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Hugo nominations 2012
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Here;s a link https://chicon.org/hugo-awards.php and here are the main categories from that site Best Novel (932 ballots)
Among Others by Jo Walton (Tor)
A Dance With Dragons by George R. R. Martin (Bantam Spectra)
Deadline by Mira Grant (Orbit)
Embassytown by China Miéville (Macmillan / Del Rey)
Leviathan Wakes by James S. A. Corey (Orbit)
Best Novella (473 ballots)
Countdown by Mira Grant (Orbit)
“The Ice Owl” by Carolyn Ives Gilman (The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction November/December 2011)
“Kiss Me Twice” by Mary Robinette Kowal (Asimov's June 2011)
“The Man Who Bridged the Mist” by Kij Johnson (Asimov's September/October 2011)
“The Man Who Ended History: A Documentary” by Ken Liu (Panverse 3)
Silently and Very Fast by Catherynne M. Valente (WSFA)
Best Novelette (499 ballots)
“The Copenhagen Interpretation” by Paul Cornell (Asimov's July 2011)
“Fields of Gold” by Rachel Swirsky (Eclipse Four)
“Ray of Light” by Brad R. Torgersen (Analog December 2011)
“Six Months, Three Days” by Charlie Jane Anders (Tor.com)
“What We Found” by Geoff Ryman (The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction March/April 2011)
Best Short Story (593 ballots)
“The Cartographer Wasps and the Anarchist Bees” by E. Lily Yu (Clarkesworld April 2011)
“The Homecoming” by Mike Resnick (Asimov's April/May 2011)
“Movement” by Nancy Fulda (Asimov's March 2011)
“The Paper Menagerie” by Ken Liu (The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction March/April 2011)
“Shadow War of the Night Dragons: Book One
I think if the film Hugo wins the award Hugo the universe will fold in on itself.
Tamahome wrote: "I think if the film Hugo wins the award Hugo the universe will fold in on itself."lol,
Victoria (vikz) wrote: "Here;s a link https://chicon.org/hugo-awards.php and here are the main categories from that site Best Novel (932 ballots)
Among Others by Jo Walton (Tor)
A Dance With Dragons by George R. R. Mart..."
I have read three of the books in best novel cat. Amongst others, Dance with dragons and embassy town. Anyone know anything about the other two?
The Among Others audiobook has a sexy welsh accent and name drops a lot of sf authors. Haven't finished yet. "I'd rather have a Heinlein than a headmistress!"
I lemmed Leviathan Wakes.
I've only read the 1st 2 ASOIAF books.
"It's Mieville, you know.Never believe it's not so."
Victoria (vikz) wrote: I have read three of the books in best novel cat. Amongst others, Dance with dragons and embassy town. Anyone know anything about the other two? Deadline is the sequel to Feed, a SF post-zombie America. I enjoyed Feed, although haven't read Deadline yet.
Also full list here:https://chicon.org/
Hugo Nominee Shortlist
1101 valid nominating ballots were received and counted.
Best Novel (932 ballots)
Among Others by Jo Walton (Tor)
A Dance With Dragons by George R. R. Martin (Bantam Spectra)
Deadline by Mira Grant (Orbit)
Embassytown by China Miéville (Macmillan / Del Rey)
Leviathan Wakes by James S. A. Corey (Orbit)
Best Novella (473 ballots)
Countdown by Mira Grant (Orbit)
“The Ice Owl” by Carolyn Ives Gilman (The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction November/December 2011)
“Kiss Me Twice” by Mary Robinette Kowal (Asimov's June 2011)
“The Man Who Bridged the Mist” by Kij Johnson (Asimov's September/October 2011)
“The Man Who Ended History: A Documentary” by Ken Liu (Panverse 3)
Silently and Very Fast by Catherynne M. Valente (WSFA)
Best Novelette (499 ballots)
“The Copenhagen Interpretation” by Paul Cornell (Asimov's July 2011)
“Fields of Gold” by Rachel Swirsky (Eclipse Four)
“Ray of Light” by Brad R. Torgersen (Analog December 2011)
“Six Months, Three Days” by Charlie Jane Anders (Tor.com)
“What We Found” by Geoff Ryman (The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction March/April 2011)
Best Short Story (593 ballots)
“The Cartographer Wasps and the Anarchist Bees” by E. Lily Yu (Clarkesworld April 2011)
“The Homecoming” by Mike Resnick (Asimov's April/May 2011)
“Movement” by Nancy Fulda (Asimov's March 2011)
“The Paper Menagerie” by Ken Liu (The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction March/April 2011)
