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How many of the 1001 books have you read?
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Apr 02, 2010 02:44AM

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Anthony Powell's series is only counted as one entry on the list.



I agree, Charity. It is confusing to start referring this as 1,021 instead of 1,001 books. However, I have a question: LOTR and Regeneration are clearly trilogies. But for The Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy, Douglas Adams call it as a trilogy but it is composed of 5 or 6 books. The list has The Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy as an entry. Does this mean we will read only the first book? I mean it is clear for example for Regeneration Trilogy, only the 1st and 3rd books are listed so are required to read only those 2 (but I will read them all). In the case of Hitchhiker's does it refer to the series or only the first book?



That's my take, anyway : )


If I didn't care I wouldn't be in the group, reading the books on the list either, right? I'm just saying sometimes the choice can be your own. Would you berate someone from setting down a book they truly didn't enjoy?

I would hope the people using this list would feel that they can cut people some slack. I'm a firm believer in live and let live. I don't think any of us have a right to judge how or why anybody else is reading.

If I didn't care I wouldn't be in the group, reading the books on the list either, right? I'm just saying sometimes the choice can be your o..."

Since this isn't my only book group, it's cerntainly not the only list I'm working from, BUT this list is also a "book" so any cocerns about "which book" the list is referring to, You could always check the actual BOOK that has this list. That should clarify specifically which book they are referring to and WHY it's on the list. The books are actually quite interesting to check out. I know my local library has all three books: 2006, 2008 & they just got the 2010 edition in.



If I didn't care I wouldn't be in the group, reading the books on the list either, right? I'm just saying sometimes the choice can be your o..."
But you did not say "sometimes". You said "it's your own personal choice as to how to count books". No "sometimes" there.
I agree with you that on the individual level the reader can decide for himself how to count and what to read. But we are here in the "How many of the 1001 books have you read?" forum. So how to count--and a consensus on this--are perfectly legitimate and relevant inquiries. The heading of the forum is a question. Joining in, a person has to give an answer to the question. If, for example, I've read nothing from the list but ELEVEN (11) of the twelve books comprising Anthony Powell's "A Dance to the Music of Time", how do I answer the question: a. zero, b.11 or c. 11/12 of one?

You asked a question. I offered my opinion. I thought that was what this group is about. I did not expect to be chastised for my opinion.
Perhaps you would prefer I quietly say "a. zero," with no further explanation. In the future I will make sure to avoid this group.

You asked a question. I offered my opinion. I thought that was what this group is about. I did not e..."
Paula, you gave your opinion, and I merely disagreed. I did not, and never intended to, "chastise" you.
The inquiry was like this: there's a Hitchhiker entry in the 1001 list. That's one of the 1001 books we must read before we die. The author calls it a "trilogy" but actually it appears to have 5 or 6 books. So do we read all, or only the first three? People made this 1001 list. They take the form of recommendations. The compilers, in effect, recommend that we read those mentioned in the list. So the question is whether the recommendation for this Hitchhiker entry, which the author calls a trilogy, is to read the first 3 only or all 5 or 6 books in the series? It therefore goes into the INTENTION of those who included this entry in the 1001 list. Your answer, however, was: 1.it's one's personal choice how to count books; 2. it's one's personal choice also to determine what books are "required"; 3. no one is monitoring one's progress anyway; 4. no one is also penalizing anyone anyway; and 5. if one reads a book in a series and feels like stopping, then he should stop.
It only did NOT answer the question, but it clearly translates into : do what you like, no one cares.
Please don't leave. Invite me as your friend instead.

You asked a question. I offered my opinion. I thought that was what this group is about. I did not e..."
Paula, I hope you stay in the group - I've enjoyed your comments.
I agree with Paula's comment that it is people's personal preferences on how they check off a book - just my opinion, but if people feel differently then they can come up with a group consensus. And I think the statement that she doesn't care came across as criticism and was a bit harsh. As someone else said in this thread 'live and let live'. Come on - 1001 books! There is plenty to discuss without sniping.
And Paula, please stay!


I did not care to read any more (I had gotten all I felt was there for me in this series), so I marked the series as read. After reading four books, it was just too painful to leave it as unread! I did the same thing with the "Clarissa" series. Weird how we get so attached to our accomplishments and feel cheated if we can't take credit for them -- at least to ourselves! :)
It seems to me the list is arbitrary in how it deals with series. At least I don't see a logic behind why the Barker series should be treated differently than "Dance to the Music of Time". I just assumed it had something to do with the publishing industry, how the books were first printed and released perhaps: but I really don't know. I think deciding on our own individual methods of "taking credit" is at least as rational as the list is in this regard! (If anyone can enlighten us otherwise, please do!)
I have never looked on this group as a source of competition either, only sharing; so I really am not concerned with how others count their books. The whole commitment is to further our education, to self-improve, to read "the best" in fiction,isn't it? That and just challenge ourselves to meet our own goals? How can anyone (or group) dictate to another how to measure that?
All that said, I have no problem if a consensus method is established for counting individual vs series books the way the group wants to -- for the purpose of apples to apples counting. I'm willing to do that also; but I'll still, for myself, keep counting mine the way it "feels" right to me..

which list do we use and where do you access it?


However, the Hitchhiker question is still unanswered."
I think what they are saying is to count it as 1 because it is listed as 1. Someone recommended to read all the 5 or 6 books for better appreciation since those are easy reads anyway.



According to the way the book 1001 Books...is set up, sometimes you read the whole as in A Dance to the Music of Time but only one as in Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy. The book only mentions the first book. (I am reading the first edition). In Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast trilogy, the first and second books are given separate listings, the third is not included. So if you are to be literal, you would need to know how the book is noted in the book, 1001 Books.... Many people make their own rules, it depends on one's personal style. I tend to be literal. I also do not think I will ever finish the books, besides being older and having too little time and too many books, the goal is a moving target.

I will be literal too.
My next question is, Why did Titus groan?"
Titus Groan. Groan is the last name of the rulers of Gormenghast. He will be the 77th Earl of Gormenghast.

I've read 8 from the 2008 list. A ton of those are on my list to read, as well.

Exactly. I do not like wasting time reading series. I have a hard time giving that much time to one author. Your insight into the author's intent, I think, is right on target.


I also have, of course, my "read-forgotten" and "may-have-read" lists. These are books in the 1001 list which give me a strong sense of deja vu but couldn't remember their plots anymore or what they are all about. If all these will be counted, I've certainly read more than 109.



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