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message 51: by [deleted user] (new)

LOL. Its still in the "To read" list even if it doesn't work for this. :) And there's a whole 20 other tasks coming.... Though I decided to tour the world via mystery, and given that I'll probably try not to do mysteries for any other tasks.


message 52: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Leigh wrote: "Liz M wrote:
Tarquin Hall was born in London, is described as "a British writer and journalist," and divides his time between London and De..."

Oops! I missed the switch from "resident" to "nati..."


How about editing the first to indicate that you've changed plans and the re-post when ready. The Coroner's Lunch is really borderline, but at least the author in question appears to be a permanent, long-term resident of Laos. Following the "letter of the law" I have equal arguments for and against.


message 53: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Leigh wrote: "LOL. Its still in the "To read" list even if it doesn't work for this. :) And there's a whole 20 other tasks coming.... Though I decided to tour the world via mystery, and given that I'll proba..."

Manjiri Prabhu?


message 54: by Rebekah (new)

Rebekah (bekalynn) To be sure to be sure, no points for LiT or oldies?

Also I noticed residency has been marked out so what is the difference between country of birth and Nationality? Would that make Kipling work for India if you want to read Kim,or UK if you wanted to read Puck of Pook Hill?

Would nationality be what your parents are? If your parents were born in India but you were born and raised in the US. What would that be?


message 55: by Connie (new)

Connie | 214 comments Rebekah wrote: "I thought it was in the middle of the sea! Actually I think I remember the main character was born in Bombay, India when he talks about how he got his nickname."

Yes, that would be Life of Pi, another book of his, unless he uses the same plot in all his books :) I'm gonna find out sooner or later.


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments Rebekah wrote: "To be sure to be sure, no points for LiT or oldies? "

Around the World has no style points, but I assume you're referring to Liz's posting of rules and style points for the RwS. I think the intent is to rotate some of our regular style points so, no LiT or oldies this time. Instead, we have Bloom's Canon and Not a Novel.


message 57: by Liz M (last edited Feb 13, 2012 02:58PM) (new)

Liz M Rebekah wrote: "To be sure to be sure, no points for LiT or oldies?
Correct.

Rebekah wrote: "Also I noticed residency has been marked out so what is the difference between country of birth and Nationality? Would that make Kipling work for India if you want to read Kim,or UK if you wanted to read Puck of Pook Hill? ..."

Nationality: membership of a nation or sovereign state, usually determined by citizenship, but sometimes by ethnicity or place of residence, or based on their sense of national identity.

Birthplace is NOT the same as nationality & this is the whole reason for having the criteria for the books in the first place -- to determine which country books qualify for if an author was born in one country but a citizen of another. Kipling was born in India, but was a citizen of the UK (his nationality). So, his books set in India qualify for India (country of birth, setting) and his books set in the UK qualify for the UK (nationality, setting).

Rebekah wrote: "Would nationality be what your parents are? If your parents were born in India but you were born and raised in the US. What would that be?

If you were born and raised in the US, unless you've renounced citizenship, your nationality is American.

If you are unsure, check wikipedia. For most well-known authors they have a side-bar on the right that details place of birth and nationality.


message 58: by Rebekah (last edited Feb 13, 2012 03:16PM) (new)

Rebekah (bekalynn) Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "As for your Yann Martel, I looked at a few reviews. Only one references an "unnamed city". I don't think that helps you, and I'm guessing the setting of this novel is intentionally vague."

I looked it up. The boy is from Pondicherry in India
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_of_Pi


message 59: by Rebekah (last edited Feb 13, 2012 03:21PM) (new)

Rebekah (bekalynn) Liz M wrote: "Rebekah wrote: "To be sure to be sure, no points for LiT or oldies?
Correct.

Rebekah wrote: "Also I noticed residency has been marked out so what is the difference between country of birth and Nat..."


thanks, got it.
Now I'll go try to think up some more complicated questions.(smile)


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments Rebekah wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "As for your Yann Martel, I looked at a few reviews. Only one references an "unnamed city". I don't think that helps you, and I'm guessing the setting of this novel is int..."

To be sure, but Life of Pi isn't the book in question.


message 61: by Rebekah (new)

Rebekah (bekalynn) Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Rebekah wrote: "To be sure to be sure, no points for LiT or oldies? "

Around the World has no style points, but I assume you're referring to Liz's posting of rules and style points for the RwS. I ..."


Okay!


message 62: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Karen,

On a quick internet search, I cannot find a specific setting for Of Love and Shadows -- it is usually described as set in "a Latin American country". I'll do a little more poking around, but let me know if you have a reference to the setting.


message 63: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5271 comments Liz M wrote: "Karen,

On a quick internet search, I cannot find a specific setting for Of Love and Shadows -- it is usually described as set in "a Latin American country". I'll do a little more poking around, b..."