“Shadow War of the Night Dragons: Book One: The Dead City: Prologue” by John Scalzi (Tor.com)
Best Related Work (461 ballots)
The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, Third Edition edited by John Clute, David Langford, Peter Nicholls, and Graham Sleight (Gollancz)
Jar Jar Binks Must Die... and Other Observations about Science Fiction Movies by Daniel M. Kimmel (Fantastic Books)
The Steampunk Bible: An Illustrated Guide to the World of Imaginary Airships, Corsets and Goggles, Mad Scientists, and Strange Literature by Jeff VanderMeer and S. J. Chambers (Abrams Image)
Wicked Girls by Seanan McGuire
Writing Excuses, Season 6 by Brandon Sanderson, Dan Wells, Howard Tayler, Mary Robinette Kowal, and Jordan Sanderson
Best Graphic Story (339 ballots)
Digger by Ursula Vernon (Sofawolf Press)
Fables Vol 15: Rose Red by Bill Willingham and Mark Buckingham (Vertigo)
Locke & Key Volume 4, Keys to the Kingdom written by Joe Hill, illustrated by Gabriel Rodriguez (IDW)
Schlock Mercenary: Force Multiplication written and illustrated by Howard Tayler, colors by Travis Walton (The Tayler Corporation)
The Unwritten (Volume 4): Leviathan created by Mike Carey and Peter Gross. Written by Mike Carey, illustrated by Peter Gross (Vertigo)
Best Dramatic Presentation (Long Form) (592 ballots)
Captain America: The First Avenger, screenplay by Christopher Markus and Stephan McFeely, directed by Joe Johnston (Marvel)
Game of Thrones (Season 1), created by David Benioff and D. B. Weiss; written by David Benioff, D. B. Weiss, Bryan Cogman, Jane Espenson, and George R. R. Martin; directed by Brian Kirk, Daniel Minahan, Tim van Patten, and Alan Taylor (HBO)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, screenplay by Steve Kloves; directed by David Yates (Warner Bros.)
Hugo, screenplay by John Logan; directed by Martin Scorsese (Paramount)
Source Code, screenplay by Ben Ripley; directed by Duncan Jones (Vendome Pictures)
Best Dramatic Presentation (Short Form) (512 ballots)
“The Doctor's Wife” (Doctor Who), written by Neil Gaiman; directed by Richard Clark (BBC Wales)
“The Drink Tank's Hugo Acceptance Speech,” Christopher J Garcia and James Bacon (Renovation)
“The Girl Who Waited” (Doctor Who), written by Tom MacRae; directed by Nick Hurran (BBC Wales)
“A Good Man Goes to War” (Doctor Who), written by Steven Moffat; directed by Peter Hoar (BBC Wales)
“Remedial Chaos Theory” (Community), written by Dan Harmon and Chris McKenna; directed by Jeff Melman (NBC)
Best Semiprozine (357 ballots)
Apex Magazine edited by Catherynne M. Valente, Lynne M. Thomas, and Jason Sizemore
Interzone edited by Andy Cox
Lightspeed edited by John Joseph Adams
Locus edited by Liza Groen Trombi, Kirsten Gong-Wong, et al.
New York Review of Science Fiction edited by David G. Hartwell, Kevin J. Maroney, Kris Dikeman, and Avram Grumer
Best Fanzine (322 ballots)
Banana Wings edited by Claire Brialey and Mark Plummer
The Drink Tank edited by James Bacon and Christopher J Garcia
File 770 edited by Mike Glyer
Journey Planet edited by James Bacon, Christopher J Garcia, et al.
SF Signal edited by John DeNardo
Best Fancast (326 ballots)
The Coode Street Podcast, Jonathan Strahan & Gary K. Wolfe
Galactic Suburbia Podcast, Alisa Krasnostein, Alex Pierce, and Tansy Rayner Roberts (presenters) and Andrew Finch (producer)
SF Signal Podcast, John DeNardo and JP Frantz, produced by Patrick Hester
SF Squeecast, Lynne M. Thomas, Seanan McGuire, Paul Cornell, Elizabeth Bear, and Catherynne M. Valente
StarShipSofa, Tony C. Smith
Best Professional Editor - Long Form (358 ballots)
Lou Anders
Liz Gorinsky
Anne Lesley Groell
Patrick Nielsen Hayden
Betsy Wollheim
Best Professional Editor - Short Form (512 ballots)
John Joseph Adams
Neil Clarke
Stanley Schmidt
Jonathan Strahan
Sheila Williams
Best Professional Artist (399 ballots)
Dan dos Santos
Bob Eggleton
Michael Komarck
Stephan Martiniere
John Picacio
Best Fan Artist (216 ballots)
Brad W. Foster
Randall Munroe
Spring Schoenhuth
Maurine Starkey
Steve Stiles
Taral Wayne
Best Fan Writer (360 ballots)
James Bacon
Claire Brialey
Christopher J Garcia
Jim C. Hines
Steven H Silver
John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer (396 ballots)
Award for the best new professional science fiction or fantasy writer of 2010 or 2011, sponsored by Dell Magazines (not a Hugo Award).
