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Penny | 353 comments Mike wrote: "I'm currently reading

Death Watch (DI Peter Shaw & DS George Valentine, #2) by Jim KellyDeath Watch by Jim KellyJim Kelly

I thought the latest book by Elizabeth George was excellen..."


interesting Mike - I love this series but this one was a little off key for me. I found it long and quite slow in parts - yet as usual I wanted to know what happened in the end. I think the best character was Salvatore - he could start a series in his own right!! I found the ending with Barbara getting away with all her crazy behaviour slightly out of sync - especially as Ardery has no love for her. I guess she did it for Lynley.


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Leslie | 1664 comments Sarah wrote: "My seasonal mystery read is Tied Up In Tinsel by Ngaio Marsh.

Merry Christmas everyone :-)"


I read that last December - it was pretty good! This year my seasonal mystery was Rest You Merry, which was OK but not as good as Tied Up in Tinsel or Envious Casca


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Susan | 606 comments Mike wrote: "I'm currently reading

Death Watch (DI Peter Shaw & DS George Valentine, #2) by Jim KellyDeath Watch by Jim KellyJim Kelly

I thought the latest book by Elizabeth George was excellen..."

It's so interesting because I found the book a disappointment again. I think she's gone off since she killed Helen. I find it hard to believe that in less than a year Lynley would be on his second affair. I do agree with Penny that Salvatore stole the book. I am interested in him. I wish George would just let Lynley and Havers solve some crimes unrelated to their personal lives again.


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Jean Guarr | 280 comments Me too, Susan. I agree completely with you. I'm glad that Haddiyah and her father will be gone, at least; that will give George a chance to get away from the personal stuff. Sometimes I think that, if the detectives managed their personal lives better, none of these writers would have any plots at all.


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Kay | 218 comments Susan and Jean, I agree with you. Sometimes events in their personal lives ruin a book for me.


message 906: by Joan (new)

Joan | 314 comments I'm only about 1/4 of the way through the latest Elizabeth George, and so far it's still carrying me along. I'm not riveted, however. Frankly, I find it a bit implausible that Barbara Havers would, again and again, risk her job (and even her life and limb) for Azhar and Haddiyah. I also find it totally implausible that Azhar's (abandoned) Pakistani family would freak out in public and/or in front of a police officer when he shows up after 10 years. Yes, people have strong feelings about all sorts of things, but don't they also have some self control, some dignity, or at least some ambivalence?


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Susan | 606 comments I couldn't agree more, Joan. I could understand the son though. His age and loss was totally guiding his actions. If you're 1/4 of the way through you will find that Barbara continues her suicide mission but I found it realistic. These were two people she loved and she loved so few that it became even more important.


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Lorraine (saanichlori) I'm half way through Divergent by Veronica Roth. I've seen trailers for the movie which comes out in March and wanted to read the book before then. Good so far.


message 909: by Penny (new)

Penny | 353 comments Lorraine wrote: "I'm half way through Divergent by Veronica Roth. I've seen trailers for the movie which comes out in March and wanted to read the book before then. Good so far."

my daughter read this straight through as we drove her back to University after Christmas - I will have to give it a go !!


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Helen | 98 comments almost done re-reading Charles Todd's Bess Crawford series, the first four. Number 5 is on its way from Amazon and I wanted to refresh ...


message 911: by Susan (new)

Susan | 606 comments @Helen, this must be a good series then? I just started to read his Rutledge series and liked it very much. Would you recommend the Bess Crawford series?


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Helen | 98 comments Susan wrote: "@Helen, this must be a good series then? I just started to read his Rutledge series and liked it very much. Would you recommend the Bess Crawford series?"

Susan ~ yes I quite like the Bess series - it covers WWI and the stories are well done. I do have to admit though that sometimes the incidences of chance meetings between characters are just a bit too coincidental ~ that being said I still enjoy them. Have you read his stand alone Murder Stone? Definitely different.


message 913: by Susan (new)

Susan | 606 comments No, the new Charles Todd was the first one I've read and I liked it very much. It also dealt with WWI and it's complexity reminded me of Maisie Dobbs. Both talked about PTSD although they didn't call it that then.


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Ruth | 101 comments Who do you think is the best of these writers who are currently writing detective novels set in pre-war Britain?


message 915: by Susan (new)

Susan | 606 comments Well, I love Maisie Dobbs but it seemed like in her last novel that it was the end of the series. I've only read one Charles Todd but that one was really good.


message 916: by Penny (new)

Penny | 353 comments Sarah wrote: "Who do you think is the best of these writers who are currently writing detective novels set in pre-war Britain?"

