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PLEASE separate before not-a-booking!
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Apr 28, 2009 04:11PM
I was wondering how it got fixed so fast. I clicked on the link and it was separated and I was like I could have sworn they were together so I came back and deleted the comment so I didn't look like an idiot. lol. I'm working on posting all my books... it's a long arduous task, so when I find the other one that's not posted I'll post it under book issues. I might have too many books... No, that's not possible. Thank you for fixing it. I only have volumes One and Two but when I typed in the ISBNs on them they both came up as separate listing this time. I'm still collecting through trade sites so if I acquire the other one I'll check that as well. Anyway I wanted to say thank you so much for fixing it. I really appreciate it.
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One way to find unseparated NAB items is to put "NOT A BOOK" in the search field and select search by author. The first couple of pages of search results right now are real books with a combined NAB still listed among their editions.... Anyone game? :)
I think so, yes, although I suppose an argument could be made that it's a "teacher's guide" book -- it's definitely not an edition of the actual book Night. (You'll need to delete and recreate it to move that review over onto the proper book either way, though.)
When you do an author search for "Not a Book" (as described above), a number of the hits are to books with many editions (mostly Shakespeare, but one or two others). I can't find any Not a Book authors actually attached to any of those books; I think this may be a phantom result of the sort that often comes up with books with tons of editions and many alternate authors (editors, translators, illustrators, etc.) Sort of like the way you can do an author search for "Michael" (or any other common first name) and get an entire page of listings where not a single book is actually written by anyone with that first name.
Michael, I've had the same experience. I had wondered whether the current NOT A BOOKs had once had those authors listed as authors but no longer do because they've already been changed to NOT A BOOKs.
SF SQRL wrote: "I usually list them as MultiFormat eBook. Not that that will necessarily deter the more determined librarian ;)."That doesn't actually work if the different formats of a given eBook have different ISBN numbers. I've taken to listing the specific format and the ISBN that goes with it. So I'll put it in as say Mobipocket eBook or MS Reader eBook or Sony eBook. Before using Multiformat eBook, check if the ISBN is the same for all versions. Because if not, then each version should be a seperate entry.
SF SQRL wrote: "Well, no, but I've never run across any."Look here (for example) http://www.harpercollinsebooks.com/BB... and you will see a different ISBN for each eBook edition.
The entries with gibberish authors (with numbers in the name) which I'm pretty sure are CDs..we are not a booking those, correct?
Jessica, You didn't post any links so cannot be sure but if you're sure an item is not a book, yes, we NOT A BOOK it/the author. If there are any books where it's the author's name being messed up then we correct the spelling of the author's name and do any combining necessary.
Thanks rivka. I hadn't seen any in a while so I couldn't link. Usually looks like Britney CD57a0faSpears.
Ok I am a little confused ( don't worry it can happen and often does....lol).In regards to Colouring type books. I have a number that have a Not a book title on them. however While they are technically colouring books they fall into the Anatony coloring book classification. Text and actual info with Black n white pics that can be coloured. Dover produces a bunch of these.
Are they considered Not a books or are they Books and Can Label them appropriately?
Also Is there a person/place that a newbie Librrarian like me can go to that can help with these questions/topics?
A specialist perhaps? I would love to be a colouring book specialist....lol...
Ladystyx
Ladystyx, I think that those books are books. I have some of those and even though they're coloring books they have the full text/info about anatomy, physiology, etc. even if you never color in them.
Okies. Just wanted to Double check before I change the 50 plus or so of these I have on my shelfs from Not a Books back to the beloved books as I know them. lol
I recommend a Librarian's Note on each of them. Otherwise, good chance someone will mistakenly switch them back.
I've been reading the posts and I think I have this. I've not done much with the NABs. I found a group of books where the title is NOT-A-BOOK and the author is NOT-A-BOOK but the is no other information in the title.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/64...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27...
This doesn't seem right to me.
Should I go and put the titles back after including NOT-A-BOOK in the title?
Help and thanks.
I think it is best to leave the titles out of the items we label as Not a Book so they don't come up in searches.
Cait wrote: "Huh, you know, there doesn't seem to be anything on NOT-A-BOOKing in the librarian manual -- does anyone know where the standard instructions are and want to write them up in the "add to the manual..."This doesn't really mean just change the whole title to NOT A BOOK does it?
We are still just putting NOT A BOOK before the rest of the complete titles - correct?
If we could decide, this would help. There is a librarian who is now renaming all of the NAB materials to a title only NAB. This confuses me and makes useful searching impossible on these materials.
No, Sherry, if the items are genuinely not books then there's no need to keep any information about them; the only reason they aren't deleted entirely from the database is that items with ISBNs are automatically imported from Amazon when they aren't in GR, so if they were deleted then they'd pop back up after the next import.If something has been mistakenly NABbed, it can usually be reconstructed from the ISBN when discovered.
(By the way, the author should be "NOT A BOOK", not "NOT-A-BOOK" -- the punctuation will make it a different author.)
Cait wrote: "No, Sherry, if the items are genuinely not books then there's no need to keep any information about them; the only reason they aren't deleted entirely from the database is that items with ISBNs ar..."Thanks - (Got the correct punctuation).
Just to reiterate, it if really is NOT A BOOK, then
this should be in the title field and the author field, and ultimately we will merge this into a single item?
They do not need to be merged within the Not A Book Author. But yes - the title should read: Not a book and the author should read: Not a book. (I enter it in sort by too)
Melody wrote: "They do not need to be merged within the Not A Book Author. But yes - the title should read: Not a book and the author should read: Not a book. (I enter it in sort by too)"Thanks.
Should these be NAB'd?http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/70...
I've always wondered about this, so I'll start off my first question: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/69...
Would this be NAB? A lot of members are writing stuff and making them look like actual books...for example, the author listed there is not real, it's a pen name for an unpublished kid.
My question, then, is what to do with stuff like this, which is definitely not published material and little more than just a goodreads story that is made to look like published material.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/81...That can't be right, can it? There's one that seems to be the real one but what about that one?
Link to real one: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...
So what do we do with the "fake" one?
(Sorry, first thing as a librarian... Don't know how to handle things just yet... :/)
My suggestion is that if they are the same edition of the same book, combine them and sort it out so there is only one listing.
Shouldn't the title be changed, too? It's different from the other one and it doesn't fit the format
Corrected.
In future, please start a new thread, rather than posting in unrelated ones. And welcome!
In future, please start a new thread, rather than posting in unrelated ones. And welcome!
http://www.goodreads.com/work/edition...All sorts of things combined before NAB...
Don't have time today.
While not terribly useful, all the combined items appear to be NAB items, which is less of an issue.
A reminder to librarians: Separate before NOT A BOOKING.
The NAB profile is full of nabbed works combined with un-nabbed works.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/85... is part of a large list of Not-a-Books (it's a calendar, so yes: not-a-book) but I can't separate it from the other 99 versions since it doesn't show up in the list when I click combine so separate. Help?
NAB items often get grouped. Since they're not getting added to user shelves, that should not be a problem.
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