Mur Lafferty
Stina Leicht
Karen Lord *
Brad R. Torgersen *
E. Lily Yu
*2nd year of eligibility
Well, at least one of my novel recommendations made the list. And not my fault Sword and Laser isn't nominated, I did my part!I've read 2.5 of the novels. And the Scalzi short story. (I can't believe that got nominated!) I'm rooting for Jo Walton, but I predict GRR Martin gets the vote.
I predict Embassytown will win on technology and author popularity (but no one will actually read it).
I liked Among Others more than I expected, but still need to read a few of the other novels. My favorite Nebula-nominated short story is on this list too - The Cartographer Wasps and the Anarchist Bees.
The book I'm most surprised is missing is Wise Man's Fear. From drama, there's no Fringe.
Lepton wrote: ""It's Mieville, you know.Never believe it's not so.""
Come on! You missed out the Oh Oh Oh at the start. buck up Lep.
Good news: Digger got nominated. Ursula Vernon so deserves the award. It'll probably go to Willingham, despite the fact that Fables is on Volume 15 and the award would be essentially for continuing to produce, rather than recognizing any significant new achievement. But just getting nominated is a major accomplishment.Bad news: The Fades didn't even get a glance from the nominating committee, as far as I can tell.
I've read _A Dance with Dragons_ and _Embassytown_ Both quite excellent books, for different reasons.
I hated seeing Among Others in there. I thought it was a slow book that barely had a plot. The fantasy element was vague at best, and all it did was make a list of good sci-fi fantasy books. Did I add to my list of to-read books? Sure did. Was Among others worth my time otherwise? No, it was not.That said, read Feed by Mira Grant and loved it. Even more excited to read Deadline now!
The Among Others audiobook has a sexy Welsh accent though. ^_^
@Jo I'll agree with that. While not a terrible book it was more of a nostalgia trip for people who have read the books she put into it. I don't believe it award worthy. I'd say the same for "Ready Player One" if it were nominated and I loved the book but it was a vehicle for a "remember when" type of fun revisit of the past and nothing else. Yes I did just compare "Among Others" with "Ready Player One". :-)
I'll stand up for Among Others. I liked the love for the sf book clubs, the fannish sense of isolation (pre-internet), the interesting magical system, the look at the non-Harry Potter boarding school. True, the Save the World from the Dark Lord bit happened before the novel, but I can live with that omission. I did like Feed too. Yea for psychotic bloggers with paranoia.
How about fancast? Or the short fiction? Or the fanzine category? Anyone have input?
Charles wrote: "How about fancast?"I' very excited to see Coode Street and Galactic Suburbia on the ballot. They're both excellent podcasts with good meaty discussions that take the genre seriously. (And Galactic Suburbia puts their feminist slant front and centre, which delights me.)
SF Squeecast is nice and fun but I'm not sure if it's been going long enough to make an appraisal of it and I suspect that the nomination is motivated by respect for the hosts other work rather than the quality of the podcast the put out. Or, it could just be that I prefer to listed to people critically asses/ tear apart stuff than squee about things they love. /malcontent
I've already heard complaints that Starship Sofa shouldn't 'count' as a fancast because in mostly showcases short fiction. I don't really care either way, but I'm perversely pleased to see people still complaining about the process.
Don't listen to SF Signal podcast, had trouble subscribing and the impression that it was the 'dudes make lists' format. But I now see they have some interviews with interesting people, so I'll have to give 'em a look.
Nick wrote: "@Jo I'll agree with that. While not a terrible book it was more of a nostalgia trip for people who have read the books she put into it. I don't believe it award worthy. I'd say the same for "Re..."I like your comparison and I can definitely see the similarities. Part of my dislike may just be generational (the 80s kid in me LOVED Ready Player One). Or, I think as @kvon said below, I think didn't like it because most of the action took place before the story started and because the main character was not just like-able. I appreciated the way the book was written and got what it was supposed to be but it was not my cup of tea.
Maybe this time Song of Ice and Fire may have a better shot. I feel like it got robbed last time when A Storm of Swords was nominated by Harry Potter because it was the start of the craze, all the kids makeing their parents to vote for it.
Ref-SF audio #155 I largely agree with their assessment. Some of the short stories are good fables, morality plays,etc. but not really what I would call Sci-fi or fantasy. Since there are several such tales among the nominees, I would guess that some of the judges prefer them. My guess is that one of the fables will win. I haven't read all the books but would guess the same criteria will apply.
Is there a list of the freely available nominated content? ebook, YouTube, whatever.
The Sword and Laser
Books mentioned in this topic
A Dance with Dragons (other topics)Leviathan Wakes (other topics)
No, The Internet Puppy didn't get one.
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