Ok, I'll look. If not, I'll switch to a different Allende that states set in Chile.


message 64: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5271 comments Karen GHHS wrote: "Liz M wrote: "Karen,

On a quick internet search, I cannot find a specific setting for Of Love and Shadows -- it is usually described as set in "a Latin American country". I'll do a little more po..."


I'm going to switch to:

Inés of My Soul

I don't think I read it before, but if I start it and I have I still have two by her that state Chile as the setting I could use. Should I edit the post or post a new itinerary?


message 65: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Karen GHHS wrote: "Karen GHHS wrote: "Liz M wrote: "Karen,

On a quick internet search, I cannot find a specific setting for Of Love and Shadows -- it is usually described as set in "a Latin American country". I'll ..."


Editing the post is fine -- the itinerary approval is technically just for the route, but it's nice to have the time to check the individual books now (rather than posting a book & finding that it doesn't work).


message 66: by Rebekah (new)

Rebekah (bekalynn) Would this author count for Greece? He was born and raised in Pa but His bio says Mykonos, Greece has been his "adopted home for the past twenty-five years"
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/...


message 67: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Rebekah wrote: "Would this author count for Greece? He was born and raised in Pa but His bio says Mykonos, Greece has been his "adopted home for the past twenty-five years"
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/32..."


I am going to say no to Jeffery Sigler qualifying for Greece. He was born in the US, seems to be referred to as an American writer, and apparently has a farm in NY as well as a home in Greece.


message 68: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Connie,

Impressive reading list! I want to borrow several stops of your itinerary. I love that you are trying to stop at Antarctica, but it looks like the Poe book takes place entirely at sea.

Have you read At the Mountains of Madness by H.P. Lovecraft?


message 69: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Shannon,

As Elizabeth already pointed out, your itinerary is lacking the East/West longitudinal designations & is therefore not traveling around the world in one direction. Please revise.

Aslo, I am going to say that Gerald Durrell does not qualify for Greece -- he was born in India, only lived in Greece for four years and seems to have spent the bulk of his adult life based in the UK.


message 70: by Shannon SA (new)

Shannon SA (shannonsa) | 6 comments Liz M wrote: "Shannon,

As Elizabeth already pointed out, your itinerary is lacking the East/West longitudinal designations & is therefore not traveling around the world in one direction. Please revise.

Aslo, ..."


Hi Liz M, sorry, just picked this one up now - will edit my itinerary (post 18) - thank you!


message 71: by Connie (new)

Connie | 214 comments Liz M wrote: "Connie,

Impressive reading list! I want to borrow several stops of your itinerary. I love that you are trying to stop at Antarctica, but it looks like the Poe book takes place entirely at sea.


I looked at Wikipedia for this book and this seemed to suggest that they land, albeit on a fictional island, in Antarctica.
Anyway, could I switch it to your suggestion, and if Lovecraft turns out to be too tentacled, would
South Pole: An Account of the Norwegian Antarctic Expedition in the Farm, 1910-12 be an acceptable substitute?


message 72: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Connie wrote: "Anyway, could I switch it to your suggestion, and if Lovecraft turns out to be too tentacled, would
South Pole: An Account of the Norwegian Antarctic Expedition in the Farm, 1910-12 be an acceptable substitute?..."


Yes, it works!


message 73: by Connie (last edited Feb 17, 2012 04:51AM) (new)

Connie | 214 comments Thanks Liz, have adjusted my itinerary accordingly!

And I find all the other routes really interesting too, I think my"to-read" list got at least 15 new additions :). Great challenge!


message 74: by Kathleen (itpdx) (last edited Feb 17, 2012 04:37PM) (new)

Kathleen (itpdx) (itpdx) | 1720 comments Question: The Tiger's Wife by Téa Obreht. Obreht was born in Belgrade when it was in Yugoslavia (it is now in Serbia) and the info on the book says set in Balkan country--Goodreads says Yugoslavia. Obreht (so young) has lived a number of places but appears to be a US resident now. Can I use as a European book with the longitude of Belgrade (based on A & C)?


message 75: by Liz M (new)

Liz M itpdx wrote: "Question: The Tiger's Wife by Téa Obreht. Obreht was born in Belgrade when it was in Yugoslavia (it is now in Serbia) and the info on the book says set in Balkan co..."

Unfortunately, I am going to say no to this one because the location, in most places I've looked, is "an unnamed Balkan country".


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments itpdx, you'll see that Liz has posted some of the 20-point tasks. You could still read that for this challenge, as it qualifies for 20.2 True Colors when it won the Orange Prize.


message 77: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) | 5271 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "itpdx, you'll see that Liz has posted some of the 20-point tasks. You could still read that for this challenge, as it qualifies for 20.2 True Colors when it won the Orange Prize."

