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Mark wrote: "Ok, I have decided to go with Anathem."
Let us know how you like it. I start twitching when I see it due to having slogged through the bloat that was Cryptonomicon.
Let us know how you like it. I start twitching when I see it due to having slogged through the bloat that was Cryptonomicon.
Mark wrote: "Funny thing, the other books in the running, including Cryptonomicon, were all of similar lengths. I hope all of the pages are necessary..."
2666 is the only other one you listed that I've read. I thought it earned its page length, but by the middle of the Juarez chapter you may want to jump off of a building. As you can probably ascertain from my last post, I thought Crytonomicon was in need of some serious editing. And the female characters made ME want to jump off of a building.
2666 is the only other one you listed that I've read. I thought it earned its page length, but by the middle of the Juarez chapter you may want to jump off of a building. As you can probably ascertain from my last post, I thought Crytonomicon was in need of some serious editing. And the female characters made ME want to jump off of a building.

Ah. Yeah. That can be excruciatingly annoying. A pity. It's an astonishingly well-written book.

I'm also still working on Delta of Venus and The Windup Girl in little bits and pieces.

Good to hear! I recently finished "John Dies at the End" & really want to read this sequel. Need to request it from the library....
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Riona wrote: "I started This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don’t Touch It yesterday, after waiting anxiously on the library hold list for a while. So far it doesn't disappoint!..."
Good to hear! My copy arrived this week too. I've started High-Rise first though, since the group read's coming up. I really like it so far..
Also was given a copy of The Very Hungry Zombie: A Parody for my big four-OH. Ageing immaturely. It's the only way to do it.
Good to hear! My copy arrived this week too. I've started High-Rise first though, since the group read's coming up. I really like it so far..
Also was given a copy of The Very Hungry Zombie: A Parody for my big four-OH. Ageing immaturely. It's the only way to do it.

I'm only a little way in but I'm really enjoying The Dark Monk.
I've just finished The Seducer, which was amazing (review to follow). I'm now looking for something to replace it as my Kindle reading. Suggestions welcome here: http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...
I'm about a third of the way through High-Rise for the upcoming Group Read and enjoying it. I think it'll make for a really good discussion too.
I'm going away tomorrow for work and am taking Fragile Things by Neil Gaiman away with me. I don't usually read short stories, but my partner bought me this anthology for my birthday and from the reviews, I think he chose well.
I'm about a third of the way through High-Rise for the upcoming Group Read and enjoying it. I think it'll make for a really good discussion too.
I'm going away tomorrow for work and am taking Fragile Things by Neil Gaiman away with me. I don't usually read short stories, but my partner bought me this anthology for my birthday and from the reviews, I think he chose well.
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I also am part of the "Fragile Things But Not Yet" club. I keep putting it off!
I really hope you enjoy PSS as much as I did. I don't want to overhype it and ruin it for you though :)
Glad you've read High-Rise in time for the group read. I should probably get back to reading it myself......!
Glad you've read High-Rise in time for the group read. I should probably get back to reading it myself......!
Just finished my review of The Seducer by Jan Kjærstad if anyone's interested: http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
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1/4 of the way through John Ajvide Lindqvist's Harbor -- so far it's gorgeous and fascinating.
Ian wrote: "Read Redshirts (Ho hum) and Swamp Thing, Vol. 6: Reunion (GORGEOUS).
1/4 of the way through John Ajvide Lindqvist's Harbor -- so far it's gorgeous and fascinating."
Oooooh. I look forwrd to that review. I loved Handling the Undead, and still have Little Star and Let the Right One In sitting on my shelf. I'll be keen to know what Harbor is like.
1/4 of the way through John Ajvide Lindqvist's Harbor -- so far it's gorgeous and fascinating."
Oooooh. I look forwrd to that review. I loved Handling the Undead, and still have Little Star and Let the Right One In sitting on my shelf. I'll be keen to know what Harbor is like.
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1/4 of the way through John Ajvide Lindqvist's Harbor -- so far it's gorgeous and fascinating."
Oooooh. I look for..."
I'm really enjoying it. I can tell you right off the bat, it's MUCH denser than either Let the Right One In or Handling the Undead, but it's a beautiful density. Much richer and more worthwhile (so far) than most of the books i read for October, so i wish I'd picked this instead. :P

Sven wrote: "I too have Harbour on my to-read shelf (literally). My wife says that the dark "O" in the title "Harbour" freaks her out. I'm looking forward to reading it as well as I really enjoyed Lindqvist's..."
Fair comment about Makers. Amazing ideas, but Doctorow has trouble even following them to their logical conclusion, although this book is better at that than most of his others. My review's here if you're interested (no spoilers): http://www.goodreads.com/review/edit/...
Fair comment about Makers. Amazing ideas, but Doctorow has trouble even following them to their logical conclusion, although this book is better at that than most of his others. My review's here if you're interested (no spoilers): http://www.goodreads.com/review/edit/...
Theo wrote: "Starting The Golem's Mighty Swing"
Wow. I can't help but wonder what the golem's swingin'.
Pipe?
A golf club?
A mean trombone? Man that golem can swing.....
Wow. I can't help but wonder what the golem's swingin'.
Pipe?
A golf club?
A mean trombone? Man that golem can swing.....

