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(1) Last volume was great, and I was really looking forward to this one. But then I realized it's comprised of "Superman: Doomed" issues. Ugh!
- There's zero point in reading the bulk of this, it's only 6/21, non-consecutive, parts of a crossover I'll have to read again anyway.
- The rest are two "Futures End" tie-ins and an Annual. At least the Annual might be good.
— Jul 15, 2021 12:15AM
Notes:
(1) Last volume was great, and I was really looking forward to this one. But then I realized it's comprised of "Superman: Doomed" issues. Ugh!
- There's zero point in reading the bulk of this, it's only 6/21, non-consecutive, parts of a crossover I'll have to read again anyway.
- The rest are two "Futures End" tie-ins and an Annual. At least the Annual might be good.
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Notes:
(1) This must have been shortly after Gal Gadot was cast as Wonder Woman.
- It's the first time I've read it mentioned that she has an accent.
- Tony Daniel has even changed the way he draws Wonder Woman to resemble her, albeit still in his distinctive style.
(2) Predictably, the further into this crossover the less sense it made. The last issue was decent, at least.
— Jul 17, 2021 03:00AM
Notes:
(1) This must have been shortly after Gal Gadot was cast as Wonder Woman.
- It's the first time I've read it mentioned that she has an accent.
- Tony Daniel has even changed the way he draws Wonder Woman to resemble her, albeit still in his distinctive style.
(2) Predictably, the further into this crossover the less sense it made. The last issue was decent, at least.
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That's crazy. Why would they not at least put them in order??
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Yep, this was collected terribly. All of the regular issues are in Doomed too, where they make sense. I skipped them and read them in Doomed. During the New 52, DC was egregious about collecting crossovers, especially the Superman ones.
Amy wrote: "That's crazy. Why would they not at least put them in order??"I suppose it's designed for people who just want a complete collection of issues from this series only. Though, I don't know who that might appeal to. It's probably a scheme to force people to buy a separate book in order to get the whole story.
Chad wrote: "Yep, this was collected terribly. All of the regular issues are in Doomed too, where they make sense. I skipped them and read them in Doomed. During the New 52, DC was egregious about collecting cr..."Yeah, I with I had the fortitude to skip this and just read individual issues of the non-Doomed stuff, but I don't think that's in my DNA.
I don't know what it is with Superman books and crossovers. Batman books never had this issue. I guess those books sell well enough that you don't have to do constant cross-promotion. 🤷♂️
Jayson wrote: "I don't know what it is with Superman books and crossovers. Batman books never had this issue. I guess those books sell well enough that you don't have to do constant cross-promotion"It may have just been a New 52 thing and their mandate to collect all titles (even though that stopped before the end of the New 52). Trinity War was another instance in the New 52 where you've got the issues reprinted in the regular books by themselves where the reader has no context to what is happening between issues.
The last time the Batbooks crossed over was Night of the Monster Men. It was a small crossover so it wasn't egregious. When they used to do the big crossovers like Wargames, they only released the issues as part of the crossover collection.
Chad wrote: "Jayson wrote: "It may have just been a New 52 thing and their mandate to collect all titles (even though that stopped before the end of the New 52)."Yes, it might have been them experimenting with the trade market, because prior to the New 52 they didn't have numbered volumes, and probably didn't know for certain how best to approach it. At least, I give them the benefit of having no established precedent outside of manga, which doesn't have to deal with crossovers.
I think it lasted until the very end of the New 52. "The Final Days of Superman" was right at the tail end of it and I know for sure that crossover had this same problem. Once Rebirth kicked in, I believe they only reprinted crossover issues in separate crossover books.
Chad wrote: "Trinity War was another instance in the New 52 where you've got the issues reprinted in the regular books by themselves where the reader has no context to what is happening between issues."
Off the top of my head, there was "Trinity War," "The Culling," and "Robin War." The rest were all Superman books.
Jayson wrote: "I think it lasted until the very end of the New 52. "The Final Days of Superman" was right at the tail end of it and I know for sure that crossover had this same problem. Once Rebirth kicked in, I believe they only reprinted crossover issues in separate crossover books."The end of the New 52 was a clusterfuck. Superman started pro wrestling. Then it ended with two Superman crossovers back to back and the last two issues of Superman / Wonder Woman were only printed in the trade.
Chad wrote: "The end of the New 52 was a clusterfuck. Superman started pro wrestling. Then it ended with two Superman crossovers back to back and the last two issues of Superman / Wonder Woman were only printed in the trade."I was just reading the editor's note in the last Superman/Wonder Woman, and it said that those issues take place after "Savage Dawn" but before "The Final Days of Superman." So my guess is they were inventory issues. Inventory issues being kind of rainy-day one-shots that they could slot in if they got behind on schedule. So, they were most likely greenlit after "Savage Dawn" was planned, but before "The Final Days of Superman," and couldn't be published afterward. Really, they should be 27.1 and 27.2 instead of 30 and 31. In any case, I don't mind them publishing inventory issues as bonus stories. Past the point where they wouldn't work sequentially anymore, I'd prefer DC release them all in trade.