Yes! The tasks are awesome- so excited!


message 78: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn OK, I have a little bit of a weird one. I've had Possessing the Secret of Joy by Alice Walker on my list for awhile and this seems like it could be a chance to read it. However, it is a book about an African woman from a fictional African country, written by an American author and set in Africa, the US and I believe some parts in Europe as well. Is this book eligible?


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments Carolyn wrote: "OK, I have a little bit of a weird one. I've had Possessing the Secret of Joy by Alice Walker on my list for awhile and this seems like it could be a chance to read it. H..."

Alice Walker was born in the US and is of US nationality, so this book would qualify as a US book.

The book read must meet two of the three criteria: author's birth, author's nationality, setting.


message 80: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn Thanks Elizabeth, I think I was over-complicating things for myself!


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments I know how that works. ;-)


Jayme(theghostreader) (jaymetheghostreader) | 2594 comments I have a question, I want to read an author Justine Larbaleister(sp?). She is from Sydney Austraila. I just checked for Goodreads page and it said she was born and raised there so she qualify for both A born in that country and B) nationality of that country, yes?


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments Yes, she would qualify for your Australia stop.


Jayme(theghostreader) (jaymetheghostreader) | 2594 comments *does the happy joey dance*


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments Are you going to read Liar?


message 86: by Jayme(theghostreader) (last edited Feb 21, 2012 06:08PM) (new)

Jayme(theghostreader) (jaymetheghostreader) | 2594 comments I am planning on it yes. I met the author. She came to our school for a book talk. She is really nice and I have a signed copy of the book.


message 87: by Amy W (new)

Amy W | 32 comments Can I read a book of poetry? I was thinking The Essential Neruda: Selected Poems by Pablo Neruda. He was born in Chile and was a Chilean citizen, so would this one work?


message 88: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Amy W wrote: "Can I read a book of poetry? I was thinking The Essential Neruda: Selected Poems by Pablo Neruda. He was born in Chile and was a Chilean citizen, so would this one work?"

Yes!


message 89: by Joanna (new)

Joanna (walker) | 2278 comments Will In the country of men work for Libya (based on setting and nationality)? Wikipedia lists the author as a Libyan author even though he was born in New York and now lives in London.


Jayme(theghostreader) (jaymetheghostreader) | 2594 comments I have a question about my Australia stop with Justine Labaliester. I checked the spreadsheet and there are 5 stops for Australia and none of them are Sydney. Which one do I go with for the latitude and longitude?


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments Jayme, I think you mistakenly looked at the Continent column, which is Australasia. There is only one entry for Australia, because they are listed by country capital. Any book that qualifies for an Australia author/location will work.


Jayme(theghostreader) (jaymetheghostreader) | 2594 comments You are correct. I read it wrong. I thought Australia was the country and the continent.


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "You are correct. I read it wrong. I thought Australia was the country and the continent."

I had thought that for years, too. But if so, I wondered, what continent includes New Zealand? I'm always learning something here!


message 94: by Rebekah (last edited Mar 01, 2012 08:09PM) (new)

Rebekah (bekalynn) Would this book work for Australia? He's lived all over but now is inSydney and he is known as an "Australian Author"

Never mind!


Jayme(theghostreader) (jaymetheghostreader) | 2594 comments Can books include nonfiction?


message 96: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "Can books include nonfiction?"

Yes. In general, for any task that states "read a book, "book" is assumed to include non-fiction, poetry, plays, short stories, novels, etc. Tasks that require fiction usually state "read a novel or "read a collection of poetry".


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 14224 comments Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "Can books include nonfiction?"

Yes!


Jayme(theghostreader) (jaymetheghostreader) | 2594 comments cool thanks


message 99: by Liz M (new)

Liz M Don wrote: "Co-author of this book is from Ecuador the setting of the book. Does this satisfy the challenge for ATW?
The Queen Of Water"


For books with multiple authors, the primary author (first one listed on the cover/title page) will be the one used to determine if the book meets the location requirements. In this case, the primary author does not qualify for Ecuador.


message 100: by [deleted user] (new)

Arggghhh... I put Ngaio Marsh's A Man Lay Dead on my circumnavigator itinerary for New Zealand. I wasn't too disturbed by a large number of Englishmen gathering in a country house, but 80 pages in the butler just caught the 10:15 train to London. I'm guessing this is not set in NZ. I've read one of the later books in the series, and I'm sure Inspector Alleyn gets there eventually, but apparently not yet.

Can I count this for the trip? Ngaio was born and resident of NZ (*sigh* Though looking at her bio it specifically mentions this book being in written in the UK. I seriously just didn't research this one closely thinking I knew where both Ngaio Marsh and Inspector Alleyn were from. Sorry! )

If not, what do I do for the Circumnavigator challenge? Can I choose another book does meet the criteria for New Zealand without updating in the itinerary thread or should I repost there once I've picked a new book. (After I've finished this one because I still need to find out who did it. :) )


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