I agree completely with your review. Very insightful. I've just finished Part 2 and it's starting to warm up a little for me but I can't see myself giving it any more than three stars at the moment. Hope I'm wrong...
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Wow. I can't help but wonder what the golem's swingin'.
Pipe?
A golf club?
A mean trombone? Man that golem can swing....."
Oh, the apostrophe is BEFORE the "s". I glanced at it and assumed it was about a couple of middle-aged golems who grew bored with married life and decided to throw a key party.
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Past the halfway mark in Harbor and it just keeps on being wonderful.
Ian wrote: "Oh, the apostrophe is BEFORE the "s". I glanced at it and assumed it was about a couple of middle-aged golems who grew bored with married life and decided to throw a key party. ......."
Bahaha! I've been singing my Golem swing song all evening, BTW.
Sven - Doctorow's an interesting person. I have a real love/hate thing with that guy, and his books.
Ian - It drives me nuts that "Harbor" is spelled without the "u". It's not even a US book!
Bahaha! I've been singing my Golem swing song all evening, BTW.
Sven - Doctorow's an interesting person. I have a real love/hate thing with that guy, and his books.
Ian - It drives me nuts that "Harbor" is spelled without the "u". It's not even a US book!

Wow. I can't help but wonder what the golem's swingin'.
Pipe?
A golf club?
A mean trombone? Man that golem can swing....."
Sorry to disappoint...he's just swinging a baseball bat (for the "Stars of David" a barn-storming, beard-sporting, Jewish baseball team).
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Yes, the alternate spelling is odd. Though at least they didn't change it the way they did for the original American version of Let the Right One In (which was shortened to "Let Me In" because publishers believed Americans wouldn't like the longer title...but was almost "Let Her In" till Lindqvist complained that a certain character wasn't actually female).
And yes, the actual plot DOES sound disappointing compared to our speculations. It also reminds me of that John Bellairs book, The Eyes of the Killer Robot.
Ian wrote: "at least they didn't change it the way they did for the original American version of Let the Right One In (which was shortened to "Let Me In" because publishers believed Americans wouldn't like the longer title...but was almost "Let Her In" till Lindqvist complained that a certain character wasn't actually female)...."
Yeah. A whole lot of books, movies & tv shows end up having to have a different name for US audiences. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone is also one of the better known examples!
Yeah. A whole lot of books, movies & tv shows end up having to have a different name for US audiences. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone is also one of the better known examples!
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Some of the regionalizations in the texts themselves made sense ("pants" for instance means something else in the US, as does "getting off with"), but that one just didn't. They also made some REALLY strange changes to the text of the 4th book. Madness!
I dunno. I tend to think, leave the book as it is and let the audiences figure out that there are differences in the world. :)

Starting The Big Skinny: How I Changed My Fattitude.

I'd agree for novels written for adults, and even teens (like in Melina Marchetta's books her characters "pash"--which I had to look up), but I think it makes sense to translate for novels like HP that are geared toward younger children. You expect adults/teens to have knowledge of cultural differences, or at least an idea that they exist and how to find a translation, but an 8-year-old reading a fantasy novel may not understand.
Theo wrote: "Ruby wrote: "I dunno. I tend to think, leave the book as it is and let the audiences figure out that there are differences in the world. :)"
I'd agree for novels written for adults, and even teens..."
I have to disagree. I remember when I would encounter things like this when I was little, they would be confusing but intriguing and made things interesting. If the publishers thought there were too many Britishisms in Harry Potter, they could put a glossary in the back of the book then see how long it is before terms like 'pitch' and 'spanner' started showing up on American playgrounds.
I'm guessing the cool kids all ordered copies from England anyway :-)
I'd agree for novels written for adults, and even teens..."
I have to disagree. I remember when I would encounter things like this when I was little, they would be confusing but intriguing and made things interesting. If the publishers thought there were too many Britishisms in Harry Potter, they could put a glossary in the back of the book then see how long it is before terms like 'pitch' and 'spanner' started showing up on American playgrounds.
I'm guessing the cool kids all ordered copies from England anyway :-)
Yup. They never bothered when I was a kid, and I turned out just fine :)
I finished High-Rise yesterday and am now looking to read everything I can get my hands on my J.G. Ballard.
In the meantime, I've started This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don’t Touch It and am still going with Fragile Things by Neil Gaiman. I have to say, I love that he tells you how/when/why he wrote each story. It does make it more interesting. The thought of Gaiman being roped in to a table in public to collaborate with Harlan Ellison makes me happy :)
I finished High-Rise yesterday and am now looking to read everything I can get my hands on my J.G. Ballard.
In the meantime, I've started This Book Is Full of Spiders: Seriously, Dude, Don’t Touch It and am still going with Fragile Things by Neil Gaiman. I have to say, I love that he tells you how/when/why he wrote each story. It does make it more interesting. The thought of Gaiman being roped in to a table in public to collaborate with Harlan Ellison makes me happy :)

Riona wrote: "Just finished Gone Girl and thought it was fantastic. Review here: http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/..."
Oh good. I just TBR'd that as "Must-Buy". Yes, I'm still adding to that!
Oh good. I just TBR'd that as "Must-Buy". Yes, I'm still adding to that!

I wouldn't expect any less!
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Theo wrote: "Starting The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil. Looks interesting, if a bit depressing...the book jacket does promise that the author "offers hope" in the midst of the all the..."
Oh. I was hoping it was more along the lines of, "How to turn good people evil..." Ah, well. I'll keep looking. :)
Oh. I was hoping it was more along the lines of, "How to turn good people evil..." Ah, well. I'll keep looking. :)
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In which case, Ruby, Southern Gods might be up your alley...

Matthew wrote: "I'm now splitting time between The Subtle Knife and Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. After High-Rise, I needed to regress for a time to a more innocent, younger-reading time! :)"
Bahaha! I, of course, went looking for more!
Bahaha! I, of course, went looking for more!

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Also, I can't seem to get through "After Dark" and I'm not sure why. Manly Wade Wellman is a great writer, I love his work, but it's so put-down-able. There's no sense of urgency to reading something by him. I always enjoy it, but it's something easily set down in favor of a more urgent text.
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It's been on my shelf for a year. I want to read it, but I have so many other books to get through and it's so HUGE.