PLEASE separate before not-a-booking!

[Susan]

yes, but I've got the calendar and I *have* added it to my user shelf but the description is wrong as long as it's linked to the other stuff

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Users are discouraged from shelving NAB items.

[MissJessie]

But there is no law against it.

There is a workaround Susan: Open the page with your calendar on it, cited above. It was using the default description. Click on the "edit the description" right above the description box on the upper right. Put in whatever you want it to say re the calendar.

I changed it to something like "an example of editing" just to show you.

The default description remains unchanged on on the other NABs in the set; it just changes the one you are working on.

Hope this helps.

[Hanneke]

How do I separate an incorrectly-combined book?
Someone has combined the four separate Paul Gallico children's books about the guinea-pig Jean-Pierre two-by-two. I've got all four of them at home as separate books, so I think they should be separated again:
The day the guinea-pig talked (1); The day Jean-Pierre was pignapped (2); The day Jean-Pierre went round the world (3); The day Jean-Pierre joined the circus (4).
I can't find it in the manual, and I don't see a button to click to accomplish this.

[willaful]

Click on "combine boks" to get to the combine page. Find the books. Click on "separate." (Don't click on the first one, it won't let you separate the most popular edition.)

[Hanneke]

Thanks! I hadn't thought to try to combine them in order to uncombine them... doing that now.

[willaful]

You don't need to combine them to uncombine them! The "combine books" link is just to get to the combine/separate page.

[Deana]

Perhaps the link should say "combine/separate books" then to make it more clear for new librarians? I guess that's something that should go to "Feedback" though.

[Jemidar]

Can someone please separate this one NOT A BOOK and unNAB it for me? Thanks!

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Why do you think it should be unNABed? It appears to be a book of patterns, no text.

[Jemidar]

Because it meets the requirement of being a reference, and other textile & tapestry pattern and costume colouring in books qualify as books, so why not this one?

I bought it as a reference book because of it's diagrams of different paisley patterns.

[Lobstergirl]

Unnabbed. Actually most of Marty Noble's books are design/textile/pattern reference books and many have been unproperly NABbed.

[MissJessie]

Seems like it should be NABd to me. Lovely pictures, but

1. No text
2. Title includes "Coloring book"; both items listed in the NABing instructions as Not Books.

and, not to be rude or anything, why haven't you reviewed it or added it or something? At present, no reviews, no ratings.

A thoughtful review would preclude its NABing probably.

In the absence of anything but a description as coloring book w/no text, why would it not be NAB'd.

I own and use a number of coloring books for pattern ideas for projects, but they are still coloring books even though I use them for reference. Use doesn't change basic format.

And IMO it's a little high handed to undo a librarian's work (and it's not mine) who is following suggested instructions just because you disagree with them.

[Lobstergirl]

The guidelines for NAB have changed significantly since they were first established. There are many, many atlases that were improperly nabbed because people considered them maps, and the NAB author profile had not been writte yet, and expanded into its present form. So I don't think it's high-handed to undo a NAB when the standards have changed.

If you look at Marty Noble's combine page, there are multiple librarian notes, not just from me, asking that people not NAB particular works of his, because they can be considered reference works.

And, we don't NAB or unNAB based on whether a work has been rated, or reviewed. That would not be fair, obviously.

[Jemidar]

Much appreciated lobstergirl!

[MissJessie]

My point was that if there was a rating or a review, one might be inclined, if NABing, to read a review and it might prevent what some view as inappropriate NABing.

Also, I still think if someone feels strongly about a particular book (or whatever) it would behoove them to at least rate it or review it however briefly.

Also I am aware of the atlas discussion, but this is a coloring book and so labelled. With no text.

Further also, it would be a good idea to further comment on the other Noble books since there are valid points re not NABing. But frankly, thought it wasn't I who NAB'ed it, I would have. There are no contra indications on this particular coloring book that I see.

Cheers. End of my discussion.

[[deleted user]]

So I've been working on one author's books and I see quite a few entries for MP3, Audio Books and CD's. Are these considered NAB?

For example:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77...

I'll separate and NAB them if appropriate but wanted to be sure first.

Thanks!

[Deborah]

Tina wrote: "So I've been working on one author's books and I see quite a few entries for MP3, Audio Books and CD's. Are these considered NAB?

For example:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77......"

Those are books, there's nothing wrong with audio books.

[[deleted user]]

Thank you so much! I wasn't entirely sure.

[Deborah]

Tina wrote: "Thank you so much! I wasn't entirely sure."

No problem.

My husband only reads audio books these days.

[K,]

rivka wrote: "Kindle editions get added by Amazon, so deleting them is a wasted effort. I suppose they could be edited to be a more general ebook edition, when that is accurate. (It isn't always -- some ebooks a..."

I have a query related to this: If a ebook is only available as a kindle edition Hard Knocks, and a reader is able to convert to another format to read it - then should it be shelved as an ebook - even though that edition is not 'officially' available; though that is what was read? Hoping that someone can clarify :)
Hard Knocks

Thanks,

K.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

No, no more than if you printed out and ebook and bound it. Only published editions should be listed.

[K,]

rivka wrote: "No, no more than if you printed out and ebook and bound it. Only published editions should be listed."

Thanks Rivka - that's what I thought :)

[Stephen]

rivka wrote: "Ooh, I think I may change my mod title to "Rogue Librarian"! ;)"

Is that like Loudest Mime?

http://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/17...
I found this DVD and made sure that it was separate from all other editions but there are three reviews attached (no text) just ratings

Should I change the author name to NOT A BOOK or delete it or what? I'm a bit confused on this issue (even after reading the discussion in this thread)

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Stephen wrote: "change the author name to NOT A BOOK"

This.

[JSWolf]

K, wrote: "rivka wrote: "Kindle editions get added by Amazon, so deleting them is a wasted effort. I suppose they could be edited to be a more general ebook edition, when that is accurate. (It isn't always --..."

What about an eBook that was formerly sold as an ePub version and then later pulled to go exclusive with Amazon? Can the ePub version be added since it did used to be a published edition?

[Ann]

Hopefully, I am right on this. Kindle Edition are exclusive to the Kindle reader so the other ePub version should not be used

[Paula]

JSWolf wrote: "K, wrote: "rivka wrote: "Kindle editions get added by Amazon, so deleting them is a wasted effort. I suppose they could be edited to be a more general ebook edition, when that is accurate. (It isn'..."

If an ebook version exists then it can be added with or without ISBN.

Whether or not it stopped being sold as an ebook due to amazon exclusivity is irrelevant here since we are cataloging the book not selling it. (what should not be added is a kindle converted ebook)

If you provide the details some one can add

[JSWolf]

Paula wrote: "JSWolf wrote: "K, wrote: "rivka wrote: "Kindle editions get added by Amazon, so deleting them is a wasted effort. I suppose they could be edited to be a more general ebook edition, when that is acc..."

Just asking in case I come across such a situation so I know what can be done. Thanks.