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I've tried reading Precious Jade by the same author and can't get past the first page for exasperation with the MC. Now I'm practically frightened to try another of hers.
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Steelwhisper wrote: "I've tried reading Precious Jade by the same author and now I'm practically frightened to try another of hers."I had never read anything by her before this book too. And I didn't read the first book of this series. Since Syfy and Emma gave these books 5 stars and that usually I love what they love, I decided to give it a try.
That's not bad, but this is classic: big bad Dom with shy little sub who had a bad mommy and no daddy.
So my intellect says "no-no,please no more". But my heart goes on telling me "poor little sub". I am at a turning point in the book, so depending on what will happen now, I will read the rest or not.
Danny wrote: "That's not bad, but this is classic: big bad Dom with shy little sub who had a bad mommy and no daddy...."I'm so longing for a book with something NOT like everyone and everything else. I'm so, so tired of this always samey BDSM in books.
The moment gay men are involved it always is either Master/slave or Daddy/boy, it's always the boringly same rituals, the same behaviours, the same addressing each other, the very same-same-same play. Without fail.
I just read Dirty Laundry and woe be told, it's the same old story. As always. Including using BDSM as therapy. Gah.
It seems no one ever heard about the rest of BDSM. I'm cranky. But damn.
Steelwhisper wrote: "I'm so longing for a book with something NOT like everyone and everything e..."If I find something really different, it'll be my pleasure to tell you.
I read the excerpt of
The Inquisitor: A Novel. The book seems good but I have already begun many other books, so maybe I'll buy it when I finish the others. I don't know. At the end of the excerpt, the MC list the usual forms of torture:
Sharpened objects. The Judas Chair proved so successful during the Inquisition that most European countries began customizing their own versions. Culla di Giuda, Judaswiege—by any name, it was a pyramid-shaped seat upon which the Jones, raised by ropes, was perched.
Encasement and pressure. The Iron Maiden, an upright sarcophagus, was fitted with interior spikes and apertures for the insertion of various sharp or pronged objects during an interrogation. It was also, to a degree, the ancestor of the sensory deprivation process. The buskin, Spanish Boot, and Malay Foot Press all used shrinkage and manipulation to break feet; the thumbscrew was limited to single digits, but an interrogator who carried one in his pocket could turn any place into a torture chamber.
Manacling and stretching. The rack was a technological advance, with its employment of rollers, gears, and handles, allowing one the ability to quickly increase or reduce physical pain by minute degrees.
Waterboarding was another brainchild of the Inquisition’s interrogators. They understood that whereas submerging a Jones in water might prove effective over time, waterboarding triggered the gag reflex almost instantaneously, heightening the fear of death.
Intense heat had always been a staple of the torturer’s trade—consider the phrase “putting one’s feet to the fire”—as had the ripping and flaying of flesh.
Also useful was a wide array of tools, from the simple—such as pliers for denailing—to the complex—such as the Pear, a hinged and often exquisitely etched steel tool inserted into the vagina or anus and slowly expanded by means of a screw handle. The catalog of tools was extensive: the Wheel, the Cat’s Paw, the Head Crusher, the Crocodile Tube, the Picquet, the Strappado.
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The MC is a torturer, not a BDSMer. So we can say without risk of error that it is not about BDSM. lollll And I don't know if the Inquisitor will use some of these "tools" or not. So far, he didn't.
I've read an extremely similar idea (only it's a serial killer) by Val McDermid whose books are usually quite gory.But I do mean BDSM. It's as if all these authors rode the same one-trick pony.
Steelwhisper wrote: "But I do mean BDSM. It's as if all these authors rode the same one-trick pony."Have you read
The Good Sadist? Maybe...The author said that it was based on truth. Based? Maybe, but I don't think there is a lot of truth in the book.
Some people said that the book is not realistic because no one could endure such SM plays, not that long. I don't know. I am so stubborn. Someone supposed to be 100% maso (I don't think I am maso that much) and 100% stubborn (believe me, I am), is it possible or not for him to endure one complete day of torture? Sure it depends on the torture. ;) And in this book, forget the safewords, so...
Anyhow, The Good Sadist, realistic or not, wasn't so bad.
Are you a jockey? "one-trick pony"? And the pony only counts stomping its hoof on the ground. Not even an original trick. lollll
Steelwhisper wrote: "Danny wrote: "That's not bad, but this is classic: big bad Dom with shy little sub who had a bad mommy and no daddy...."