Have you read any of the Joe Sandilands books by Barbara Cleverly? I have really enjoyed those, also The Railway Detective Series by Marston. Not sure who I would list as the very best of writers basing stories in that time - its an interesting question though!


message 917: by Carolien (new)

Carolien (carolien_s) I've read Barbara Cleverly and enjoyed it. I'd appreciate recommendations for more books set in this era.


message 918: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 101 comments Thanks for the recommendations - I'd appreciate any more as well.


message 919: by Sally (new)

Sally I'm nearly finished with The Bullet Trick by Louise Welsh .The lead character is a down on his luck magician. The story takes place in Glasgow, London, and Berlin. The story is building to a climax so I have to finish it today.


message 920: by Helen (new)

Helen | 98 comments Susan wrote: "Well, I love Maisie Dobbs but it seemed like in her last novel that it was the end of the series. I've only read one Charles Todd but that one was really good."

I have just put Maisie on my list after having read a few pages on Amazon - thank you !


message 921: by Penny (new)

Penny | 353 comments I enjoyed Goodnight Sweet Prince (Lord Francis Powerscourt, #1) by David Dickinson which is the first of a series - I've not yet read any more but I probably will. They are set prior to WW1.


message 922: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 101 comments Is anyone else doing the 2014 Reading Challenge? How do you pitch it - do you make it easily achievable or add a few extra books on top of your limit? I haven't done it before so nothing to compare it with.


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Yvonne Williams (1289) | 55 comments I just finished Bad Men by John Connolly (Dublin, Ireland) - a little gruesome, but I will probably read more of his books. Tried to read one of Peter Fowler's Peculiar Crime Unit books, but they just aren't my thing.


message 924: by Jean (last edited Jan 02, 2014 12:18PM) (new)

Jean Guarr | 280 comments I also like the Sandilands books by Cleverly and the Railway Detective ones by Marston - I don't like much else of his stuff but these are excellent. I also like Winspear's Maisie Dobbs series, but not as much as Todd's Bess Crawford and Ian Rutledge ones. Have you tried the Daisy Dalrymple series by Carola Dunn? They're quite entertaining. Does anyone else have suggestions?


message 925: by Carolien (new)

Carolien (carolien_s) Mystery Women An Encyclopedia of Leading Women Characters in Mystery Fiction, Volume 1 1860-1979 by Colleen Barnett . I picked this one up in the bargain bin of my local bookstore today and it is fascinating to browse. Colleen Barnett, the author, has read thousands of mysteries and provides short biographies of female characters in mysteries. I haven't heard of many of them (especially the American ones), but it's a wonderful source.


message 926: by Carolien (new)

Carolien (carolien_s) Jean wrote: "I also like the Sandilands books by Cleverly and the Railway Detective ones by Marston - I don't like much else of his stuff but these are excellent. I also like Winspear's Maisie Dobbs series, bu..."

I'll check out Carolann Dunn and Marston.


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Miss M Carolien wrote: "Mystery Women An Encyclopedia of Leading Women Characters in Mystery Fiction, Volume 1 1860-1979 by Colleen Barnett. I picked this one up in the bargain bin of my local bookstore today and it is..."

Ha...I got that aaages ago for my kindle- completely forgot about it...thanks!

I like Rhys Bowen's Royal Spyness series from that era.


message 928: by Jean (new)

Jean Guarr | 280 comments Yes, I like those too, Miss M.


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Leslie | 1664 comments Sarah wrote: "Is anyone else doing the 2014 Reading Challenge? How do you pitch it - do you make it easily achievable or add a few extra books on top of your limit? I haven't done it before so nothing to compare..."

Sarah - I have made it easily achievable since you can always increase it later on if you want to.


message 930: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 101 comments Thanks Leslie, I was wondering if you could increase it through the year. So I think I'll go for achievable and see how it goes.


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Susan | 606 comments I love the Royal Spyness series. I particularly like the one where she met Coco Channel. So much fun.


message 932: by Miss M (new)

Miss M Susan wrote: "I love the Royal Spyness series. I particularly like the one where she met Coco Channel. So much fun."

Seems like they'd be perfect for a tv mini-series...


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Susan | 606 comments They do don't they?


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Diane | 24 comments Sarah wrote: "Is anyone else doing the 2014 Reading Challenge? How do you pitch it - do you make it easily achievable or add a few extra books on top of your limit? I haven't done it before so nothing to compare..."
Not really on the subject but just love your little
picture - I am pretty sure it is Dolores Costello
on an old Photoplay magazine.


message 935: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 101 comments Diane wrote: "Not really on the subject but just love your little
picture - I am pretty sure it is Dolores Costello
on an old Photoplay magazine. "


Isn't she lovely! Well-spotted - I just liked it as a flapper image but didn't know who she was. So I've just googled Dolores Costello and yes it's from the cover of the October issue of Photoplay magazine. Thanks Diane!

Who is that on your profile picture? She's lovely too.


