at the company? [17:20]
What was Ben’s relationship with famed Silicon Valley coach Bill Campbell like, and what are some of the most important lessons he learned from him? [20:45]
What allows someone like a Bill Campbell or an Oprah Winfrey to read people so intuitively within minutes of meeting them? [24:34]
How does Ben advise a first-time executive who might have plenty of product knowledge, but not much experience with managing people or the nuances of a growing business? [26:45]
Aside from High Output Management, what books would Ben recommend for first-time founders? [32:11]
How does Ben teach first-time CEOs one of the most important skills of the position: the ability to be good at the job and its difficult decisions without worrying about being liked? [35:01]
What tools or techniques has Ben found useful for someone in a leadership position to manage their own psychology? [37:44]
Self-talk for someone in a high threat, one shot, one kill situation. [41:28]
As someone whose superpower may be running toward scary things instead of away from them, what does Ben mean when he says “sharpen the contradictions?” [43:51]
After telling himself he would never write another book, what prompted Ben to write his latest, What You Do Is Who You Are, and what is he trying to convey about creating and maintaining a desirable company culture? [46:44]
“A culture is not a set of beliefs, it’s a set of actions.” How would Ben suggest that people in a position to create a company culture refine their thinking about what works and what doesn’t? [50:27]
One significant example of how Andreessen Horowitz tries to differentiate its own culture from those of other venture capital firms Ben has observed. [51:53]
Is culture something that someone has to get right at the get-go, or is it possible to do a rehaul and make it work without replacing all of the employees at a company? [53:55]
What did Toussaint L’Ouverture do to militarize a slave culture that was able to successfully resist the most powerful European powers of the day and create an independent state? [56:52]
What would it take for Ben to feel like the message of What You Do Is Who You Are is getting through to its audience? What would it take for him to consider the book a success? [1:03:33]
What would Ben’s billboard say? [1:07:00]
Parting thoughts. [1:08:25]

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Andy Grove
Bob Noyce
Gordon Moore
Confucius
Colin Powell
Bill Campbell
Eric Schmidt
Jeff Bezos
Steve Jobs
Oprah Winfrey
Mark Zuckerberg
C.L.R. James
Toussaint L’Ouverture
Eric Ries
Karl Marx
Vladimir Lenin
Shaka Senghor
Napoleon Bonaparte
Julius Caesar
Ram Dass
Reed Hastings
Genghis Khan
Nas