I'm so longing for a book with something NOT like everyone and everything e..."
James Buchanan did a nice job of with Laying Ghosts. No weak sub, and the fun thing is that it's experienced bottom/inexperienced top. :D
Unfortunately it's not really a stand alone as far as the story goes and the BDSM is part of the characterization rather than the plot. So if you are looking for a BDSM story, this isn't that. Nonetheless, that aspect was NOT the canned crap that I am oh so tired of.
I'm so longing for a book with something NOT like everyone and everything e..."
James Buchanan did a nice job of with Laying Ghosts. No weak sub, and the fun thing is that it's experienced bottom/inexperienced top. :D
Unfortunately it's not really a stand alone as far as the story goes and the BDSM is part of the characterization rather than the plot. So if you are looking for a BDSM story, this isn't that. Nonetheless, that aspect was NOT the canned crap that I am oh so tired of.
Danny wrote: "Are you a jockey? "one-trick pony"? ..."LOL, nah! But same-old, same-old is getting to me. It's as if all of BDSM consisted just of D/s.
Steelwhisper wrote: "Neither appear to be what I am seeking. It's still either invented, or mainly D/s methinks. :/"
James Buchanan is a BDSMer (is that even a word? Or did I make it up? I hesitate to call him a lifesyler because he doesn't refer to himself that way), so his writing has an authentic feel. Like I said, it isn't the point of the book, it's not a big aspect of the plot and he doesn't push the envelope with any kind of edge play. I suspect he was mostly kicking the weak, newby sub/awesome Dom trope just because it pisses him off so much.
James Buchanan is a BDSMer (is that even a word? Or did I make it up? I hesitate to call him a lifesyler because he doesn't refer to himself that way), so his writing has an authentic feel. Like I said, it isn't the point of the book, it's not a big aspect of the plot and he doesn't push the envelope with any kind of edge play. I suspect he was mostly kicking the weak, newby sub/awesome Dom trope just because it pisses him off so much.
Kate wrote: "James Buchanan is a BDSMer (is that even a word? Or did I make it up? I hesit..."I'm not saying he invented this (that referred to the books Danny cited, which clearly are fantasies), I'm tired of D/s and leathermen (esp. Daddy/boy). It bores me to tears by now, these stories are written as if D/s was all BDSM out there. *Any* everyday playparty will teach the casual observer that this certainly isn't the case. Anyone who has in-depth knowledge knows that BDSM is so fantastically diverse, that even a thousand and ever different books could be written without repeating kinks and executions thereof.
But if you read BDSM-themed books all you get is D/s D/s D/s. Yada yada yada. I've played for instance with a man whose kink was fur. We had some rather majestic scenes together which I'll never forget. I've yet to see, for instance, well-written bloodplay--usually it's just some pissing contest between players trying to out-macho each other. Blood is erotic. Or how about people into bastonnades? Celibacy and NOT the typical gay leatherman style stuff. As I said, there's so much and all you get is the same stuff again and again. If I have to one more time read about a sub having to hold "the slave position" I'll scream... ;)
In that context inexperienced Dom/experienced sub doesn't cut it far for me, as revolutionary as this may seem to some readers, it's still the same boring D/s to me ;) To explain, this is about as diverse to me as having to watch porn videos which all have exclusively couples in missionary position, and nothing else.
Steelwhisper wrote: "I'm not saying he invented this (that referred to the books Danny cited, which clearly are fantasie..."Maybe you should read old guard's stories. They didn't give a shit about slave's posture and things like that. They just did what they liked. Sometimes, this is strangely "refreshing".
Did you read
Venus in Furs?
Steelwhisper wrote: "Oh yes, and loved it ;)"I remember two guys I met when I went to college. They loved to play together. No one was dominant nor sub. They just loved challenging each other. They studied in electronics, so they played a lot with electronic devices. But not just that. Once, one of them was arrested by the police because he was running naked around the campus. ;) Then, a few days later, the other one had a very very strange haircut. He claimed to have a haircut like that because he lost a bet. Yeah! I think he lost a lot of bets since he had met the other guy. lolll
Maybe, I should write their story.
Reading
, you might like trying it ;) Not gruesome so far, but some great depictions of sadomasochism and D/s slavery that isn't so far the same old same old.