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Joan | 314 comments OK, so I've made is to page 296 out of 720 in the latest Elizabeth George, and it's due back at the library. I'm going to return it. I'll get it from my university library when classes restart a week and a half from now, and I doubt I'll spend any time during that week and a half wondering about what happens on page 297. What is the opposite of "page turner"?


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Jean Guarr | 280 comments Joan, I probably wouldn't have finished it either, but I kept hoping George would redeem herself. Didn't happen though . . . .


message 938: by Joan (new)

Joan | 314 comments Jean, I do actually intend to finish it eventually. I'm just not willing to pay overdue fines in order to do so. :=)


message 939: by Helen (last edited Jan 04, 2014 09:09AM) (new)

Helen | 98 comments I have broken my own cardinal rule ~ the one that says "do not read during the day because nothing will get done". Three books arrived on December 30th and all have been read! An inordinate number of pages between noon on the 30th & midnight on the 2nd, bearing in mind that I worked on that day as well....C.S. Harris' "What Angels Fear" (comments here https://www.goodreads.com/review/show... Bruce Alexander's "Blind Justice" in which I really enjoyed the writing style & Charles Todd's latest Bess Crawford "A Question of Honour" which I feel was the best of the three. My next will be Peter Kirby's "Vigilante Season", not British, but he lives in and writes about my home town - and very well. Right now I am off to catch up on all that has been ignored since the delivery :>)


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Susan | 606 comments Joan wrote: "OK, so I've made is to page 296 out of 720 in the latest Elizabeth George, and it's due back at the library. I'm going to return it. I'll get it from my university library when classes restart a ..."

I warned you that I had to slog through it. Why, oh why, do I keep hoping George will regain her former style. I wish that Lynley and Havers would go back and solve crime unrelated to their personal lives.


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Leslie | 1664 comments Helen wrote: "I have broken my own cardinal rule ~ the one that says "do not read during the day because nothing will get done". Three books arrived on December 30th and all have been read! An inordinate number..."

I love Bruce Alexander's series! And I strongly recommend reading them in order so you can follow Jeremy Proctor's growth.


message 942: by Helen (new)

Helen | 98 comments Leslie wrote: I love Bruce Alexander's series! And I strongly recommend reading them in order so you can follow Jeremy Proctor's growth"

I plan to do just that Leslie - I know I will enjoy them, judging by the first one


message 943: by Carolien (new)

Carolien (carolien_s) Helen wrote: "I have broken my own cardinal rule ~ the one that says "do not read during the day because nothing will get done". Three books arrived on December 30th and all have been read! An inordinate number..."

I like your rule! I spent New Year's Day reading The Kills by Linda Fairstein. What nice books! They're all on my TBR list especially Bruce Alexander. I don't know Kirby, will look him up.


message 944: by Helen (new)

Helen | 98 comments Carolien wrote: I like your rule! I spent New Year's Day reading The Kills by Linda Fairstein. What nice books

I am 98% retired and read so much that I found I was losing my days (and my home was suffering) ... hence the rule. Attached to that is the fact that I felt I had to reduce my book budget as well. So now, bedtime is my reading time ;>) (usually)


message 945: by Carolien (new)

Carolien (carolien_s) LOL!

Sounds blissful. I'm at the other end of the spectrum - two young children, full time job and studying part time. I only read at bedtime since that is the only time I have for myself (but must then make sure I still go to sleep at a reasonable time and not read just another few pages!)


message 946: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum If I am going to read before bedtime, I have to follow my two rules. I have to have read the book before, and it has to be full of sweetness and light, charm and goodness. I'm too susceptible to the written word to be able to get to sleep otherwise!

And I do not watch the news before bed, either...


message 947: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Karlyne wrote: "If I am going to read before bedtime, I have to follow my two rules. I have to have read the book before, and it has to be full of sweetness and light, charm and goodness. I'm too susceptible to ..."

Sounds like a good time to reread some Georgette Heyer :)


message 948: by Karlyne (new)

Karlyne Landrum Of course she's on my list, Leslie!


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Wendy Percival | 30 comments To all those people doing the Reading Challenge... do you have several books on the go or always read in a linear, fashion, so to speak? If I have more than one book going, it's usually one novel and one non-fiction but some people say things like "I'm currently reading 6 books..." How do they organise their reading? I've always wanted to know!


message 950: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Wendy wrote: "To all those people doing the Reading Challenge... do you have several books on the go or always read in a linear, fashion, so to speak? If I have more than one book going, it's usually one novel a..."

I started reading multiple books about 18 months ago, when 2 things occurred to change my reading habits - I discovered GoodReads and I started listening to audiobooks.

I started to read more poetry and short stories, of which I read a little bit each day, so I might have in my "currently reading" shelf one book of short stories, one collection of poems, one audiobook, and one "real" book. Then I started reading more classics, which are sometimes very long or hard to read, so I started having a second "real" book (usually a mystery); often one is print and the other on my Kindle...


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